Why I must stop using Evolution

[Harald Beck]

Hi guys,

here is some feedback to version 2.26 running under ubuntu.

First, I encountered a couple of very annoying bugs: (No, I don't want
to engage in Bugzilla; sorry.)

* In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the
memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

* Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created
appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify
that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it
again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing the
formular.

* If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started
before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two
mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel.
This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution as
usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why does
it work for the other account!?)

There are other suggestions which are not bugs, but they shall not
concern us here.

I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started
Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The
according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other
words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no
clue why.

I enjoyed using evolution more and more since I started using it a
couple of months ago and so I managed to live with the mentioned bugs
which were indeed annoying.

But I cannot possibly use a software that deletes stored information, or
stores it in such a way that it cannot be retrieved.

Well, I might go now browse ~/.evolution and see whether I can do
anything about, but hey, I wanna USE this software and not hack it.

Hope that helps & looking forward to a (much) more mature version,
Harald
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[Sylvia Sánchez]

El lun, 26-10-2009 a las 17:46 +0100, Harald Beck escribió:

Hi guys,

here is some feedback to version 2.26 running under ubuntu.

First, I encountered a couple of very annoying bugs: (No, I don't want 
to engage in Bugzilla; sorry.)

* In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the 
memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

* Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created 
appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify 
that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it 
again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing the 
formular.

* If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started 
before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two 
mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel. 
This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution as 
usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why does 
it work for the other account!?)

There are other suggestions which are not bugs, but they shall not 
concern us here.

I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started 
Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The 
according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other 
words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no 
clue why.

I enjoyed using evolution more and more since I started using it a 
couple of months ago and so I managed to live with the mentioned bugs 
which were indeed annoying.

But I cannot possibly use a software that deletes stored information, or 
stores it in such a way that it cannot be retrieved.

Well, I might go now browse ~/.evolution and see whether I can do 
anything about, but hey, I wanna USE this software and not hack it.

Hope that helps & looking forward to a (much) more mature version,
Harald
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Well, I have a 2.22 and I don't have this bugs.  The memo bug (there's a list of memos but doesn't appear in calendar view)  I do have it but I don't find it annoying, just surprising.  May be is a problem of the Ubuntu version?  Or may be is an upper but more buggered version  :-)

Regards
Sylvia


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[Philippe LeCavalier]

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 17:46 +0100, Harald Beck wrote:

Hi guys,

here is some feedback to version 2.26 running under ubuntu.

First, I encountered a couple of very annoying bugs: (No, I don't want 
to engage in Bugzilla; sorry.)

* In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the 
memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

* Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created 
appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify 
that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it 
again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing the 
formular.

I use 2.26.3 on Debian (Ubuntu is based on Debian so they're very similar) and haven't experienced this.

* If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started 
before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two 
mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel. 
This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution as 
usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why does 
it work for the other account!?)

this is very likely a network ACPI thing. Especially if your on wireless. Most systems resume slowly after hibernating and your likely not getting your network connect back up as fast as you might expect it. Have you tried a webpage or pinging something at the same time as it's asks you for your pass?

There are other suggestions which are not bugs, but they shall not 
concern us here.

I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started 
Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The 
according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other 
words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no 
clue why.

I enjoyed using evolution more and more since I started using it a 
couple of months ago and so I managed to live with the mentioned bugs 
which were indeed annoying.

But I cannot possibly use a software that deletes stored information, or 
stores it in such a way that it cannot be retrieved.

Short of a drive failure of some sort I highly doubt Evo deleted your data. It must be there somewhere...Post the findings from your below suggestion and someone here will get to the bottom of this.

Well, I might go now browse ~/.evolution and see whether I can do 
anything about, but hey, I wanna USE this software and not hack it.

Hope that helps & looking forward to a (much) more mature version,
Harald

Don't loose hope so quick. Evo is quite mature already

Cheers,
Phil

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[Adam Tauno Williams-5]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:55 -0400, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 17:46 +0100, Harald Beck wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > here is some feedback to version 2.26 running under ubuntu.
> > First, I encountered a couple of very annoying bugs: (No, I don't want
> > to engage in Bugzilla; sorry.)
> > * In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the
> > memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.
> > * Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created
> > appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify
> > that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it
> > again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing the
> > formular.
> I use 2.26.3 on Debian (Ubuntu is based on Debian so they're very
> similar) and haven't experienced this.

I'd suggest the solution is to stop using Ubuntu which seems to
experience above-average instability.

My Evolution doesn't crash or hang.

> > * If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started
> > before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two
> > mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel.
> > This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution as
> > usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why does
> > it work for the other account!?)
> this is very likely a network ACPI thing. Especially if your on
> wireless. Most systems resume slowly after hibernating and your likely
> not getting your network connect back up as fast as you might expect
> it. Have you tried a webpage or pinging something at the same time as
> it's asks you for your pass?

Ditto.  After suspend/resume the wireless can occasionally take a
L-O-N-G time.  Seems much improved as of late [openSUSE 11.1] but I may
just not have seen it since I don't suspend/resume very often.

> > There are other suggestions which are not bugs, but they shall not
> > concern us here.
> > I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started
> > Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The
> > according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other
> > words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no
> > clue why.

Yikes.

> > I enjoyed using evolution more and more since I started using it a
> > couple of months ago and so I managed to live with the mentioned bugs
> > which were indeed annoying.

You are way more tolerant than I would be.

> > But I cannot possibly use a software that deletes stored information, or
> > stores it in such a way that it cannot be retrieved.

What you have experienced is not by any means "normal".  Evolution has
never eaten my data.

> Short of a drive failure of some sort I highly doubt Evo deleted your
> data. It must be there somewhere...Post the findings from your below
> suggestion and someone here will get to the bottom of this.
> > Well, I might go now browse ~/.evolution and see whether I can do
> > anything about, but hey, I wanna USE this software and not hack it.
> > Hope that helps & looking forward to a (much) more mature version,
> > Harald
> Don't loose hope so quick. Evo is quite mature already ;)

Evolution does provide a backup option too.   Although it has never
eaten my data I use that regularly.
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[Pete Biggs]

>
> I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started
> Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The
> according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other
> words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no
> clue why.
>

Sometimes, if E-D-S dies, Evo forgets that it's supposed to display some
things.  Make sure there are ticks in the boxes next to the coloured
squares on the left hand pane of the calendar/tasks/memos screens.

As others have said, I have had many traumatic times with Evo, but it
has never deleted any of my data.

P.

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[Harald Beck]

Hi Philippe,

thanks for the reply.

It's interesting that the crashing on editing recurring events only
occurs in my case (at least not in everone's). Concerning Adam's
suggestion: Well, switching the operating system (which I've been really
happy with for a couple of years) only to get (possibly) a better
performance of Evo can't be the solution, right? ;-)

(I also don't see why the operating system should have to do so much
with editing an appointment in Evo.)

I want to report concerning the mysterious "loss" of data. I was
convinced that data was written in a bad way, such that it could not be
read again because I also tried Tasque which works on the Evo Data
Server as well. Here, also all entries were gone and that convinced me
that something was corrupt.

However, I restarted Evo a couple of times during the day (pseudo-naive
hope in indeterminism, I guess), and finally, everything could be seen
again, only the layers (Calendars, Tasks lists) were switched invisible.
How come? (I certainly did not uncheck them before closing Evo, and even
if I did, Tasque would have still displayed the items.)

Well, for the moment I'll continue working with Evo and report the bugs
in bugzilla if time allows.

(I didn't check for the hibernate problem so far.)

So I step back from my claim that Evolution has to be much more mature
and claim that Evolution has to be a little more mature running under
ubuntu ;-)

Thanks so far,
Harald

PS: @Adam: well, maybe ubuntu needs to become a little more mature such
that Evo doesn't crash any more -- I don't care ;-)

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[Dave Jewett]

Pete Biggs wrote:

I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started 
Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The 
according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other 
words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no 
clue why.

    

Sometimes, if E-D-S dies, Evo forgets that it's supposed to display some
things.  Make sure there are ticks in the boxes next to the coloured
squares on the left hand pane of the calendar/tasks/memos screens.

As others have said, I have had many traumatic times with Evo, but it
has never deleted any of my data.

P.

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Well.  This bug:  Bug 550414 - Corruption of mailbox and can't expunge trash   seemingly has not been resolved since 2.24.

I've lost hundreds of emails because of it.

- Dave

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[Philippe LeCavalier]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 15:15 +0000, Harald Beck wrote:

Hi Philippe,

thanks for the reply.

It's interesting that the crashing on editing recurring events only
occurs in my case (at least not in everone's).

I'm certain someone else has seen this...Try running from a shell and turning up the debug level so we can get more info. I'm not expert but I'm certain someone can help if you had more info.

 Concerning Adam's
suggestion: Well, switching the operating system (which I've been really
happy with for a couple of years) only to get (possibly) a better
performance of Evo can't be the solution, right? ;-)

Definitely not a feasible option.

(I also don't see why the operating system should have to do so much
with editing an appointment in Evo.)

Exactly.

I want to report concerning the mysterious "loss" of data. I was
convinced that data was written in a bad way, such that it could not be
read again because I also tried Tasque which works on the Evo Data
Server as well. Here, also all entries were gone and that convinced me
that something was corrupt.

However, I restarted Evo a couple of times during the day (pseudo-naive
hope in indeterminism, I guess), and finally, everything could be seen
again, only the layers (Calendars, Tasks lists) were switched invisible.
How come? (I certainly did not uncheck them before closing Evo, and even
if I did, Tasque would have still displayed the items.)

This is probably do to the aforementioned crashing. Evo may have "removed the checkmarks" as a self-preservation tactic of sorts. But again, running from a shell in debug would help get to the bottom of this. Also, and maybe firstly, ensure the checkmarks are indeed there and restart(forced so that the data server shutdown as well).

Cheers,
Phil

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[Pete Biggs]

> >
> > (I also don't see why the operating system should have to do so much
> > with editing an appointment in Evo.)
> Exactly.

It's not the OS, it's the distribution that's the issue - we all
(mostly) run the same OS, i.e. Linux! (OK, I know there's some BSDers
and Windows users out there - but you know what I mean.)

But there does seem to be more problems with Evo on Ubuntu than on any
other distro.  It's probably down to the way Evo, or one of the
libraries it links to, has been configured/compiled.

> >
> > I want to report concerning the mysterious "loss" of data. I was
> > convinced that data was written in a bad way, such that it could not be
> > read again because I also tried Tasque which works on the Evo Data
> > Server as well. Here, also all entries were gone and that convinced me
> > that something was corrupt.
> >
> > However, I restarted Evo a couple of times during the day (pseudo-naive
> > hope in indeterminism, I guess), and finally, everything could be seen
> > again, only the layers (Calendars, Tasks lists) were switched invisible.
> > How come? (I certainly did not uncheck them before closing Evo, and even
> > if I did, Tasque would have still displayed the items.)
> This is probably do to the aforementioned crashing. Evo may have
> "removed the checkmarks" as a self-preservation tactic of sorts. But
> again, running from a shell in debug would help get to the bottom of
> this. Also, and maybe firstly, ensure the checkmarks are indeed there
> and restart(forced so that the data server shutdown as well).

As I said previously - if E-D-S dies, then all the calendars etc. are
disabled.  Try killing the E-D-S process while Evo is running and you
will see what I mean.

And if it is E-D-S that's the problem - and "Tasque" (whatever that is!)
is talking to E-D-S, then it will suffer from the same problems as Evo
does.

P.



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[Paul Smith-5]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 16:05 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> It's not the OS, it's the distribution that's the issue - we all
> (mostly) run the same OS, i.e. Linux! (OK, I know there's some BSDers
> and Windows users out there - but you know what I mean.)
>
> But there does seem to be more problems with Evo on Ubuntu than on any
> other distro.  It's probably down to the way Evo, or one of the
> libraries it links to, has been configured/compiled.

Possibly.  Another possibility is that there are more people using the
newer versions of Evo on Ubuntu, so that's where you see more problems.
Most Red Hat Enterprise users, for example, are still using very old
versions of Evo.

Also, Ubuntu tends to not update to the latest Gnome point releases,
once the main release is made.  So it looks like Ubuntu 9.10 will ship
with Gnome 2.28.1, but if/when Gnome 2.28.2 is released, with various
Evo bug fixes, there will (typically) not be a build of that release for
Ubuntu 9.10.  This leaves Ubuntu perpetually without the latest bug
fixes.


I've no idea... but as far as I know Ubuntu doesn't do a lot of extra
patching to Gnome in general, so I'd be mildly surprised if there was a
major difference in stability between Evo on Ubuntu and, say, Debian.

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[Kojak T]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:30 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 16:05 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > It's not the OS, it's the distribution that's the issue - we all
> > (mostly) run the same OS, i.e. Linux! (OK, I know there's some BSDers
> > and Windows users out there - but you know what I mean.)
> >
> > But there does seem to be more problems with Evo on Ubuntu than on any
> > other distro.  It's probably down to the way Evo, or one of the
> > libraries it links to, has been configured/compiled.
>
> Possibly.  Another possibility is that there are more people using the
> newer versions of Evo on Ubuntu, so that's where you see more problems.
> Most Red Hat Enterprise users, for example, are still using very old
> versions of Evo.
>
> Also, Ubuntu tends to not update to the latest Gnome point releases,
> once the main release is made.  So it looks like Ubuntu 9.10 will ship
> with Gnome 2.28.1, but if/when Gnome 2.28.2 is released, with various
> Evo bug fixes, there will (typically) not be a build of that release for
> Ubuntu 9.10.  This leaves Ubuntu perpetually without the latest bug
> fixes.
>
>
> I've no idea... but as far as I know Ubuntu doesn't do a lot of extra
> patching to Gnome in general, so I'd be mildly surprised if there was a
> major difference in stability between Evo on Ubuntu and, say, Debian.
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Hi,

I've been using Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy LTS) from the day it came out, and my
Evolution has been rock solid (had maybe 5 times in the last ... about 2
Years, that evolution froze on me while going to the calendar. Killing
it and restarting solves it, but yes you will have to do all your
settings as views, and what calendars are displayed, that's all)

I tent to stay away from installing newer versions than the normal
versions that come with the distribution. Well at least for the core
programs that are tightly interconnected with gnome. (evolution,
Firefox, open office) Other software, I've updated to the latest
versions available. and so far, that has kept me out of trouble.

On few of my testing machines, I do experiment with latest versions and
such, but I have to say as soon I start playing with the few core
programs, I seem to de-stabilize the system. If you don't have a few
testing machines kicking around, I would suggest, to install Virtual Box
and have a test version first to try out latest updates. I might be old
school, but I always want to keep what works and never change a good
running horse. Therefore, I have to say that I love the LTS versions
with Ubuntu. 3years, basically is a computer generation, and time to
move on to the next laptop.

Don't give up too quick on the open source community, the only
alternative is being frustrated with closed source, where the only
direction I see is a majority of upgrades for the sake of money, and
market position. (not saying that all are the same, there is good stuff
out there too. Finding the perfect balance is more important for a
business to run, than choosing either or)

Keep up the good work guys.

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[Art Alexion-4]

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:46 -0400, Harald Beck wrote:
>
> * If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started
> before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two
> mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel.
> This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution
> as
> usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why
> does
> it work for the other account!?)

With Ubuntu 9.04, Kmail and Evolution both display this behavior.  The
problem is that the MUAs start trying to retrieve mail before the
hibernating computer re-establishes a network connection.  The reason
you are not getting this problem with the other account may be that your
two accounts are set for different polling intervals, and the
non-problem account isn't hitting the server before the network is back
up.


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[Art Alexion-4]

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:46 -0400, Harald Beck wrote:
>
> * In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the
> memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

Filtering?


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[Art Alexion-4]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:12 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> > > * Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created
> > > appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to
> specify
> > > that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and
> create it
> > > again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before
> closing the
> > > formular.
> > I use 2.26.3 on Debian (Ubuntu is based on Debian so they're very
> > similar) and haven't experienced this.
>
> I'd suggest the solution is to stop using Ubuntu which seems to
> experience above-average instability.
>
> My Evolution doesn't crash or hang.

I don't have this problem with Ubuntu 8.04 or 9.04.


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[Matthew Barnes]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:35 +0000, Art Alexion wrote:
> With Ubuntu 9.04, Kmail and Evolution both display this behavior.  The
> problem is that the MUAs start trying to retrieve mail before the
> hibernating computer re-establishes a network connection.  The reason
> you are not getting this problem with the other account may be that
> your two accounts are set for different polling intervals, and the
> non-problem account isn't hitting the server before the network is
> back up.

The fundamental problem is there's no desktop-wide notification of
hibernate/suspend and resume.  Or if there is now, we're not listening
for it.  If we had such a notification it would be fairly simple to drop
to offline mode until we get a resume notification.

As things stand now Evolution has no idea that anything happened.  The
process resumes to find all it's network sockets are suddenly closed and
time has suddenly jumped far ahead, and it doesn't deal well with that
(unnecessary password prompts, cascading errors, etc.).

I believe the notification issue is being worked on (I'd have to check
with some of my Red Hat colleagues), but until that's in place I'd
recommend either shutting Evolution down or placing it in offline mode
yourself before hibernating or suspending.

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[Art Alexion-4]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 14:40 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:35 +0000, Art Alexion wrote:
> > With Ubuntu 9.04, Kmail and Evolution both display this behavior.
> The
> > problem is that the MUAs start trying to retrieve mail before the
> > hibernating computer re-establishes a network connection.  The
> reason
> > you are not getting this problem with the other account may be that
> > your two accounts are set for different polling intervals, and the
> > non-problem account isn't hitting the server before the network is
> > back up.
>
> The fundamental problem is there's no desktop-wide notification of
> hibernate/suspend and resume.  Or if there is now, we're not listening
> for it.  If we had such a notification it would be fairly simple to
> drop
> to offline mode until we get a resume notification.
>
> As things stand now Evolution has no idea that anything happened.  The
> process resumes to find all it's network sockets are suddenly closed
> and
> time has suddenly jumped far ahead, and it doesn't deal well with that
> (unnecessary password prompts, cascading errors, etc.).
>
> I believe the notification issue is being worked on (I'd have to check
> with some of my Red Hat colleagues), but until that's in place I'd
> recommend either shutting Evolution down or placing it in offline mode
> yourself before hibernating or suspending.

Thanks for the explanation.  That makes sense.  Lacking a notification
from gnome, kde or the OS, could evolution be made to test for a network
connection and abort interval checking until it detects one, or would
that cause too much of a problem when the network is normally up?

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[Matthew Barnes]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 19:28 +0000, Art Alexion wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation.  That makes sense.  Lacking a notification
> from gnome, kde or the OS, could evolution be made to test for a
> network connection and abort interval checking until it detects one,
> or would that cause too much of a problem when the network is normally
> up?

If I understand you correctly, it already drops offline automatically
when NetworkManager reports a disconnect.  But it's not clear whether
NetworkManager emits any useful notifications prior to a hibernate or
suspend that we could key off.  I would expect such notifications to
come from the session manager.

Matthew Barnes

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[Sylvia Sánchez]

El mar, 27-10-2009 a las 17:36 +0000, Art Alexion escribió:

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:46 -0400, Harald Beck wrote:
> 
> * In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the
> memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

Filtering?

Nop, it's not fultering, I don't know what it is. It happens to me but it doesn't annoyed me.


Sylvia


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[Ng Oon-Ee]

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 15:15 +0000, Harald Beck wrote:
*snip*
> (I also don't see why the operating system should have to do so much
> with editing an appointment in Evo.)
*snip*

Distro. Not operating system. Distros like Ubuntu basically select a
certain version of software and stick to it no matter what. Of course,
they don't do this randomly, but the hassle involved in changing this
version for something as integral to Gnome as Evolution means that if
you're using an old (or even current) Ubuntu version you're almost
certain to be running old Evo.

Add to that the fact that some distros (including Ubuntu) like to add
their own patches for perceived problems in the software and you begin
to see why the distro does make a big difference. Something simple like
misconfiguration (ex. Pulseaudio in 8.04) or the patches introducing
bugs.

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[Chenthill-2]

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 17:46 +0100, Harald Beck wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> here is some feedback to version 2.26 running under ubuntu.
>
> First, I encountered a couple of very annoying bugs: (No, I don't want
>
> to engage in Bugzilla; sorry.)
>
> * In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the
>
> memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view.

The memo view in calendar would list only the memos created on a
particular day. Say if a week is selected
it would list all the memos created during that week.

>
> * Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created
> appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify
> that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it
> again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing
> the
> formular.
Has been fixed - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579779 .

- Chenthill.

>
> * If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started
> before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two
> mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel.
> This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution
> as
> usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why
> does
> it work for the other account!?)
>
> There are other suggestions which are not bugs, but they shall not
> concern us here.
>
> I could live with the bugs above for some time, but: Today I started
> Evolution, and ALL calendar, task and memo entries were gone! The
> according lists to file them are still here, but no items. In other
> words, without doing anything, all information is gone and I have no
> clue why.
>
> I enjoyed using evolution more and more since I started using it a
> couple of months ago and so I managed to live with the mentioned bugs
> which were indeed annoying.
>
> But I cannot possibly use a software that deletes stored information,
> or
> stores it in such a way that it cannot be retrieved.
>
> Well, I might go now browse ~/.evolution and see whether I can do
> anything about, but hey, I wanna USE this software and not hack it.
>
> Hope that helps & looking forward to a (much) more mature version,
> Harald
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