Why no SAP nor DB2 on FreeBSD ?

[Saifi Khan-6]

Hi all:

In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
that there is:
 . no SAP for FreeBSD
 . no DB2 for FreeBSD
 . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
 . no Informix for FreeBSD

Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
What could be reason for this ?


thanks
Saifi.

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[Marius Nünnerich]

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 08:57, Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
> that there is:
>  . no SAP for FreeBSD
>  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
>  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
>  . no Informix for FreeBSD
>
> Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
> database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
> What could be reason for this ?

Same answer as last time: Please ask the respective vendors and report back.
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[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

Marius Nünnerich <marius@...> writes:
> Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> writes:
> > Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise database
> > setups have given FreeBSD a miss.  What could be reason for this ?
> Same answer as last time: Please ask the respective vendors and report back.

Furthermore, if there is a Linux version, try running it on FreeBSD, and
if it doesn't work, raise the issue on the mailing lists and / or submit
a PR so we can improve our Linux compatibility.

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[Saifi Khan-6]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Marius N?nnerich wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 08:57, Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
> > that there is:
> >  . no SAP for FreeBSD
> >  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
> >  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
> >  . no Informix for FreeBSD
> >
> > Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
> > database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
> > What could be reason for this ?
>
> Same answer as last time: Please ask the respective vendors and report back.
>

This cannot be accidental. So this time, i've taken a two-pronged approach.
1. checking information on vendor sites and with contacts.
2. close analysis of discussions on freebsd-hackers during 2003-2005 time frame.


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[Ivan Voras-7]

Saifi Khan wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
> that there is:
>  . no SAP for FreeBSD
>  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
>  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
>  . no Informix for FreeBSD
>
> Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
> database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
> What could be reason for this ?

An obvious guess would be that the userbase is too small and that makes
it unprofitable to support the products on FreeBSD.

[Tony Theodore]

2009/9/28 Ivan Voras <ivoras@...>

> Saifi Khan wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
> > that there is:
> >  . no SAP for FreeBSD
> >  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
> >  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
> >  . no Informix for FreeBSD
> >
> > Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
> > database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
> > What could be reason for this ?
>
> An obvious guess would be that the userbase is too small and that makes
> it unprofitable to support the products on FreeBSD.
>
> Which then leads the FreeBSD community to give those products a miss and

use alternatives, or find ways of running them without vendor support, which
further reduces demand.

I guess from an advocacy perspective, it's hard to get enthused about this
as the alternatives seem more attractive. It's not like hardware drivers
that do constrain usage and development.

Tony
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[Saifi Khan-6]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Ivan Voras wrote:

> Saifi Khan wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
> > that there is:
> >  . no SAP for FreeBSD
> >  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
> >  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
> >  . no Informix for FreeBSD
> >
> > Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
> > database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
> > What could be reason for this ?
>
> An obvious guess would be that the userbase is too small and that makes
> it unprofitable to support the products on FreeBSD.
>

Thanks for providing the perspective on the issue.

Here is a rather straight query, "how do we grow the userbase" ?


thanks
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[Julian H. Stacey-3]

> Thanks for providing the perspective on the issue.
>
> Here is a rather straight query, "how do we grow the userbase" ?

IMO enough noise.

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[Ivan Voras-7]

2009/9/28 Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...>:

> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Ivan Voras wrote:
>
>> Saifi Khan wrote:
>> > Hi all:
>> >
>> > In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
>> > that there is:
>> >  . no SAP for FreeBSD
>> >  . no DB2 for FreeBSD
>> >  . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
>> >  . no Informix for FreeBSD
>> >
>> > Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
>> > database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
>> > What could be reason for this ?
>>
>> An obvious guess would be that the userbase is too small and that makes
>> it unprofitable to support the products on FreeBSD.
>>
>
> Thanks for providing the perspective on the issue.
>
> Here is a rather straight query, "how do we grow the userbase" ?

Something like that is very tedious and hard, mostly because it's a
chicken-and-the-end problem. Vendors will not develop products (and
device drivers) for platforms with few users because it's
unprofitable, and users will not use new platforms that have low
vendor support. For a very pertinent example, see Linux - it has a
vastly bigger user base and it's still largely unsupported by sw & hw
vendors.

There is no completely right "solution" for this - you can't even
create a global survey of users that would possibly use a new platform
if it were supported and submit it to vendors because the users  are
not well enough informed about it.

One angle that would be interesting to play with vendors would be the
BSD license - enabling them to create proprietary solutions  - but
apparently vendors are not that scared of the GPL.
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