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Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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I'm sure this question was asked and answered a while ago, but I can't
seem to find it through searching. On the post screen there used to be pretty tooltips when you hovered over the icons for "Add an Image," "Add a Video," etc. Then after one update, they were suddenly gone. I hate explaining to clients how to find the button to add an image, because it's just an icon with no descriptive text. At least the tooltip provided a big blatant label when hovering. Plus it looked nice. Always wondering why it was removed.... _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by scribu
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The tolltips are still there in WP 2.9-rare. Check the HTML.
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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The 'pretty' tooltips certainly aren't.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:22 AM, scribu <scribu@...> wrote: > The tolltips are still there in WP 2.9-rare. Check the HTML. > > > -- > http://scribu.net > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Tim Moore-15
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I still see tooltips on my installs of 2.8. A yellow popup with text
describing each Add Media link comes up, no problem. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Bryan Harley <bryanharley@...> wrote: > The 'pretty' tooltips certainly aren't. > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:22 AM, scribu <scribu@...> wrote: > > The tolltips are still there in WP 2.9-rare. Check the HTML. > > > > > > -- > > http://scribu.net > > _______________________________________________ > > wp-hackers mailing list > > wp-hackers@... > > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > > > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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I'm referring to the stylized tooltips that were present in 2.5, but remove
shortly thereafter. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Tim Moore <tim.moore@...> wrote: > I still see tooltips on my installs of 2.8. A yellow popup with text > describing each Add Media link comes up, no problem. > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Bryan Harley <bryanharley@...> > wrote: > > > The 'pretty' tooltips certainly aren't. > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:22 AM, scribu <scribu@...> wrote: > > > The tolltips are still there in WP 2.9-rare. Check the HTML. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://scribu.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wp-hackers mailing list > > > wp-hackers@... > > > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wp-hackers mailing list > > wp-hackers@... > > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > > > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Otto-19
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The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of common.js here:
http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 They were a big deal in 2.5: http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. -Otto _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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Sounds like an easy fix for 2.9. :-)
Thanks for the investigating Otto. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Otto <otto@...> wrote: > The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of common.js > here: > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 > > They were a big deal in 2.5: > http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ > > I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. > > -Otto > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by scribu
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Otto <otto@...> wrote:
> > > The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of common.js > > here: > > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 > > > > They were a big deal in 2.5: > > http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ > > > > I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. > > > > -Otto > Probably removed due to browser compatibility. They look like bloat to me, so I say "Good riddance". -- http://scribu.net _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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Nevermind, looks like all that's gone from the current trunk. I'm curious
to know why it was removed and if we can get it restored. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bryan Harley <bryanharley@...>wrote: > Sounds like an easy fix for 2.9. :-) > > Thanks for the investigating Otto. > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Otto <otto@...> wrote: > >> The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of common.js >> here: >> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 >> >> They were a big deal in 2.5: >> http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ >> >> I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. >> >> -Otto >> _______________________________________________ >> wp-hackers mailing list >> wp-hackers@... >> http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers >> > > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Bryan Harley
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Scribu - From the standpoint of usability, I think we at least need
descriptive text need to each media button. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM, scribu <scribu@...> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Otto <otto@...> wrote: > > > > > > The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of > common.js > > > here: > > > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 > > > > > > They were a big deal in 2.5: > > > http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ > > > > > > I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. > > > > > > -Otto > > > > Probably removed due to browser compatibility. > > They look like bloat to me, so I say "Good riddance". > > > -- > http://scribu.net > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by scribu
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Bryan Harley <bryanharley@...> wrote:
> Scribu - From the standpoint of usability, I think we at least need > descriptive text need to each media button. > Descriptive text is displayed well enough using native tooltips. The old ones just add rounded corners. -- http://scribu.net _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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TinyMCE in the frontend?
by Matthew Gerring
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Hello all.
I'm banging my head against the wall right now trying to get a TinyMCE editor to show up on a front-end page. I used the_editor(); , which works to an extent, until I actually try to use the textarea it creates. Not only do the HTML buttons not do anything, but I can't switch into TinyMCE mode. I get an undefined function call. I know that in order for TinyMCE to work you have to include a boatload of JS and CSS, but there doesn't seem to be a complete list anywhere, and all of the documentation on this I've seen is centered on how to include TinyMCE in plugins, not in a front-end page, so the filters I have to use are totally different. Moreover, calling wp_tiny_mce(); at any point in a front-end page causes the whole thing to whitescreen. I'm using WPMU, although I'm not sure if that makes a difference. Does anyone know how to do this? -Matthew _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: TinyMCE in the frontend?
by Nathan Rice
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http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2009-October/028176.html
------------------ Nathan Rice WordPress and Web Development www.nathanrice.net | twitter.com/nathanrice | www.modthemes.com On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Matthew Gerring <mgerring@...> wrote: > Hello all. > > I'm banging my head against the wall right now trying to get a TinyMCE > editor to show up on a front-end page. > > I used the_editor(); , which works to an extent, until I actually try to > use the textarea it creates. Not only do the HTML buttons not do anything, > but I can't switch into TinyMCE mode. I get an undefined function call. > > I know that in order for TinyMCE to work you have to include a boatload of > JS and CSS, but there doesn't seem to be a complete list anywhere, and all > of the documentation on this I've seen is centered on how to include TinyMCE > in plugins, not in a front-end page, so the filters I have to use are > totally different. > > Moreover, calling wp_tiny_mce(); at any point in a front-end page causes > the whole thing to whitescreen. > > I'm using WPMU, although I'm not sure if that makes a difference. > > Does anyone know how to do this? > > -Matthew > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: TinyMCE in the frontend?
by Matthew Gerring
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Right. The instructions in that message didn't work. wp_tiny_mce();
just causes WordPress to whitescreen if it's placed in the header, and I haven't found a filter that actually causes any of those scripts to be loaded in the front end. I've tried wp_head and template_redirect. Either nothing happens, or I just get a white screen. On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Nathan Rice wrote: > http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2009-October/028176.html > > ------------------ > Nathan Rice > WordPress and Web Development > www.nathanrice.net | twitter.com/nathanrice | www.modthemes.com > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Matthew Gerring <mgerring@...> > wrote: > >> Hello all. >> >> I'm banging my head against the wall right now trying to get a >> TinyMCE >> editor to show up on a front-end page. >> >> I used the_editor(); , which works to an extent, until I actually >> try to >> use the textarea it creates. Not only do the HTML buttons not do >> anything, >> but I can't switch into TinyMCE mode. I get an undefined function >> call. >> >> I know that in order for TinyMCE to work you have to include a >> boatload of >> JS and CSS, but there doesn't seem to be a complete list anywhere, >> and all >> of the documentation on this I've seen is centered on how to >> include TinyMCE >> in plugins, not in a front-end page, so the filters I have to use are >> totally different. >> >> Moreover, calling wp_tiny_mce(); at any point in a front-end page >> causes >> the whole thing to whitescreen. >> >> I'm using WPMU, although I'm not sure if that makes a difference. >> >> Does anyone know how to do this? >> >> -Matthew >> _______________________________________________ >> wp-hackers mailing list >> wp-hackers@... >> http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers >> > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Otto-19
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For reference, the tooltips were checked in by matt (on behalf of
azaozz, who also later removed them) here: http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/7311/trunk/wp-admin/js/common.js IMO, judging from the fact that they got commented out in a seemingly unrelated ticket, I'm guessing that their removal was a total mistake. But you'd have to ask Andrew and/or Matt about that. -Otto Sent from Memphis, TN, United States On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM, scribu <scribu@...> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Otto <otto@...> wrote: > >> >> > The "pretty" tooltips he's talking about were commented out of common.js >> > here: >> > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/8785 >> > >> > They were a big deal in 2.5: >> > http://planetozh.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-wordpress-25-tooltips/ >> > >> > I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. >> > >> > -Otto >> > > Probably removed due to browser compatibility. > > They look like bloat to me, so I say "Good riddance". > > > -- > http://scribu.net > _______________________________________________ > wp-hackers mailing list > wp-hackers@... > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers > wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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Re: Why were the image tooltips removed?
by Jeremy Visser-2
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On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:40 -0500, Otto wrote:
> I do not know why they were removed. Can't figure it out. Because they only worked with JavaScript enabled, likely. Plus, putting the labels in the title="" attribute is far more semantic. (So if you want tooltips like WP 2.5, the proper "ground-up" solution is to fix your user-agent to display tooltips with no delay, not make a JavaScript hack.) _______________________________________________ wp-hackers mailing list wp-hackers@... http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers |
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