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Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by David Gerard-2 :: Rate this Message:

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(spotted by Fuzheado)

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/5/789941/-Wingnuts-Rewriting-the-Bible-to-Make-it-Less-Liberal

(context: the Conservapedia translation of the Bible.)


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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by Charles Matthews :: Rate this Message:

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David Gerard wrote:
> (spotted by Fuzheado)
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/5/789941/-Wingnuts-Rewriting-the-Bible-to-Make-it-Less-Liberal
>
> (context: the Conservapedia translation of the Bible.)
>  
"Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness" is pretty good though
(scroll down). The wordiness was actually specified ("circumlocution",
see Adam Nicolson's book on the KJV) by James I, that well-known soft
touch for liberal causes (note that he failed to see the libertarian
case for allowing people to smoke if they wanted to).

Charles****



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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by Tony Sidaway :: Rate this Message:

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On 10/6/09, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews@...> wrote:
>>
> "Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness" is pretty good though
> (scroll down).

That's a doozy.

Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"

http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Terms

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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by KillerChihuahua :: Rate this Message:

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So if you're verbose in the name of Liberalism, that's "wordy" and bad, but
if you're verbose in the name of Conservatism, that's "strong" and good?

check. I'll remember that. I'd hate to be verbose for all the wrong reasons.


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From: "Tony Sidaway" <tonysidaway@...>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:47 PM
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> On 10/6/09, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews@...> wrote:
>>>
>> "Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness" is pretty good though
>> (scroll down).
>
> That's a doozy.
>
> Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
> links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
> 1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
> geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"
>
> http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Terms
>
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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by Ray Saintonge :: Rate this Message:

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KillerChihuahua wrote:
> So if you're verbose in the name of Liberalism, that's "wordy" and bad, but
> if you're verbose in the name of Conservatism, that's "strong" and good?
>
> check. I'll remember that. I'd hate to be verbose for all the wrong reasons.
>  

That's not the distinction that I would make. Conservatives don't need
to be verbose because they believe that they already have God's truth.
Liberals too easily spend much time on trying to figure out what to
create in place of God, and figuring out how to avoid stepping on the
merry-go-round.


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Sidaway"
>> On 10/6/09, Charles Matthews wrote:
>>    
>>> "Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness" is pretty good though
>>> (scroll down).
>>>      
>> That's a doozy.
>>
>> Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
>> links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
>> 1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
>> geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"
>>    
>


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by Daniel R. Tobias :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:47:33 +0100, Tony Sidaway wrote:

> Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
> links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
> 1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
> geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"
>
> http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Terms

What definition of "conservative" is being used?  Creating anything
"powerful, insightful, new" seems like a very liberal, progressive
thing to do as opposed to conservatively sticking to what is tried
and true.


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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by KillerChihuahua :: Rate this Message:

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It wasn't a distinction. It was intended as a joke.

See also: lead balloon

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> KillerChihuahua wrote:
>> So if you're verbose in the name of Liberalism, that's "wordy" and bad,
>> but
>> if you're verbose in the name of Conservatism, that's "strong" and good?
>>
>> check. I'll remember that. I'd hate to be verbose for all the wrong
>> reasons.
>>
>
> That's not the distinction that I would make. Conservatives don't need
> to be verbose because they believe that they already have God's truth.
> Liberals too easily spend much time on trying to figure out what to
> create in place of God, and figuring out how to avoid stepping on the
> merry-go-round.
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tony Sidaway"
>>> On 10/6/09, Charles Matthews wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness" is pretty good though
>>>> (scroll down).
>>>>
>>> That's a doozy.
>>>
>>> Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
>>> links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
>>> 1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
>>> geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Wikipedia: "a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations"

by Tony Sidaway :: Rate this Message:

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On 10/11/09, Daniel R. Tobias <dan@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:47:33 +0100, Tony Sidaway wrote:
>
>> Note also that principle 4, "Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms",
>> links to another of Schlafly's crackpot projects, to prove that since
>> 1612, "Powerful, insightful new conservative terms have grown at a
>> geometric rate, roughly doubling every century"
>>
>> http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Terms
>
> What definition of "conservative" is being used?  Creating anything
> "powerful, insightful, new" seems like a very liberal, progressive
> thing to do as opposed to conservatively sticking to what is tried
> and true.

These fellows are religious conservatives so conservatism for them
means sticking with whatever they think their book tells them about
the man in the sky.  "Liberalism" in this view is literally a disease
of the mind leading (again, literally) to perdition.

If you think I'm laying it on too thick, see this:

http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Liberal&oldid=698019

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