Win32 Ekiga-3.2.6 available

[Michael Rickmann]

After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
release. You find the installers and how to build in
http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
The Win32 version has two issues:
1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
   Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .
2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
   the desktop helps.
Regards
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[Damien Sandras]

Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 09:35 +0200, Michael Rickmann a écrit :
> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> release. You find the installers and how to build in
> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .

Excellent!

> The Win32 version has two issues:
> 1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
>    Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .

What's the patch ?

> 2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
>    the desktop helps.

I don't understand.

However, I have a question. Do you think that version to be stable
enough to be released as stable publicly on ekiga.org ?
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[Eugen Dedu]

Michael Rickmann wrote:
> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> release. You find the installers and how to build in
> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
> The Win32 version has two issues:
> 1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
>    Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .
> 2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
>    the desktop helps.

Hi Michael,

Excellent news!

I updated http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users page yesterday,
but now it is already obsolete :o)  Could you take care of it (new
3.2.pre6 link, is 3.0.2 still *the stable* release?)?

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[Michael Rickmann]

Am Mittwoch, den 23.09.2009, 10:00 +0200 schrieb Eugen Dedu:

> Michael Rickmann wrote:
> > After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> > for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> > release. You find the installers and how to build in
> > http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
> > The Win32 version has two issues:
> > 1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
> >    Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .
> > 2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
> >    the desktop helps.
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Excellent news!
>
> I updated http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users page yesterday,
> but now it is already obsolete :o)  Could you take care of it (new
> 3.2.pre6 link, is 3.0.2 still *the stable* release?)?
>

Hi Eugen,
it seems I should try to edit the Wiki page, but apparently I am too
stupid to create an account. For me the Win32 3.2.6 is better than the
3.0.2 was and equally stable. So I would make 3.2.6 the new stable and
put 3.0.2 into the Previous Releases. A new 3.2.pre7 will emerge next
week adressing the tray icon. I think that gwdg.de has enough bandwidth
(mirroring Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, ...), so that we can leave the files
there.
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[Yannick-GNU/Linux]

Michael Rickmann a écrit :

> Am Mittwoch, den 23.09.2009, 10:00 +0200 schrieb Eugen Dedu:
>> Michael Rickmann wrote:
>>> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
>>> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
>>> release. You find the installers and how to build in
>>> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
>>> The Win32 version has two issues:
>>> 1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
>>>    Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .
>>> 2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
>>>    the desktop helps.
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Excellent news!
>>
>> I updated http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users page yesterday,
>> but now it is already obsolete :o)  Could you take care of it (new
>> 3.2.pre6 link, is 3.0.2 still *the stable* release?)?
>>
> Hi Eugen,
> it seems I should try to edit the Wiki page, but apparently I am too
> stupid to create an account. For me the Win32 3.2.6 is better than the

No, you're not! It is just we disabled self account creation because of
some bot. Just give me an username and i'll create you one using your email.

> 3.0.2 was and equally stable. So I would make 3.2.6 the new stable and
> put 3.0.2 into the Previous Releases. A new 3.2.pre7 will emerge next
> week adressing the tray icon. I think that gwdg.de has enough bandwidth
> (mirroring Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, ...), so that we can leave the files
> there.
> Michael
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[michel memeteau-2]

Hello , thanks for this new release , especially appreciated for Win32

2009/9/23 Michael Rickmann <mrickma@...>:I think that gwdg.de has
enough bandwidth
> (mirroring Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, ...), so that we can leave the files
> there.


I downloaded at 80 Ko/s so it's pretty slow. Why not give Mickael a
way to upload his release on ekiga.org ?



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michel memeteau a écrit :

> Hello , thanks for this new release , especially appreciated for Win32
>
> 2009/9/23 Michael Rickmann <mrickma@...>:I think that gwdg.de has
> enough bandwidth
>> (mirroring Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, ...), so that we can leave the files
>> there.
>
>
> I downloaded at 80 Ko/s so it's pretty slow. Why not give Mickael a
> way to upload his release on ekiga.org ?
>

Well I was quite busy with the 3.2.6 release, now i'm quit busy with
packaging it. My next step is to move ekiga.org to drupal, it should
give new features like account management for uploading package directly
there...

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[Michael Rickmann]

Am Mittwoch, den 23.09.2009, 11:06 +0200 schrieb michel memeteau:

> Hello , thanks for this new release , especially appreciated for Win32
>
> 2009/9/23 Michael Rickmann <mrickma@...>:I think that gwdg.de has
> enough bandwidth
> > (mirroring Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, ...), so that we can leave the files
> > there.
>
>
> I downloaded at 80 Ko/s so it's pretty slow. Why not give Mickael a
> way to upload his release on ekiga.org ?
>
>
>

Well its DFN (Deutsches Forschungsnetz
http://www.dfn.de/index.php?id=74989&L=2 ) so I guess its a provider /
gateway problem. I just downloaded at 6.0 M/s.
Michael

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[Michael Rickmann]

Am Mittwoch, den 23.09.2009, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Damien Sandras:

> Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 09:35 +0200, Michael Rickmann a écrit :
> > After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> > for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> > release. You find the installers and how to build in
> > http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
>
> Excellent!
>
> > The Win32 version has two issues:
> > 1) ptlib was patched with a workaround to let Ekiga terminate under
> >    Vista.  This is still a to do for 3.2.7 .
>
> What's the patch ?

It is the one from
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2835713&group_id=204472&atid=989748 .
A think that Robert is right in his comment that it plasters over a
deeper problem. I suspect that Vista's heap manager falls into a self
inflicted loop due to previous mishaps which we have caused. In the logs
you usually find the system times a thread has used, this also works for
XP and Win7, but only rarely under Vista. There seem to be a number of
threads which get killed (!!) before Vista gets stuck with the interface
monitor thread.

>
> > 2) The tray icon menu is difficult to close. Dragging a menu item onto
> >    the desktop helps.
>
> I don't understand.
Well, Windows' system tray seems pretty different from the notification
area which you find under linux. Gtk+ does its best to encapsulate that,
but it is not perfect. You right click on Ekiga's status icon, a menu
scrolls up (ugly, Win32 does not need the positioning function). If you
do not wish to select any of the menu items you click around and can not
make the menu disappear. The trick is to click on a menu item, leave the
button down and drag the cursor out of the menu (see also
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1138891/gtk-statusicon-and-gtk-menu-on-windows ).
Another point is that "gtk_window_has_toplevel_focus" seems unreliable
for Ekiga under Win32 so the stuff around line 273 in statusicon.cpp
does not work.

>
> However, I have a question. Do you think that version to be stable
> enough to be released as stable publicly on ekiga.org ?
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I would not call it stable but beta, something like skype 2.1 for Linux.
Win32 Ekiga has better audio but a few other glitches (see point 2
above), but it is perfectly usable. Whether to place it publicly on
ekiga.org is more a strategic decision. We certainly need more testers.
But I might easily become overdemanded by to many complaints. Would it
be possible for one of the real Ekiga developers to borrow a Windows
computer test Win32 Ekiga and then tell wether it comes close to the
Linux Version. If yes, then place the Win32 port publicly.
Michael

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[Damien Sandras]

Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 12:04 +0200, Michael Rickmann a écrit :

> >
> > However, I have a question. Do you think that version to be stable
> > enough to be released as stable publicly on ekiga.org ?
> > --
> >  _     Damien Sandras
> I would not call it stable but beta, something like skype 2.1 for Linux.
> Win32 Ekiga has better audio but a few other glitches (see point 2
> above), but it is perfectly usable. Whether to place it publicly on
> ekiga.org is more a strategic decision. We certainly need more testers.
> But I might easily become overdemanded by to many complaints. Would it
> be possible for one of the real Ekiga developers to borrow a Windows
> computer test Win32 Ekiga and then tell wether it comes close to the
> Linux Version. If yes, then place the Win32 port publicly.

Eugen, Yannick ?

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Damien Sandras a écrit :

> Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 12:04 +0200, Michael Rickmann a écrit :
>>> However, I have a question. Do you think that version to be stable
>>> enough to be released as stable publicly on ekiga.org ?
>>> --
>>>  _     Damien Sandras
>> I would not call it stable but beta, something like skype 2.1 for Linux.
>> Win32 Ekiga has better audio but a few other glitches (see point 2
>> above), but it is perfectly usable. Whether to place it publicly on
>> ekiga.org is more a strategic decision. We certainly need more testers.
>> But I might easily become overdemanded by to many complaints. Would it
>> be possible for one of the real Ekiga developers to borrow a Windows
>> computer test Win32 Ekiga and then tell wether it comes close to the
>> Linux Version. If yes, then place the Win32 port publicly.
>
> Eugen, Yannick ?
>

*maybe* this week-end I'll have some time to test with a win32 box (XP)
with eugen if he is available...
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[Eugen Dedu]

yannick wrote:

> Damien Sandras a écrit :
>> Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 12:04 +0200, Michael Rickmann a écrit :
>>>> However, I have a question. Do you think that version to be stable
>>>> enough to be released as stable publicly on ekiga.org ?
>>>> --
>>>>  _     Damien Sandras
>>> I would not call it stable but beta, something like skype 2.1 for Linux.
>>> Win32 Ekiga has better audio but a few other glitches (see point 2
>>> above), but it is perfectly usable. Whether to place it publicly on
>>> ekiga.org is more a strategic decision. We certainly need more testers.
>>> But I might easily become overdemanded by to many complaints. Would it
>>> be possible for one of the real Ekiga developers to borrow a Windows
>>> computer test Win32 Ekiga and then tell wether it comes close to the
>>> Linux Version. If yes, then place the Win32 port publicly.
>> Eugen, Yannick ?
>>
>
> *maybe* this week-end I'll have some time to test with a win32 box (XP)
> with eugen if he is available...

This week-end is busy for me.  Maybe Saturday afternoon.

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[Michael Rickmann]

(snip)

> >>
> >> I updated http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users page yesterday,
> >> but now it is already obsolete :o)  Could you take care of it (new
> >> 3.2.pre6 link, is 3.0.2 still *the stable* release?)?
> >>
> > Hi Eugen,
> > it seems I should try to edit the Wiki page, but apparently I am too
> > stupid to create an account. For me the Win32 3.2.6 is better than the
>
> No, you're not! It is just we disabled self account creation because of
> some bot. Just give me an username and i'll create you one using your email.
>

(snip)
Thanks for your help. I just updated the wiki. It looks ok now and the
links are functional.
Michael

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[Jarmo Pussinen]

Hi

Michael Rickmann wrote:
> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> release. You find the installers and how to build in
> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .

Nice work.

But I have now noticed a problem that my local video is now
always distorted. I was wondering, why it started happen now and
then I remembered I had changed picture resolution to 640x480.
Same problem is also in 352x288 resolution, but my earlier resolution
320x240 seem to work fine.

The picture is split in different
parts of the real picture for example:
 ---------------------
| Part of real picture|
|---------------------
| Right side  | Left  |
| of the pic- | side  |
| ture        | of the|
|             | pic-  |
|             | ture  |
|             |       |
 ---------------------


But the distortions are not always the same but size, position
and number (2 or 3) varies.

I attached a zip of logs. It includes pictures of the
distortions. The distortions are the same in PIP mode,
local view only mode and at the remote end.

I got also a log of a time, when I had to kill ekiga after
quit and one when my local video failed to start.

One thing about installer the "Will launch ekiga when Windows Starts."
is not localized. I checked from the code and it seems that there is
no macro for it in langmacros.nsh, but the string is used as is in
ekiga.nsi.


Regards
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[Jarmo Pussinen]

Jarmo Pussinen wrote:

> Hi
>
> Michael Rickmann wrote:
>> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
>> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
>> release. You find the installers and how to build in
>> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
>
> Nice work.
>
> But I have now noticed a problem that my local video is now
> always distorted. I was wondering, why it started happen now and
> then I remembered I had changed picture resolution to 640x480.
> Same problem is also in 352x288 resolution, but my earlier resolution
> 320x240 seem to work fine.
>
> The picture is split in different
> parts of the real picture for example:
>  ---------------------
> | Part of real picture|
> |---------------------
> | Right side  | Left  |
> | of the pic- | side  |
> | ture        | of the|
> |             | pic-  |
> |             | ture  |
> |             |       |
>  ---------------------
>
>
> But the distortions are not always the same but size, position
> and number (2 or 3) varies.
>
> I attached a zip of logs. It includes pictures of the
> distortions. The distortions are the same in PIP mode,
> local view only mode and at the remote end.
>
> I got also a log of a time, when I had to kill ekiga after
> quit and one when my local video failed to start.
>
> One thing about installer the "Will launch ekiga when Windows Starts."
> is not localized. I checked from the code and it seems that there is
> no macro for it in langmacros.nsh, but the string is used as is in
> ekiga.nsi.
>
>
> Regards
> jarmo
>
>
>

The missing attachment was too big so I put it here:
<http://www.pt-controlnet.fi/ekiga/ekiga-logs-01.zip>

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[Michael Rickmann]

Hi Jarmo,
that local video split sounds serious, thank you for reporting. I have
never seen seen something like that. I admit that I have not played very
much with the resolutions. For my old Phillips ToU Cam Pro which I use
mostly I tried only 640x480 and 320x240 and for both resolutions NTSC.
I will try to reproduce your error this evening when I have a Windows
Computer with Web Cam available.
As to your logs, they all look rather similar to me - in the failed one
you just did not get any frame from the cam. Let us take
ekiga-stderr-local-video-distorted-02.txt to reconstruct what may be
significant.

1) line 93: You wanted 640x480 at 30 fps (NTSC).
2) line 2165: Your cam supports 160x120 and 176x144 at 30 fps, higher
resolutions at 15 fps and below.
3) line 2227 and below: ptlib decides to take 352x288 at 25 fps using
the cam format 20 which is actually 352x288 at 15fps.
4) line 2413 and following: directx video output appears at 352x288.
That is what your pictures approx. are.

Did you really choose 640x320 and NTSC in Ekiga?
The only mismatch which I can detect is that between the 25 and 15 fps.
I will have to compare with my logs tonight.
Regards
Michael

Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 10:39 +0300 schrieb Jarmo Pussinen:

> Jarmo Pussinen wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Michael Rickmann wrote:
> >> After more than two weeks of absence I am back and will care a bit more
> >> for Ekiga's Win32 port. So first thing to do was to build the new stable
> >> release. You find the installers and how to build in
> >> http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ .
> >
> > Nice work.
> >
> > But I have now noticed a problem that my local video is now
> > always distorted. I was wondering, why it started happen now and
> > then I remembered I had changed picture resolution to 640x480.
> > Same problem is also in 352x288 resolution, but my earlier resolution
> > 320x240 seem to work fine.
> >
> > The picture is split in different
> > parts of the real picture for example:
> >  ---------------------
> > | Part of real picture|
> > |---------------------
> > | Right side  | Left  |
> > | of the pic- | side  |
> > | ture        | of the|
> > |             | pic-  |
> > |             | ture  |
> > |             |       |
> >  ---------------------
> >
> >
> > But the distortions are not always the same but size, position
> > and number (2 or 3) varies.
> >
> > I attached a zip of logs. It includes pictures of the
> > distortions. The distortions are the same in PIP mode,
> > local view only mode and at the remote end.
> >
> > I got also a log of a time, when I had to kill ekiga after
> > quit and one when my local video failed to start.
> >
> > One thing about installer the "Will launch ekiga when Windows Starts."
> > is not localized. I checked from the code and it seems that there is
> > no macro for it in langmacros.nsh, but the string is used as is in
> > ekiga.nsi.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > jarmo
> >
> >
> >
>
> The missing attachment was too big so I put it here:
> <http://www.pt-controlnet.fi/ekiga/ekiga-logs-01.zip>
>
> jarmo
>
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[Jarmo Pussinen]

Hi Michael
Michael Rickmann wrote:

> Hi Jarmo,
> that local video split sounds serious, thank you for reporting. I have
> never seen seen something like that. I admit that I have not played very
> much with the resolutions. For my old Phillips ToU Cam Pro which I use
> mostly I tried only 640x480 and 320x240 and for both resolutions NTSC.
> I will try to reproduce your error this evening when I have a Windows
> Computer with Web Cam available.
> As to your logs, they all look rather similar to me - in the failed one
> you just did not get any frame from the cam. Let us take
> ekiga-stderr-local-video-distorted-02.txt to reconstruct what may be
> significant.
>
> 1) line 93: You wanted 640x480 at 30 fps (NTSC).

This line number seems to be wrong, because I did not find
anything about video.

> 2) line 2165: Your cam supports 160x120 and 176x144 at 30 fps, higher
> resolutions at 15 fps and below.
> 3) line 2227 and below: ptlib decides to take 352x288 at 25 fps using
> the cam format 20 which is actually 352x288 at 15fps.
> 4) line 2413 and following: directx video output appears at 352x288.
> That is what your pictures approx. are.
>
> Did you really choose 640x320 and NTSC in Ekiga?

No all resolutions were selected as PAL.

> The only mismatch which I can detect is that between the 25 and 15 fps.
> I will have to compare with my logs tonight.

I made a new log, where I at first have 320x240 PAL and then
select 640x480 PAL, and then select mode NTSC, SECAM and
Automatic. But after that Secam selection the Webcam seemed
to get so confused that automatic did not work.

<http://www.pt-controlnet.fi/ekiga/ekiga-stderr-different-video-modes.zip>

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