Windows 2009.2 installer package: please test

[allard-3]

Hi all,

I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows based on:

hugin tarball 2009.2 release
libpano svn 1098 (=beta3 + small changes)
autopano sift c 2.5.1 final
enblend binaries from hugin 0.7 release

You can download it at
http://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin_2009_02_installer_w32_RC1.exe

Even though this is based on what should be stable releases I call
this RC1 for this installer package, not in the least because I've had
very little time for testing. Haven't yet gotten around to making the
'no control point generator' version but that should be
straightforward. I won't have any time for modifications this week
either, but please test and report problems to the list. If nobody
finds problems, any of the developers with sufficient permission
should feel free to upload this file to Sourceforge.

allard


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[Lajos Höss]

Hi,

This version hugin working, but has a problem in fast preview window. In fast preview window, the top "icon line" too long and the space beetwen two icon very high. Some icon not see, and not selectable. My desktop is 1280x1024pixel. Other buttons, and the preview i think is ok. 

Lajos

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Hi Allard,

allard wrote:
> I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows

good job.


> Even though this is based on what should be stable releases I call
> this RC1 for this installer package, not in the least because I've had
> very little time for testing.

Testing should anyway be done on more than a single PC.


> Haven't yet gotten around to making the
> 'no control point generator' version but that should be
> straightforward. I won't have any time for modifications this week
> either, but please test and report problems to the list. If nobody
> finds problems, any of the developers with sufficient permission
> should feel free to upload this file to Sourceforge.


*you* have sufficient permission to upload the file to Sourceforge.

Steps 8 and 9 of
http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Release

I recommend uploading a 'no control point generator' and make a separate
installer for each CP generator, like Harry already does on OSX.

IANAL, but logic tells me that uploading to SF, whose servers are
located in the United States, is like importing to the United States. US
based Linux distributions, like Fedora/RedHat which has lawyers, made
the informed decision not to distribute Autopano-SIFT-C and the other CP
generators. Consult your lawyer before importing patent-infringing
binaries to the US. SF keeps tracks of who uploads what.

Yuv

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Lajos Höss wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This version hugin working, but has a problem in fast preview window. In
> fast preview window, the top "icon line" too long and the space beetwen two
> icon very high.

Hi Lajos,

this is a problem with the translations. The longest translation of the
text under the buttons in the toolbar (="icon line") determines the
width of all buttons in Windows (In Linux some buttons become larger
than the rest, making it functional but ugly).

this means, the longest of the translation for any of the following
terms determines the button width in Windows:

Center
Fit
Straighten
Num. Transf.
All
None
Photometrics
Drag
Crop
Identify
Show control points

This is the reason why "Numeric Transform" was abbreviated to "Num.
Transf." in English.

The culprit is most likely "Show control points", which even in English
I'm inclined to rename "Show C.P."

However this is a short-term fix. We need a better fix to make sure the
buttons / functionalities are all available at "normal" screen width.

This will become urgent with the integration of the upcoming Layout mode.

Yuv

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[RueiKe]

Hi Allard,

I had limited time this evening for testing, but I hope run through
more tomorrow.   So far it looks good!

Platform: Vista 64bit, using English interface for Hugin, Hugin
installed over 0.8.0.

Project: 155 image 360x180 with 5 shot 1EV step brackets aligned with
~17k alignment points.  Previously completed this project with Ryan's
64bit build of 0.8.0

Observations:
Align - Works with no issues
Optimiser - Optimize Everything works with no issues
Exposure - Optimize low dynamic range with 1000pts per image work with
no issues
Autopano-SIFT-C - This version is verified to fix the issue previously
seen with the projection specification.  Also, using "--maxdim 4000"
works with no issues.  Only tried one set of 5 images and results were
good with max pts added with good spread.
Stitcher - Stitching a 15,318 x 7,659 pixel equirectangular
projection, fused and blended pano, with "-m 3000" for both enfuse and
enblend - Still stitching, will report back tomorrow.
Fast Preview - Photometrics, Identify, and Show CP verified working.

I will continue checking it tomorrow.  I also plan to test in Chinese
Traditional.

Regards,
Rick

On Oct 26, 3:08 pm, allard <a...@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows based on:
>
> hugin tarball 2009.2 release
> libpano svn 1098 (=beta3 + small changes)
> autopano sift c 2.5.1 final
> enblend binaries from hugin 0.7 release
>
> You can download it athttp://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin_2009_02_installer_w32_...
>
> Even though this is based on what should be stable releases I call
> this RC1 for this installer package, not in the least because I've had
> very little time for testing. Haven't yet gotten around to making the
> 'no control point generator' version but that should be
> straightforward. I won't have any time for modifications this week
> either, but please test and report problems to the list. If nobody
> finds problems, any of the developers with sufficient permission
> should feel free to upload this file to Sourceforge.
>
> allard

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[Lajos Höss]

Hi Yuw,

Thanks, the problem solved. Sorry, my test operating system is Linux. I upload the correct po file to patches tracker. Now i use short message. Now works with 800x600 pixel desktop or better. This update important to 2009.2.0 and 2009.4.0 too for Windows. Fast preview windows very useful.

Changes:

Num. Transf. -> "Sz. Transzf."
Show control points  -> "K. p. mutat"

Lajos Höss



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[RueiKe]

Hi Allard,

I have finished testing.  The 15,318 x 7,659 pixel equirectangular
projection I started stitching last night completed with no problems.
Today, I ran through the a similar set of tests using the Traditional
Chinese UI and had no issues, but I noticed there were still
untranslated strings.  I think Yuv made the changes that impact this
in 2009.04.  I just stitched an 8k by 8k stereographic projection with
no problems.  The build looks good to me.  Let me know if there is
anything else that I could check out.

Regards,
Rick

On Oct 26, 10:02 pm, RueiKe <ruei...@...> wrote:

> Hi Allard,
>
> I had limited time this evening for testing, but I hope run through
> more tomorrow.   So far it looks good!
>
> Platform: Vista 64bit, using English interface for Hugin, Hugin
> installed over 0.8.0.
>
> Project: 155 image 360x180 with 5 shot 1EV step brackets aligned with
> ~17k alignment points.  Previously completed this project with Ryan's
> 64bit build of 0.8.0
>
> Observations:
> Align - Works with no issues
> Optimiser - Optimize Everything works with no issues
> Exposure - Optimize low dynamic range with 1000pts per image work with
> no issues
> Autopano-SIFT-C - This version is verified to fix the issue previously
> seen with the projection specification.  Also, using "--maxdim 4000"
> works with no issues.  Only tried one set of 5 images and results were
> good with max pts added with good spread.
> Stitcher - Stitching a 15,318 x 7,659 pixel equirectangular
> projection, fused and blended pano, with "-m 3000" for both enfuse and
> enblend - Still stitching, will report back tomorrow.
> Fast Preview - Photometrics, Identify, and Show CP verified working.
>
> I will continue checking it tomorrow.  I also plan to test in Chinese
> Traditional.
>
> Regards,
> Rick
>
> On Oct 26, 3:08 pm, allard <a...@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows based on:
>
> > hugin tarball 2009.2 release
> > libpano svn 1098 (=beta3 + small changes)
> > autopano sift c 2.5.1 final
> > enblend binaries from hugin 0.7 release
>
> > You can download it athttp://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin_2009_02_installer_w32_...
>
> > Even though this is based on what should be stable releases I call
> > this RC1 for this installer package, not in the least because I've had
> > very little time for testing. Haven't yet gotten around to making the
> > 'no control point generator' version but that should be
> > straightforward. I won't have any time for modifications this week
> > either, but please test and report problems to the list. If nobody
> > finds problems, any of the developers with sufficient permission
> > should feel free to upload this file to Sourceforge.
>
> > allard- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[J. Schneider-2]

Hi Allard,
it might be installer specific or as well an addition to the CP gen.
interface thread below:
My installation of the package (clean slate, set default settings, all
cp-generators selected) can run only aps-c. Autopano is not found (when
I copy it into bin\ it works) and Panomatic and Match-n-shift give
"Could not execute command: panomatic.exe -o d:\tmp\ap_D.tmp "D:\use
rs\...<path to images without spaces> ..."

Log:
21:38:45: Execution of command '"panomatic.exe" -o d:\tmp\ap_11.tmp
"D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8701.JPG" "D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8702.JPG"
"D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8703.JPG" "D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8704.JPG"' failed (error
2: das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.)
21:38:45: Execution of '"panomatic.exe" -o d:\tmp\ap_11.tmp
"D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8701.JPG" "D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8702.JPG"
"D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8703.JPG" "D:\tmp\2009-10-21-8704.JPG"' failed.
(Translation of error 2: The system can't find the specified file.)

Apart from that the version works properly. Thanks!
regards
Joachim

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[Rotareneg]

Seems to be working fine here with XP Home SP3.

However, I did find a somewhat obscure UI problem that causes a crash:
Load an image, go to the crop tab and select the image. Then select
New in the File menu. The image remains in the crop window even if you
switch tabs, and it'll even let you try to set the cropping which
causes it to crash.



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[Yuval Levy-6]

Thanks for testing!

Rotareneg wrote:
> However, I did find a somewhat obscure UI problem that causes a crash:
> Load an image, go to the crop tab and select the image. Then select
> New in the File menu. The image remains in the crop window even if you
> switch tabs, and it'll even let you try to set the cropping which
> causes it to crash.

i quickly verified on Linux using the most recent trunk (and also
2009.4). it is repeatable. Please file a bug report. i'm currently
running after deadlines and will likely have time only on the weekend.

it looks like the crop tab does not close clean.

for 2009.2 windows it means that it will be released as-is, unless the
bug is important enough for somebody to back-port the fix (once there is
a fix) and release 2009.2.1

Yuv

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[grow]

I haven't been systematic about exploring this   - but I have always
(well back to version  0.7) found the Crop tab to be fragile.
My general practice now is to save any project before opening the Crop
tab because I have occasionally experienced Hugin just completely
crashing.

This is on  the Mac OSX platform.

As I said, I haven't been systematic about it ... but it has something
to do with making selections of images.   Usually it happens when I am
under pressure to get something finished so I generally haven't had
time to explore.   I will try to make time for a few experiments
soon.

all the best

George

On 28 Oct, 04:49, Yuval Levy <goo...@...> wrote:

> Thanks for testing!
>
> Rotareneg wrote:
> > However, I did find a somewhat obscure UI problem that causes a crash:
> > Load an image, go to the crop tab and select the image. Then select
> > New in the File menu. The image remains in the crop window even if you
> > switch tabs, and it'll even let you try to set the cropping which
> > causes it to crash.
>
> i quickly verified on Linux using the most recent trunk (and also
> 2009.4). it is repeatable. Please file a bug report. i'm currently
> running after deadlines and will likely have time only on the weekend.
>
> it looks like the crop tab does not close clean.
>
> for 2009.2 windows it means that it will be released as-is, unless the
> bug is important enough for somebody to back-port the fix (once there is
> a fix) and release 2009.2.1
>
> Yuv

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[namklim]

On Oct 26, 8:08 am, allard <a...@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows

When I try to stitch with Stitch Now I get the error
make: *** No rule to make target `F:\Documents and Settings\me\My
Documents\My Pictures\2009\10\2009-10-27\', needed by
`test1_exposure_layers_0000.tif'.  Stop.

However when I Save Project and Send to Batch it stitches without
problems.
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[namklim]

On Oct 26, 8:08 am, allard <a...@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows

When I try to stitch with Stitch Now I get the error
make: *** No rule to make target `F:\Documents and Settings\me\My
Documents\My Pictures\2009\10\2009-10-27\', needed by
`test1_exposure_layers_0000.tif'.  Stop.

However when I Save Project and Send to Batch it stitches without
problems.
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[Carl von Einem-2]

George,

this also happens on my G5 / Mac OS X 10.4.11 when I follow your
description. hugin just dies without an error message. Nasty bug.

As a suggestion this is what I do:
Usually crop values don't vary too much for each lens/camera
combination. So instead of always creating an almost same crop for new
projects I saved these values using the 'Save lens...' button in the
'Camera and Lens' tab.
After adding images to a new project I select one image in the 'Camera
and Lens' tab and load that lens description .ini file. That also sets
the crop for all images in the project that use this lens description.
I think that's a real time saver...

Carl



grow schrieb am 28.10.2009 12:10 Uhr:

> I haven't been systematic about exploring this   - but I have always
> (well back to version  0.7) found the Crop tab to be fragile.
> My general practice now is to save any project before opening the Crop
> tab because I have occasionally experienced Hugin just completely
> crashing.
> This is on the Mac OSX platform.
>
> As I said, I haven't been systematic about it ... but it has something
> to do with making selections of images.   Usually it happens when I am
> under pressure to get something finished so I generally haven't had
> time to explore.

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Hallo Joachim,

J. Schneider wrote:
> cp-generators selected) can run only aps-c. Autopano is not found (when
> I copy it into bin\ it works) and Panomatic and Match-n-shift give
> "Could not execute command: panomatic.exe -o d:\tmp\ap_D.tmp "D:\use
> rs\...<path to images without spaces> ..."

2009.2 comes with control point creator presets [0] for the most popular
CP generators known, but these generators are not part of the official
Hugin tarball distribution.

I don't know if Allard did put any or all of them in his Windows binary
installer, and if he did whether he did put them in the place expected
by the template.

The solution for Windows IMO should be the same as Harry's bundle for OSX.

Yuv

[0] http://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/2009.2.0/en.shtml


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[Yuval Levy-6]

namklim wrote:
> On Oct 26, 8:08 am, allard <a...@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I made an installer package for Hugin on 32-bit windows
>
> When I try to stitch with Stitch Now I get the error
> make: *** No rule to make target `F:\Documents and Settings\me\My
> Documents\My Pictures\2009\10\2009-10-27\', needed by
> `test1_exposure_layers_0000.tif'.  Stop.

is it possible that you entered an empty string when asked for the
output prefix?

Yuv

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[J. Schneider-2]

Hallo Yuval,
> 2009.2 comes with control point creator presets [0] for the most popular
> CP generators known, but these generators are not part of the official
> Hugin tarball distribution.

> I don't know if Allard did put any or all of them in his Windows binary
> installer, and if he did whether he did put them in the place expected
> by the template.

The presets are present, correctly as listed in the posting "Control
point generator incantations" by Bruno from 07. September. But the
executables are not! (at least not in bin\, but where else should they
be.) I hadn't considered this simple possibility.

Living outside the USA I never spent much thought about how a bundle
without certain cp generators should work. But now it occurs to me that
either
1. the GUI should reflect the presence of cp generators in the choice
displayed or
2. when selecting a cp generator that is not installed, the user should
get a meaningful error message: "This tool is not installed" or
something the like.
I guess the second is easier to implement.

regards
Joachim


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[grow]

Carl,
Thanks that sounds like a good idea!

all the best

George

On 28 Oct, 12:06, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:

> George,
>
> this also happens on my G5 / Mac OS X 10.4.11 when I follow your
> description. hugin just dies without an error message. Nasty bug.
>
> As a suggestion this is what I do:
> Usually crop values don't vary too much for each lens/camera
> combination. So instead of always creating an almost same crop for new
> projects I saved these values using the 'Save lens...' button in the
> 'Camera and Lens' tab.
> After adding images to a new project I select one image in the 'Camera
> and Lens' tab and load that lens description .ini file. That also sets
> the crop for all images in the project that use this lens description.
> I think that's a real time saver...
>
> Carl
>
> grow schrieb am 28.10.2009 12:10 Uhr:
>
>
>
> > I haven't been systematic about exploring this   - but I have always
> > (well back to version  0.7) found the Crop tab to be fragile.
> > My general practice now is to save any project before opening the Crop
> > tab because I have occasionally experienced Hugin just completely
> > crashing.
> > This is on the Mac OSX platform.
>
> > As I said, I haven't been systematic about it ... but it has something
> > to do with making selections of images.   Usually it happens when I am
> > under pressure to get something finished so I generally haven't had
> > time to explore.

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Hallo Joachim,

J. Schneider wrote:
> The presets are present, correctly as listed in the posting "Control
> point generator incantations" by Bruno from 07. September. But the
> executables are not!

this is intended behavior - simply because there were no resources to
implement anything more sophisticated and because it is better to
provide examples this way than nothing at all.


> Living outside the USA I never spent much thought about how a bundle
> without certain cp generators should work.

panomatic is protected by a *EUROPEAN* patent. This is not a US-only issue.


> But now it occurs to me that
> either
> 1. the GUI should reflect the presence of cp generators in the choice
> displayed or
> 2. when selecting a cp generator that is not installed, the user should
> get a meaningful error message: "This tool is not installed" or
> something the like.
> I guess the second is easier to implement.

Maybe OSX users want to comment how this works on their machines. IIRC
Ippei implemented a more user friendly plugin system and it would be
good if that could be implemented for other systems as well.

I am not sure which of the two proposed solution is easier to implement.
What error message does the user get now when the cp generator is not
present?

Patches are always welcome. I currently have no bandwidth to take up
this additional task, which honestly is very low priority to me.

Yuv

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[Carl von Einem-2]

Great :-)

I updated <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Crop_tab> accordingly and
rearranged the paragraphs a little bit.

Carl

grow schrieb am 30.10.2009 1:17 Uhr:

>
> Thanks that sounds like a good idea!
>
> On 28 Oct, 12:06, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:
>>
>> As a suggestion this is what I do:
>> Usually crop values don't vary too much for each lens/camera
>> combination. So instead of always creating an almost same crop for new
>> projects I saved these values using the 'Save lens...' button in the
>> 'Camera and Lens' tab.
>> After adding images to a new project I select one image in the 'Camera
>> and Lens' tab and load that lens description .ini file. That also sets
>> the crop for all images in the project that use this lens description.
>> I think that's a real time saver...

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