Windows Admin user running Glom

[David Martin-18]

Hi,

When I run Glom on my Windows machine it falls over totally with an error claiming I am running as root user.  Now I know that it may be a bad thing to run Glom as an Admin user on windows but I would like to be able to force Glom to run anyway, its not at all fun to have to right click and 'Run As' a special Glom user.  I want to use Glom for a club membership database and there is no way that any of the club members using it would be competent to create a new user on their machine just for Glom.

Is there any way to disable this check?

Pretty please.

Cheers,

David

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[Murray Cumming]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 15:39 +1300, David Martin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> When I run Glom on my Windows machine it falls over totally with an
> error claiming I am running as root user.  Now I know that it may be a
> bad thing to run Glom as an Admin user on windows but I would like to
> be able to force Glom to run anyway, its not at all fun to have to
> right click and 'Run As' a special Glom user.  I want to use Glom for
> a club membership database and there is no way that any of the club
> members using it would be competent to create a new user on their
> machine just for Glom.
>
> Is there any way to disable this check?

I don't think that's wise regardless of whether they use Glom. Surely
the PC should be set up for them properly?

The not-as-admin limit actually comes from PostgreSQL which we use. Even
if we wanted to, I don't think it would be easy to get around that. It
seems sensible anyway to prevent admin use for any networked
application.

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[Armin Burgmeier]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 12:24 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 15:39 +1300, David Martin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I run Glom on my Windows machine it falls over totally with an
> > error claiming I am running as root user.  Now I know that it may be a
> > bad thing to run Glom as an Admin user on windows but I would like to
> > be able to force Glom to run anyway, its not at all fun to have to
> > right click and 'Run As' a special Glom user.  I want to use Glom for
> > a club membership database and there is no way that any of the club
> > members using it would be competent to create a new user on their
> > machine just for Glom.
> >
> > Is there any way to disable this check?
>
> I don't think that's wise regardless of whether they use Glom. Surely
> the PC should be set up for them properly?
>
> The not-as-admin limit actually comes from PostgreSQL which we use. Even
> if we wanted to, I don't think it would be easy to get around that. It
> seems sensible anyway to prevent admin use for any networked
> application.

It might make sense to allow running Glom with an admin account when
using SQLite, though. In the database creation dialog, we could replace
the postgresql options with a message that postgresql is only available
when not running as admin.

Armin

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[Murray Cumming]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 21:54 +0100, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> It might make sense to allow running Glom with an admin account when
> using SQLite, though. In the database creation dialog, we could replace
> the postgresql options with a message that postgresql is only available
> when not running as admin.

Yes, unless we ever manage to implement multi-user use over the network
with sqlite.

However, sqlite will simply not be enabled in most builds. It's meant
mostly for embedded use. It won't be an option.

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[Armin Burgmeier]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:57 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 21:54 +0100, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> > It might make sense to allow running Glom with an admin account when
> > using SQLite, though. In the database creation dialog, we could replace
> > the postgresql options with a message that postgresql is only available
> > when not running as admin.
>
> Yes, unless we ever manage to implement multi-user use over the network
> with sqlite.
>
> However, sqlite will simply not be enabled in most builds. It's meant
> mostly for embedded use. It won't be an option.

Do you want the official Windows build to contain SQLite support or not?
If not, then it's probably not worth putting too much effort into
getting it to run properly with admin privileges.

Armin

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[David Martin-18]

Given that Admin privileges is the default on Windows perhaps it would be wise to support that configuration?  I've had to choose another solution because of this limitation.

Cheers,

David

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Armin Burgmeier <armin@...> wrote:

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:57 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 21:54 +0100, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> > It might make sense to allow running Glom with an admin account when
> > using SQLite, though. In the database creation dialog, we could replace
> > the postgresql options with a message that postgresql is only available
> > when not running as admin.
>
> Yes, unless we ever manage to implement multi-user use over the network
> with sqlite.
>
> However, sqlite will simply not be enabled in most builds. It's meant
> mostly for embedded use. It won't be an option.

Do you want the official Windows build to contain SQLite support or not?
If not, then it's probably not worth putting too much effort into
getting it to run properly with admin privileges.

Armin

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[Murray Cumming]

On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 00:05 +0100, Armin Burgmeier wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:57 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 21:54 +0100, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> > > It might make sense to allow running Glom with an admin account when
> > > using SQLite, though. In the database creation dialog, we could replace
> > > the postgresql options with a message that postgresql is only available
> > > when not running as admin.
> >
> > Yes, unless we ever manage to implement multi-user use over the network
> > with sqlite.
> >
> > However, sqlite will simply not be enabled in most builds. It's meant
> > mostly for embedded use. It won't be an option.
>
> Do you want the official Windows build to contain SQLite support or not?

No, I do not.

It would be interesting for you to test it there at least once though,
in case that shows any obvious problems.

> If not, then it's probably not worth putting too much effort into
> getting it to run properly with admin privileges.

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