Windows Vista MCE Remote

[Romont Sylvain]

Hello!
I try to install my remote, it's a Windows Vista MCE Remote, lsusb: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0609:0338 SMK Manufacturing, Inc.
I install the RPM of LIRC, DKMS-LIRC and LIRC-REMOTES but it's not working, when I do IRW I have nothing...
I search in internet but I found almost nothing about this remote...
Please help me to make it working!

Thank you very much!


     

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[Paul Menzel-3]

Dear Romont,


Am Samstag, den 07.11.2009, 12:43 +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:
> I try to install my remote, it's a Windows Vista MCE Remote, lsusb:
> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0609:0338 SMK Manufacturing, Inc.
> I install the RPM of LIRC, DKMS-LIRC and LIRC-REMOTES but it's not
> working, when I do IRW I have nothing...
> I search in internet but I found almost nothing about this remote...
> Please help me to make it working!

I do not know much about LIRC. But could you send some logs for lircd
[1]. How does your configuration file look like?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html (search for log)


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[Romont Sylvain]

Thank you for your answer!

Lircd is working.


My lircd file is:

Customized settings for lirc daemon

# The hardware driver to use, run lircd --driver=? for a list

DRIVER="default"

# Hardware driver module to load
HWMOD="lirc_mceusb"

# The device node that communicates with the IR device.
# if you are using lirc_serial, set DEVICE to /dev/ttyS[0-9]
# where 0-9 is the serial port your IR receiver is plugged

# with devfs enabled
DEVICE=/dev/lirc/0
#DEVICE=/dev/lirc/serial

# without devfs
#DEVICE=/dev/lirc

# Serial port for the receiver (for serial driver)
# COM1 (/dev/ttyS0)
#COM_PORT=/dev/ttyS0
#DRIVER_OPTS="irq=4 io=0x3f8"

# COM2 (/dev/ttyS1)
#COM_PORT=/dev/ttyS1
#DRIVER_OPTS="irq=3 io=0x2f8"

# COM3 (/dev/ttyS2)
#COM_PORT=/dev/ttyS2
#DRIVER_OPTS="irq=4 io=0x3e8

# COM4 (/dev/ttyS3)
#COM_PORT=/dev/ttyS3
#DRIVER_OPTS="irq=3 io=0x2e8"

i don't have any folder (file), LIRC in the dev folder is it normal?


--- En date de : Sam 7.11.09, Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...> a écrit :

> De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> À: lirc-list@...
> Date: Samedi 7 Novembre 2009, 14h55
> Dear Romont,
>
>
> Am Samstag, den 07.11.2009, 12:43 +0000 schrieb Romont
> Sylvain:
> > I try to install my remote, it's a Windows Vista MCE
> Remote, lsusb:
> > Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0609:0338 SMK Manufacturing,
> Inc.
> > I install the RPM of LIRC, DKMS-LIRC and LIRC-REMOTES
> but it's not
> > working, when I do IRW I have nothing...
> > I search in internet but I found almost nothing about
> this remote...
> > Please help me to make it working!
>
> I do not know much about LIRC. But could you send some logs
> for lircd
> [1]. How does your configuration file look like?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
> [1] http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html
> (search for log)
>
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[Mark J. Small]

> --- En date de : Sam 7.11.09, Paul Menzel
<paulepanter@...> a écrit :

> > De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> > Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> > À: lirc-list@...
> > Date: Samedi 7 Novembre 2009, 14h55
> > Dear Romont,
> >
> >
> > Am Samstag, den 07.11.2009, 12:43 +0000 schrieb Romont
> >
> > Sylvain:
> > > I try to install my remote, it's a Windows Vista MCE
> >
> > Remote, lsusb:
> > > Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0609:0338 SMK Manufacturing,
> >
> > Inc.
> >
> > > I install the RPM of LIRC, DKMS-LIRC and LIRC-REMOTES
> >
> > but it's not
> >
> > > working, when I do IRW I have nothing...
> > > I search in internet but I found almost nothing about
> >
> > this remote...
> >
> > > Please help me to make it working!
> >
> > I do not know much about LIRC. But could you send some logs
> > for lircd
> > [1]. How does your configuration file look like?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html
> > (search for log)
> >
> > -----La pièce jointe associée suit-----
> >

Hi there,

a lot of "MCE Remotes" actually show up as USB HID devices and don't work with
the lirc mce drivers.  They appear to the computer as a new USB keyboard
and/or mouse.  I'm pretty sure that the remote codes are processed directly by
the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to the computer.  I vaguely
remember seeing hackish ways to use them with lirc, but I never got it
working.

This can be good or bad.  You don't need lirc for them, which can make life
easier for some folks.  But there is very little flexibility in your setup.  
You can't use any other remote with the receiver because everything seems to
be hard coded.  It makes it hard to do custom configs to get everything set up
just right.

I much prefer the lirc route for my setups, and have stuck with using devices
that work with lirc properly.  

I don't know if your remote is one if these HID devices, but it wouldn't
surprise me.  What does dmesg look like after you plug in your receiver?  

Mark

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[Romont Sylvain]

I don't think it's one like you said, I saw somebody said he used this remote with lirc!

with dmesg I have:
usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0609, idProduct=0338
usb 5-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 5-2: Product: MCE RECEIVER Emulator Device 2006
usb 5-2: Manufacturer: SMK CORPORATION
usb 5-2: SerialNumber: TA090114093949D
usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice


Thank you very much for your help!

--- En date de : Sam 7.11.09, Mark J. Small <msmall@...> a écrit :

> De: Mark J. Small <msmall@...>
> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> À: lirc-list@...
> Date: Samedi 7 Novembre 2009, 16h05
>
>
>
> > --- En date de : Sam 7.11.09, Paul Menzel
> <paulepanter@...>
> a écrit :
> > > De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> > > Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> > > À: lirc-list@...
> > > Date: Samedi 7 Novembre 2009, 14h55
> > > Dear Romont,
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Samstag, den 07.11.2009, 12:43 +0000 schrieb
> Romont
> > >
> > > Sylvain:
> > > > I try to install my remote, it's a Windows
> Vista MCE
> > >
> > > Remote, lsusb:
> > > > Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0609:0338 SMK
> Manufacturing,
> > >
> > > Inc.
> > >
> > > > I install the RPM of LIRC, DKMS-LIRC and
> LIRC-REMOTES
> > >
> > > but it's not
> > >
> > > > working, when I do IRW I have nothing...
> > > > I search in internet but I found almost
> nothing about
> > >
> > > this remote...
> > >
> > > > Please help me to make it working!
> > >
> > > I do not know much about LIRC. But could you send
> some logs
> > > for lircd
> > > [1]. How does your configuration file look like?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html
> > > (search for log)
> > >
> > > -----La pièce jointe associée suit-----
> > >
>
> Hi there,
>
> a lot of "MCE Remotes" actually show up as USB HID devices
> and don't work with
> the lirc mce drivers.  They appear to the computer as
> a new USB keyboard
> and/or mouse.  I'm pretty sure that the remote codes
> are processed directly by
> the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to the
> computer.  I vaguely
> remember seeing hackish ways to use them with lirc, but I
> never got it
> working.
>
> This can be good or bad.  You don't need lirc for
> them, which can make life
> easier for some folks.  But there is very little
> flexibility in your setup. 
> You can't use any other remote with the receiver because
> everything seems to
> be hard coded.  It makes it hard to do custom configs
> to get everything set up
> just right.
>
> I much prefer the lirc route for my setups, and have stuck
> with using devices
> that work with lirc properly. 
>
> I don't know if your remote is one if these HID devices,
> but it wouldn't
> surprise me.  What does dmesg look like after you plug
> in your receiver? 
>
> Mark
>
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[Christoph Bartelmus]

Hi!

Romont Sylvain "psgman24@..." wrote:

> I don't think it's one like you said, I saw somebody said he used this
> remote with lirc!

Pointers?

> with dmesg I have:
> usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
> usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0609, idProduct=0338

This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can try adding it in the  
source and try if it works with this module.

Christoph



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[Romont Sylvain]

> > I don't think it's one like you said, I saw somebody
> said he used this
> > remote with lirc!
>
> Pointers?

I mean, the remote codes are processed directly by
the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to the computer.

> This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can try
> adding it in the  
> source and try if it works with this module.

How can I do this?

Thanks for your help!


--- En date de : Dim 8.11.09, Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@...> a écrit :

> De: Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@...>
> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> À: lirc-list@...
> Date: Dimanche 8 Novembre 2009, 13h17
> Hi!
>
> Romont Sylvain "psgman24@..."
> wrote:
>
> > I don't think it's one like you said, I saw somebody
> said he used this
> > remote with lirc!
>
> Pointers?
>
> > with dmesg I have:
> > usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and
> address 3
> > usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0609,
> idProduct=0338
>
> This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can try
> adding it in the 
> source and try if it works with this module.
>
> Christoph
>
>
>
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[Paul Menzel-3]

Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2009, 12:38 +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:

> > > I don't think it's one like you said, I saw somebody
> > said he used this remote with lirc!
> >
> > Pointers?
>
> I mean, the remote codes are processed directly by
> the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to the computer.
>
> > This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can try
> > adding it in the  
> > source and try if it works with this module.
>
> How can I do this?

Search for »lirc_mceusb« and find for example [1]?

You have to edit lirc_mceusb.c [2][3] and compile LIRC it afterwards.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-December/064767.html
[2] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/
[3] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/lirc_mceusb.c?revision=1.48&view=markup


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[Romont Sylvain]

I did like you said me, just after the install it was working,
I did lircd command and irw command and I had lines when I pushed buttons,
but since I rebooted it's not working anymore...
I do lircd command and irw and I have nothing...
I searched in google why but I didn't find...

Please help me!

--- En date de : Dim 8.11.09, Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...> a écrit :

> De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> À: lirc-list@...
> Date: Dimanche 8 Novembre 2009, 14h23
> Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2009, 12:38
> +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:
> > > > I don't think it's one like you said, I saw
> somebody
> > > said he used this remote with lirc!
> > >
> > > Pointers?
> >
> > I mean, the remote codes are processed directly by
> > the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to
> the computer.
> >
> > > This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can
> try
> > > adding it in the 
> > > source and try if it works with this module.
> >
> > How can I do this?
>
> Search for »lirc_mceusb« and find for example [1]?
>
> You have to edit lirc_mceusb.c [2][3] and compile LIRC it
> afterwards.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
> [1] http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-December/064767.html
> [2] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/
> [3] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/lirc_mceusb.c?revision=1.48&view=markup
>
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[Jarod Wilson]

On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Romont Sylvain wrote:

> I did like you said me, just after the install it was working,
> I did lircd command and irw command and I had lines when I pushed  
> buttons,
> but since I rebooted it's not working anymore...
> I do lircd command and irw and I have nothing...
> I searched in google why but I didn't find...

Sounds like you either booted into a newer kernel or you loaded the  
module by hand w/o installing it in your kernel module tree, and thus  
it didn't auto-load on reboot.

fwiw, I've added your device ID to lirc_mceusb.c in lirc cvs, since  
you had it working (and judging by the device ID, it is just another  
variant of the SMK eHome IR transceiver).

> --- En date de : Dim 8.11.09, Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...
> > a écrit :
>
>> De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
>> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
>> À: lirc-list@...
>> Date: Dimanche 8 Novembre 2009, 14h23
>> Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2009, 12:38
>> +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:
>>>>> I don't think it's one like you said, I saw
>> somebody
>>>> said he used this remote with lirc!
>>>>
>>>> Pointers?
>>>
>>> I mean, the remote codes are processed directly by
>>> the receiver end and sent directly as keypresses to
>> the computer.
>>>
>>>> This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb. You can
>> try
>>>> adding it in the
>>>> source and try if it works with this module.
>>>
>>> How can I do this?
>>
>> Search for »lirc_mceusb« and find for example [1]?
>>
>> You have to edit lirc_mceusb.c [2][3] and compile LIRC it
>> afterwards.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-December/064767.html
>> [2] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/
>> [3] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/lirc_mceusb.c?revision=1.48&view=markup

--
Jarod Wilson
jarod@...




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[Romont Sylvain]

I still search about resolve my problem... and I can't find...

I found only, if I do again ./configure.sh , make and make install it's working again after (IRW working) but if I reboot and I do lircd for run lircd , IRW is not working (if I do modprobe lirc_mceusb it's not working too...)
'hen I reboot, a configuration's file is changing, no?


--- En date de : Ven 13.11.09, Jarod Wilson <jarod@...> a écrit :

> De: Jarod Wilson <jarod@...>
> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> À: "Romont Sylvain" <psgman24@...>
> Cc: "lirc" <lirc-list@...>
> Date: Vendredi 13 Novembre 2009, 19h49
> On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Romont
> Sylvain wrote:
>
> > I did like you said me, just after the install it was
> working,
> > I did lircd command and irw command and I had lines
> when I pushed buttons,
> > but since I rebooted it's not working anymore...
> > I do lircd command and irw and I have nothing...
> > I searched in google why but I didn't find...
>
> Sounds like you either booted into a newer kernel or you
> loaded the module by hand w/o installing it in your kernel
> module tree, and thus it didn't auto-load on reboot.
>
> fwiw, I've added your device ID to lirc_mceusb.c in lirc
> cvs, since you had it working (and judging by the device ID,
> it is just another variant of the SMK eHome IR
> transceiver).
>
>
> > --- En date de : Dim 8.11.09, Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> a écrit :
> >
> >> De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> >> Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> >> À: lirc-list@...
> >> Date: Dimanche 8 Novembre 2009, 14h23
> >> Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2009, 12:38
> >> +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:
> >>>>> I don't think it's one like you said,
> I saw
> >> somebody
> >>>> said he used this remote with lirc!
> >>>>
> >>>> Pointers?
> >>>
> >>> I mean, the remote codes are processed
> directly by
> >>> the receiver end and sent directly as
> keypresses to
> >> the computer.
> >>>
> >>>> This USB ID is not listed in lirc_mceusb.
> You can
> >> try
> >>>> adding it in the
> >>>> source and try if it works with this
> module.
> >>>
> >>> How can I do this?
> >>
> >> Search for »lirc_mceusb« and find for example
> [1]?
> >>
> >> You have to edit lirc_mceusb.c [2][3] and compile
> LIRC it
> >> afterwards.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-December/064767.html
> >> [2] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/
> >> [3] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_mceusb/lirc_mceusb.c?revision=1.48&view=markup
>
>
>
> --Jarod Wilson
> jarod@...
>
>
>
>

     

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[Paul Menzel-3]

[Please adhere to the netiquette and do not top post.]


Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 13:11 +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:

[…]

> I found only, if I do again ./configure.sh , make and make install
> it's working again after (IRW working) but if I reboot and I do lircd
> for run lircd , IRW is not working (if I do modprobe lirc_mceusb it's
> not working too...)
> 'hen I reboot, a configuration's file is changing, no?

Maybe you can compare `lsmod` and `dmesg` or `/var/log/syslog/` after
`make install` and after `reboot`.


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[Paul Menzel-3]

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Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 15:09 +0000 schrieb Romont Sylvain:

> --- En date de : Sam 14.11.09, Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...> a écrit :
>
> > De: Paul Menzel <paulepanter@...>
> > Objet: Re: Windows Vista MCE Remote
> > À: lirc-list@...
> > Date: Samedi 14 Novembre 2009, 15h55
> > [Please adhere to the netiquette and
> > do not top post.]
> >
> >
> > Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 13:11 +0000 schrieb Romont
> > Sylvain:
> >
> > […]
> >
> > > I found only, if I do again ./configure.sh , make and
> > make install
> > > it's working again after (IRW working) but if I reboot
> > and I do lircd
> > > for run lircd , IRW is not working (if I do modprobe
> > lirc_mceusb it's
> > > not working too...)
> > > 'hen I reboot, a configuration's file is changing,
> > no?
> >
> > Maybe you can compare `lsmod` and `dmesg` or
> > `/var/log/syslog/` after
> > `make install` and after `reboot`.
>
> I don't stop to search since 2hours and I found this,
> when I do lircd --device /dev/lirc/0 in root, IRW is working after.
> but lircd alone is not working!
> it's mean Lircd can't find alone /dev/lirc/0 , so I have to find how to run automatically lircd --device /dev/lirc/0

Sorry, I do not know what is causing this. Hopefully someone else knows
the answer


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