Wine or Fedora display problem?

[Beartooth Comcast]

        I'm running Garmin Mapsource in Wine under F11.

        When I clicked on Help and told it to check for updates, it did
downloads of 6.15.6.0 for about a minute, then popped up another window
telling me to click on an Install button -- but Wine or Fedora 11 or
something fails to display the button, and hitting Enter instead doesn't
work either.

 rpm -q wine
wine-1.1.29-1.fc11.i586
       
        I closed the app, did a Wine boot, and tried again. This time it
popped up a different message, saying there was trouble accessing the
downloaded files.

        I closed the app again, and did another Wine boot. It did the
download over -- and then got the other error again.

        This has happened three or four times in a row, each, with
MetroGuideUSA and with Topo2008 in the display. I posted the problem to
the Wine list, and got no replies. I tried on alt.satellite.gps.garmin,
and got none there either. Maybe it's a Fedora problem???

        Is there a fix?

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[Ed Greshko]

Beartooth wrote:

> I'm running Garmin Mapsource in Wine under F11.
>
> When I clicked on Help and told it to check for updates, it did
> downloads of 6.15.6.0 for about a minute, then popped up another window
> telling me to click on an Install button -- but Wine or Fedora 11 or
> something fails to display the button, and hitting Enter instead doesn't
> work either.
>
>  rpm -q wine
> wine-1.1.29-1.fc11.i586
>
> I closed the app, did a Wine boot, and tried again. This time it
> popped up a different message, saying there was trouble accessing the
> downloaded files.
>
> I closed the app again, and did another Wine boot. It did the
> download over -- and then got the other error again.
>
> This has happened three or four times in a row, each, with
> MetroGuideUSA and with Topo2008 in the display. I posted the problem to
> the Wine list, and got no replies. I tried on alt.satellite.gps.garmin,
> and got none there either. Maybe it's a Fedora problem???
>
> Is there a fix?
>
>  

I was going to download and test....but saw this...

WARNING: This software will not work unless you already own a MapSource
product.

And I don't own any MapSource products.

Is every Windows app known to work with wine?

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[Tom Horsley-3]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:30:34 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:

> Is every Windows app known to work with wine?

Every app I've ever tried has NOT worked. I often
wonder what I'm doing wrong. One thing I see
a lot is that using the scrollbar appears to
run the scrolled contents through a shredder.
Dragging things leaves a wake in whatever I
dragged over. In no time flat, windows are
rendered unreadable.

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[Ed Greshko]

Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:30:34 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>  
>> Is every Windows app known to work with wine?
>>    
>
> Every app I've ever tried has NOT worked. I often
> wonder what I'm doing wrong. One thing I see
> a lot is that using the scrollbar appears to
> run the scrolled contents through a shredder.
> Dragging things leaves a wake in whatever I
> dragged over. In no time flat, windows are
> rendered unreadable.
>
>  

That was my point.  I've had success with many simple apps under wine.

A few more "complex" ones.  Overall I would say mixed results.  So, I'm
not sure I'd expect something like Garmin MapSource to run....and I'm
not sure I'd expect many folks to have tried it.  I did go over the
"CrossOver" web site and noted they don't have that listed in their
compatibility grid.  FWIW, I wouldn't even pose the question "Fedora
problem?" in the same breath with trying something under wine.  :-) :-).



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[Beartooth Comcast]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:58:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> That was my point.  I've had success with many simple apps under wine. A
> few more "complex" ones.  Overall I would say mixed results.  So, I'm
> not sure I'd expect something like Garmin MapSource to run....and I'm
> not sure I'd expect many folks to have tried it.  I did go over the
> "CrossOver" web site and noted they don't have that listed in their
> compatibility grid.  FWIW, I wouldn't even pose the question "Fedora
> problem?" in the same breath with trying something under wine.  :-) :-).

        I wouldn't -- but that there are a couple things you don't know,
or don't appear to.

        Fwiw, I've been trying to get this specific app and three others
(from DeLorme, Maptech, and topo.com) usable under Wine a/o CXO since
1998, including a lot of hard work every two or three years with the help
of several lists where much savvier people interested -- on usenet, on
Gmane, and on grc.com.

        Meanwhile, of course, Wine has grown and developed mightily --
though anything using a serial port, as my Garmin GPSs all do, has always
lagged behind.

        Just this year (at last, at long last!) all of the following have
become possible with Garmin and Maptech suites under plain Wine : they
install, they run, and on some machines (four different PCs, but neither
of two thinkpads -- T30 and T42) they talk to my GPSs.

        I can transfer tracks, routes, waypoints, and (with GPSs that can
take them) maps to and from the PCs.

        IOW, at last, Garmin's MapSource suite can now do anything in
Wine under F11 that it can do under XP, except *only* for the updating.

        Seems to me I have some reason to hope one of you Alpha Plus
Technoids (APTs) might just possibly have already made that work, too.

        Note also that I did first try the other APTs on lists for Wine,
for GPSs, and for Garmin specifically.

        If not you, who? If not now, when?

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[Tom "spot" Callaway]

On 11/09/2009 03:15 AM, Beartooth wrote:
> Meanwhile, of course, Wine has grown and developed mightily --
> though anything using a serial port, as my Garmin GPSs all do, has always
> lagged behind.

FWIW, newer Garmin GPS units don't use a serial port anymore, they act
like USB Mass Storage Devices, with a special folder layout. It actually
makes it a lot easier to use it under Linux.

~spot, who is pretty happy with his Oregon 400T

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[Beartooth Comcast]

On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:24 +1000, Tom \"spot\" Callaway wrote:
        [....]
> FWIW, newer Garmin GPS units don't use a serial port anymore, they act
> like USB Mass Storage Devices, with a special folder layout.

        Yes, since you mention it, I had noticed that -- been waiting for
it, in fact.

> It actually makes it a lot easier to use it under Linux.

        Such was of course my hope -- thanks for the confirmation!

> ~spot, who is pretty happy with his Oregon 400T

        I've been chewing on a choice between the etrex vista HCx and the
GPSMAP® 60CSx; but I'd prefer to be able to keep the choice of the old
vista etrex (on the road, where it can usually see clear sky) and the
rino 120 (which does much better under Eastern forest canopies, and also
gets longer battery life).

        Are you able to run MapSource in Wine and get it to do updates??

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