Woodstock update

[John Jullion-Ceccarelli]

Hi folks,

As many of you have already seen or heard, Sun Microsystems is officially stopping all new feature development on Woodstock components. The Woodstock release 4.2 is the last official version of Woodstock that Sun will release.

This decision wasn't easy and we know it won't be very popular. But in the current environment, every business has had to make some hard choices and this was one of those for Sun.

So what do you do if you've invested in Woodstock? First of all, Sun will continue to support its customers that have built on top of Woodstock 4.2. The Project Woodstock code is available on java.net (http://woodstock.dev.java.net) and community members can create new features or enhancements. Sun will assist with a community development effort behind Project Woodstock - the first step will be doing a transfer of information to help people get started (more to come on this soon).

In addition to this, We are researching solutions that will allow users currently invested in Woodstock to migrate their applications while leveraging the latest advances in web UI technology. We remain committed to improving the web developer experience, and plan to prove this with upcoming releases of JSF, GlassFish and NetBeans.

Thank you for your support and feel free to ask any questions. We'll do our best to answer (even if the answer is "we don't know yet").

John Jullion-Ceccarelli
Senior Manager, NetBeans Web Tier Engineering

[FkJ]

Hi,

I'd like to know what do you have in mind for future versions of Visual Web Pack. Is it going to support other component libraries?

Thanks,
Felipe

2008/11/4 John Jullion-Ceccarelli <John.Jullion-Ceccarelli@...>

Hi folks,

As many of you have already seen or heard, Sun Microsystems is officially
stopping all new feature development on Woodstock components. The Woodstock
release 4.2 is the last official version of Woodstock that Sun will release.

This decision wasn't easy and we know it won't be very popular. But in the
current environment, every business has had to make some hard choices and
this was one of those for Sun.

So what do you do if you've invested in Woodstock? First of all, Sun will
continue to support its customers that have built on top of Woodstock 4.2.
The Project Woodstock code is available on java.net
(http://woodstock.dev.java.net) and community members can create new
features or enhancements. Sun will assist with a community development
effort behind Project Woodstock - the first step will be doing a transfer of
information to help people get started (more to come on this soon).

In addition to this, We are researching solutions that will allow users
currently invested in Woodstock to migrate their applications while
leveraging the latest advances in web UI technology. We remain committed to
improving the web developer experience, and plan to prove this with upcoming
releases of JSF, GlassFish and NetBeans.

Thank you for your support and feel free to ask any questions. We'll do our
best to answer (even if the answer is "we don't know yet").

John Jullion-Ceccarelli
Senior Manager, NetBeans Web Tier Engineering


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[Jaider Fernando Rodriguez Lozano]

Buen dia.

Si en verdad Sun decidio no trabajar mas en woodstock porque el netbeasn
lo trae inmerso en su vwp ???  es absurdo

John Jullion-Ceccarelli escribió:

> Hi folks,
>
> As many of you have already seen or heard, Sun Microsystems is officially
> stopping all new feature development on Woodstock components. The Woodstock
> release 4.2 is the last official version of Woodstock that Sun will release.
>
> This decision wasn't easy and we know it won't be very popular. But in the
> current environment, every business has had to make some hard choices and
> this was one of those for Sun.
>
> So what do you do if you've invested in Woodstock? First of all, Sun will
> continue to support its customers that have built on top of Woodstock 4.2.
> The Project Woodstock code is available on java.net
> (http://woodstock.dev.java.net) and community members can create new
> features or enhancements. Sun will assist with a community development
> effort behind Project Woodstock - the first step will be doing a transfer of
> information to help people get started (more to come on this soon).
>
> In addition to this, We are researching solutions that will allow users
> currently invested in Woodstock to migrate their applications while
> leveraging the latest advances in web UI technology. We remain committed to
> improving the web developer experience, and plan to prove this with upcoming
> releases of JSF, GlassFish and NetBeans.
>
> Thank you for your support and feel free to ask any questions. We'll do our
> best to answer (even if the answer is "we don't know yet").
>
> John Jullion-Ceccarelli
> Senior Manager, NetBeans Web Tier Engineering
>
>
>  

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[autozoom]

I think at least Sun now owes us a fast update on what we are going to do with our production deployments based upon Woodstock.
Will there continue to be a visuall web framework for Netbeans? Do we need to switch to Icefaces, Quipukit, Infragistics or some other framework?

We cannot wait another 2 months, really!

Felipe Jaekel (FkJ) wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to know what do you have in mind for future versions of Visual Web
Pack. Is it going to support other component libraries?

Thanks,
Felipe

2008/11/4 John Jullion-Ceccarelli <[e-mail]>

>
> Hi folks,
>
> As many of you have already seen or heard, Sun Microsystems is officially
> stopping all new feature development on Woodstock components. The Woodstock
> release 4.2 is the last official version of Woodstock that Sun will
> release.
>
> This decision wasn't easy and we know it won't be very popular. But in the
> current environment, every business has had to make some hard choices and
> this was one of those for Sun.
>
> So what do you do if you've invested in Woodstock? First of all, Sun will
> continue to support its customers that have built on top of Woodstock 4.2.
> The Project Woodstock code is available on java.net
> (http://woodstock.dev.java.net) and community members can create new
> features or enhancements. Sun will assist with a community development
> effort behind Project Woodstock - the first step will be doing a transfer
> of
> information to help people get started (more to come on this soon).
>
> In addition to this, We are researching solutions that will allow users
> currently invested in Woodstock to migrate their applications while
> leveraging the latest advances in web UI technology. We remain committed to
> improving the web developer experience, and plan to prove this with
> upcoming
> releases of JSF, GlassFish and NetBeans.
>
> Thank you for your support and feel free to ask any questions. We'll do our
> best to answer (even if the answer is "we don't know yet").
>
> John Jullion-Ceccarelli
> Senior Manager, NetBeans Web Tier Engineering
>
>
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> http://www.nabble.com/Woodstock-update-tp20317701p20317701.html
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[Paolo Proni]

Maybe we can give a look at RichFaces by RedHat...
> I think at least Sun now owes us a fast update on what we are going to do
> with our production deployments based upon Woodstock.
> Will there continue to be a visuall web framework for Netbeans? Do we need
> to switch to Icefaces, Quipukit, Infragistics or some other framework?
>
> We cannot wait another 2 months, really!
>
>  



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[autozoom]

yes we can and maybe we'll be forced to, but what about the visual approach to developing web inteface?
It is (was...) the real point of strength of Woodstock components and Netbeans I think

Paolo Proni wrote:

Maybe we can give a look at RichFaces by RedHat...
> I think at least Sun now owes us a fast update on what we are going to do
> with our production deployments based upon Woodstock.
> Will there continue to be a visuall web framework for Netbeans? Do we need
> to switch to Icefaces, Quipukit, Infragistics or some other framework?
>
> We cannot wait another 2 months, really!
>
>  



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[Paolo Proni]

I totally agree with you. In fact now I am evaluating JBoss Developer.

I am converting my existing application to RichFaces, still using
NetBeans, as I am already used to that IDE and changing is not so
inviting, but I have not the visual approach anymore.

Please, Sun, at least let us use RichFaces visually on NetBeans in a
decent way! I tried IceFaces with NetBeans but I did not like how it
worked...
I like(d) NetBeans for the visual support to Woodstock. But that's history.
Paolo
> yes we can and maybe we'll be forced to, but what about the visual approach
> to developing web inteface?
> It is (was...) the real point of strength of Woodstock components and
> Netbeans I think
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[FkJ]

Yeap. RichFaces seems to be the best open source component library. It would be great if NetBeans VWP supports it, and soon...

Eclipse has visual editor puglin for it, I'm not sure if it is open source, bu at least is freeware.

2008/11/6 Paolo Proni <pproni@...>

Maybe we can give a look at RichFaces by RedHat...

I think at least Sun now owes us a fast update on what we are going to do
with our production deployments based upon Woodstock.
Will there continue to be a visuall web framework for Netbeans? Do we need
to switch to Icefaces, Quipukit, Infragistics or some other framework?

We cannot wait another 2 months, really!

 

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[fedevela]

I was glad to learn that there will be an event to state the
relationship between woodstock and netbeans.

NetBeans Technical Call: Web Tier Programming in NetBeans 6.5 and Beyond:
http://netbeans-woodstock-update.eventbrite.com/

Federico Vela

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[Jokers]

I opened an issues on this problems : http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=169820
Please vote for it, if you agree with me!

I was promised that this will be discussed at sun, if there are enough votes!