tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-3877Nabble - Workrave2009-12-04T12:00:01ZWorkrave is a program that assists in the recovery and prevention of Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI). The program frequently alerts you to take micro-pauses, rest breaks and restricts you to your daily limit. Workrave home is <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/workrave/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">here</a>.tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26648364Re: New useful function2009-12-04T12:00:01Z2009-12-04T12:00:01ZRay Satiro<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">You can choose to disable 'suspend timer when inactive'. It might help based on what you describe.<br>right-click workrave icon > preferences > timers > uncheck 'suspend timer when inactive' for each timer<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/2/09, Rafador <i><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26648364&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">rafador@...</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Rafador <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26648364&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">rafador@...</a>><br>Subject: [Workrave-user] New useful function<br>To: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26648364&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">workrave-user@...</a><br>Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 1:43 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Hello,<br>I often read long texts so I don't use mouse and keyboard (only scroll) <br>by long time.<br>It's the reason why I don't take a break however I want to take break to <br>protect my eyes. <br>Can you add function: "Off the natural breaks"?
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<br>I often read long texts so I don't use mouse and keyboard (only scroll)
<br>by long time.
<br>It's the reason why I don't take a break however I want to take break to
<br>protect my eyes.
<br>Can you add function: "Off the natural breaks"?
<br><br>Thanks in advance_
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<br><br>> Hi, I'm not sure, does this quote below mean there was an attachment to my
<br>> email? I don't recall attaching anything.
<br>>
<br>> Any answer to the question? I'd like to set the computer to notify at 10:30pm
<br>> regardless of hours spent on the computer, is this possible?
<br><br>Hi, Lisa,
<br><br>Just make 2 cron jobs, like this:
<br><br> crontab -l > my-cron-jobs
<br> echo '30 22 * * * gconftool-2 --set --type=int /apps/workrave/timers/daily_limit/limit 3600' >> my-cron-jobs
<br> echo '0 6-22 * * * gconftool-2 --set --type=int /apps/workrave/timers/daily_limit/limit 14400' >> my-cron-jobs
<br> crontab my-cron-jobs
<br><br>This will set your daily limit to 1 hour (3600 seconds) at 22:30 each
<br>day. Presuming you have already used the computer more than 1 hour,
<br>the daily limit will be triggered immediately.
<br><br>At 06:00 each day, this will reset your daily limit to 4 hours (14400
<br>seconds). It also does this at 07:00, 08:00, etc., through 22:00;
<br>this is to handle the possibility that your computer happens to be off
<br>at 06:00.
<br><br>This works because gconftool-2 tells the (hopefully already running)
<br>gconfd-2 process about the new setting, and this process in turn
<br>notifies your (presumably already running) Workrave process. This
<br>should also work if neither of these processes are running because the
<br>new setting should be noticed the next time they are running.
<br><br>All of this assumes you have cron installed and running on your Linux
<br>(or other UNIX) computer. For Windows you can no doubt do something
<br>similar with the Windows job scheduling mechanisms, but I do not know
<br>the details so you'll have to figure it out for yourself.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Thanks, Lisa
<br>>
<br>> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:15:49 -0800
<br>> From: Lisa <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26540665&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lisa@...</a>>
<br>> Subject: [Workrave-user] question re: daily limit
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<br>>
<br>> Hi, I have a question about workrave. Is it possible to set the daily
<br>> limit to a particular time of day rather than tracking time spent at the
<br>> computer?
<br>> Thanks, Lisa
</div><br>Ray Satiro <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26540665&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">raysatiro@...</a>> writes:
<br><br>> Sorry, what you ask is currently not possible with Workrave. I will file a
<br>> feature request for you but frankly this is the first time I recall someone
<br>> asking for this feature and it's unlikely to be implemented without a lot more
<br>> support. Happy Thanksgiving
<br><br>It would be lovely if this were directly supported by Workrave instead
<br>of requiring the user to hack around with cron jobs and gconftool.
<br><br>--
<br>With my best regards,
<br><br>Joe
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Hi, I'm not sure, does this quote below mean there was an attachment to
my email? I don't recall attaching anything.<br>
<br>
Any answer to the question? I'd like to set the computer to notify at
10:30pm regardless of hours spent on the computer, is this possible?<br>
<br>
Thanks, Lisa<br>
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Hi, I'm not sure, does this quote below mean there was an attachment to
my email? I don't recall attaching anything.<br>
<br>
Any answer to the question? I'd like to set the computer to notify at
10:30pm regardless of hours spent on the computer, is this possible?<br>
<br>
Thanks, Lisa<br>
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<br>> If you look at my screenshot at
<br>> <a href="http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/noworkrave.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/noworkrave.png</a>, you will see
<br>> workrave is not visible.
<br>It looks like you do not have a notification area. Could you please add
<br>it to your panel? Using Workrave via the notification area is preferred
<br>over using the applet (though I cannot recall why any more).
<br><br>When neither the applet, nor the notification area is used, it should
<br>not be possible to close the small window. I'll try to reproduce this later.
<br><br>> Now that I can open the controls, I am wondering about the network
<br>> settings. I have no idea what they're about. I guess I should go back
<br>> to the web page and see if there's a hint there.
<br>Hmm...
<br>Documentation is sorely lacking. It is one of the most common
<br>complaints. Your best guess is searching the mailing list archives, for
<br>example starting with
<br><a href="http://osdir.com/ml/misc.workrave.user/2008-01/msg00002.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://osdir.com/ml/misc.workrave.user/2008-01/msg00002.html</a><br><br>Groetjes,
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When workrave is running, it sits in the notification area (assuming<br>
you're using Gnome. KDE should have something similar). </blockquote><div><br>I am using gnome.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The notification<br>
area is typically located in the top-right corner of your screen, near<br>
the time/date<br></blockquote><div><br>If you look at my screenshot at <a href="http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/noworkrave.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/noworkrave.png</a>, you will see workrave is not visible.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Please let me know if this was of any help.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>I appreciate your quick response. I tried fiddling with the gnome settings (right click, add to panel) and workrave is on the list as available to add, but has no icon next to it (<a href="http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/panel.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/users/tburns/panel.png</a>). I added it anyhow and now it shows up. No sheep, sometimes a hand, sometimes a coffeecup, sometimes a gray rectangle with a green arrow. Thanks for helping!<br>
<br>Now that I can open the controls, I am wondering about the network settings. I have no idea what they're about. I guess I should go back to the web page and see if there's a hint there.<br><br>mahalo,<br>Dave<br>
<br>p.s.<br>:~$ rpm -q workrave<br>workrave-1.8.5-1.el5.rf<br>:~$ uname -a<br>Linux <a href="http://cod.soest.hawaii.edu" target="_top" rel="nofollow">cod.soest.hawaii.edu</a> 2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 7 10:35:59 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux<br>
:~$ cat /etc/redhat-release <br>CentOS release 5.3 (Final)<br><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Groetjes,<br>
<br>
Kees-Jan<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Dave Burns wrote:<br>
> I installed workrave on my centos (linux) box. I chose workrave from<br>
> the accessories menu and a window popped up. It was too small, so I<br>
> clicked on it in a way I hoped would make it bigger. Either I missed<br>
> and hit close, or I hit the wrong thing. I saw an animation of it<br>
> zooming down to the bottom of the screen as if minimized. But there is<br>
> no icon or window anywhere I can find that will let me open it again.<br>
> So I tried selecting it from the menu again, message is 'could not<br>
> initialize workrave, is workrave already running?' So I opened a<br>
> terminal and killed it brutally. Then selected it from the accessories<br>
> menu again. The display twitched, like it wanted to put another window<br>
> thing on the bottom task bar, or maybe did a really fast animation,<br>
> but I still see no workrave window or icon or anything. I am tempted<br>
> to uninstall and reinstall, see it that helps, or maybe there's some<br>
> config file in my home directory? Hmmm, tried deleting that, no help.<br>
><br>
> Anyone know how to make the window come back?<br>
><br>
> Is there some documentation somewhere I somehow missed? Like something<br>
> that would tell me how to find the window that is lost, how to get to<br>
> the pref panel? I have a feeling that I'd be okay if the README file<br>
> gave a hint what .workrave/state means:<br>
><br>
> cat .workrave/state<br>
> WorkRaveState 2<br>
> 1259025480<br>
> micro_pause 1259025480 146 0 28 0 0 0<br>
> rest_break 1259025480 536 0 0 0 0 0<br>
> daily_limit 1259025480 536 1259024630 0 0 0 0<br>
><br>
><br>
> Oh and 'Excercise' is misspelled on <a href="http://www.workrave.org/features/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.workrave.org/features/</a><br>
><br>
> mahalo,<br>
> Dave<br>
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<br>you're using Gnome. KDE should have something similar). The notification
<br>area is typically located in the top-right corner of your screen, near
<br>the time/date
<br><br>Depending on your workrave configuration, it will either look like an
<br>icon of a sheep, or an icon of a raised hand next to a
<br>progress-bar-with-numbers-in-it thingy.
<br><br>Either way, right click it to open the menu, and choose your favorite
<br>item, for example "open" to get the small window back. (Sorry, it cannot
<br>yet be made bigger)
<br><br>Please let me know if this was of any help.
<br><br>Groetjes,
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<br><br>Dave Burns wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I installed workrave on my centos (linux) box. I chose workrave from
<br>> the accessories menu and a window popped up. It was too small, so I
<br>> clicked on it in a way I hoped would make it bigger. Either I missed
<br>> and hit close, or I hit the wrong thing. I saw an animation of it
<br>> zooming down to the bottom of the screen as if minimized. But there is
<br>> no icon or window anywhere I can find that will let me open it again.
<br>> So I tried selecting it from the menu again, message is 'could not
<br>> initialize workrave, is workrave already running?' So I opened a
<br>> terminal and killed it brutally. Then selected it from the accessories
<br>> menu again. The display twitched, like it wanted to put another window
<br>> thing on the bottom task bar, or maybe did a really fast animation,
<br>> but I still see no workrave window or icon or anything. I am tempted
<br>> to uninstall and reinstall, see it that helps, or maybe there's some
<br>> config file in my home directory? Hmmm, tried deleting that, no help.
<br>>
<br>> Anyone know how to make the window come back?
<br>>
<br>> Is there some documentation somewhere I somehow missed? Like something
<br>> that would tell me how to find the window that is lost, how to get to
<br>> the pref panel? I have a feeling that I'd be okay if the README file
<br>> gave a hint what .workrave/state means:
<br>>
<br>> cat .workrave/state
<br>> WorkRaveState 2
<br>> 1259025480
<br>> micro_pause 1259025480 146 0 28 0 0 0
<br>> rest_break 1259025480 536 0 0 0 0 0
<br>> daily_limit 1259025480 536 1259024630 0 0 0 0
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Oh and 'Excercise' is misspelled on <a href="http://www.workrave.org/features/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.workrave.org/features/</a><br>>
<br>> mahalo,
<br>> Dave
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<br>Anyone know how to make the window come back?<br><br>Is there some documentation somewhere I somehow missed? Like something that would tell me how to find the window that is lost, how to get to the pref panel? I have a feeling that I'd be okay if the README file gave a hint what .workrave/state means:<br>
<br>cat .workrave/state <br>WorkRaveState 2<br>1259025480<br>micro_pause 1259025480 146 0 28 0 0 0<br>rest_break 1259025480 536 0 0 0 0 0<br>daily_limit 1259025480 536 1259024630 0 0 0 0<br><br><br>Oh and 'Excercise' is misspelled on <a href="http://www.workrave.org/features/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.workrave.org/features/</a><br>
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<br><br>After install you have an icon on the desktop. Double click that and then
<br>you'll have a sheep icon in the icon tray next to the system time. Right
<br>click that and open the settings/preferences.
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<br><br>I just installed Workrave. The installation completed without letting me
<br>set my preferences for breaks. How do I now set those preferences? I've
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<br>Paul
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How do I now set those preferences? I’ve tried to search the forum, but keep
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<br> thank you for the information, I will now try some testing.
<br>Regards
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<br><br>Hello,
<br><br>> Hi, Could someone please advise if it is possible to deploy workrave
<br>> silently? In some cases you would use command line switches in other cases
<br>> you record an answer file. Is it possible with workrave?
<br><br>Workrave uses the Inno Setup installer. Inno Setup supports some command line
<br>options to perform unattended setups:
<br><br>/sp- /silent /norestart
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<br><br>> Hi, Could someone please advise if it is possible to deploy workrave
<br>> silently? In some cases you would use command line switches in other cases
<br>> you record an answer file. Is it possible with workrave?
<br><br>Workrave uses the Inno Setup installer. Inno Setup supports some command line
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<br> Could someone please advise if it is possible to deploy workrave silently? In some cases you would use command line switches in other cases you record an answer file. Is it possible with workrave?
<br>Thanks
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<br><br>> > No package 'libpanelapplet-2.0' found
<br>> >
<br>> I tried installing both libpanelapplet and libbonobo, but with no luck.
<br>> How do I configure and make Workrave for KDE?
<br>> Thanks in advance.
<br><br>You need to install the development package of libpanelapplet (called
<br>libpanel-applet2-dev on ubuntu).
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<br><br>> Hi Hugh,
<br>>
<br>> Workrave is a program designed to prevent RSI. It tries to do so by
<br>> periodically popping up windows suggesting the user to take a break. Depending
<br>> on how it is configured, it can become pretty insistent. Some (if not most)
<br><br>Yes, seemed to be every couple of minutes, which is not the
<br>recommendations I'd heard of about RSI. More like quarter of an
<br>hour, but it's not an area I know a lot about.
<br><br>> people are very annoyed by Workrave's continuus popups, leading to elevated
<br>> stress levels, which, eventually, leads to RSI. For them, Workrave is
<br><br>I definitely felt stressed by this, especially as it seemed to be
<br>deliberately preventing use with the magnifier. The only program I
<br>ever heard of before that ran away from the mouse was a tasteless
<br>joke program which presented a dialogue asking if one of your organs
<br>was large, and the "Yes" button would run away from the mouse, so
<br>you could only click "No".
<br><br>I thought someone had finally come up with this program mentioned on
<br>this news parody site
<br><br><a href="http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2008/12/11/microsoft-launches-concentration-breaker-30/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2008/12/11/microsoft-launches-concentration-breaker-30/</a><br><br>:-)
<br><br>> counterproductive.
<br>>
<br>> Hence, I strongly believe that workrave should only be used by people who
<br>> consciously decide they want to. You sound like workrave was forced upon you,
<br>> which is, in my opinion, a bad idea. If support people come over to help me
<br><br>Yes, especially given its lack of accessibility.
<br><br>> with my machine, I make it a point to disable workrave for them before handing
<br>> over mouse and/or keyboard.
<br><br>The user of this machine didn't know it was on there. It only
<br>showed up for a login as Administrator.
<br>>
<br>> Lots of thought has gone into workrave usability already. Overall, we are
<br>> aiming to be as unobtrusive as possible. This is why windows "jump away" when
<br>> you hover the mouse over them: The assumption is that you want to click
<br>> something that is underneath. For the same reason, keyboard shortcuts are
<br><br>Yes, but it can't assume everyone's intention at all times. It
<br>should be possible to do something else, like the break window not
<br>having focus, or the prelude window moving away from the mouse at
<br>half the speed of the mouse so you can push the window around but
<br>catch up with it if you need to. I don't do enough GUI programming
<br>to know about what is possible.
<br>The break window could be other than an all-or-nothing device, I can
<br>imagine it interposing delays to slow down the users interaction
<br>significantly during breaks, so interaction to tell it to go away or
<br>whatever is possible.
<br><br>> disabled on break windows: If a break window pops up while you are typing, you
<br>> do not want your keystrokes to result in buttons being pressed.
<br><br>If it doesn't have focus then that should not happen, I think. I
<br>don't know if windows will let you have a window come up without
<br>focus at all.
<br><br>>
<br>> To make a long story shorter: Although much effort has been invested in
<br>> usability already, though the focus is on "normal" people, and not the
<br>> visually- or otherwise-impaired.
<br><br>It is designed for people with RSI. This is a community with its
<br>own accessibility problems, the need for split keyboards with a
<br>non-rectangular layout, a need for trackballs instead of mice, a
<br>need for speech recognition instead of keyboards, etc.
<br>Accessibility issues, and the fact that they are different for
<br>different people should be fairly high on the list of priorities in
<br>such a context, I would think. However, even RNIB, and RNID tended
<br>to push the needs of deafblind people onto the other organization
<br>(when I last looked), so I am aware of the limitations of
<br>understanding in the disability field. [I compiled the FAQ for the
<br>DEAFBLND list]
<br><br>>
<br>> So far, I don't think I've been much help (thanks for following along till
<br><br>You've given some context.
<br><br>> here). I'm not sure where to go from here. For visually impaired people that
<br>> decide to use workrave, I'm a bit unsure where the major usability issues are.
<br><br>They will differ from person to person, but preventing the use of
<br>magnification software is a serious problem: All magnifiers can only
<br>display part of the screen at a time, and are thus controlled by the
<br>mouse, and text cursor. Having windows avoid the mouse means they
<br>cannot be magnified.
<br><br>> Workrave's popup windows always show the same content, so a regular user will
<br><br>But I can't see what it is, and I can't tell if that same content,
<br>like how long the pre-warning is, can be affected by something I
<br>configure.
<br><br>> not want to read them anyway, just be aware that they are there, so they can
<br>> decide to take a break. To support this mode, there are sound events that
<br>> depend on the popup being shown, so you could know what workrave is doing even
<br>> with your eyes closed. Like I said, I'm not sure where to improve.
<br><br>More choices would be good. Maybe speech alerts using SAPI 4 or
<br>SAPI 5. Some tools just change the colour of the system tray icon.
<br><br>>
<br>> You sound like a user who is confronted with workrave without being familiar
<br>> with it. This is a difficult situation to work from, since it is workrave's
<br><br>This will happen when someone comes to help a user with it on their
<br>machine. When I had LunarPlus someone tried to use my machine, but
<br>couldn't cope with the enlarged screen scrolling about. I didn't
<br>expect them to access the machine when I was not there, or I'd have
<br>turned magnification off.
<br><br>> job to annoy you. I could tell you how to get workrave out of your way (locate
<br><br>If I could have found its name, seeing no controls to stop it, I'd
<br>have used Add/Remove programs to deal with it. Unsubtle but
<br>effective!
<br><br>> the sheep icon in the system tray, right click it, and then choose "Quit" or
<br><br>Didn't know it was there in the system tray, until someone showed me.
<br><br>> "Mode->Suspended"), but I don't know how to improve usability here, without
<br>> making things worse for our regular users.
<br><br>Put the same sheep icon in the popup windows, so people recognize it?
<br>Tell people to look in the system tray?
<br>Making the name of the program more prominent, so information can be
<br>found about it.
<br><br>>
<br>> I absolutely see the problem. It is just that many of the things you mention
<br>> are so by design (except maybe the non-resizable status window and obviously
<br>> the sorely lacking documentation).
<br>>
<br>> Sorry I couldn't be more help. Maybe anyone else has suggestions?
<br><br>It will take some time to figure out a good strategy, because the
<br>need not to be interrupted is in direct conflict with the need to
<br>be interrrupted. :-)
<br>>
<br>> Groetjes,
<br>>
<br>> Kees-Jan
<br>>
<br> Thank you
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<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hi Hugh,
<br>>
<br>> Thanks for your e-mail. Let's start near the bottom.
<br>>
<br>> > I suggest that you think about the issuse in this Scientific American
<br>> > article on Considerate Computing.
<br>> >
<br>> > <a href="http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf</a><br>>
<br>> That was an interesting read, and I tend to agree with it. The user
<br>> should be in control.
<br>>
<br>> Research has shown that taking a break helps preventing RSI. When
<br>> requesting users to take a break, they should normally be balancing
<br>> short time interests (do I want to take a break now) with long term
<br>> interests (do I care about possibly acquiring RSI in the
<br>> future). Research then shows that people tend to overly favor
<br>> short-term interests. They will keep on working regardless of what it
<br>> means for their health. Admittedly, I am one of those people, and I
<br>> have suffered the consequences.
</div><br>I agree with the above....
<br>>
<br>> To help people like that, Workrave is configured by default to take
<br>> control of the system and force you to break. Hence, to allow for at
<br>> least a little bit of "user control", Workrave should not do this
<br>> unless the user has specifically requested it to do so.
<br><br>What happens to someone supporting a machine in which this has been
<br>configured? Sometimes such support takes place in the absence of the
<br>user, for various good reasons. Even Windows allows a screen to be
<br>unlocked by an administrator, in recognition of this reality..
<br>>
<br>> This is why the (main) user of the machine should decide whether or
<br>> not to install and use workrave, and not someone else. I understand
<br>> that your situation is different, but I don't think we are the right
<br>> people to complain to. In my opinion, you should (also) complain to
<br>> the people who installed Workrave, for giving you a machine you have
<br>> less control over than you want to.
<br><br>I will do, but I can't do that until I have something I can offer them,
<br>like assurances that future versions will not be a problem, so they can
<br>afford to wait.
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> > OK. Is it possible to avoid grabbing focus from another app, or to
<br>> > give it back to that app pretty much immediately? That would allow
<br>> > me to click on the window to access its controls if I need to, but
<br>> > not otherwise. This is provided that the window doesn't run away
<br>> > from the mouse.
<br>>
<br>> I'm not sure I fully understand your point. The window that is running
<br>> away (we call it a "break prelude" or a "prelude" window) should not
<br>> grab focus from your app. You should be able to continue to work
<br>> normally. The window will go away after at most 30 seconds. Depending
</div><br>No, I can't work normally if I can't see what is going on. It appears
<br>on top of the magnifier, and I can't see what is in it because it won't
<br>allow me to magnify it. I can't see how to configure how long that
<br>delay is, at the moment, either.
<br><br>> on how Workrave is configured, a break window may pop up. A break
<br>> window may either grab focus and force you to break, or not grab focus
<br>> and allow you to continue working, again depending on workrave's
<br>> configuration. In the latter case, the break window will have a
<br>> title-bar (currently listing the break-type, not the program name - we
<br>> should look into that)
<br><br>OK. Agreed that this one doesn't run away from the mouse.
<br>>
<br>> > I think the following things would help considerably:
<br>> >
<br>> > 1 Make the name of the tool more prominent in the interface, allowing
<br>> > one to find its files in C:\Program Files, and so on;.
<br>>
<br>> I think in doing so, the windows would become uglier.
<br><br>This is an accessibility issue. If you want it pretty, find a way to
<br>do that. I don't think one more line of text saying what the program
<br>is called, within the window, or a longer title bar, will hurt anyone.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> > 2 Provide a help button, which displays the contents of the README,
<br>> > but with a little text saying what the application is for, and
<br>> > telling people to look at the system tray for the sheep icon.
<br>> > Pointing to the web is not enough, something Microsoft need to
<br>> > learn about for their documentation: there are plenty of reasons
<br>> > why the internet may not be reachable;
<br>>
<br>> That's something we could do, at least for the break windows. We'd
<br>> have to be careful, though, since the point is to stop the user from
<br>> using the computer, even if he doesn't want to :-)
</div><br>The user who wants workrave will not keep clicking the help button,
<br>especially once they know what it says. The user who doesn't know
<br>what is going on needs a way to find out. Possible consequences of
<br>not being able to find out could include:
<br>"You were getting all these popups. You clearly had a virus. I
<br>reformatted your disk and installed Windows again. You'll have to
<br>get your personal files off your last backup."
<br><br>>
<br>> > 3 Provide some means which is also prominent of stopping the
<br>> > application, still allowing it to restart at next login, or
<br>> > whatever. I'm thinking of a stop button in the popup windows,
<br>> > possibly with an "are you sure?" dialogue warning about the
<br>> > risks of RSI, etc;
<br>>
<br>> There are "skip" and "postpone" buttons available in the break
<br><br>But it keeps coming back. There should be a button to turn if off completely.
<br>You may have to go through a dialogue of the "I really don't want you
<br>to do that, Dave" variety, but there should be some discoverable way to
<br>stop it interrupting. Access to that through minute icons in the system
<br>tray is no good: my central vision is such that I need a magnifier, my
<br>peripheral vision is lower resolution still, so I won't see anything going
<br>on down there. At least I don't have tunnel vision. Most of the time
<br>I forget about the system tray, and unless the icon is used thematically
<br>throughout the application I won't know that any there are relevant.
<br><br>> windows. Not in the prelude, but it doesn't interfere with your working
<br><br>The prelude IS interfering with my work, because it always comes up over
<br>the magnifier. It keeps doing so repeatedly. If this were a person doing
<br>that, it would be considered harassment.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> and jump away anyway.
<br>>
<br>> > 4 Allow the resizing of the dialogue with the times in it. I'd
<br>> > argue that all windows should be resizable because (for example
<br>> > in safe mode) sometimes the resolution of the display is very low,
<br>> > and windows won't fit on the screen. I have had this with
<br>> > system windows which I could not close because the only close
<br>> > or OK buttons were off the bottom of the screen when the window
<br>> > was pushed up against the top.
<br>>
<br>> That's also something that could be done. Though I sincerly hope
<br>> you're not proposing to reduce your display's resolution to the point
<br>> the current status window doesn't fit any more :-)
</div><br>No, but I can's see what that window is all about because it has almost
<br>no text in it. If I could expand it there might be some I can look at.
<br>The icons in it have no tooltips.
<br>>
<br>> Groetjes,
<br>>
<br>> Kees-Jan
<br>>
<br> Thank you,
<br> Hugh
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<br><br>Thanks for your e-mail. Let's start near the bottom.
<br><br>> I suggest that you think about the issuse in this Scientific American
<br>> article on Considerate Computing.
<br>>
<br>> <a href="http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf</a><br><br>That was an interesting read, and I tend to agree with it. The user
<br>should be in control.
<br><br>Research has shown that taking a break helps preventing RSI. When
<br>requesting users to take a break, they should normally be balancing
<br>short time interests (do I want to take a break now) with long term
<br>interests (do I care about possibly acquiring RSI in the
<br>future). Research then shows that people tend to overly favor
<br>short-term interests. They will keep on working regardless of what it
<br>means for their health. Admittedly, I am one of those people, and I
<br>have suffered the consequences.
<br><br>To help people like that, Workrave is configured by default to take
<br>control of the system and force you to break. Hence, to allow for at
<br>least a little bit of "user control", Workrave should not do this
<br>unless the user has specifically requested it to do so.
<br><br>This is why the (main) user of the machine should decide whether or
<br>not to install and use workrave, and not someone else. I understand
<br>that your situation is different, but I don't think we are the right
<br>people to complain to. In my opinion, you should (also) complain to
<br>the people who installed Workrave, for giving you a machine you have
<br>less control over than you want to.
<br><br>> OK. Is it possible to avoid grabbing focus from another app, or to
<br>> give it back to that app pretty much immediately? That would allow
<br>> me to click on the window to access its controls if I need to, but
<br>> not otherwise. This is provided that the window doesn't run away
<br>> from the mouse.
<br><br>I'm not sure I fully understand your point. The window that is running
<br>away (we call it a "break prelude" or a "prelude" window) should not
<br>grab focus from your app. You should be able to continue to work
<br>normally. The window will go away after at most 30 seconds. Depending
<br>on how Workrave is configured, a break window may pop up. A break
<br>window may either grab focus and force you to break, or not grab focus
<br>and allow you to continue working, again depending on workrave's
<br>configuration. In the latter case, the break window will have a
<br>title-bar (currently listing the break-type, not the program name - we
<br>should look into that)
<br><br>> I think the following things would help considerably:
<br>>
<br>> 1 Make the name of the tool more prominent in the interface, allowing
<br>> one to find its files in C:\Program Files, and so on;.
<br><br>I think in doing so, the windows would become uglier.
<br><br>> 2 Provide a help button, which displays the contents of the README,
<br>> but with a little text saying what the application is for, and
<br>> telling people to look at the system tray for the sheep icon.
<br>> Pointing to the web is not enough, something Microsoft need to
<br>> learn about for their documentation: there are plenty of reasons
<br>> why the internet may not be reachable;
<br><br>That's something we could do, at least for the break windows. We'd
<br>have to be careful, though, since the point is to stop the user from
<br>using the computer, even if he doesn't want to :-)
<br><br>> 3 Provide some means which is also prominent of stopping the
<br>> application, still allowing it to restart at next login, or
<br>> whatever. I'm thinking of a stop button in the popup windows,
<br>> possibly with an "are you sure?" dialogue warning about the
<br>> risks of RSI, etc;
<br><br>There are "skip" and "postpone" buttons available in the break
<br>windows. Not in the prelude, but it doesn't interfere with your working
<br>and jump away anyway.
<br><br>> 4 Allow the resizing of the dialogue with the times in it. I'd
<br>> argue that all windows should be resizable because (for example
<br>> in safe mode) sometimes the resolution of the display is very low,
<br>> and windows won't fit on the screen. I have had this with
<br>> system windows which I could not close because the only close
<br>> or OK buttons were off the bottom of the screen when the window
<br>> was pushed up against the top.
<br><br>That's also something that could be done. Though I sincerly hope
<br>you're not proposing to reduce your display's resolution to the point
<br>the current status window doesn't fit any more :-)
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<br><br>> Hello Hugh,
<br>>
<br>> After re-reading your e-mail and testing the magnifier, I think
<br>> it's unlikely we will be incorporating an enhancement to make
<br>> Workrave more accessible when using that tool.
<br><br>Why is that?
<br><br>>
<br>> I'm looking into a solution for the issue where Workrave break
<br>> windows are not controllable via keyboard.
<br><br>OK. Is it possible to avoid grabbing focus from another app, or to
<br>give it back to that app pretty much immediately? That would allow
<br>me to click on the window to access its controls if I need to, but
<br>not otherwise. This is provided that the window doesn't run away
<br>from the mouse.
<br><br>>
<br>> As Kees-Jan suggested in an earlier e-mail this afternoon, you can
<br>> suspend Workrave on the computer you support by right-clicking its
<br>> icon and choosing Mode > Suspended. The owner can later enable
<br>> Workrave by changing the mode from 'Suspended' to 'Normal'.
<br><br>Yes, and that is all very well, but I couldn't see the icon, didn't
<br>know what to look for, and could see no information about what the
<br>package was called. All I could see was windows popping up about
<br>micro-breaks, and there is no application called micro-breaks on the
<br>system.
<br><br>I think the following things would help considerably:
<br><br>1 Make the name of the tool more prominent in the interface, allowing
<br> one to find its files in C:\Program Files, and so on;.
<br><br>2 Provide a help button, which displays the contents of the README,
<br> but with a little text saying what the application is for, and
<br> telling people to look at the system tray for the sheep icon.
<br> Pointing to the web is not enough, something Microsoft need to
<br> learn about for their documentation: there are plenty of reasons
<br> why the internet may not be reachable;
<br><br>3 Provide some means which is also prominent of stopping the
<br> application, still allowing it to restart at next login, or
<br> whatever. I'm thinking of a stop button in the popup windows,
<br> possibly with an "are you sure?" dialogue warning about the
<br> risks of RSI, etc;
<br><br>4 Allow the resizing of the dialogue with the times in it. I'd
<br> argue that all windows should be resizable because (for example
<br> in safe mode) sometimes the resolution of the display is very low,
<br> and windows won't fit on the screen. I have had this with
<br> system windows which I could not close because the only close
<br> or OK buttons were off the bottom of the screen when the window
<br> was pushed up against the top.
<br><br>Its present behaviour, with popups and the difficulty of killing it
<br>unless you know where to look, gave the same impression as a piece
<br>of malware. Clearly it does need to interrupt the person who is
<br>working to the extent that they notice it and respond by having a
<br>break. If it takes control of the system, regardless of the
<br>needs of the user, then in my opinion, this violates the whole
<br>principle that the computer is supposed to be the servant of the
<br>user, not the master. If the user is medically, or legally, obliged
<br>to obey the software, that is surely a matter for the human, not
<br>the machine? At present it is interfering with other users
<br>providing support to the principal user of the machine.
<br><br>I suggest that you think about the issuse in this Scientific American
<br>article on Considerate Computing.
<br><br><a href="http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://interruptions.net/literature/Gibbs-SA05-0105054.pdf</a><br><br>On the machine I was using, its principal user didn't expect the
<br>software to be there either, and didn't know how to get rid of
<br>the interruptions.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> To Hugh and the rest of the mailing list,
<br>> Workrave uses a graphical user interface (GTK+) which is DPI
<br>> aware, however Workrave itself may not be fully taking advantage
<br>> of this (in Windows). For example, if you have a
<br>> higher-than-normal font DPI (eg 120) Workrave should scale its
<br>> windows. I haven't tested this recently. I had mixed results in
<br>> Windows Server 2003 and XP some time ago. If there is any
<br>> improvement in scaling forthcoming on Windows it will probably be
<br>> better DPI awareness, and it will probably be due to improvements
<br>> in GTK+ rather than Workrave itself.
</div></div>I'd submit that this needs to be looked at with some priority
<br>because as far as I have been able to determine, you can change
<br>the font size for the desktop icons, and window title bars, but
<br>anything else in windows must be changed by changing the screen
<br>resolution.
<br><br>[The fact that I think way to enlarge things is wrong, that most of
<br>the time I need large print, but occasionally would like to see
<br>detail with some magnifier, is irrelevant: Microsoft won't be doing
<br>anything based on my opinion.]
<br><br><br>>
<br>> Thanks,
<br>>
<br>> Ray
<br><br>Thank you,
<br> Hugh
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Hugh Sasse <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26006675&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">hgs@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>> From: Hugh Sasse <hgs[AT}dmu.ac.uk>
<br>> Subject: [Workrave-user] Workrave and XP magnifier.
<br>> To: Workrave-user[AT]lists.sourceforge.net
<br>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 5:53 AM
<br>>
<br>> Workrave has been imaged onto a machine I support. I have to use
<br>> the Windows magnifier (which you can bring up with <Windows-R> then
<br>> type magnify<return>, when it comes up press return to get rid of
<br>> the message about access software, <up-arrow> a few times to
<br>> increase the magnification to about 6, then <return> to minimize the
<br>> magnifier options window) in order to work with that display.
<br>>
<br>> When Workrave brings up the pre-break warning dialogue, it appears
<br>> over the magnifier window, and it is thus not magnified. Trying to
<br>> move the mouse over the window in order to see its contents results
<br>> in the window moving to the bottom of the screen. Moving the mouse
<br>> to the window's new position results on it moving back to the top of
<br>> the screen. How is one supposed to see the contents of this window
<br>> when using the magnifier?
<br>>
<br>> When the break dialogue comes up, there are no keyboard shortcuts
<br>> for it. There is also no help facility in it to find out what it
<br>> will do once the progress bar reaches the end. So far I have
<br>> managed to skip or postpone the thing before that happens. Given
<br>> that I can't see the mouse pointer on the screen without the
<br>> magnification, it is extremely difficult to navigate to wherever
<br>> this window comes up at short notice.
<br>>
<br>> I later noticed a really small window on the desktop, with a coffee
<br>> cup icon and a time (3:50 I think) in an entry box next to it, and a
<br>> couple of similar boxes below. I think this is part of the same
<br>> program. It is not possible to resize this window in order to see
<br>> the program name properly on the title bar, but it does begin with
<br>> "Wo". It is not possible to see from the exposed part of the window
<br>> whether the times are hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds. There seem
<br>> to be no tooltips to say what the icons are for, and no help facility.
<br>>
<br>> Someone pointed out a very small sheep icon on the taskbar, but the
<br>> tooltips for that don't mention the program name, only talking about
<br>> micro-breaks.
<br>>
<br>> Only by searching for micro-breaks using Google did I find out what
<br>> this program might be, and thus find that workrave is installed on
<br>> here.
<br>>
<br>> Is anyone able to reproduce this behaviour?
<br>> Are there any configuration files/tools to make this program more
<br>> accessible?
<br>>
<br>> Thank you,
<br>> Hugh
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should scale its windows. I haven't tested this recently. I had mixed results in Windows Server 2003 and XP some time ago. If there is any improvement in scaling forthcoming on Windows it will probably be better DPI awareness, and it will probably be due to improvements in GTK+ rather than Workrave itself.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Ray<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 10/21/09, Hugh Sasse <i><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26004261&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">hgs@...</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Hugh Sasse <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26004261&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">hgs@...</a>><br>Subject: [Workrave-user] Workrave and XP magnifier.<br>To: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26004261&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">Workrave-user@...</a><br>Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 5:53 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Workrave has been imaged onto a machine I support. I have to use<br>the Windows magnifier (which you can bring up with <Windows-R> then<br>type magnify<return>, when it comes up press return to get rid of<br>the
message about access software, <up-arrow> a few times to<br>increase the magnification to about 6, then <return> to minimize the<br>magnifier options window) in order to work with that display.<br><br>When Workrave brings up the pre-break warning dialogue, it appears<br>over the magnifier window, and it is thus not magnified. Trying to<br>move the mouse over the window in order to see its contents results<br>in the window moving to the bottom of the screen. Moving the mouse<br>to the window's new position results on it moving back to the top of<br>the screen. How is one supposed to see the contents of this window<br>when using the magnifier?<br><br>When the break dialogue comes up, there are no keyboard shortcuts<br>for it. There is also no help facility in it to find out what it<br>will do once the progress bar reaches the end. So far I have<br>managed to skip or postpone the thing before that happens.
Given<br>that I can't see the mouse pointer on the screen without the<br>magnification, it is extremely difficult to navigate to wherever<br>this window comes up at short notice.<br><br>I later noticed a really small window on the desktop, with a coffee<br>cup icon and a time (3:50 I think) in an entry box next to it, and a<br>couple of similar boxes below. I think this is part of the same<br>program. It is not possible to resize this window in order to see<br>the program name properly on the title bar, but it does begin with<br>"Wo". It is not possible to see from the exposed part of the window<br>whether the times are hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds. There seem<br>to be no tooltips to say what the icons are for, and no help facility.<br><br>Someone pointed out a very small sheep icon on the taskbar, but the<br>tooltips for that don't mention the program name, only talking about<br>micro-breaks.<br><br>Only by searching for
micro-breaks using Google did I find out what<br>this program might be, and thus find that workrave is installed on<br>here.<br><br>Is anyone able to reproduce this behaviour?<br>Are there any configuration files/tools to make this program more<br>accessible?<br><br> Thank you,<br> Hugh<br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA<br>is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your<br>developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay <br>ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now!<br><a href="http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Workrave-user mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Workrave-user@lists.sourceforge.net" href="/mc/compose?to=Workrave-user@lists.sourceforge.net" target="_top" rel="nofollow">Workrave-user@...</a><br><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/workrave-user" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/workrave-user</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
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<br><br>Workrave is a program designed to prevent RSI. It tries to do so by
<br>periodically popping up windows suggesting the user to take a break.
<br>Depending on how it is configured, it can become pretty insistent. Some
<br>(if not most) people are very annoyed by Workrave's continuus popups,
<br>leading to elevated stress levels, which, eventually, leads to RSI. For
<br>them, Workrave is counterproductive.
<br><br>Hence, I strongly believe that workrave should only be used by people
<br>who consciously decide they want to. You sound like workrave was forced
<br>upon you, which is, in my opinion, a bad idea. If support people come
<br>over to help me with my machine, I make it a point to disable workrave
<br>for them before handing over mouse and/or keyboard.
<br><br>Lots of thought has gone into workrave usability already. Overall, we
<br>are aiming to be as unobtrusive as possible. This is why windows "jump
<br>away" when you hover the mouse over them: The assumption is that you
<br>want to click something that is underneath. For the same reason,
<br>keyboard shortcuts are disabled on break windows: If a break window pops
<br>up while you are typing, you do not want your keystrokes to result in
<br>buttons being pressed.
<br><br>To make a long story shorter: Although much effort has been invested in
<br>usability already, though the focus is on "normal" people, and not the
<br>visually- or otherwise-impaired.
<br><br>So far, I don't think I've been much help (thanks for following along
<br>till here). I'm not sure where to go from here. For visually impaired
<br>people that decide to use workrave, I'm a bit unsure where the major
<br>usability issues are. Workrave's popup windows always show the same
<br>content, so a regular user will not want to read them anyway, just be
<br>aware that they are there, so they can decide to take a break. To
<br>support this mode, there are sound events that depend on the popup being
<br>shown, so you could know what workrave is doing even with your eyes
<br>closed. Like I said, I'm not sure where to improve.
<br><br>You sound like a user who is confronted with workrave without being
<br>familiar with it. This is a difficult situation to work from, since it
<br>is workrave's job to annoy you. I could tell you how to get workrave out
<br>of your way (locate the sheep icon in the system tray, right click it,
<br>and then choose "Quit" or "Mode->Suspended"), but I don't know how to
<br>improve usability here, without making things worse for our regular users.
<br><br>I absolutely see the problem. It is just that many of the things you
<br>mention are so by design (except maybe the non-resizable status window
<br>and obviously the sorely lacking documentation).
<br><br>Sorry I couldn't be more help. Maybe anyone else has suggestions?
<br><br>Groetjes,
<br><br>Kees-Jan
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2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Hugh Sasse <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25996725&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">hgs@...</a>><br>Subject: [Workrave-user] Workrave and XP magnifier.<br>To: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25996725&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">Workrave-user@...</a><br>Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 5:53 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Workrave has been imaged onto a machine I support. I have to use<br>the Windows magnifier (which you can bring up with <Windows-R> then<br>type magnify<return>, when it comes up press return to get rid of<br>the message about access software, <up-arrow> a few times to<br>increase the magnification to about 6, then <return> to minimize the<br>magnifier options window) in order to work with that display.<br><br>When Workrave brings up the pre-break warning dialogue, it appears<br>over the magnifier window, and it is thus not magnified. Trying to<br>move the mouse over the window in order to see its contents results<br>in the window moving to
the bottom of the screen. Moving the mouse<br>to the window's new position results on it moving back to the top of<br>the screen. How is one supposed to see the contents of this window<br>when using the magnifier?<br><br>When the break dialogue comes up, there are no keyboard shortcuts<br>for it. There is also no help facility in it to find out what it<br>will do once the progress bar reaches the end. So far I have<br>managed to skip or postpone the thing before that happens. Given<br>that I can't see the mouse pointer on the screen without the<br>magnification, it is extremely difficult to navigate to wherever<br>this window comes up at short notice.<br><br>I later noticed a really small window on the desktop, with a coffee<br>cup icon and a time (3:50 I think) in an entry box next to it, and a<br>couple of similar boxes below. I think this is part of the same<br>program. It is not possible to resize this
window in order to see<br>the program name properly on the title bar, but it does begin with<br>"Wo". It is not possible to see from the exposed part of the window<br>whether the times are hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds. There seem<br>to be no tooltips to say what the icons are for, and no help facility.<br><br>Someone pointed out a very small sheep icon on the taskbar, but the<br>tooltips for that don't mention the program name, only talking about<br>micro-breaks.<br><br>Only by searching for micro-breaks using Google did I find out what<br>this program might be, and thus find that workrave is installed on<br>here.<br><br>Is anyone able to reproduce this behaviour?<br>Are there any configuration files/tools to make this program more<br>accessible?<br><br> Thank you,<br> Hugh<br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Come build with us!
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<br><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/workrave-user" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/workrave-user</a><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/workrave-user-f3879.html" embed="fixTarget[3879]" target="_top" >workrave-user</a></p>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25989557Workrave and XP magnifier.2009-10-21T02:53:07Z2009-10-21T02:53:07ZHugh SasseWorkrave has been imaged onto a machine I support. I have to use
<br>the Windows magnifier (which you can bring up with <Windows-R> then
<br>type magnify<return>, when it comes up press return to get rid of
<br>the message about access software, <up-arrow> a few times to
<br>increase the magnification to about 6, then <return> to minimize the
<br>magnifier options window) in order to work with that display.
<br><br>When Workrave brings up the pre-break warning dialogue, it appears
<br>over the magnifier window, and it is thus not magnified. Trying to
<br>move the mouse over the window in order to see its contents results
<br>in the window moving to the bottom of the screen. Moving the mouse
<br>to the window's new position results on it moving back to the top of
<br>the screen. How is one supposed to see the contents of this window
<br>when using the magnifier?
<br><br>When the break dialogue comes up, there are no keyboard shortcuts
<br>for it. There is also no help facility in it to find out what it
<br>will do once the progress bar reaches the end. So far I have
<br>managed to skip or postpone the thing before that happens. Given
<br>that I can't see the mouse pointer on the screen without the
<br>magnification, it is extremely difficult to navigate to wherever
<br>this window comes up at short notice.
<br><br>I later noticed a really small window on the desktop, with a coffee
<br>cup icon and a time (3:50 I think) in an entry box next to it, and a
<br>couple of similar boxes below. I think this is part of the same
<br>program. It is not possible to resize this window in order to see
<br>the program name properly on the title bar, but it does begin with
<br>"Wo". It is not possible to see from the exposed part of the window
<br>whether the times are hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds. There seem
<br>to be no tooltips to say what the icons are for, and no help facility.
<br><br>Someone pointed out a very small sheep icon on the taskbar, but the
<br>tooltips for that don't mention the program name, only talking about
<br>micro-breaks.
<br><br>Only by searching for micro-breaks using Google did I find out what
<br>this program might be, and thus find that workrave is installed on
<br>here.
<br><br>Is anyone able to reproduce this behaviour?
<br>Are there any configuration files/tools to make this program more
<br>accessible?
<br><br> Thank you,
<br> Hugh
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<br> checking for GNOME... configure: error: Package requirements
<br> > (libpanelapplet-2.0 >= 2.0.10 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0.0)
<br> > were not met:
<br> >
<br> > No package 'libpanelapplet-2.0' found
<br> >
<br> > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
<br> > installed software in a non-standard prefix.
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<br> I tried installing both libpanelapplet and libbonobo, but with no luck.
<br> How do I configure and make Workrave for KDE?
<br> Thanks in advance.
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<br><br>Thanks a million! This of course solved the problem in an instant. I
<br>feel slightly embarrassed and very happy that it was this easy.
<br><br>Wishing you (and anyone else reading this) a wonderful Thursday.
<br><br>Camilla
<br><br><br><br>Kees-Jan Dijkzeul skrev:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hi Camilla,
<br>>
<br>> The red line across the icon means that you (or someone else) switched
<br>> workrave to "suspended" mode. In suspended mode, it will not do much
<br>> of anything.
<br>>
<br>> Please right click on the icon to open the menu. Select the "Mode"
<br>> submenu, and then select "Normal". Now the red line should disappear,
<br>> and workrave should resume working normally.
<br>>
<br>> Groetjes,
<br>>
<br>> Kees-Jan
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<br><br>The red line across the icon means that you (or someone else) switched
<br>workrave to "suspended" mode. In suspended mode, it will not do much of
<br>anything.
<br><br>Please right click on the icon to open the menu. Select the "Mode"
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<br><br>I've been having trouble with Workrave lately, I can't seem to get it to
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<br>toolbar icon suddenly showed up with a red line across it. And the
<br>program itself looks like it's working, in that it opens, but it doesn't
<br>seem to recognize that I'm using the keyborad etc. It also doesn't seem
<br>to help that I uninstall and re-install. Is this a common issue?
<br><br>I depend on Workrave and I'm usually very pleased with it and I would
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computer does not."<br><br>Do you have Windows 7 x86 or x64? What build (command 'winver')?<br>Programs Menu > Accessories > System Tools > System Information<br><br>What version of Workrave are you running?<br>Right-click Workrave icon > About<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Ray<br><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 10/7/09, Childers, Alice M <i><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25790608&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">achilder@...</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Childers, Alice M <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25790608&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">achilder@...</a>><br>Subject: [Workrave-user] windows 7 and workrave<br>To: "'<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25790608&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">workrave-user@...</a>'" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=25790608&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">workrave-user@...</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 8:03 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1336123451">
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computer does not. Do I just need to do a reinstall or is this being worked
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<br><br>> �� I am work in gentoo, after emerge� workrave, I found that ,the timer
<br>> of workrave doesn't work,but everything else seems good.�
<br><br>On a recent Xorg server (>= 1.6 I think) you need an additional patch for
<br>Workrave 1.9.0:
<br><br><a href="http://cgit.krandor.org/cgit.cgi?url=workrave/commit/&h=branch_v1_9&id=33f01a179da87e27dca3d57662872ef7077efb22" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://cgit.krandor.org/cgit.cgi?url=workrave/commit/&h=branch_v1_9&id=33f01a179da87e27dca3d57662872ef7077efb22</a><br><br>I know Ubuntu and Debian include this patch.
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<br>> am getting an error in shown below and would love some thoughts on
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<br><br>I fixed the egg stuff (I only tested it on unix/windows initailly)
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the following is some file in my .workrave directory.<br>~/.workrave $ cat state <br>WorkRaveState 3<br>1253584860<br>micro_pause 1253584860 0 0 0 0 0 0 -28800<br>rest_break 1253584860 0 0 0 0 0 0 -28800<br>daily_limit 1253584860 0 1253584699 0 0 0 0 -28800<br>
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