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Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
This is a short term contract position, and after saying they are
looking for a recent graduate, which I assume means up to 2 years
after graduating, they then go on to say -
The requirements are:
Knowledge of Networking
Excellent in Troubleshooting
Excellent customer relationship skills and service orientation
Excellent teamwork skills
Willingness to work in shifts
Profound technical background in Telecommunications / IT, including:
Unix/Linux - advantage
Knowledge of Informix, Oracle databases - advantage
Knowledge of telephony, CCS, signalling - advantage
Familiarity with SUN and Digital UNIX � advantage
I accept that within two years the first section is feasible, but the
second section, would a IT student even graduate with an in depth
knowledge of telephony signalling etc?
The pay is crap by the way - NZ$40K = AU$31.7 = GBP15K
Colin
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Re: Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
>I accept that within two years the first section is feasible, but the
>second section, would a IT student even graduate with an in depth
>knowledge of telephony signalling etc?
I doubt they would have "profound knowledge" of much of that, although they
may well have a pretty good knowledge of the *nix world.
>The pay is crap by the way - NZ$40K = AU$31.7 = GBP15K
They really are looking for someone straight out of college then ...
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2009/7/1 cdb < colin@...>
> This is a short term contract position, and after saying they are
> looking for a recent graduate, which I assume means up to 2 years
> after graduating, they then go on to say -
Many students nowadays have jobs or make a pause for one or two years to
collect some money to continue their studies. We also have few associates
like this and they are actually good.
Tamas
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On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 20:55 +1000, cdb wrote:
> This is a short term contract position, and after saying they are
> looking for a recent graduate, which I assume means up to 2 years
> after graduating, they then go on to say -
>
> The requirements are:
> Knowledge of Networking
> Excellent in Troubleshooting
> Excellent customer relationship skills and service orientation
> Excellent teamwork skills
> Willingness to work in shifts
>
> Profound technical background in Telecommunications / IT, including:
> Unix/Linux - advantage
> Knowledge of Informix, Oracle databases - advantage
> Knowledge of telephony, CCS, signalling - advantage
> Familiarity with SUN and Digital UNIX advantage
>
> I accept that within two years the first section is feasible, but the
> second section, would a IT student even graduate with an in depth
> knowledge of telephony signalling etc?
For me, and for many other grads, I gathered relevant experience BEFORE
graduating, both with summer jobs and my co-op term. This is a good idea
for ANY student. Just think, a whole bunch of you will be graduating at
the same time, doesn't it seem like a good idea to have some relevant
experience before your graduation day?
So, my answer to you is yes, a new grad could easily fill those
requirements. Telecom wasn't my area, so if you replace that with say
prototype electronics design or something like that I would have been a
perfect match for that job the day I graduated.
TTYL
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Re: Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 20:55 +1000, cdb wrote:
> The pay is crap by the way - NZ$40K = AU$31.7 = GBP15K
As for the pay, I'm not sure what you'd expect for a recent grad
position. While it's hard to translate pay figures across borders, to me
$30k CND is low, but not that low (plus we're taxed pretty heavily in
Canada). Chances are this is sort of a "probation" pay, assuming good
work is done I'm sure after a few months the pay will increase (that's
usually how it's done here).
TTYL
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Funny NYPD< funnynypd@...> wrote:
> LOL. 30K CAD/year is not so low in Canada.
>
That is what I hear as well. Fresh graduate here in Singapore
would expect similar salary (36k SGD/year). The tax is relatively
low here in Singapore for fresh graduates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Singapore>From xe.com as of today (2009.07.03).
1 USD = 1.15 CAD
1 USD = 1.45 SGD
1 USD = 0.71 EUR
1 USD = 1.58 NZD
1 USD =1.25 AUD
1 USD = 0.61 GBP
I believe many areas of US would expect higher salary (50K US
per year?). Some part of Europe (eg: Germany) would expect
similar salary to US (or slightly higher).
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Re: Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
As far as I know here in Ireland the graduate's salary is around €30k while
in the UK it starts from around £22k. Euro and Sterling is a bit stronger
than USD so it seems that the salary here is high, but also the living costs
are quite high. Not sure the taxes in the UK at the moment but here in
Ireland they just increased recently due to the recession -- I think UK
still has the lower VAT till the end of this year? It is quite common that a
graduate lives in a shared house -- is it the same in other places?
Tamas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Xiaofan Chen < xiaofanc@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Funny NYPD< funnynypd@...> wrote:
> > LOL. 30K CAD/year is not so low in Canada.
> >
>
> That is what I hear as well. Fresh graduate here in Singapore
> would expect similar salary (36k SGD/year). The tax is relatively
> low here in Singapore for fresh graduates.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Singapore>
> >From xe.com as of today (2009.07.03).
> 1 USD = 1.15 CAD
> 1 USD = 1.45 SGD
> 1 USD = 0.71 EUR
> 1 USD = 1.58 NZD
> 1 USD =1.25 AUD
> 1 USD = 0.61 GBP
>
> I believe many areas of US would expect higher salary (50K US
> per year?). Some part of Europe (eg: Germany) would expect
> similar salary to US (or slightly higher).
>
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Re: Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
Raising taxes during a recession is considered by economists to be a Very
Bad Idea, because it creates the inevitable deadweight loss (i.e., makes the
recession worse). With all other options exhausted, printing more money or
borrowing are lesser evils.
"It is quite common that a
graduate lives in a shared house -- is it the same in other places?"
One of my cousins did that for one year after graduation, as did one of my
friends.
Vitaliy
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Subject: Re: [OT]Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
As far as I know here in Ireland the graduate's salary is around €30k while
in the UK it starts from around £22k. Euro and Sterling is a bit stronger
than USD so it seems that the salary here is high, but also the living costs
are quite high. Not sure the taxes in the UK at the moment but here in
Ireland they just increased recently due to the recession -- I think UK
still has the lower VAT till the end of this year? It is quite common that a
graduate lives in a shared house -- is it the same in other places?
Tamas
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Nathan House wrote:
> Hmm... And here I was hoping to make 80k when I graduate from university.
>
> Maybe our economies will improve, a lot, in four years? :-)
Your best bet is to try to improve your personal economy. :-)
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Re: Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?
Vitaliy wrote:
> Raising taxes during a recession is considered by economists to be a
> Very Bad Idea, because it creates the inevitable deadweight loss
> (i.e., makes the recession worse). With all other options exhausted,
> printing more money or borrowing are lesser evils.
Ah... the economists :) If only there was ever a time considered
"non-recession" when that borrowed money is paid back. I think I've
never seen that, which makes this approach a little less ... how do I
say ... "sustainable" maybe? This approach may look good "on paper", but
only if you forget about the small details along the road (bridges etc.
:)
Gerhard
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Vitaliy < piclist@...> wrote:
> Raising taxes during a recession is considered by economists to be a Very
> Bad Idea, because it creates the inevitable deadweight loss (i.e., makes
> the
> recession worse). With all other options exhausted, printing more money or
> borrowing are lesser evils.
If you were thinking to try to become the financial minister here in Ireland
on the following election then you have already got one vote :-)
Tamas
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>Where are you located? And what is the unit of the 80k you want to make?
;-)
In the United States, and the 80k would be USD. From what I've read, I was
thinking 60-80k was the average starting salary for computer engineers in
the U.S.?
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Nathan House< nathanpiclist@...> wrote:
>>Where are you located? And what is the unit of the 80k you want to make?
> ;-)
>
> In the United States, and the 80k would be USD. From what I've read, I was
> thinking 60-80k was the average starting salary for computer engineers in
> the U.S.?
Here in BC, APEG (the professional engineering organization) does a
regular salary survey, and typical graduates make $50k CAD in the
first few years after graduation. It depends on the cost of living in
your area, but I would be very surprised at a new grad making $80k.
Alex
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Nathan House< nathanpiclist@...> wrote:
>>Where are you located? And what is the unit of the 80k you want to make?
> ;-)
>
> In the United States, and the 80k would be USD. From what I've read, I was
> thinking 60-80k was the average starting salary for computer engineers in
> the U.S.?
80k starting salary? Who told you that? Even in the best job markets
no EE/CE starts out at 80k unless (possibly) they have a PhD.
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Martin
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