Would a recent IT graduate be cabable of all this?

[Sean Breheny]

Hi Nathan,

It looks to me like those pages estimate about $55K USD starting
salary for someone with a BS degree.

Also, some of that data is from 2006 when the economy was considerably better.

Sean


On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Nathan House<nathanpiclist@...> wrote:

>>80k starting salary? Who told you that? Even in the best job markets
>>no EE/CE starts out at 80k unless (possibly) they have a PhD.
> Check out these:
>
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm
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[Sean Breheny]

Another thing, cost of living causes a BIG variation in starting
salary. When I was last looking for a job, my offers for an EE
position ranged from $35K USD to $62K USD. When ranked in order of
size of the city where they were located, it lined up exactly with the
magnitude of the salary. I went with the highest one (although the
main factor was that that job was also the most interesting), and the
first year I had a substantial raise, but since then raises have been
minimal or non-existent, largely due to the economy. I don't know what
we are presently offering fresh-outs.

Sean


On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Nathan House<nathanpiclist@...> wrote:

>>80k starting salary? Who told you that? Even in the best job markets
>>no EE/CE starts out at 80k unless (possibly) they have a PhD.
> Check out these:
>
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm
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[Nathan House-5]

True. To be honest I didn't really read through those pages thoroughly, I
just found them through a quick google search on computer engineering
salaries. I suppose starting salaries also depend on what company you get
hired for, if you're specialized in some "niche" where there aren't many
people with your talents, your portfolio, references, et cetera.
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[Benjamin Grant]

I mean honestly, to whoever posted the desire to make 80k out of college...
many of my friends graduating from Duke BME are making 60, 70K.. and such
specific skills are hardly a requirement. Typically, some one who knows how
to learn on the job is sought at the big engineering firms, and a good
working knowledge of engineering as well as work ethic are encouraged. I am
certainly not making anything close to that at graduate school.. closer to
the uk 15 k posted here... but at least i'm still learning

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Nathan House <nathanpiclist@...>wrote:

> True. To be honest I didn't really read through those pages thoroughly, I
> just found them through a quick google search on computer engineering
> salaries. I suppose starting salaries also depend on what company you get
> hired for, if you're specialized in some "niche" where there aren't many
> people with your talents, your portfolio, references, et cetera.
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[Herbert Graf-5]

On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 09:01 -0500, Nathan House wrote:
> >Where are you located? And what is the unit of the 80k you want to make?
> ;-)
>
> In the United States, and the 80k would be USD. From what I've read, I was
> thinking 60-80k was the average starting salary for computer engineers in
> the U.S.?

You are perhaps generalizing too much. A major factor for starting
salary is WHERE you are, a starting salary in silicon valley is likely
going to be higher then one in Fargo.

That said, I'd say 60k is the upper end for starting salary in most
areas, expect something in the 50s, even lower in some areas.

And remember, for many jobs the initial salary is more like a
"probationary" salary at the beginning, it usually goes up to a more
"normal" starting salary as long as you perform well.

TTYL

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[Herbert Graf-5]

On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 11:44 -0500, Nathan House wrote:
> >80k starting salary? Who told you that? Even in the best job markets
> >no EE/CE starts out at 80k unless (possibly) they have a PhD.
> Check out these:
>
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm

I'm seeing an average starting salary of 56k according to that page,
which is pretty much what I expected.

Remember too this is AVERAGE, again, depending on where you are you may
get quite a bit less.

And finally, these numbers come from a "boom" time, the world is very
different right now.

TTYL

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