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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26722690</id>
	<title>Re: Xfce Documentation viewer, idea...</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T22:26:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T22:26:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Massonnet</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/12/9 Ali Abdallah &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26722690&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;aliov@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hey All,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I wanna discuss in this mail having a simple viewer for our documentation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Why using a simple viewer instead of just asking a browser to show the doc:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1) It is much faster.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2) It will automatically load a localized documentations with respect to the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; system locale, if not found, C fallback,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2') If there is links inside a document, and it is not found in the current
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; locale of the document itself,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;   then also the link is loaded from the C dir, this is done by catching
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;navigation-policy-decision-requested&amp;quot; webkit signal.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3) We can add whatever we like to the viewer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I wrote a simple viewer just for demonstration, the code can be found
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it depends on libxfce4ui and webkit, and the other standards.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can try it without installing it, just compile it with the correct
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; prefix (prefix=/usr if your docs are in /usr/share/xfce4/doc).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Let me guys know your opinions, and if you like the idea.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ask someone to create a git repo, this is nice to have around and as
&lt;br&gt;pointed out by Jim, libyelp will be around the corner sooner or later
&lt;br&gt;and this app can eventually be the base of the future libyelp-based
&lt;br&gt;app.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently I don't know any code that has a function to open
&lt;br&gt;documentation, I do it manually by calling exo-open/firefox, which
&lt;br&gt;brings me to think that we may need a convenience function in
&lt;br&gt;libxfce4ui, it could be a simple call to xfce4_open_doc().
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Links with anchors don't work, I receive a &amp;quot;Page not found&amp;quot; for the
&lt;br&gt;following URI:
&lt;br&gt;file:///usr/local/share/xfce4/doc/C/xfce4-intro.html%23xfce4-resources
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Best Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ali.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Mike
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26713644</id>
	<title>Re: Xfce Documentation viewer, idea...</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T08:57:46Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T08:57:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jim Campbell-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Ali,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ali Abdallah &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26713644&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;aliov@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;&quot;&gt;

Hey All,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I wanna discuss in this mail having a simple viewer for our documentation.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Why using a simple viewer instead of just asking a browser to show the doc:&lt;br&gt;
1) It is much faster.&lt;br&gt;
2) It will automatically load a localized documentations with respect to the system locale, if not found, C fallback,&lt;br&gt;
2&amp;#39;) If there is links inside a document, and it is not found in the current locale of the document itself,&lt;br&gt;
   then also the link is loaded from the C dir, this is done by catching &amp;quot;navigation-policy-decision-requested&amp;quot; webkit signal.&lt;br&gt;
3) We can add whatever we like to the viewer.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I wrote a simple viewer just for demonstration, the code can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;


it depends on libxfce4ui and webkit, and the other standards.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You can try it without installing it, just compile it with the correct prefix (prefix=/usr if your docs are in /usr/share/xfce4/doc).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Let me guys know your opinions, and if you like the idea.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Best Regards,&lt;br&gt;
Ali.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks so much for taking the initiative on this.  I tried compiling the help viewer this morning, but it wouldn&amp;#39;t launch after compiling (I&amp;#39;ll have to get the exact error when I get back home.)  &lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, the GNOME documentation team has shown great willingness to build out tools and libraries that will assist documentation contributors who use different desktop environments.  One of their initiatives right now is to split the yelp application into several different libraries that can be used to build documentation and even (if someone wants) to build a different help viewer.   They recently announced some of their specific ideas for this initiative [1], and I&amp;#39;ve copied the leader of the GNOME doc team on this message.  &lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because we&amp;#39;re using Mallard for our docs, basing any help viewer that we put together on these tools and libraries would be very, very beneficial to us.  I don&amp;#39;t think that all of the libraries have been split out yet, but they will be split out in the relatively near future.  Jannis Pohlmann of the Xfce team has discussed the dependencies, and he didn&amp;#39;t have any problems with them.  Shaun ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26713644&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shaunm@...&lt;/a&gt; ) could give you more information the dependencies, and you should feel free to contact him with any questions.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have any questions for me for now, feel free to let me know.  Also, please &amp;quot;reply to all,&amp;quot; with any replies to this message, as Shaun isn&amp;#39;t on the Xfce mailing list.  Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Jim&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2009-November/msg00053.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2009-November/msg00053.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26713661</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T08:55:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T08:55:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>malenki-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Peter de Ridder wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.xfce.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.xfce.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;you don't need an account.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodies.xfce.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://goodies.xfce.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;you need an account.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It seems malenki is talking about the goodies wiki.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I have linked at the OP it was
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;I talked about
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;malenki
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26712543</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T07:54:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T07:54:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Peter de Ridder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:17 PM, malenki &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26712543&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;osm_@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Brian J. Tarricone&amp;quot; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hash: SHA1
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On 12/06/2009 02:32 AM, malenki wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; David Mohr wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; It is a wiki, so feel free to add your suggestion right on that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; page.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok, so I'll get the 253rd account $somewhere to edit a line...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Our wiki doesn't require an account to edit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Without being logged in at the wiki I am shown:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;   [Show pagesource]  [Old revisions]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Clicking [Show pagesource] I read:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This page is read only. You can view the source, but not change it. Ask
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; your administrator if you think this is wrong.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Being logged in I see:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    [Edit this page]   [Old revisions]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;For &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.xfce.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.xfce.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;you don't need an account.
&lt;br&gt;For &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodies.xfce.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://goodies.xfce.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;you need an account.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems malenki is talking about the goodies wiki.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Peter de Ridder
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26711963</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T07:17:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T07:17:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>malenki-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;quot;Brian J. Tarricone&amp;quot; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hash: SHA1
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On 12/06/2009 02:32 AM, malenki wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; David Mohr wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; It is a wiki, so feel free to add your suggestion right on that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; page.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok, so I'll get the 253rd account $somewhere to edit a line...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Our wiki doesn't require an account to edit.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Without being logged in at the wiki I am shown:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;[Show pagesource] &amp;nbsp;[Old revisions]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clicking [Show pagesource] I read:
&lt;br&gt;This page is read only. You can view the source, but not change it. Ask
&lt;br&gt;your administrator if you think this is wrong.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Being logged in I see:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [Edit this page] &amp;nbsp; [Old revisions]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;malenki
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26710983</id>
	<title>Re: xfwm window focus nuances</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T06:21:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T06:21:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from einars@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Some reasoning behind that can be found in bugzilla [1]. While that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; seems to work for the most mouse-focus-followers, sadly this breaks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; another usage: focusing specific windows by global keyboard
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; shortcuts.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That patch never makes it to git AFAIK.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not exactly like mentioned in bugzilla, but in the git at xfwm4, in
&lt;br&gt;src/client.c there are lines in clientActivate function
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if (source_is_application || screen_info-&amp;gt;params-&amp;gt;click_to_focus)
&lt;br&gt;{
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; clientSetFocus (screen_info, c, timestamp, NO_FOCUS_FLAG);
&lt;br&gt;}
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;which result in such problems - the focusing is mostly skipped in
&lt;br&gt;mouse-follow mode. I've commented the check out for myself, and this
&lt;br&gt;reverts back to the old behaviour.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to be a side-effect of bunch of changes here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;commit 1e1e5e23095b1ebecaccf235585f0f9adec4b335
&lt;br&gt;Author: Olivier Fourdan &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26710983&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fourdan.olivier@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: &amp;nbsp; Wed Jul 22 08:16:40 2009 +0000
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* src/focus.c: Place windows on top of stack even when not focused in
&lt;br&gt;focus follow mouse. (patch by Clifford Jolly&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26710983&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cliff@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So maybe it is actually just a bug, not a feature?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Einar.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26709984</id>
	<title>Re: xfwm window focus nuances</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T05:16:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T05:16:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Olivier Fourdan-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Einar Lielmanis &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26709984&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;einars@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Since the release of XFCE, in a git version of the xfwm there have been
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; changes that don't allow focusing the window which doesn't have the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mouse pointer, if &amp;quot;focus follows mouse&amp;quot; option is set.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Some reasoning behind that can be found in bugzilla [1]. While that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; seems to work for the most mouse-focus-followers, sadly this breaks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; another usage: focusing specific windows by global keyboard shortcuts.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That patch never makes it to git AFAIK.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The focusing, assigning something like &amp;quot;wmctrl -a -x urxvt&amp;quot; [2] to a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; shortcut, has worked very nice so far, alleviating the pain of chaotic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; alt-tab switching or mouse navigation. As focus-follows-mouse option
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; changes the focus only when mouse enters/leaves a window, there had
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; been no problems with this approach.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Now, any window will refuse to receive focus at all times, except for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some wm-specific moments (like, mouse movement, or alt-tab). Alt-tab,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; which anyway allows to change the focus of the window, regardless of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the pointer position.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Focus stealing prevention instead, maybe?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, generally,  I think that a possibility to focus any given window
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regardless of the mouse settings, like alt-tab does, is a good thing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and has its uses.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Any thoughts?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's most leikely focus stealing prevention combined with support
&lt;br&gt;for source indication in NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.4.html#id2550738&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.4.html#id2550738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.4.html#sourceindication&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.4.html#sourceindication&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Olivier.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26709454</id>
	<title>Xfce Documentation viewer, idea...</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T04:30:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T04:30:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ali Abdallah-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hey All,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wanna discuss in this mail having a simple viewer for our documentation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why using a simple viewer instead of just asking a browser to show the doc:
&lt;br&gt;1) It is much faster.
&lt;br&gt;2) It will automatically load a localized documentations with respect to 
&lt;br&gt;the system locale, if not found, C fallback,
&lt;br&gt;2') If there is links inside a document, and it is not found in the 
&lt;br&gt;current locale of the document itself,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; then also the link is loaded from the C dir, this is done by 
&lt;br&gt;catching &amp;quot;navigation-policy-decision-requested&amp;quot; webkit signal.
&lt;br&gt;3) We can add whatever we like to the viewer.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wrote a simple viewer just for demonstration, the code can be found 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://foo-projects.org/~nick/packages/xfce4-help-0.0.0.tar.bz2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;it depends on libxfce4ui and webkit, and the other standards.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can try it without installing it, just compile it with the correct 
&lt;br&gt;prefix (prefix=/usr if your docs are in /usr/share/xfce4/doc).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me guys know your opinions, and if you like the idea.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Ali.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26708634</id>
	<title>xfwm window focus nuances</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T02:48:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T02:48:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from einars@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Since the release of XFCE, in a git version of the xfwm there have been
&lt;br&gt;changes that don't allow focusing the window which doesn't have the
&lt;br&gt;mouse pointer, if &amp;quot;focus follows mouse&amp;quot; option is set.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some reasoning behind that can be found in bugzilla [1]. While that
&lt;br&gt;seems to work for the most mouse-focus-followers, sadly this breaks
&lt;br&gt;another usage: focusing specific windows by global keyboard shortcuts.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The focusing, assigning something like &amp;quot;wmctrl -a -x urxvt&amp;quot; [2] to a
&lt;br&gt;shortcut, has worked very nice so far, alleviating the pain of chaotic
&lt;br&gt;alt-tab switching or mouse navigation. As focus-follows-mouse option
&lt;br&gt;changes the focus only when mouse enters/leaves a window, there had
&lt;br&gt;been no problems with this approach.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, any window will refuse to receive focus at all times, except for
&lt;br&gt;some wm-specific moments (like, mouse movement, or alt-tab). Alt-tab,
&lt;br&gt;which anyway allows to change the focus of the window, regardless of
&lt;br&gt;the pointer position.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, generally, &amp;nbsp;I think that a possibility to focus any given window
&lt;br&gt;regardless of the mouse settings, like alt-tab does, is a good thing
&lt;br&gt;and has its uses.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any thoughts?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Einar Lielmanis
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4679&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4679&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;2: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugpipe.com/post/228595413/custom-kde-style-window-shortcuts-in-gnome&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugpipe.com/post/228595413/custom-kde-style-window-shortcuts-in-gnome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;_______________________________________________
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26702000</id>
	<title>Re: Tumbler, Thunar and stuff</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T14:30:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T14:30:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jannis Pohlmann-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:19:20 +0100
&lt;br&gt;Jannis Pohlmann &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26702000&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jannis@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is another step towards getting the first Thunar release with GIO
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; support out of the door. This is something that I expect to happen by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the end of the week or maybe the weekend. I'll probably port Benny's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; JPEG thumbnailer to tumbler (as a plugin) before 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Check. Happy testing. For those of you who filed bugs against the JPEG
&lt;br&gt;thumbnailer of ThunarVFS, please verify if those are still present and
&lt;br&gt;file bugs against Tumbler (unspecified version for now).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Jannis
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682669</id>
	<title>Tumbler, Thunar and stuff</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T11:19:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T11:19:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jannis Pohlmann-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hey guys,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;today I released tumbler 0.1.0 which includes all functionality that it
&lt;br&gt;is supposed to have. I've been running it with Thunar for a while and
&lt;br&gt;it seems to work very well. It has also been tested on Maemo 6 by
&lt;br&gt;Philip a little bit, plus there are a few thumbnailers being written
&lt;br&gt;for Tumbler and the Maemo platform already.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is another step towards getting the first Thunar release with GIO
&lt;br&gt;support out of the door. This is something that I expect to happen by
&lt;br&gt;the end of the week or maybe the weekend. I'll probably port Benny's
&lt;br&gt;JPEG thumbnailer to tumbler (as a plugin) before and maybe I'll write a
&lt;br&gt;backwards-compatible plugin for ThunarVFS thumbnailer scripts as well
&lt;br&gt;before the release. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The first development release of Thunar will not include its own volume
&lt;br&gt;monitor but that sort of thing will work with GVfs. I'm still planning
&lt;br&gt;a HAL-based GIO volume monitor for 1.2.0 (Xfce 4.8) depending on the
&lt;br&gt;free time I have (University keeps me busy these days).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, sorry for not hanging around that much lately. I'm trying to keep
&lt;br&gt;in touch and stay updated on the latest changes and hopefully I'll get
&lt;br&gt;back to hacking very, very soon (I guess I *have* to for the Thunar
&lt;br&gt;release anyway ;)).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers and keep rocking,
&lt;br&gt;Jannis
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26668970</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T12:57:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T12:57:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian J. Tarricone-3</name>
	</author>
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 12/06/2009 02:32 AM, malenki wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; David Mohr wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; It is a wiki, so feel free to add your suggestion right on that page.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ok, so I'll get the 253rd account $somewhere to edit a line...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our wiki doesn't require an account to edit.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; May I suggest to use exifautotran instead though, it does not need any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; parameters, and figures the rotation out based on the exif data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That is only helpful when the camera stores the information with which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; orientation the picture was taken afaik.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;True. &amp;nbsp;Personally, I have a script that does:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jhead -ft -cmd &amp;quot;jpegtran -rotate $amount -outfile &amp;o &amp;i&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$file&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(The -ft just sets the file's mtime to the EXIF time.) &amp;nbsp;For people who
&lt;br&gt;do have correct embedded orientation info, you can also also do:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jhead -ft -autorot &amp;quot;$file&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -brian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26668630</id>
	<title>Re: New doc translation handling in terminal</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T12:24:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T12:24:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nick Schermer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/12/6 Nick Schermer &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26668630&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nickschermer@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; MM i forgot to say you can find this in the nick/docgen branch in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; terminal's git.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Works really well here, so i merged it in master to give it some wider
&lt;br&gt;testing. Will make a release in a couple of days if nothing serious
&lt;br&gt;appears.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26667186</id>
	<title>Re: [Xfce4-commits] &lt;terminal:master&gt; Register in Gnome's default  applications (bug #6020).</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T09:47:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T09:47:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nick Schermer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/12/6 Yves-Alexis Perez &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26667186&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;corsac@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On dim., 2009-12-06 at 12:48 +0000, Nick Schermer wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Updating branch refs/heads/master
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;          to 2c44ce88dff590536e29546f68994b0855326d0b (commit)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        from ed30d1acb8b472b6b0b937a7b40458c4fc127351 (commit)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; commit 2c44ce88dff590536e29546f68994b0855326d0b
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Author: Nick Schermer &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26667186&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nick@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Date:   Sun Dec 6 13:42:10 2009 +0100
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     Register in Gnome's default applications (bug #6020).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     When gnome-control-center is installed, install an xml file to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     register the Xfce Terminal Emulator.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I guess this will only work if gnome-control-center is installed at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; build time? Not sure it's really useful for distros, in that case (I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; won't add a build-dependency just for that).
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes. I could fall-back to the most-likely location
&lt;br&gt;($datadir/gnome-control-center/default-apps/), that will work for most
&lt;br&gt;distros...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26665784</id>
	<title>Re: [Xfce4-commits] &lt;terminal:master&gt; Register in Gnome's default applications (bug #6020).</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T07:08:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T07:08:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Yves-Alexis Perez-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On dim., 2009-12-06 at 12:48 +0000, Nick Schermer wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Updating branch refs/heads/master
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to 2c44ce88dff590536e29546f68994b0855326d0b (commit)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;from ed30d1acb8b472b6b0b937a7b40458c4fc127351 (commit)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; commit 2c44ce88dff590536e29546f68994b0855326d0b
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Author: Nick Schermer &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26665784&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nick@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: &amp;nbsp; Sun Dec 6 13:42:10 2009 +0100
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Register in Gnome's default applications (bug #6020).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When gnome-control-center is installed, install an xml file to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; register the Xfce Terminal Emulator.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I guess this will only work if gnome-control-center is installed at
&lt;br&gt;build time? Not sure it's really useful for distros, in that case (I
&lt;br&gt;won't add a build-dependency just for that).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Yves-Alexis
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26663663</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T02:32:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T02:32:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>malenki-2</name>
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	<content type="html">David Mohr wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It is a wiki, so feel free to add your suggestion right on that page.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, so I'll get the 253rd account $somewhere to edit a line...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; May I suggest to use exifautotran instead though, it does not need any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; parameters, and figures the rotation out based on the exif data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is only helpful when the camera stores the information with which
&lt;br&gt;orientation the picture was taken afaik.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;malenki
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26662414</id>
	<title>Re: User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T21:32:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T21:32:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Mohr-8</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:54 PM, malenki &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26662414&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;osm_@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; At the user defined action &amp;quot;Losslessly Rotating JPEGs&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in &lt;a href=&quot;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; command using jpegtran destroys all EXIF data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The script I am using for lossless rotating (no side effects registrered
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; up to now) looks like this:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; #!/bin/sh
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; #rotate images 270°
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for i;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; do renrot --only-orientation --no-rename --no-trim -r 270 &amp;quot;$i&amp;quot; ;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; done
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The jpegtran command at the wiki should be substituted with one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; using renrot I'd say...
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is a wiki, so feel free to add your suggestion right on that page.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;May I suggest to use exifautotran instead though, it does not need any
&lt;br&gt;parameters, and figures the rotation out based on the exif data. I
&lt;br&gt;haven't verified this, but I'm pretty sure that it retains the exif
&lt;br&gt;data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;~David
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26661271</id>
	<title>User Defined Action at Wiki destroys EXIF-data in jpg</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T16:54:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T16:54:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>malenki-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">At the user defined action &amp;quot;Losslessly Rotating JPEGs&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;in &lt;a href=&quot;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;the
&lt;br&gt;command using jpegtran destroys all EXIF data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The script I am using for lossless rotating (no side effects registrered
&lt;br&gt;up to now) looks like this:
&lt;br&gt;#!/bin/sh
&lt;br&gt;#rotate images 270°
&lt;br&gt;for i;
&lt;br&gt;do renrot --only-orientation --no-rename --no-trim -r 270 &amp;quot;$i&amp;quot; ;
&lt;br&gt;done
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The jpegtran command at the wiki should be substituted with one
&lt;br&gt;using renrot I'd say...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;malenki
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26660580</id>
	<title>Re: New doc translation handling in terminal</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T15:33:21Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T15:33:21Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nick Schermer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">MM i forgot to say you can find this in the nick/docgen branch in
&lt;br&gt;terminal's git.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://git.xfce.org/apps/terminal/log/?h=nick/docgen&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://git.xfce.org/apps/terminal/log/?h=nick/docgen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26659802</id>
	<title>Re: Session Management</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T14:08:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T14:08:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Jagoe</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Brian,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the reply,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;Brian J. Tarricone&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26659802&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: Session Management
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; that the best way of implementing session management (actually I just
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; want to clean up application resources on logout) is to use libexo. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That depends on what you mean by &amp;quot;session management&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;If all you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; care about is making sure your app gets started when the user logs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; just drop a .desktop file in the appropriate autostart directory.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yup, I'm starting my app like that. Without hooking into to X11R6 session management (XSMP I guess) my app dies due to IO error when the X server shuts down. Normally I guess that doesn't really matter, but my app fires off some subprocesses that I need to terminate because they lock system resources.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I don't think the exo python bindings are maintained, so you might be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on your own with them. &amp;nbsp;You might try looking for another X11R6-SM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; client implemented in (or wrapped by) python; anything that speaks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; X11R6 SM should work with xfce4-session.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, I'll have a look round further and see what I can find.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;David
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26658698</id>
	<title>New doc translation handling in terminal</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T11:57:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T11:57:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nick Schermer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've created a branch for terminal to handle the doc translations a
&lt;br&gt;bit different. Instead of manually adding the translated xml files
&lt;br&gt;from the submitted (using transifex) po files, it now build translated
&lt;br&gt;html pages (using the --enable-gen-doc configure option, requires
&lt;br&gt;xml2po and xsltproc). The dist tarball contains the translated html
&lt;br&gt;files, so distros don't need to do this and can install the docs
&lt;br&gt;directly. Translations that don't have &amp;quot;translated&amp;quot; images also
&lt;br&gt;symlink to the C images, using less disk space and making the tarball
&lt;br&gt;a lot smaller.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, would be nice if people can look at the code and this can move to
&lt;br&gt;master in a couple of days.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Nick
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	<title>Re: Unable to clone xfce4-volumed via git://</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T01:16:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T01:16:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jean-François Wauthy</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 10:01 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Looks like git-daemon-export-ok is missing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've created it, now git clone works fine here.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26639557</id>
	<title>Re: Unable to clone xfce4-volumed via git://</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T01:01:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T01:01:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Benedikt Meurer-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On Nov 29, 2009, at 09:57 , Christoph Mende wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This has been broken for several days with no response from IRC:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ~ % git clone git://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-volumed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Initialized empty Git repository in /home/angelos/xfce4-volumed/.git/
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The other repos work fine, only this one hangs up... cloning via http works
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like git-daemon-export-ok is missing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Benedikt
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26634360</id>
	<title>Re: Session Management</title>
	<published>2009-12-03T14:24:46Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-03T14:24:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian J. Tarricone-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 14:16, David Jagoe &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26634360&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;david.jagoe@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ahoy,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have written a PyGTK application that only runs on Xfce. It seems that the best way of implementing session management (actually I just want to clean up application resources on logout) is to use libexo. I see that python-exo is no longer maintained, so could anyone recommended a way of doing this in a PyGTK application? Is compiling python-exo the best way to go, or should I think about wrapping just a small part of libexo for use in Python? Or am I missing an easier way of doing this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That depends on what you mean by &amp;quot;session management&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;If all you
&lt;br&gt;care about is making sure your app gets started when the user logs in,
&lt;br&gt;just drop a .desktop file in the appropriate autostart directory.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you're looking for a way to maintain application state across
&lt;br&gt;restarts, there are various ways of doing this, one of them being
&lt;br&gt;using X11 SM. &amp;nbsp;You can also periodically checkpoint your app's state
&lt;br&gt;and just restart in the last saved state if the app is restarted for
&lt;br&gt;any reason. &amp;nbsp;It's a bit less clean than using SM, but should work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't think the exo python bindings are maintained, so you might be
&lt;br&gt;on your own with them. &amp;nbsp;You might try looking for another X11R6-SM
&lt;br&gt;client implemented in (or wrapped by) python; anything that speaks
&lt;br&gt;X11R6 SM should work with xfce4-session.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;-brian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26634293</id>
	<title>Session Management</title>
	<published>2009-12-03T14:16:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-03T14:16:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Jagoe</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Ahoy,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have written a PyGTK application that only runs on Xfce. It seems that the best way of implementing session management (actually I just want to clean up application resources on logout) is to use libexo. I see that python-exo is no longer maintained, so could anyone recommended a way of doing this in a PyGTK application? Is compiling python-exo the best way to go, or should I think about wrapping just a small part of libexo for use in Python? Or am I missing an easier way of doing this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;David
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26560238</id>
	<title>Unable to clone xfce4-volumed via git://</title>
	<published>2009-11-29T00:57:00Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-29T00:57:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Christoph Mende-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This has been broken for several days with no response from IRC:
&lt;br&gt;~ % git clone git://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-volumed
&lt;br&gt;Initialized empty Git repository in /home/angelos/xfce4-volumed/.git/
&lt;br&gt;fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other repos work fine, only this one hangs up... cloning via http works
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26539351</id>
	<title>Re: XFCE Translation</title>
	<published>2009-11-27T00:40:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-27T00:40:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Massonnet</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/11/26 St &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26539351&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dwqwt3i02@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;Mike Massonnet mmassonnet-at-gmail.com |Forums|&amp;quot; &amp;lt;...&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: &amp;lt;......................&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:13 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: XFCE Translation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/25 St &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26539351&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dwqwt3i02@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; About two weeks I left a request to participate in translations of some XFCE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; modules. It was not approved ever since. Will it ever be approved and should
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I mess with XFCE translation at all?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; What is your username, and what language are you going to translate?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; And please provide your first/last name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Username: UrmasD
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Language: Russian
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Real name: Aleksandr Ponomarenko
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have been added to the translators group and are now able to
&lt;br&gt;upload updated po files. Don't forget to update your profile with your
&lt;br&gt;real name otherwise the commits will fail.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I CC the current translators, it is very good to try to work close
&lt;br&gt;together and share the work. A team page can be created on the wiki[0]
&lt;br&gt;to keep common stuff and repetitive tasks for example.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.xfce.org/translations/language_maintainers&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.xfce.org/translations/language_maintainers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Mike
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26535055</id>
	<title>Re: XFCE Translation</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T13:24:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T13:24:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from dwqwt3i02@sneakemail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Mike Massonnet mmassonnet-at-gmail.com |Forums|&amp;quot; &amp;lt;...&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;lt;......................&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:13 PM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: XFCE Translation
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/25 St &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26535055&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dwqwt3i02@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; About two weeks I left a request to participate in translations of some XFCE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; modules. It was not approved ever since. Will it ever be approved and should
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I mess with XFCE translation at all?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What is your username, and what language are you going to translate?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And please provide your first/last name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Username: UrmasD
&lt;br&gt;Language: Russian
&lt;br&gt;Real name: Aleksandr Ponomarenko
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26527883</id>
	<title>Re: XFCE Translation</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T03:13:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T03:13:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Massonnet</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/11/25 St &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527883&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dwqwt3i02@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; About two weeks I left a request to participate in translations of some XFCE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; modules. It was not approved ever since. Will it ever be approved and should
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I mess with XFCE translation at all?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is your username, and what language are you going to translate?
&lt;br&gt;And please provide your first/last name.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Mike
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26519727</id>
	<title>Re: XFCE Translation</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T12:26:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T12:26:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Steve Dodier-2</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;
Hello,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;2009/11/25 St &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26519727&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dwqwt3i02@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
About two weeks I left a request to participate in translations of some XFCE modules. It was not approved ever since. Will it ever be approved and should I mess with XFCE translation at all?&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;These requests should be done in the xfce4-i18n mailing list. It&amp;#39;s possible that the person managing the rights on transifex was on holidays or accidentally forgot your email, you should just send it again, in my opinion. :)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;Steve Dodier&lt;br&gt;Student at École Nationale Supérieure d&amp;#39;Ingénieurs de Bourges&lt;br&gt;Free Software Developer&lt;br&gt;OpenPGP : 1B6B1670&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26519597</id>
	<title>XFCE Translation</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T12:09:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T12:09:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from dwqwt3i02@sneakemail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">About two weeks I left a request to participate in translations of some 
&lt;br&gt;XFCE modules. It was not approved ever since. Will it ever be approved 
&lt;br&gt;and should I mess with XFCE translation at all?
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26516825</id>
	<title>Tx update script</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T09:23:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T09:23:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Massonnet</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had like to know if there is any automated task to update the Tx
&lt;br&gt;statistics (either through cron or a git hook that keeps an eye for
&lt;br&gt;the template .pot files). If not, will it be possible to set it up?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.transifex.org/intro/running.html#automating-statistics-generation&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.transifex.org/intro/running.html#automating-statistics-generation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Mike
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26465066</id>
	<title>FOSDEM deadlines / my attendance</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T04:55:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T04:55:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jannis Pohlmann-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hey guys,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it looks like the deadline for devroom requests is today.
&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to prepare anything at all. It is
&lt;br&gt;also unclear whether I'll be able to attend this year. University and
&lt;br&gt;private things are keeping my busy and I'm not sure I'll be able to fit
&lt;br&gt;it in.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone else in for some last-minute action? ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Jannis
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26393781</id>
	<title>Re: Auke Away on Vacation 11-15 through 11-29</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T09:12:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T09:12:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alexandre Moreira</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Brian J. Tarricone &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26393781&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I guess I might point out that I'll be away as well: I'll be in Brazil
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; from the 22nd to the 30th of November.  I'll probably have my laptop and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some amount of internet access (I probably can't get away from the job
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that easily), but I'll be staying away from the computer as much as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; possible ^_~.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        -brian
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hah, I don't post here in a while, but I keep reading you guys and
&lt;br&gt;using Xfce, anyways.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just figured I'd drop by to say: I hope you enjoy your staying here
&lt;br&gt;in Brazil, Brian! Mind if I ask to which part of the country you're
&lt;br&gt;coming? I'm always curious as to what parts of it people from outside
&lt;br&gt;the country get to know ^_^
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Alexandre Moreira.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26375152</id>
	<title>Dropping python bindings in exo?</title>
	<published>2009-11-16T08:42:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-16T08:42:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nick Schermer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">For quite some time there are python bindings in exo, but to be
&lt;br&gt;honest, since Benny is not maintaining the package I have no idea if
&lt;br&gt;they actually work... let's say it builds...
&lt;br&gt;I'm not really comfortable with such code in a package I maintain,
&lt;br&gt;same for Jannis IIRC who also partly maintains exo.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If nobody steps up to maintain the python code (tests, port to new
&lt;br&gt;pyobject api, etc), I'm going to drop the python code or move it into
&lt;br&gt;the pyxfce package if Danny wants it. I don't know of any package
&lt;br&gt;using the exo python bindings and the Xfce core certainly doesn't use
&lt;br&gt;it, so personally I feel no need to put any time in it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, unless anyone had a good reason to keep the python code and nobody
&lt;br&gt;raises it's voice to maintain this code; python will disappear from
&lt;br&gt;exo.
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