tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-830Nabble - Xfce2009-11-10T09:04:14ZXfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources. Xfce home is <a href="http://xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">here</a>.tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26287204Re: xfce, suppr key, and motherboard bip .2009-11-10T09:04:14Z2009-11-10T09:04:14Zpatrick.2@laposte.netle Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:08:47 +0100
<br>Benjamin Voigt <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26287204&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">de_doener@...</a>> à écrit:
<br><br>> Hi, I always blacklist the pcspkr module to disable the system beep. How you
<br>> do that is distro specific, under gentoo (baselayout 2), I add the line
<br>> "blacklist pcspkr" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and run update-modules.
<br><br> Hi,
<br> In mandriva send it in blacklist-mdv file, and is ok. Great :)
<br> Thank you !
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<br><br>Xfce background manager don't show the last background from Mandriva 2010 or cooker by default.
<br>it share this folder : /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops ( by default )
<br>and not the mdk folder :
<br>/usr/share/mdk/backgrounds. How to add this folder in some config file ?
<br>if the background manager can show the two folder, it will be great .
<br>if you have some idea ? Thanks .
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<br>>
<br>> And then you have performance problems?
<br><br>Yes, I don't understand it ether, but 105 was much slower than 104 here.
<br>Unfortunately I cannot reproduce it any longer as I lost that particular
<br>USB key at OpenRheinRuhr last weekend. Not sure if it was hardware
<br>related or if something else changed in the meantime. Lets see what the
<br>other Fedora testers say.
<br><br>Regards,
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<br>Greg Folkert <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26285410&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">greg@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On 11/10/2009 08:16:33 AM, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
<br>> > I have always used ISO-8859-1 and I see no reasons to change...
<br>> > Just the way I have always installed Linux and never had any problems
<br>> > because of it until now... :)
<br>> >
<br>> > BTJ
<br>>
<br>> Ok, well the rest of the world has switched (is switching) to UTF-8, as
<br>> it supports many more things than the ISO Locale did. Things that
<br>> stopped us (the place i work) in our tracks and had to be hacked around
<br>> for years, now just simply work (Spanish, Russian and other character
<br>> inputs and sanitization).
<br>>
<br>> Don't be surprised when things you favor using just *STOP* working
<br>> properly soon. exo-mount is only the very tip of the huge iceberg
<br>> coming to get you.
<br>>
<br>> This is sort of analogous to the 'C' Locale. Sure it works most of the
<br>> time... but when it really matters, should you use it? (No is the
<br>> answer there)
<br>>
</div><br>Well, I have tried to convert to UTF a couple of times but I experienced too much trouble to make it worth it...
<br><br>BTJ
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Am Dienstag, den 10.11.2009, 14:38 +0100 schrieb Nick Schermer:
<br>>
<br>>> Could you compare the mount options set by hal between the two exo
<br>>> versions (should be visible in /media/.hal-mtab). Then I can fix it if
<br>>> it's an exo bug and release 106.
<br>>
<br>> 104:
<br>> /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/disk type vfat
<br>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=winnt,iocharset=utf8,uid=500)
<br>>
<br>> 105:
<br>> /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/disk type vfat
<br>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500,shortname=winnt,utf8)
<br>>
<br>> The vfat section in /etc/xdg/xfce4/mount.rc reads:
<br>> [vfat]
<br>> uid=<auto>
<br>> utf8=true
<br>> shortname=winnt
<br>> # FreeBSD specific option
<br>> longnames=true
</div><br>And then you have performance problems?
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<br><br>> Could you compare the mount options set by hal between the two exo
<br>> versions (should be visible in /media/.hal-mtab). Then I can fix it if
<br>> it's an exo bug and release 106.
<br><br>104:
<br>/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/disk type vfat
<br>(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=winnt,iocharset=utf8,uid=500)
<br><br>105:
<br>/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/disk type vfat
<br>(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500,shortname=winnt,utf8)
<br><br>The vfat section in /etc/xdg/xfce4/mount.rc reads:
<br>[vfat]
<br>uid=<auto>
<br>utf8=true
<br>shortname=winnt
<br># FreeBSD specific option
<br>longnames=true
<br><br>> Nick
<br><br>Regards,
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<br>> the reason I didn't push 105 to Fedora 11 was that 104 was reported to
<br>> actually fix their problems related to encodings by several testers.
<br>> They needed UTF-8 in order do be able to share data between Linux and
<br>> Windows.
<br><br>That can still be set, but in the rc file. If for example ntfs needs a
<br>charset, you can put charset=<auto> for using LC_CTYPE or a fixed
<br>encoding by putting charset=utf8 in the [ntfs] group (or only utf8,
<br>since it's a mount option too). This is more flexible since for
<br>example vfat with an utf8 charset is not recommended.
<br><br>> With 105 transfer rates are horrible low, even with the "Only sync
<br>> devices with no volume"-patch applied it takes 9 minutes for ~ 25 files
<br>> and 1,3 GB of data. The same USB key did the same in 90 seconds
<br>> previously.
<br><br>Could you compare the mount options set by hal between the two exo
<br>versions (should be visible in /media/.hal-mtab). Then I can fix it if
<br>it's an exo bug and release 106.
<br><br>Nick
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<br>> I have always used ISO-8859-1 and I see no reasons to change...
<br>> Just the way I have always installed Linux and never had any problems
<br>> because of it until now... :)
<br>>
<br>> BTJ
<br><br>Ok, well the rest of the world has switched (is switching) to UTF-8, as
<br>it supports many more things than the ISO Locale did. Things that
<br>stopped us (the place i work) in our tracks and had to be hacked around
<br>for years, now just simply work (Spanish, Russian and other character
<br>inputs and sanitization).
<br><br>Don't be surprised when things you favor using just *STOP* working
<br>properly soon. exo-mount is only the very tip of the huge iceberg
<br>coming to get you.
<br><br>This is sort of analogous to the 'C' Locale. Sure it works most of the
<br>time... but when it really matters, should you use it? (No is the
<br>answer there)
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<br>Christoph Wickert <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26283237&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">christoph.wickert@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Am Dienstag, den 10.11.2009, 13:25 +0100 schrieb Bjørn T Johansen:
<br>> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:11:03 +0100
<br>> > Christoph Wickert <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26283237&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">christoph.wickert@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> > > In order to debug this problem, please tell me what locales you are
<br>> > > using and what charset you want the stick to be mounted.
<br>> >
<br>> > The locales I am using is en_US.ISO-8859-1 and the charset I use is
<br>> > also ISO-8859-1 and want to use that for my sticks also..
<br>>
<br>> Why en_US.ISO-8859-1 and not en_US.UTF-8?
<br>>
<br>> Red Hat/Fedora switched to UTF-8 in Red Hat 8, this was back in 2002.
<br>> More than 7 years later, using ISO is not really a supported use case
<br>> any longer. You must have configured this manually
<br>> in /etc/sysconfig/i18n, because nether anaconda (the installer) nor
<br>> system-config-language will allow you to set ISO.
<br>>
<br>> > > And here is 105 for Fedora 11:
<br>> > > <a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571</a><br>> > > It's not yet in updates-testing, but will be tomorrow.
<br>>
<br>> For the record: This means you need to download the package to install
<br>> it. Once it's in updates-testing you can install it with
<br>> $ yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update exo
<br>>
<br>> > Please give us
<br>> > > some feedback at
<br>> > > <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11</a><br>> > >
<br>> > > Last but not least I'd like to ask you to report errors like this one to
<br>> > > bugzilla.redhat.com, because it makes tracking bugs and regressions
<br>> > > easier for us. TIA!
<br>> > >
<br>> >
<br>> > Ok, will try to remember that for the next time... :) Also, not sure
<br>> > if I will have time to do some thorough testing before you release 105
<br>> > but I'll see... Thx..
<br>>
<br>> Usually updates are sitting in updates-testing for 1-2 weeks, so you
<br>> should have enough of time.
<br>> If you really want to continue using ISO, you need to
<br>> edit /etc/xdg/xfce4/mount.rc and remove UTF-8 there. But please be aware
<br>> of the fact that you will run into trouble if you ever happen to have
<br>> any files not ISO encoded. Not sure if this is likely for somebody in
<br>> the US, but for the large majority of our users UTF-8 is the better
<br>> choice.
<br>>
<br>> > BTJ
<br>>
</div><br>I have always used ISO-8859-1 and I see no reasons to change...
<br>Just the way I have always installed Linux and never had any problems because of it until now... :)
<br><br>BTJ
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<br>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:11:03 +0100
<br>> Christoph Wickert <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26283154&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">christoph.wickert@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > In order to debug this problem, please tell me what locales you are
<br>> > using and what charset you want the stick to be mounted.
<br>>
<br>> The locales I am using is en_US.ISO-8859-1 and the charset I use is
<br>> also ISO-8859-1 and want to use that for my sticks also..
<br><br>Why en_US.ISO-8859-1 and not en_US.UTF-8?
<br><br>Red Hat/Fedora switched to UTF-8 in Red Hat 8, this was back in 2002.
<br>More than 7 years later, using ISO is not really a supported use case
<br>any longer. You must have configured this manually
<br>in /etc/sysconfig/i18n, because nether anaconda (the installer) nor
<br>system-config-language will allow you to set ISO.
<br><br>> > And here is 105 for Fedora 11:
<br>> > <a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571</a><br>> > It's not yet in updates-testing, but will be tomorrow.
<br><br>For the record: This means you need to download the package to install
<br>it. Once it's in updates-testing you can install it with
<br>$ yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update exo
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Please give us
<br>> > some feedback at
<br>> > <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11</a><br>> >
<br>> > Last but not least I'd like to ask you to report errors like this one to
<br>> > bugzilla.redhat.com, because it makes tracking bugs and regressions
<br>> > easier for us. TIA!
<br>> >
<br>>
<br>> Ok, will try to remember that for the next time... :) Also, not sure
<br>> if I will have time to do some thorough testing before you release 105
<br>> but I'll see... Thx..
</div><br>Usually updates are sitting in updates-testing for 1-2 weeks, so you
<br>should have enough of time.
<br>If you really want to continue using ISO, you need to
<br>edit /etc/xdg/xfce4/mount.rc and remove UTF-8 there. But please be aware
<br>of the fact that you will run into trouble if you ever happen to have
<br>any files not ISO encoded. Not sure if this is likely for somebody in
<br>the US, but for the large majority of our users UTF-8 is the better
<br>choice.
<br><br>> BTJ
<br><br>Regards,
<br>Christoph
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<br>Christoph Wickert <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26282515&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">christoph.wickert@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> >
<br>> > Oki, I downgraded the package for now and I will just wait until Fedora comes with version 105...
<br>> > Thx for the help though... :)
<br>>
<br>> Hi Bjørn,
<br>> first of all apologize, because I'm the one who pushed the update, but
<br>> according to several testers it was a good one.
<br>>
<br>> In order to debug this problem, please tell me what locales you are
<br>> using and what charset you want the stick to be mounted.
</div><br>The locales I am using is en_US.ISO-8859-1 and the charset I use is also ISO-8859-1 and want to use that for my sticks also..
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> And here is 105 for Fedora 11:
<br>> <a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571</a><br>> It's not yet in updates-testing, but will be tomorrow. Please give us
<br>> some feedback at
<br>> <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11</a><br>>
<br>> Last but not least I'd like to ask you to report errors like this one to
<br>> bugzilla.redhat.com, because it makes tracking bugs and regressions
<br>> easier for us. TIA!
<br>>
</div><br>Ok, will try to remember that for the next time... :) Also, not sure if I will have time to do some thorough testing before you release 105 but I'll
<br>see... Thx..
<br><br><br>BTJ
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<br>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:36:34 +0100
<br>> Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26282368&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in .bash_profile works fine here (after
<br>> > login). Anyway the real solution is updating to 105 or flag the
<br>> > package out-of-date on your distro.
<br><br>Hi Nick,
<br>the reason I didn't push 105 to Fedora 11 was that 104 was reported to
<br>actually fix their problems related to encodings by several testers.
<br>They needed UTF-8 in order do be able to share data between Linux and
<br>Windows.
<br>With 105 transfer rates are horrible low, even with the "Only sync
<br>devices with no volume"-patch applied it takes 9 minutes for ~ 25 files
<br>and 1,3 GB of data. The same USB key did the same in 90 seconds
<br>previously.
<br><br>> > Nick
<br>>
<br>> Oki, I downgraded the package for now and I will just wait until Fedora comes with version 105...
<br>> Thx for the help though... :)
<br><br>Hi Bjørn,
<br>first of all apologize, because I'm the one who pushed the update, but
<br>according to several testers it was a good one.
<br><br>In order to debug this problem, please tell me what locales you are
<br>using and what charset you want the stick to be mounted.
<br><br>And here is 105 for Fedora 11:
<br><a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140571</a><br>It's not yet in updates-testing, but will be tomorrow. Please give us
<br>some feedback at
<br><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exo-0.3.105-1.fc11</a><br><br>Last but not least I'd like to ask you to report errors like this one to
<br>bugzilla.redhat.com, because it makes tracking bugs and regressions
<br>easier for us. TIA!
<br><br>> BTJ
<br><br>Regards,
<br>Christoph
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<br><br>There are "developer" and "user" lists. The general (this) user mailing
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<br><br>Other related projects also sometimes have mailinglists, some of them
<br>are not hosted on foo-projects.org:
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<br><br><br>o Which Xfce user/project groups exist?
<br><br>+ The Xfce team - This is the main Xfce development group that develops
<br>the Xfce Desktop Environment. This group provides the core items of the
<br>Xfce desktop such as session manager, window manager, panel, Xfce
<br>libraries and such. This team also takes care of some Xfce applications
<br>such as Xfmedia, Orage, Xffm, thunar etc. -> <a href="http://xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xfce.org/</a><br><br>+ The Xfce i18n team - a enthusiastic group of translators from all
<br>over the world is working actively on updating and adding new translations
<br>to the Xfce components. -> <a href="http://i18n.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://i18n.xfce.org/</a><br><br>+ The Xfce Goodies group - Any 3rd-party Xfce application is considered
<br>an automatic member of the goodies team. The team shares a website at
<br><a href="http://goodies.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://goodies.xfce.org/</a> and hosts a public SVN repository. Everyone is
<br>welcome to contribute his Xfce application here!
<br><br>+ Individual Xfce projects - Many Xfce developers and enthusiasts have
<br>contributed or developed Xfce applications themselves. Some are too
<br>large (xfc -> <a href="http://xfc.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xfc.xfce.org/</a>, pyxfce -> <a href="http://pyxfce.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://pyxfce.xfce.org/</a>)
<br>to be a goody and have their own website. You can find all of them on
<br>the Xfce Directory (once it's finished!). -> <a href="http://directory.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://directory.xfce.org/</a><br><br><br>o So what if I need help?
<br><br>Getting help might be easier then you think. There's no phone number you
<br>can call for Xfce support but we do have a large group of people that
<br>are willing to help you in other ways. Here's a short list of them:
<br><br>Official documentation: <a href="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/</a><br>User Forum: <a href="http://forum.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://forum.xfce.org/</a><br>IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/#xfce
<br>Wiki: <a href="http://wiki.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.xfce.org/</a><br>Bugreports: <a href="http://bugzilla.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://bugzilla.xfce.org/</a><br>List archives: <a href="http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce</a><br><br>Other FAQ's exist and may prove useful to you:
<br><br><a href="http://www.spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfce4/index.php#faq" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfce4/index.php#faq</a><br><br><br>o I've read the websites and I still need help!
<br><br>Asking on a mailing list for help is hard: Everyone will read your
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<br><br><br>o Quoting style?
<br><br>It's very hard to understand a thread of messages if they become replies
<br>to replies and everyone mixes quoting styles. That's why there is
<br>something called "quoting style", that describes how you should quote
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<br><br>We prefer that you use "Top quoting". That means that you should put
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<br>you can read the entire message thread without figuring out where the
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<br><br>Here's a good FAQ on how to quote:
<br><br><a href="http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html</a><br><br>Basically:
<br><br>+ quote at the top
<br>+ prune text from the quote that is irrelevant
<br>+ remove footers and headers (condense)
<br>+ put the reply directly next to (in between) the original text
<br><br><br>o What about you guys?
<br><br>Well we're just a bunch of geeks (we need girls) who like Xfce... Most
<br>of us work on Xfce outside of our normal daily occupation such as real
<br>work or real study (except some lucky people who do both). If you're
<br>interested in getting to know the Xfce team a bit closer (and are okay
<br>with a little abuse, being teased or ignored etc) you're welcome to join
<br>us on our IRC channel (#xfce on the freenode IRC network) or read our
<br>blogs. This might not always be about Xfce but that's life. ->
<br><a href="http://blog.xfce.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xfce.org/</a><br><br><br>o Most commonly asked questions
<br><br>There are a few questions that get asked much more often then any other.
<br>We hope we can provide you with the information here to find out for
<br>yourself how to find more information about them.
<br><br>+ How can I start up applications (to a specific desktop | when I lauch
<br>Xfce)?
<br><br>Use the session-manager. If you still have problems with some
<br>applications not behaving or remembering their desktop number then you
<br>might consider using "devilspie". You can add links to applications in
<br>~/Desktop/Autostart, but the session-manager also remembers which
<br>applications you had running when you last logged out (and saved your
<br>session!), and will start them again (so don't close your applications
<br>before logging out!)
<br><br>+ Can I replace Xfce program X with my favorite program Y?
<br><br>Yes, you can. Xfce is developed with the idea of modularity in mind in
<br>all components. This means that you can replace xfwm4 with another
<br>window manager, replace xfdesktop with rox or idesk, or even nautilus.
<br>Most of the times you can just kill the xfce component and start the
<br>application you want to run instead, and use the session manager to
<br>save your session when you exit.
<br><br>+ How can I shutdown my computer in Xfce?
<br><br>Read
<br><a href="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-shutdown" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-shutdown</a><br><br>+ Can I install multiple Xfce versions concurrently?
<br><br>You can actually, but it's a nightmare if you install one of them in a
<br>system-default location. The best thing to do is to install every Xfce
<br>version in a non-system location like /opt/xfce/$(XFCE_VERSION) and
<br>adjust your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH to point to the preferred version
<br>at run time.
<br><br>+ My desktop or desktop menu has disappeared!?
<br><br>It appears that xfdesktop is no longer in control of the desktop. Often
<br>xfdesktop has died, or some other program took over the desktop. Make
<br>sure that xfdesktop is still running first. Nautilus takes over the
<br>desktop by default too. Please start nautilus with the --no-desktop
<br>flag, or use gconf-editor and unset the flag that tells nautilus to
<br>handle the desktop (/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop). Start
<br>xfdesktop again and you should be OK again.
<br><br>+ How do I edit the system application menu?
<br><br>The menu is partially autogenerated by xfdesktop. If you want to just
<br>delete or add one or two applications, add the proper .desktop file
<br>(usually in /usr/share/applications). With the xfce4-menueditor, you can
<br>completely customize the menu.
<br><br>+ What other (hidden) settings exist?
<br><br>A lot. Take a look into the manual for hidden settings for each
<br>component.
<br><a href="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#hidden_options" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#hidden_options</a><br><a href="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-kiosk" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-kiosk</a><br><br>+ Where can I get Xfce packages for XXX?
<br><br>The up-to-date list of other packages is found on our website and includes
<br>links to debian, suse, freebsd etc. packages for Xfce. Please visit:
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<br>Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279529&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/10 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279529&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> >> That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>> >> a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>> >> is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>> >> startxfce4.
<br>> >>
<br>> >> ~David
<br>> >
<br>> > Oki, added it at top of the startxfce4 file but still the same... :-|
<br>>
<br>> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in .bash_profile works fine here (after
<br>> login). Anyway the real solution is updating to 105 or flag the
<br>> package out-of-date on your distro.
<br>>
<br>> Nick
</div><br>Oki, I downgraded the package for now and I will just wait until Fedora comes with version 105...
<br>Thx for the help though... :)
<br><br>BTJ
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<br>>> That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>>> a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>>> is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>>> startxfce4.
<br>>>
<br>>> ~David
<br>>
<br>> Oki, added it at top of the startxfce4 file but still the same... :-|
<br><br>export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in .bash_profile works fine here (after
<br>login). Anyway the real solution is updating to 105 or flag the
<br>package out-of-date on your distro.
<br><br>Nick
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:13:42 -0700
<br>> David Mohr <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279431&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">squisher@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> 2009/11/10 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279431&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0100
<br>>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279431&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> >
<br>>> >> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279431&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>>> >> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>>> >> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279431&i=5" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> >> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>>> >> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>>> >> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>>> >> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>>> >> >>
<br>>> >> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>>> >> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>>> >>
<br>>> >> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>>> >>
<br>>> >> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>>> >>
<br>>> >> Nick
<br>>> >> _______________________________________________
<br>>> >
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Running that command works.... :-|
<br>>>
<br>>> That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>>> a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>>> is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>>> startxfce4.
<br>>>
<br>>> ~David
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Well, this is not correct... I have exported the variable in /etc/profile and running set | grep EXO shows:
<br>>
<br>> $ set | grep EXO
<br>> EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET=
<br>> $
<br>>
<br>> So I am shure the varible is set...
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> BTJ
</div><br>use: export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET=
<br>if the variable isn't exported it only exists in the script.
<br><br>Regards,
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<br>> Is there any way to get the xfce terminal to have different colors
<br>> based on, well, whatever? The color prefs seem to set it for all
<br>> instances of the terminal.
<br><br>This is not possible (yet).
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<br>David Mohr <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279372&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">squisher@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/10 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279372&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0100
<br>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279372&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> >> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279372&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> >> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>> >> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279372&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>> >> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>> >> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>> >> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>> >> >>
<br>> >> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>> >> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>> >>
<br>> >> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>> >>
<br>> >> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>> >>
<br>> >> Nick
<br>> >> _______________________________________________
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > Running that command works.... :-|
<br>>
<br>> That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>> a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>> is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>> startxfce4.
<br>>
<br>> ~David
</div><br>Oki, added it at top of the startxfce4 file but still the same... :-|
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
<br>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 04:29, Jannis Pohlmann <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279369&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">jannis@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>>>> - can not use my custom JPG file as desktop background as I used to -
<br>>>>> stock files seem to work just fine, FWIW they are PNG though
<br>>>> As Christoph mentioned earlier, this might be related to the
<br>>>> dependencies GTK+ was build with. GTK+ (and thus all Xfce apps) uses
<br>>>> GdkPixbuf to load images. GdkPixbuf is part of GTK+ and ships loaders
<br>>>> for several image formats that are enabled/disabled depending on the
<br>>>> libraries that are present at build time. So you might want to
<br>>>> recompile GTK+ with JPEG support. This doesn't sound like a problem
<br>>>> with xfdesktop itself.
<br>>>
<br>>> Especially if this guy is on Gentoo like I believe he stated -- there
<br>>> was recently a move from the years-long-stable libjpeg6 to libjpeg7.
<br>>> Likely the OP just didn't properly rebuild all reverse-dependencies.
<br>>>
<br>>
<br>> After adding jpeg2k support and rebuilding gtk+ I can load JPG files as
<br>> desktop images too.
</div><br>Just for completeness' sake, jpeg2k is a completely different file
<br>format and has nothing to do with the regular jpeg images that I
<br>assume you use as background images. So the fix would have been
<br>recompiling, as Brian explained already..
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 04:29, Jannis Pohlmann <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279332&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">jannis@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>>> - can not use my custom JPG file as desktop background as I used to -
<br>>>> stock files seem to work just fine, FWIW they are PNG though
<br>>> As Christoph mentioned earlier, this might be related to the
<br>>> dependencies GTK+ was build with. GTK+ (and thus all Xfce apps) uses
<br>>> GdkPixbuf to load images. GdkPixbuf is part of GTK+ and ships loaders
<br>>> for several image formats that are enabled/disabled depending on the
<br>>> libraries that are present at build time. So you might want to
<br>>> recompile GTK+ with JPEG support. This doesn't sound like a problem
<br>>> with xfdesktop itself.
<br>>
<br>> Especially if this guy is on Gentoo like I believe he stated -- there
<br>> was recently a move from the years-long-stable libjpeg6 to libjpeg7.
<br>> Likely the OP just didn't properly rebuild all reverse-dependencies.
<br>>
</div><br>After adding jpeg2k support and rebuilding gtk+ I can load JPG files as
<br>desktop images too.
<br><br>Best regards,
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<br>Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:13:42 -0700
<br>> David Mohr <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">squisher@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > 2009/11/10 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0100
<br>> > > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> > >
<br>> > >> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > >> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>> > >> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279280&i=5" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> > >> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>> > >> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>> > >> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>> > >> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>> > >> >>
<br>> > >> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>> > >> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>> > >>
<br>> > >> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>> > >>
<br>> > >> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>> > >>
<br>> > >> Nick
<br>> > >> _______________________________________________
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Running that command works.... :-|
<br>> >
<br>> > That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>> > a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>> > is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>> > startxfce4.
<br>> >
<br>> > ~David
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Well, this is not correct... I have exported the variable in /etc/profile and running set | grep EXO shows:
<br>>
<br>> $ set | grep EXO
<br>> EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET=
<br>> $
<br>>
<br>> So I am shure the varible is set...
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> BTJ
</div><br><br>Might have been a bit quick... Does this mean that /etc/profile is not read before it is too late?
<br>I'll try to add it to startxfce4..
<br><br>BTJ
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<br>David Mohr <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279264&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">squisher@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/10 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279264&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0100
<br>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279264&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> >> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279264&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> >> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>> >> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279264&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>> >> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>> >> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>> >> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>> >> >>
<br>> >> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>> >> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>> >>
<br>> >> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>> >>
<br>> >> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>> >>
<br>> >> Nick
<br>> >> _______________________________________________
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > Running that command works.... :-|
<br>>
<br>> That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>> a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>> is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>> startxfce4.
<br>>
<br>> ~David
</div><br><br>Well, this is not correct... I have exported the variable in /etc/profile and running set | grep EXO shows:
<br><br>$ set | grep EXO
<br>EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET=
<br>$
<br><br>So I am shure the varible is set...
<br><br><br>BTJ
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0100
<br>> Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279224&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279224&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279224&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>>> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>>> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>>> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>>> >>
<br>>> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>>> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>>>
<br>>> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>>>
<br>>> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>>>
<br>>> Nick
<br>>> _______________________________________________
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Running that command works.... :-|
</div><br>That pretty much means that you did not export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET in
<br>a place where it was read before Terminal was started. I.e. ~/.profile
<br>is often not read before Xfce is started. I'd suggest hacking
<br>startxfce4.
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<br>Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279133&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279133&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26279133&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>> >> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>> >> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>> >> disable the charset bug.
<br>> >>
<br>> > Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>> > I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br>>
<br>> That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br>>
<br>> $EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br>>
<br>> Nick
<br>> _______________________________________________
</div><br><br>Running that command works.... :-|
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<br>based on, well, whatever? The color prefs seem to set it for all
<br>instances of the terminal.
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<br>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 15:02, Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26273087&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> 2009/11/4 Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26273087&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>>:
<br>>>> I pushed my idea of the new api to the nick/spawn-child-watch branch.
<br>>>> There is also a nick/uca-startup-notification branch in thunar to show
<br>>>> how this would work in the real world.
<br><br>Any comments? Better ideas?
<br><br>Nick
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<br>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100
<br>> Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26272404&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>>> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>>> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>>> disable the charset bug.
<br>>>
<br>> Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>> I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br><br>That is weird, you could try running exo-mount in a terminal, something like
<br><br>$EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" exo-mount -d /dev/sdb1
<br><br>Nick
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<br><br>> There was a bug in xfdesktop or xfce4-sesession that caused some
<br>> applications (and xfdesktop in particular) to be started several (up to
<br>> a few dozen) times. I think that was fixed but I'm not sure the fix was
<br>> part of the 4.6.1 release. Brian?
<br><br>Not unless someone else fixed it. Oddly, no one's been complaining
<br>about it for some time, though.
<br><br>>> - log in takes far more time then before the 4.6.1 upgrade,
<br>>
<br>> Hmm, not sure about this one. Again, we had a bug slowing the login
<br>> process down dramatically (took up to 20+ seconds on some machines). We
<br>> fixed that too, but I'd have to look at the revision log to check
<br>> *when* it was fixed.
<br><br>One problem related to slow login was fixed (xfce4-settings-helper
<br>causing SM timeouts), but sometimes I still get a slow login too.
<br>Haven't had a chance to look into it.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> - can not use my custom JPG file as desktop background as I used to -
<br>>> stock files seem to work just fine, FWIW they are PNG though
<br>>
<br>> As Christoph mentioned earlier, this might be related to the
<br>> dependencies GTK+ was build with. GTK+ (and thus all Xfce apps) uses
<br>> GdkPixbuf to load images. GdkPixbuf is part of GTK+ and ships loaders
<br>> for several image formats that are enabled/disabled depending on the
<br>> libraries that are present at build time. So you might want to
<br>> recompile GTK+ with JPEG support. This doesn't sound like a problem
<br>> with xfdesktop itself.
</div><br>Especially if this guy is on Gentoo like I believe he stated -- there
<br>was recently a move from the years-long-stable libjpeg6 to libjpeg7.
<br>Likely the OP just didn't properly rebuild all reverse-dependencies.
<br><br> -brian
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<br>Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26271831&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26271831&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:28:56 +0100
<br>> > Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26271831&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> >> Exo version?
<br>> >>
<br>> >> Nick
<br>> >
<br>> > Name : exo
<br>> > Arch : x86_64
<br>> > Version : 0.3.104
<br>> > Release : 1.fc11
<br>>
<br>> There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>> Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>> export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>> disable the charset bug.
<br>>
<br>> Nick
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</div><br><br>Tried setting the environment variable but still get the same error...
<br>I'll see if I can find a newer version of exo somewhere...
<br><br><br>Thx...
<br><br><br>BTJ
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:28:56 +0100
<br>> Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26271304&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> Exo version?
<br>>>
<br>>> Nick
<br>>
<br>> Name : exo
<br>> Arch : x86_64
<br>> Version : 0.3.104
<br>> Release : 1.fc11
</div><br>There is a bug in 104, you should use 105 which is a lot better.
<br>Anyway, as a workaround you can put
<br>export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile somewhere, that will
<br>disable the charset bug.
<br><br>Nick
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<br>Nick Schermer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26270854&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nickschermer@...</a>> wrote:
<br><br>> Exo version?
<br>>
<br>> Nick
<br><br>Name : exo
<br>Arch : x86_64
<br>Version : 0.3.104
<br>Release : 1.fc11
<br><br><br>BTJ
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<br><br>Nick
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<br>David Mohr <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26270209&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">squisher@...</a>> wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> 2009/11/9 Bjørn T Johansen <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26270209&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">btj@...</a>>:
<br>> > Not sure what has happend, but some update "broke" thunar-volman. When I plug in a memory card now, I only get the following error:
<br>> >
<br>> > FAT: IO charset ISO-8859-1 not found
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > But mounting the card as root works ok...
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > Is there a way to configure which charset thunar-volman should use when mounting?
<br>>
<br>> This is just a guess, but have you tried to generate that locale on
<br>> you system? Maybe that would help.
<br>>
<br>> ~David
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</div><br><br><br>As I said, mounting this manually works as it should... It's only the automount that thunar does, that fails... Also, ISO-8859-1 is the default locale
<br>on my PC and is working as it should for all other programs...
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<br>> Not sure what has happend, but some update "broke" thunar-volman. When I plug in a memory card now, I only get the following error:
<br>>
<br>> FAT: IO charset ISO-8859-1 not found
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> But mounting the card as root works ok...
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Is there a way to configure which charset thunar-volman should use when mounting?
<br><br>This is just a guess, but have you tried to generate that locale on
<br>you system? Maybe that would help.
<br><br>~David
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<br><br>> Should I mention that I have external monitor attached to my notebook
<br>> (the machine I'm talking about the whole time)? I don't see any major
<br>> difference when logging in with or without the external monitor, but
<br>> nevertheless..
<br>>
<br><br>I don't know whether it is related, but I've experiencing problems
<br>with my Xfce desktop as well whenever I attach a data projector to it.
<br>Startup of Xfce takes ages, with a lot of flickering going on which I
<br>don't see otherwise. As a result, the resolution on my laptop and on
<br>the data projector are set incorrectly as X may attempt to set both at
<br>the same resolution, failing miserably. OpenOffice display is reduced
<br>to a pile of rubbish, with the menu entries set to font sizes of
<br>apparently 72 or so, leaving it entirely inoperable. BTW my laptop has
<br>a 1280x800 screen, whereas most data projectors use 1024x768. I
<br>suspect that these difficulties are in fact X.org, or video driver
<br>problems, which only indirectly affect Xfce startup.
<br><br>These are just wild guesses as I'm not knowledgeable enough to debug this.
<br><br>regards,
<br>Markus
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