absolute beginner to the linux world

[mike pop]

i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.

As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server.  I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.  

Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated.  Everything will take place via email.  I realize your time is worth money too.

I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server.  Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8.  I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.

That was my first dilemma.  My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.

Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?

For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.

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[David Henry-2]

Mike,

Ooh, this sounds like fun.

Have you purchased any hardware or are you starting from scratch?
How much traffic do you need to handle?
What kind of CF application are you planning to build?
How much time do you have to get all of this in place?

Another gotcha:
Linux file system is CaSe sensitive.

David

mike pop wrote:

> i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.
>
> As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server.  I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.  
>
> Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated.  Everything will take place via email.  I realize your time is worth money too.
>
> I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server.  Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8.  I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.
>
> That was my first dilemma.  My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
>
> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
>
> For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
>
>

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[Dave Watts]

> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:06, mike pop <mikepoplawski@...> wrote:

Are you the Mike Poplawski I used to know?

> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I
> thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8
> (Linux)?

There really aren't any significant differences, believe it or not!

As David mentioned, Linux filesystems are case-sensitive, so any
references to specific files need to keep that in mind. Also, the
files Application.cfc, Application.cfm and OnRequestEnd.cfm need to be
named just like that to be found on a case-sensitive filesystem.

You can't use MS Access datasources from Linux, but pretty much
everything else with regard to datasources is the same.

CF runs very reliably on Linux, in my experience.

The biggest problem is initial configuration, especially permissions.
Default permissions on Windows are quite lax, but on Linux and Unix in
general, you have to know what things need what permissions. That
said, it's pretty easy to set this up. If you grant the CF user
account full permissions over the CF install directory (typically
/opt/coldfusion if I recall correctly) and read permissions over the
web root directory, that'll let CF pages run. If you need CF to write
to parts of the web root, you'll need to set permissions accordingly
there as well. You use chmod from the command line to do this; you'll
have learned all about chmod if you set up a Linux server.

Good luck!

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[Adrian Moreno]

I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and Linux. Check out

http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux

The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux" shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of details for installing CF on Linux.

If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books starting here:
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X

In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.

HTH,

Adrian

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From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world

i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.

As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server.  I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.  

Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated.  Everything will take place via email.  I realize your time is worth money too.

I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server.  Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8.  I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.

That was my first dilemma.  My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.

Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?

For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.



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[David Henry-2]

I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux experience.


Adrian Moreno wrote:

> I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and Linux. Check out
>
> http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux
>
> The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux" shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of details for installing CF on Linux.
>
> If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books starting here:
> http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X
>
> In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.
>
> HTH,
>
> Adrian
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
> Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world
>
> i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.
>
> As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server.  I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.  
>
> Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated.  Everything will take place via email.  I realize your time is worth money too.
>
> I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server.  Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8.  I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.
>
> That was my first dilemma.  My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
>
> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
>
> For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
>
>
>
>

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[Dave-195]

Why is that?  Ubuntu Server x64 works great.  If you're machine's
architecture is 64 bit there's no reason not to take advantage of the extra
power.Dave


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM, David Henry <
davidhenry@...> wrote:

>
> I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux
> experience.
>
>
> Adrian Moreno wrote:
> > I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and
> Linux. Check out
> >
> > http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux
> >
> > The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux"
> shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide
> should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of
> details for installing CF on Linux.
> >
> > If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books
> starting here:
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X
> >
> > In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated
> at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
> > To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
> > Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world
> >
> > i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and
> an undetermined database server.
> >
> > As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the
> cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server.  I would like
> some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.
> >
> > Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be
> compensated.  Everything will take place via email.  I realize your time is
> worth money too.
> >
> > I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server.  Second, I
> would like some mentoring with CF8.  I need a little more than internet
> tutorials or books.
> >
> > That was my first dilemma.  My second dilemma is writing an application
> in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
> >
> > Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows)
> different than Cold Fusion (Linux).  I thought Linux uses forward slashes as
> opposed to back slashes.  What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
> >
> > For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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On Monday 27 Apr 2009, David Henry wrote:
> I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux
> experience.

For a desktop, I'd agree.
For a server, I wouldn't.
For developing on, I'm not sure yet :-)

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