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abuse report management systemHi,
I am now working for a small telco in Poland (dozens of /24 ,/23 and /22 prefixes and one /16 class). Several months ago we began having problems with our customers and abuse reports generated on the basis of their spam sending practices.. We are receiving tons of abuse reports . Customers were always notified about the issue and if problem was not resolved , they were cutoff. Problem began when amount of abuse reports from other networks rose up to several reports per day. Does anybody know any free or opensource system that could help us dealing with those abuse reports (trapping abuse@... mails and sending notification to clients)?? regards. -- Wojciech Ziniewicz http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc2324.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemOn 11 Aug 2009, at 13:44, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: > Does anybody know any free or opensource system that could help us > dealing with those abuse reports (trapping abuse@... mails and > sending notification to clients)?? This is dangerous, you wouldn't want your customers to see the original abuse request, and you wouldn't like outsiders to be able to cut off your customers by filing invented abuse emails that trigger the threshold in your automated system. Serious allegations need to be checked with the use of, for example, netflow records, and you may require to build a different process based on messages from law enforcement agencies or similar. Abuse handling is a specialist skill and should be done by humans. -- Regards, Andy Davidson +44 (0)20 7993 1700 www.netsumo.com NetSumo Ltd, Specialist networks consultancy for ISPs, Whitelabel 24/7 NOC /* Opinions are my own and & may not constitute policy of any org I work for */ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management system2009/8/11 Andy Davidson <andy@...>:
> This is dangerous, you wouldn't want your customers to see the original > abuse request, and you wouldn't like outsiders to be able to cut off your > customers by filing invented abuse emails that trigger the threshold in your > automated system. Serious allegations need to be checked with the use of, > for example, netflow records, and you may require to build a different > process based on messages from law enforcement agencies or similar. > > Abuse handling is a specialist skill and should be done by humans. I dont want any of theese. What i want is a system that will trap abuse emails and notify me when certain client reaches the trigger of let's say 10 abuse emails per month. Then i would analyze the records and decide about warning him about the sittuation and finally possibly cutting him of. We often do such things to our bussiness customers - if they send tons of spam using our ip addrs we can cut them off after 2 warnings (in Poland sending spam is a crime) . regards. WZ -- Wojciech Ziniewicz http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc2324.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemprocmail, arffilter (http://wordtothewise.com/products/arffilter.html),
perl, mysql We use procmail to filter the inbound messages through 'arffilter' (to read ARF - formatted attachments/messages) which then goes on to a perl script that fetches certain header information. Then we process it daily and watch for spikes, new sources, etc. I agree that a human need examine the content and make final decisions, as the subject lines and formatting of various organizations' abuse complaints vary wildly. You'll be constantly amending your procmail rules and modifying your perl scripts. The only affordable system I've seen out there is Word to the Wise's Abacus system. I'm sure Remedy or something similar has a product, but as far as open source, I'm not sure. Aaron Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: > 2009/8/11 Andy Davidson <andy@...>: >> This is dangerous, you wouldn't want your customers to see the original >> abuse request, and you wouldn't like outsiders to be able to cut off your >> customers by filing invented abuse emails that trigger the threshold in your >> automated system. Serious allegations need to be checked with the use of, >> for example, netflow records, and you may require to build a different >> process based on messages from law enforcement agencies or similar. >> >> Abuse handling is a specialist skill and should be done by humans. > > I dont want any of theese. > What i want is a system that will trap abuse emails and notify me when > certain client reaches the trigger of let's say 10 abuse emails per > month. Then i would analyze the records and decide about warning him > about the sittuation and finally possibly cutting him of. We often do > such things to our bussiness customers - if they send tons of spam > using our ip addrs we can cut them off after 2 warnings (in Poland > sending spam is a crime) . > > regards. > WZ > > > -- Aaron Thoreson Network Group Midcontinent Communications aaront@... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemAaron Thoreson wrote:
> procmail, arffilter (http://wordtothewise.com/products/arffilter.html), > perl, mysql > > We use procmail to filter the inbound messages through 'arffilter' (to > read ARF - formatted attachments/messages) which then goes on to a perl > script that fetches certain header information. Then we process it > daily and watch for spikes, new sources, etc. I agree that a human need > examine the content and make final decisions, as the subject lines and > formatting of various organizations' abuse complaints vary wildly. > You'll be constantly amending your procmail rules and modifying your > perl scripts. > > The only affordable system I've seen out there is Word to the Wise's > Abacus system. I'm sure Remedy or something similar has a product, but > as far as open source, I'm not sure. Please don't kill me for this but we offer this capability with MPP. It is not open source but affordable. We can do all kinds of custom processing based on email content. M Katz http://mailspect.com > > Aaron > > Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: >> 2009/8/11 Andy Davidson <andy@...>: >>> This is dangerous, you wouldn't want your customers to see the original >>> abuse request, and you wouldn't like outsiders to be able to cut off >>> your >>> customers by filing invented abuse emails that trigger the threshold >>> in your >>> automated system. Serious allegations need to be checked with the >>> use of, >>> for example, netflow records, and you may require to build a different >>> process based on messages from law enforcement agencies or similar. >>> >>> Abuse handling is a specialist skill and should be done by humans. >> >> I dont want any of theese. >> What i want is a system that will trap abuse emails and notify me when >> certain client reaches the trigger of let's say 10 abuse emails per >> month. Then i would analyze the records and decide about warning him >> about the sittuation and finally possibly cutting him of. We often do >> such things to our bussiness customers - if they send tons of spam >> using our ip addrs we can cut them off after 2 warnings (in Poland >> sending spam is a crime) . >> >> regards. >> WZ >> >> >> > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemHello Wojciech,
Am 2009-08-11 15:13:21, schrieb Wojciech Ziniewicz: > What i want is a system that will trap abuse emails and notify me when > certain client reaches the trigger of let's say 10 abuse emails per > month. I do this already using a procmail script, which spider the Body if an E-Mail is attached and try to get the Received: header and analyse it. Because the sending IP is associated (timely) with a customer, I know perfectly which customer was on which dynamic IP and ... So you could do the same... if I encounter an unknown Mail-Agent: or nothing, I trigger immediately because maybe it is a trojan or something like this. For the new ISP i am in creation, I am blocking the port 25 and 589 and force standard users to pass over my SMTP-Proxy. However, users which there own proper SMTP-Relays can reconfigure the two ports. > Then i would analyze the records and decide about warning him > about the sittuation and finally possibly cutting him of. We often do > such things to our bussiness customers - if they send tons of spam > using our ip addrs we can cut them off after 2 warnings (in Poland > sending spam is a crime) . So you have the right to shootem? ;-) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### <http://www.tamay-dogan.net/> Michelle Konzack <http://www.can4linux.org/> Apt. 917 <http://www.flexray4linux.org/> 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4michelle@... 67100 Strabourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ #328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193 |
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RE: abuse report management systemGreetings all,
> -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Thoreson [mailto:aaront@...] > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:19 AM > To: debian-isp@... > Subject: Re: abuse report management system > > procmail, arffilter > (http://wordtothewise.com/products/arffilter.html), > perl, mysql Also add RTIR - http://bestpractical.com/rtir/ > Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: > > 2009/8/11 Andy Davidson <andy@...>: > >> This is dangerous, you wouldn't want your customers > to see the original > >> abuse request, and you wouldn't like outsiders to be > able to cut off your > >> customers by filing invented abuse emails that > trigger the threshold in your > >> automated system. Serious allegations need to be > checked with the use of, > >> for example, netflow records, and you may require to > build a different > >> process based on messages from law enforcement > agencies or similar. > >> > >> Abuse handling is a specialist skill and should be > done by humans. > > Agreed - this is the responsibility of a proven responsible, capable person as operations are routinely in the grey area not defined while ultimately managing ~<20% of an organizations client portfolio. The complainant should be acknowledged with a comforting note your organization received the complaint and would receive feedback if additional information is required - I would highly advise _not_ including a copy of the original complaint for security/ethical reasons. The individuals addressing these issues need to conceal the complainant's and client's information between all correspondences (everyone gets messy when a food fight breaks out). Under any approach, being positively infectious with all communications is a must (who is not a customer today might be tomorrow and you wouldn't want to erase your current customers on a whim). > > I dont want any of theese. > > What i want is a system that will trap abuse emails > and notify me when > > certain client reaches the trigger of let's say 10 > abuse emails per > > month. Then i would analyze the records and decide > about warning him > > about the sittuation and finally possibly cutting him > of. We often do > > such things to our bussiness customers - if they send > tons of spam > > using our ip addrs we can cut them off after 2 > warnings (in Poland > > sending spam is a crime) . You will need a reporting system capable of tracking your customers over a vast period of time while keeping all of your records available. Information is like gold. Every complaint should be associated to a client (telecom services are a penny in the bank to spam operations) and the client's service if multiple services are rendered (they may resell and obtained a questionable client themselves). The reporting system is going to be a custom fit for the purpose, individuals utilizing, and organizational demands -- include charts and other aids to assist those who would not otherwise fully understand. Bests, Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemOn Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:
> Does anybody know any free or opensource system that could help us > dealing with those abuse reports (trapping abuse@... mails and > sending notification to clients)?? Yes, OTRS can do it. Request-tracker can also do it. They can do a lot more, though (they're full ticket-based request tracking systems). All of them will require some manual intervention. OTRS helps you send template-based replies, which could help speed up the request processing. I don't know if RT (request tracker) can do that. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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Re: abuse report management systemOn Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Henrique de Moraes
Holschuh<hmh@...> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: >> Does anybody know any free or opensource system that could help us >> dealing with those abuse reports (trapping abuse@... mails and >> sending notification to clients)?? > > Yes, OTRS can do it. Request-tracker can also do it. They can do a lot > more, though (they're full ticket-based request tracking systems). > > All of them will require some manual intervention. OTRS helps you send > template-based replies, which could help speed up the request processing. I > don't know if RT (request tracker) can do that. We use OTRS and have been using it for years. I was interested in migrating to RT since it has a nicer interface. After using RT in testing for a while, I decided that I really liked OTRS much better. It might not be as pretty, but it's definitely got a huge number of features and feels better-written than RT. Just as an example: in RT you start with a ticket ID (usually #1) and it goes up from there. We use OTRS on several servers and need the ticket IDs to be unique across them. It supports a "server ID" embedded in the ticket ID to deal with this. Also, if you want the ticket IDs to be randomized or time-based, you can do that easily. In RT, you have to hack the code to make it work. We do all kinds of hackish things with OTRS that were never intended to be done. Plus it's fully integrated in our billing and accounting systems, so we don't have to do dual-entry. It does a great job of keeping track of time and people. And if you really don't like the look of it, you can just make your own interface. Oh, and it's integrated in our Asterisk-based phone system as well. A customer can call in with their customer and ticket numbers and get status reports and get forwarded to the person in charge of the ticket. It's really a beautiful thing. The only problem I have currently is the newest version of OTRS with HTML email support makes it difficult to reply inline. We just have the HTML email support disabled for outgoing emails for now. (And probably should leave it off anyway...) RT is really nice, but I choose to stick with OTRS. I really do recommend OTRS. (don't need to CC me, I'm on the list) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-isp-REQUEST@... with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@... |
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