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by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.

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Re: access log format

by Alejandro Guerrieri-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
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Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
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Re: access log format

by Alejandro Guerrieri-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
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Re: access log format

by Guillaume Cottenceau-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
> custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
> "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
> figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
> mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.
>
> Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
> "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
> has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
> we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.

--
Guillaume Cottenceau


Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Alenjandro,

I had mentioned about the version in my first mail. It is Kannel - 1.5.0.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
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Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

  
Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
"Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
we loose on such entries. That's my point here.
    

I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.

  

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Re: access log format

by Guillaume Cottenceau-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>
>     Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:
>
>
>
>         Hi,
>
>         Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
>         custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
>         "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
>         figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
>         mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.
>
>         Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
>         "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
>         has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
>         we loose on such entries. That's my point here.
>
>
>     I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
>     made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
>     from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
>     need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.
>
>
>
>

--
Guillaume Cottenceau


Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Yes, as mentioned previously we need to parse these records to get them to the db. Over which we can then send various queries.

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

  
Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.
    

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

  
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.




    

  

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Re: access log format

by Nikos Balkanas :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much
more information about the original message than can be obtained through the
DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was
unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <gc@...>
To: "Alok Vaidya" <alok@...>
Cc: <devel@...>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


> Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry I didn't get you.
>
> Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
> at Kannel logs?
>
>> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>>
>>     Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can
>> certainly have a
>>         custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here
>> like "Sent SMS"/
>>         "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there.
>> Mostly I have
>>         figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries
>> which I have
>>         mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.
>>
>>         Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses
>> patterns such as
>>         "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this
>> event logging
>>         has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be
>> picked up and hence
>>         we loose on such entries. That's my point here.
>>
>>
>>     I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
>>     made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
>>     from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
>>     need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Guillaume Cottenceau
>



Re: access log format

by Alejandro Guerrieri-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Yeah, I've read that, but considering that latest stable is 1.4.3 and 1.5.0 is still being planned, I don't know what you're talking about...

Are you talking about CVS HEAD? Then, what's the timestamp of your checked out version?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 13:51, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi Alenjandro,

I had mentioned about the version in my first mail. It is Kannel - 1.5.0.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>


Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau





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Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

We use the CVS HEAD which I suppose is the 1.5.0 development branch.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Yeah, I've read that, but considering that latest stable is 1.4.3 and 1.5.0 is still being planned, I don't know what you're talking about...

Are you talking about CVS HEAD? Then, what's the timestamp of your checked out version?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 13:51, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi Alenjandro,

I had mentioned about the version in my first mail. It is Kannel - 1.5.0.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>


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Re: access log format

by Alejandro Guerrieri-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Then, again, the DATE for the CVS code?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 14:59, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

We use the CVS HEAD which I suppose is the 1.5.0 development branch.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Yeah, I've read that, but considering that latest stable is 1.4.3 and 1.5.0 is still being planned, I don't know what you're talking about...

Are you talking about CVS HEAD? Then, what's the timestamp of your checked out version?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 13:51, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi Alenjandro,

I had mentioned about the version in my first mail. It is Kannel - 1.5.0.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>


Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Sorry not to give you that earlier : bearerbox-cvs-20090831

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Then, again, the DATE for the CVS code?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 14:59, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

We use the CVS HEAD which I suppose is the 1.5.0 development branch.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Yeah, I've read that, but considering that latest stable is 1.4.3 and 1.5.0 is still being planned, I don't know what you're talking about...

Are you talking about CVS HEAD? Then, what's the timestamp of your checked out version?
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 13:51, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi Alenjandro,

I had mentioned about the version in my first mail. It is Kannel - 1.5.0.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Which version are specifically using to do this tests? CVS? Date?

Maybe you have a routing issue and messages are being re-injected? Or, if you're using 1.4.3 or an old CVS, intermediate DLR's would be seen as MO's as well.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:48, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/"FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence we loose on such entries. That's my point here.

Entries I cannot figure out:

[1]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:48425955-1cad-4fe3-8867-bb56fc0bd685] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A34383633636164632D633162322D346239662D623335382D623739386336633638356436207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323033303720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323033313220737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DC0901]

[2]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g12] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:eed80f6d-3d78-4140-a556-dbb59a856d8f]     [flags:-1:0:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:id:0f22f6f9-8faf-4290-94c1-ce451fa18e21 sub:000 dlvrd:001 submit date:090918120227 done date:090918120242 stat:REJECTD err:000 text:] [udh:6:050003DB0801]

[3]
2009-09-18 13:27:45 Receive SMS [SMSC:smpp_g73] [SVC:] [ACT:labroc] [BINF:] [from:sssstest1] [to:+919920315112] [FID:] [UUID:a935aaad-b36c-4e42-8fee-d8e1f03571bf] [flags:-1:2:-1:0:-1] [msg:132:69643A66363666323135382D333732352D343337652D616137312D633763333161633234366665207375623A30303020646C7672643A303031207375626D697420646174653A30393039313831323337353720646F6E6520646174653A30393039313831323338323520737461743A52454A45435444206572723A30303020746578743A] [udh:6:050003DD0901]

The first entry appears to be a normal MT, why then it is named "Receive SMS" instead of "Sent SMS" ? The second entry though it has the same event "Receive SMS" appears to be a DLR. Again the 3 rd entry seems to be a notmal MT message. I tried to make sense of the flags but to no use.

Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:
Alok,

Check the documentation, you can specify the access log format to be whatever you like.

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri



On 18/09/2009, at 12:23, Alok Vaidya wrote:

Hi,

I am writing to this list instead of the "users" one because people from this list are more probable of having an answer to my question.

Can anyone please elaborate the new access-log-format, I know we have moved from 1.4.x to 1.5, I see some compatibility broken here. We have a process that parses the log files and this format change/break could cost us dear.
<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>

<alok.vcf>


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Re: access log format

by Nikos Balkanas :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
 
You are mistaken. I am not taunting you, not even addressing you. Please get your facts straight before you mail insults.
 
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: alok@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: access log format

Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau





Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Nikos,

I guess whom you are addressing then when you say "Alok's way is superoir....". I always get the facts straight and never comment on anything before making sure, unlike you.

Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,
 
You are mistaken. I am not taunting you, not even addressing you. Please get your facts straight before you mail insults.
 
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: alok@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: access log format

Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau





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Re: access log format

by Donald Jackson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Alok,

I think there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding in the dialog here. Alok, I don't think Nikos was trying to insult you.

Nikos is one of the most active and helpful members of the Kannel mailing lists and should be treated with some respect, as he was after all trying to help you.

If you want to continue this debate, please do so off the mailing list (mail Nikos directly) as it has no relevance here.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/9/19 Alok Vaidya <alok@...>
Hi Nikos,

I guess whom you are addressing then when you say "Alok's way is superoir....". I always get the facts straight and never comment on anything before making sure, unlike you.

Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,
 
You are mistaken. I am not taunting you, not even addressing you. Please get your facts straight before you mail insults.
 
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: alok@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: access log format

Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau







--
Donald Jackson
http://www.thearchitech.com
donald(a)thearchitech.com

Re: access log format

by Alok Vaidya-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Donald,

I respect your opinion here and the explanation that you offer. As someone who follows the mailing list I do know Nikos as being someone who replies frequently to the list, but can you explain me the comment he offered there. Did you think that was helpful ? Even remotely ? That was sarcastic wasn't it ? Now I am game for some light jokes as I am also for any opinion or discussion one has to offer once I put my query in the public domain by mailing it to a list, and yes I am certainly not here to prove my knowledge or to prove any else for that matter. When anyone asks on a mailing list that is because he is looking for some information beyond his knowledge and for that I am open to any back and forth discussions with anyone on the list which as you might have observed I was doing till (and even after) Nikos intervened. But if someone hurls unnecessary, unrequired and uncalled for taunts, then I am certainly not going to take that. And I beg to differ and I am sorry for my strong language here but I didn't at all think that through his comments Nikos was offering any help worth even a dime. Even after that I tried my best explaining my situation without insulting him anywhere. Also contrary to what you think I never disrespected Nikos or even intended to rather it was quite the opposite. But in the mail after that he came up with something that to me was a blatant lie, mentioning he never ever mentioned me, which if you go through his remarks, you can very well see for yourself.

I would just want to close this topic down here as I do not want to blast the mailing list with off topic posts, but my original question still remains unanswered.

Donald Jackson wrote:
Hi Alok,

I think there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding in the dialog here. Alok, I don't think Nikos was trying to insult you.

Nikos is one of the most active and helpful members of the Kannel mailing lists and should be treated with some respect, as he was after all trying to help you.

If you want to continue this debate, please do so off the mailing list (mail Nikos directly) as it has no relevance here.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/9/19 Alok Vaidya <alok@...>
Hi Nikos,

I guess whom you are addressing then when you say "Alok's way is superoir....". I always get the facts straight and never comment on anything before making sure, unlike you.

Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,
 
You are mistaken. I am not taunting you, not even addressing you. Please get your facts straight before you mail insults.
 
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: alok@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: access log format

Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau







--
Donald Jackson
http://www.thearchitech.com
donald(a)thearchitech.com

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Re: access log format

by Nii Ako Ampa-Sowa-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Alok,

Nikos' comment was far from sarcastic. Earlier in the thread, Guillaume Cottenceau suggested that you make use of Kannel's DLR mechanism for your needs instead of parsing DLR logs.

I think Nikos response was more in reference to that suggestion; he simply explained why it might be necessary for someone to parse log files instead of relying on Kannel's DLR mechanism. I happen to agree with his opinion that parsing the log files is superior for some scenarios. I actually parse bearerbox access logs myself on a daily basis for reporting. Others may not need this, but I find it more appropriate for my requirements.

His final statement finally just states that if someone has committed an update which somehow changed the format, it must not have been deliberate.

There's no taunting going on here. He was really just trying to help :)

Nii.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Alok Vaidya <alok@...> wrote:
Hi Donald,

I respect your opinion here and the explanation that you offer. As someone who follows the mailing list I do know Nikos as being someone who replies frequently to the list, but can you explain me the comment he offered there. Did you think that was helpful ? Even remotely ? That was sarcastic wasn't it ? Now I am game for some light jokes as I am also for any opinion or discussion one has to offer once I put my query in the public domain by mailing it to a list, and yes I am certainly not here to prove my knowledge or to prove any else for that matter. When anyone asks on a mailing list that is because he is looking for some information beyond his knowledge and for that I am open to any back and forth discussions with anyone on the list which as you might have observed I was doing till (and even after) Nikos intervened. But if someone hurls unnecessary, unrequired and uncalled for taunts, then I am certainly not going to take that. And I beg to differ and I am sorry for my strong language here but I didn't at all think that through his comments Nikos was offering any help worth even a dime. Even after that I tried my best explaining my situation without insulting him anywhere. Also contrary to what you think I never disrespected Nikos or even intended to rather it was quite the opposite. But in the mail after that he came up with something that to me was a blatant lie, mentioning he never ever mentioned me, which if you go through his remarks, you can very well see for yourself.

I would just want to close this topic down here as I do not want to blast the mailing list with off topic posts, but my original question still remains unanswered.

Donald Jackson wrote:
Hi Alok,

I think there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding in the dialog here. Alok, I don't think Nikos was trying to insult you.

Nikos is one of the most active and helpful members of the Kannel mailing lists and should be treated with some respect, as he was after all trying to help you.

If you want to continue this debate, please do so off the mailing list (mail Nikos directly) as it has no relevance here.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/9/19 Alok Vaidya <alok@...>
Hi Nikos,

I guess whom you are addressing then when you say "Alok's way is superoir....". I always get the facts straight and never comment on anything before making sure, unlike you.

Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,
 
You are mistaken. I am not taunting you, not even addressing you. Please get your facts straight before you mail insults.
 
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: alok@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: access log format

Hi Nikos,

I ain't sure where you are taking this, but I guess I know, so if you are hurling taunts about anything I suggest you find someone else, as you have completely misunderstood my requirement and my question here in the first place.
I ain't interfering with Kannel's DLR handling at all we have been using kannel for 3 years now and I guess that much time is enough to know about any software what it does good or bad. I never said we were talking about DLR's god knows from where you got that notion.
We do not use the smsbox but a proprietary smppbox (licensed from Stipe Tolj) and we parse the log records whether MT or MO to get the information about messages and their delivery reports from log files to db.

Yes I am aware about the dlr-url feature of smsbox to get dlr HTTP Posted back to me, but as mentioned above we do it other way.


Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,

Alok's way is superior to kannel's DLR handling. It inserts to the DB much more information about the original message than can be obtained through the DLRs alone and passed on to the dlr-url.

If anyone has reduced the resolution of the logs, I am sure it was unintentional.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" gc@...
To: "Alok Vaidya" alok@...
Cc: devel@...
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: access log format


Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:

Hi,

Sorry I didn't get you.

Are you programmatically looking for sent/failed SMS by looking
at Kannel logs?

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

    Alok Vaidya <alok 'at' routesms.com> writes:



        Hi,

        Thanks for replying. Yes I checked the documentation we can certainly have a
        custom format, but it is about the events that I talking here like "Sent SMS"/
        "FAILED SMS"/"Discarded SMS" etc., I see some changes there. Mostly I have
        figured them out but, I fail to understand some other entries which I have
        mentioned below as also I want to know more such changes.

        Let me elaborate why this causes problems. Our parser uses patterns such as
        "Failed SMS" to search for current (14.2 box) entries, now this event logging
        has changed to "FAILED SEND SMS" naturally this will not be picked up and hence
        we loose on such entries. That's my point here.


    I might be a little off topic, but why not using the mechanism
    made for that kind of things, e.g. receiving delivery reports
    from Kannel? It is supported, lets you ask what information you
    need, and is of course "supported" accross versions.





-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau







--
Donald Jackson
http://www.thearchitech.com
donald(a)thearchitech.com

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