adding video capture to the continuum site

[Olivier Lamy]

Hi,
I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project for
newbies etc...)
As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources trunk
(It can be long to checkout the sources)
But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.
That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path and
move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
svn mv
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .

The parent pom of this module will be last org.apache.maven:maven-parent
pom.

An other question is what I have to add in svn : wnk and swf files or only
swf ?

Let me know if there is any objections concerning this,

--
Olivier

[rahul.thakur.xdev]

How will this affect users on dial-up/slow connections browsing those
pages on the continuum site?

Is it possible to have these swf (or wnk) resources live outside SVN and
be included from an external URL?

Rahul

----- Original Message -----
From: "olivier lamy" <olamy@...>
To: <continuum-dev@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:42 PM
Subject: adding video capture to the continuum site

> Hi,
> I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project
> for
> newbies etc...)
> As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources
> trunk
> (It can be long to checkout the sources)
> But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.
> That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path
> and
> move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
> svn mv
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .
>
> The parent pom of this module will be last
> org.apache.maven:maven-parent
> pom.
>
> An other question is what I have to add in svn : wnk and swf files or
> only
> swf ?
>
> Let me know if there is any objections concerning this,
>
> --
> Olivier
>

[Olivier Lamy]

Yes displaying the page containing this swf could be long.
But in the link to these pages we can indicate this.

For not storing this files in svn but in an other place, it looks possible
to deploy it manually to people.apache.org /www/maven.apache.org/continuum.
But I'm not sure  it's a good solution to have an automatic process to
deploying site with mvn and an other manual to deploy this files.

--
Olivier

2007/9/19, Rahul Thakur <rahul.thakur.xdev@...>:

>
> How will this affect users on dial-up/slow connections browsing those
> pages on the continuum site?
>
> Is it possible to have these swf (or wnk) resources live outside SVN and
> be included from an external URL?
>
> Rahul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "olivier lamy" <olamy@...>
> To: <continuum-dev@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:42 PM
> Subject: adding video capture to the continuum site
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project
> > for
> > newbies etc...)
> > As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources
> > trunk
> > (It can be long to checkout the sources)
> > But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.
> > That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path
> > and
> > move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
> > svn mv
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .
> >
> > The parent pom of this module will be last
> > org.apache.maven:maven-parent
> > pom.
> >
> > An other question is what I have to add in svn : wnk and swf files or
> > only
> > swf ?
> >
> > Let me know if there is any objections concerning this,
> >
> > --
> > Olivier
> >
>
>

--
Olivier

[Wendy Smoak-3]

On 9/18/07, olivier lamy <olamy@...> wrote:

> I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project for
> newbies etc...)

Great idea. :)

> As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources trunk
> (It can be long to checkout the sources)
> But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.

Not necessarily... they can be hosted anywhere that can handle the
bandwidth, and linked to.  Is YouTube an appropriate option?  (Or can
you convert to a format that can be hosted there or somewhere
similar?)

> That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path and
> move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
> svn mv
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .

I'm not in favor of moving the site somewhere it doesn't get checked
out with the project.  But I also don't think the ASF Subversion repo
is the right place for "documentation" video files.  (It would be
different if they were *part* of the product itself.)

Are any other projects offering video examples?  How do they handle it?

--
Wendy

[Alex Mayorga Adame]

I also agree this might be neat.

Wendy Smoak-3 wrote:

On 9/18/07, olivier lamy <[e-mail]> wrote:

Are any other projects offering video examples?  How do they handle it?

--
Wendy

I don't know on Apache, but I've seen http://screencasts.ubuntu.com and http://www.ubuntuvideo.com and they leverage YouTube/Google Video. I'm just a user of these but maybe someone knows someone on these projects or we can get in touch and see how they do it.

[Emmanuel Venisse]

Wendy Smoak a écrit :
> On 9/18/07, olivier lamy <olamy@...> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project for
>> newbies etc...)
>
> Great idea. :)

yes.
with or without voice?

>
>> As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources trunk
>> (It can be long to checkout the sources)
>> But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.
>
> Not necessarily... they can be hosted anywhere that can handle the
> bandwidth, and linked to.  Is YouTube an appropriate option?  (Or can
> you convert to a format that can be hosted there or somewhere
> similar?)

yes, it's an appropriate option. I don't think YouTube remove files after few days/months

>
>> That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path and
>> move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
>> svn mv
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .
>
> I'm not in favor of moving the site somewhere it doesn't get checked
> out with the project.  But I also don't think the ASF Subversion repo
> is the right place for "documentation" video files.  (It would be
> different if they were *part* of the product itself.)

If we put video files in svn, it will be only wink files but I'm not sure if it's the right place.
I'm not sure we have a quota in svn but wink files will use lot of places.

How many files do you want to do? How many minutes?

>
> Are any other projects offering video examples?  How do they handle it?

I don't know one at ASF.

Emmanuel

[Olivier Lamy]

Hi,
I have made two samples :
- starting continuum and add a project
http://people.apache.org/~olamy/continuum/flash/start-continuum.htm
- using the build definition template new feature
http://people.apache.org/~olamy/continuum/flash/build-definition-template.htm

It's two flash files. Too see the size :
http://people.apache.org/~olamy/continuum/flash
Note : we can reduce the size (I have used my default screen resolution
1280x800).
--
Olivier

2007/9/21, Emmanuel Venisse <emmanuel@...>:

>
>
>
> Wendy Smoak a écrit :
> > On 9/18/07, olivier lamy <olamy@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to add some wink captures to the site (as adding a project for
> >> newbies etc...)
> >
> > Great idea. :)
>
> yes.
> with or without voice?
>
> >
> >> As this files can be huge, I don't really want to add this in sources
> trunk
> >> (It can be long to checkout the sources)
> >> But in order to publish them, they must be in a site module.
> >
> > Not necessarily... they can be hosted anywhere that can handle the
> > bandwidth, and linked to.  Is YouTube an appropriate option?  (Or can
> > you convert to a format that can be hosted there or somewhere
> > similar?)
>
> yes, it's an appropriate option. I don't think YouTube remove files after
> few days/months
>
> >
> >> That's why I'd like to remove the site module from this current path
> and
> >> move it to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/.
> >> svn mv
> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum/trunk/continuum-site/
> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/continuum .
> >
> > I'm not in favor of moving the site somewhere it doesn't get checked
> > out with the project.  But I also don't think the ASF Subversion repo
> > is the right place for "documentation" video files.  (It would be
> > different if they were *part* of the product itself.)
>
> If we put video files in svn, it will be only wink files but I'm not sure
> if it's the right place.
> I'm not sure we have a quota in svn but wink files will use lot of places.
>
> How many files do you want to do? How many minutes?
>
> >
> > Are any other projects offering video examples?  How do they handle it?
>
> I don't know one at ASF.
>
> Emmanuel
>
>

--
Olivier