admins: please stop that stupid vote

[Lars Kneschke-2]

Dear admins!

I asolutely can't see how the project should benefit from that vote.

Cornelius and I already stated that we are not fixed to the name and we also already changed the name to Tine 2.0 before you posted your idea about the vote. Which means there is no need to vote about which version of eGroupWare should get called eGroupWare.

This means we can only vote about following:

YES, if you are in favor of: The existing codeline continuing to evolve the existing codebase with it's
broad range of applications. The new codeline has to form a new project
under a new name as well as discontinuing the use of our mailing lists
for purposes of advertising their new code, petitioning developers, etc.

NO, if you are in favor of: The existing codeline would be
forked into a new project (though fork is the wrong word as they would
be the only ones using and supporting the existing code).


Cornelius and I stated multiple times the we don't want to fork the project and also no other developer stated the he wants this. The only persons who want a fork are the admins.
This means we can only vote about following:

YES, if you are in favor of: The existing codeline continuing to evolve the existing codebase with it's
broad range of applications. The new codeline has to discontinuing the use of our mailing lists
for purposes of advertising their new code, petitioning developers, etc.

NO, if you are in favor of: nothing.



Also no one stated that he want's to limit the number application delivered with eGroupWare.
This means we can only vote about following:

YES, if you are in favor of: The new codeline has to discontinuing the use of our mailing lists
for purposes of advertising their new code, petitioning developers, etc.

NO, if you are in favor of: nothing.

I can't really imagine that any developer in the project likes to vote, if he will be allowed to talk about new ideas in the project or not. That's a extremly stupid vote.



Just to make it clear again:

Cornelius and I have no interesst in taking over the project.

We have also no interesst in forking the project.

The NO option of the vote is absolutely no option for us. Option YES is also no option for us, as it would forbid us to speak about our ideas. I tought I did leave the GDR 18 years ago. Do you remember that eGroupWare is democratic project by it's constituon?

We have no problems adding backward compatibility when we have finished our proof of concept. As you can see with FeLaMiMail it is no good idea to try new ideas in the stable codeline. When we have finished our prove of concept, we can start thinking about how to add backward compatibility. We also stated this multiple times. But of course you could also have asked.

As i have read this on other lists. Our proof of concept is limited to 4 applications. That's because it is a proof of concept. It doesn't mean that we plan that there will be no other modules available for eGoupWare anymore. That's something we never stated. You assumed it instead of asking us about our position.

Also making Cornelius and me reponsible for the current situation, is just to easy. Ralf forced us into this situation. I wouldn't expect from him any other action. But at least from Pim or Miles i would have expected at least a email asking about our point of view.

Take back this vote, if you really take care about the project and start acting as admins who take care for the project.

This vote will not solve any of the current problems in the project, it will make the situation just more worse for the project.
If you think that we should leave the project, please say so. But don't try to use that stupid vote to reach your goal.

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Lars Kneschke
CTO OfficeSpot.Net
Metaways Infosystems GmbH
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