advice on building front-end rapidly

[Farshad Rabbani]

Hello:

 

I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.

 

Regards,

Farshad

     
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[newton.dave]

Farshad Rabbani wrote:
> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.

Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?

> It is a very slow
> and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly
> as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.

That's what themes and templates are for.

>  Is there a
> tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed
> pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and
> drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see
> what the outcome will look like?  If there is such a tool that you
> are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let
> me know.  If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your
> pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself
> spending unnecessary time on this issue.

No, there's no WYSIWYG tool. Nor do I believe you should want one--they
almost never work well.


Dave

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[Farshad Rabbani]

 Hi Dave,

 
> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?


So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP, custom tags etc.?

 

> That's what themes and templates are for.

 

Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to themes and templates?

 

Thanks,

Farshad

 
     
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[Bill Bohnenberger]

I use Eclipse enterprise edition:

http://eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise

- Bill

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani
<farshadrabbani@...>wrote:

>
>
>  Hi Dave,
>
>
> > Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> > understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
> > That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
>
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009

[Farshad Rabbani]

Thanks Bill, I will definitely look into it!

> I use Eclipse enterprise edition:
>
> http://eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise
>
> - Bill
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani
> <farshadrabbani@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> >
> > > Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> > > understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
> >
> >
> > So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> > custom tags etc.?
> >
> >
> >
> > > That's what themes and templates are for.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> > themes and templates?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Farshad
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> >
> > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009

     
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[Terry Gardner-2]

http://netbeans.org

On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can  
>> edit and
>> understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand  
> JSP, custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards  
> to themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>  
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009

[Fernandes Celinio]

 
I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org



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http://netbeans.org

On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>  
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009

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[Burton Rhodes]

I would agree with eclipse as well. However, if you are trying to do
design too, the typical cycle is you create 'dumb HTML' pages in a
wysiwyg editor. Then clean up the code in eclipse and convert to JSP.
A wysiwyg editor will most likely create bloated code. So you will
have to clean up quite a bit, add CSS, etc. This makes dev in eclipse
easier becuase you have a base to start from.

On 11/9/09, Fernandes Celinio <cfernandes@...> wrote:

>
> I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Terry.Gardner@... [mailto:Terry.Gardner@...]
> Envoyé : lundi 9 novembre 2009 15:15
> À : Struts Users Mailing List
> Objet : Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>
> http://netbeans.org
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>>
>>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
>>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>>
>>
>> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
>> custom tags etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
>> themes and templates?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Farshad
>>
>>
>>  
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
>> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
>> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
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[Bill Bohnenberger]

Yes, this is frequently my workflow, also. I happen to use Dreamweaver
because I am familiar with it and have it and it generates fairly clean
HTML, but any such wysiwig editor would do I am sure. I suggest you avoid
using MS Word to generate HTML, however, otherwise you will find the "clean
it up" phase rather daunting :)

- Bill

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Burton Rhodes <burtonrhodes@...>wrote:

> I would agree with eclipse as well. However, if you are trying to do
> design too, the typical cycle is you create 'dumb HTML' pages in a
> wysiwyg editor. Then clean up the code in eclipse and convert to JSP.
> A wysiwyg editor will most likely create bloated code. So you will
> have to clean up quite a bit, add CSS, etc. This makes dev in eclipse
> easier becuase you have a base to start from.
>
> On 11/9/09, Fernandes Celinio <cfernandes@...> wrote:
> >
> > I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Terry.Gardner@... [mailto:Terry.Gardner@...]
> > Envoyé : lundi 9 novembre 2009 15:15
> > À : Struts Users Mailing List
> > Objet : Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
> >
> > http://netbeans.org
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >>
> >>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
> >>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
> >>
> >>
> >> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> >> custom tags etc.?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> That's what themes and templates are for.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> >> themes and templates?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Farshad
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> >> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
> >> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
> >
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[Ronny Løvtangen-2]

On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bill Bohnenberger wrote:

>  I suggest you avoid
> using MS Word to generate HTML, however, otherwise you will find the  
> "clean
> it up" phase rather daunting :)

 From what I remember, DreamWeaver has a "clean up Word HTML" menu item.
Says something about the ugliness of the Word generated HTML ;)


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[Musachy Barroso]

Vi

just kidding, it is monday you know :)

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
<farshadrabbani@...> wrote:

>
> Hello:
>
>
>
> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Farshad
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009

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[erikweber]

That's what I use (vim). Although my front ends are Java code and not HTML/CSS.

Hand-coding takes longer but in my experience results in a better product and also in my opinion makes you a better programmer.

With that said I partnered on a project with a guy who did the HTML front end and he got good results with Dreamweaver. I then used vim to insert the tag work, scriptlets, etc., into his files.

Erik


-----Original Message-----

>From: Musachy Barroso <musachy@...>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@...>
>Subject: Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>
>Vi
>
>just kidding, it is monday you know :)
>
>On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
><farshadrabbani@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Farshad
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009
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[Paweł Wielgus]

Hi all,
i have been using eclipse (standard edition) + amateras jsp/html/xml
editor for years now.
What i like in it best is full support for CTRL+Space.
It also has some kind of wysiwyg editor but i have never used it so i
can't say if it's ok.
You can check it out here:
http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor

Best greetings,
Paweł Wielgus.


2009/11/9  <erikweber@...>:

> That's what I use (vim). Although my front ends are Java code and not HTML/CSS.
>
> Hand-coding takes longer but in my experience results in a better product and also in my opinion makes you a better programmer.
>
> With that said I partnered on a project with a guy who did the HTML front end and he got good results with Dreamweaver. I then used vim to insert the tag work, scriptlets, etc., into his files.
>
> Erik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Musachy Barroso <musachy@...>
>>Sent: Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM
>>To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@...>
>>Subject: Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>>
>>Vi
>>
>>just kidding, it is monday you know :)
>>
>>On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
>><farshadrabbani@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Farshad
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009
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[Bill Bohnenberger]

I've used the standard edition for years, also. But for web projects I think
the enterprise edition is better because I can run my web server (Tomcat)
from within the IDE and therefore interactively debug servlet (in this case,
struts2) code.

- Bill

2009/11/9 Paweł Wielgus <poulwiel@...>

> Hi all,
> i have been using eclipse (standard edition) + amateras jsp/html/xml
> editor for years now.
> What i like in it best is full support for CTRL+Space.
> It also has some kind of wysiwyg editor but i have never used it so i
> can't say if it's ok.
> You can check it out here:
>
> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor
>
> Best greetings,
> Paweł Wielgus.
>
>
> 2009/11/9  <erikweber@...>:
> > That's what I use (vim). Although my front ends are Java code and not
> HTML/CSS.
> >
> > Hand-coding takes longer but in my experience results in a better product
> and also in my opinion makes you a better programmer.
> >
> > With that said I partnered on a project with a guy who did the HTML front
> end and he got good results with Dreamweaver. I then used vim to insert the
> tag work, scriptlets, etc., into his files.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: Musachy Barroso <musachy@...>
> >>Sent: Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM
> >>To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@...>
> >>Subject: Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
> >>
> >>Vi
> >>
> >>just kidding, it is monday you know :)
> >>
> >>On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
> >><farshadrabbani@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow
> and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I
> want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool -
> something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by
> providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts
> elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will
> look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to
> configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how
> exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd
> question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank
> you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Farshad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _________________________________________________________________
> >>> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
> >>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009
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[Paweł Wielgus]

Hi Bill,
You can also run Tomcat from eclipse standard edition,
there is Sysdeo TomcatEclipsePlugin for it.
Which i also use for a long time
and i also think that's more comfortable to run it from eclipse.

Best greetings,
Paweł Wielgus.

2009/11/9 Bill Bohnenberger <bill98122@...>:

> I've used the standard edition for years, also. But for web projects I think
> the enterprise edition is better because I can run my web server (Tomcat)
> from within the IDE and therefore interactively debug servlet (in this case,
> struts2) code.
>
> - Bill
>
> 2009/11/9 Paweł Wielgus <poulwiel@...>
>
>> Hi all,
>> i have been using eclipse (standard edition) + amateras jsp/html/xml
>> editor for years now.
>> What i like in it best is full support for CTRL+Space.
>> It also has some kind of wysiwyg editor but i have never used it so i
>> can't say if it's ok.
>> You can check it out here:
>>
>> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor
>>
>> Best greetings,
>> Paweł Wielgus.
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/9  <erikweber@...>:
>> > That's what I use (vim). Although my front ends are Java code and not
>> HTML/CSS.
>> >
>> > Hand-coding takes longer but in my experience results in a better product
>> and also in my opinion makes you a better programmer.
>> >
>> > With that said I partnered on a project with a guy who did the HTML front
>> end and he got good results with Dreamweaver. I then used vim to insert the
>> tag work, scriptlets, etc., into his files.
>> >
>> > Erik
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Musachy Barroso <musachy@...>
>> >>Sent: Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM
>> >>To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@...>
>> >>Subject: Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>> >>
>> >>Vi
>> >>
>> >>just kidding, it is monday you know :)
>> >>
>> >>On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
>> >><farshadrabbani@...> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very slow
>> and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I
>> want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool -
>> something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by
>> providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts
>> elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will
>> look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to
>> configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how
>> exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an absurd
>> question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue.  Thank
>> you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Farshad
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _________________________________________________________________
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[Ronny Løvtangen-2]

You could easily interactively debug from our IDE when running tomcat  
or other servers outside the IDE as well. As long as you start your  
server with some command line parameters.
e.g. -Xdebug -
Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=5005
I usually just run 'mvn tomcat:run'.


On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Bill Bohnenberger wrote:

> I've used the standard edition for years, also. But for web projects  
> I think
> the enterprise edition is better because I can run my web server  
> (Tomcat)
> from within the IDE and therefore interactively debug servlet (in  
> this case,
> struts2) code.
>
> - Bill
>
> 2009/11/9 Paweł Wielgus <poulwiel@...>
>
>> Hi all,
>> i have been using eclipse (standard edition) + amateras jsp/html/xml
>> editor for years now.
>> What i like in it best is full support for CTRL+Space.
>> It also has some kind of wysiwyg editor but i have never used it so i
>> can't say if it's ok.
>> You can check it out here:
>>
>> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor
>>
>> Best greetings,
>> Paweł Wielgus.
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/9  <erikweber@...>:
>>> That's what I use (vim). Although my front ends are Java code and  
>>> not
>> HTML/CSS.
>>>
>>> Hand-coding takes longer but in my experience results in a better  
>>> product
>> and also in my opinion makes you a better programmer.
>>>
>>> With that said I partnered on a project with a guy who did the  
>>> HTML front
>> end and he got good results with Dreamweaver. I then used vim to  
>> insert the
>> tag work, scriptlets, etc., into his files.
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Musachy Barroso <musachy@...>
>>>> Sent: Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM
>>>> To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@...>
>>>> Subject: Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>>>>
>>>> Vi
>>>>
>>>> just kidding, it is monday you know :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
>>>> <farshadrabbani@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.  It is a very  
>>>>> slow
>> and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly  
>> as I
>> want and also to format the page so it looks good.  Is there a tool -
>> something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by
>> providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop  
>> struts
>> elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the  
>> outcome will
>> look like?  If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is  
>> easy to
>> configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know.  If there isn't, how
>> exactly are you all building your pages?  I apologize if this is an  
>> absurd
>> question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this  
>> issue.  Thank
>> you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Farshad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
>>>>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009
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