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by Donald Lobo :: Rate this Message:

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We've just released alpha4 of civicrm v2. You can download it here (http://downloads.civicrm.org). We expect this to be the final alpha release and plan on doing a beta release mid next week.

Please help out by downloading and testing the release. Testing some of the features that are crucial organization is one way of contributing back to the project :). 2.0 is a significant release and as such we'd like to have more people bang on it and test various features. You can also test most of the features on our sandbox site (http://sandbox.civicrm.org/)

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Re: another alpha released ...

by VJ-4 :: Rate this Message:

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where are the instructions to upgrade from previous version?



On Feb 8, 2008 5:13 PM, Donald Lobo <donald.lobo@...> wrote:

We've just released alpha4 of civicrm v2. You can download it here (http://downloads.civicrm.org). We expect this to be the final alpha release and plan on doing a beta release mid next week.

Please help out by downloading and testing the release. Testing some of the features that are crucial organization is one way of contributing back to the project :). 2.0 is a significant release and as such we'd like to have more people bang on it and test various features. You can also test most of the features on our sandbox site (http://sandbox.civicrm.org/)

regards

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http://civicrm.org/
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Re: another alpha released ...

by Judy Hallman :: Rate this Message:

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VJ wrote:
> where are the instructions to upgrade from previous version?

http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/2.+Install

Judy Hallman
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Re: another alpha released ...

by Dave Greenberg :: Rate this Message:

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VJ - Please use the new beta release (announced today) instead of
alpha4 - newer, shinier, better :-)

There is no upgrade path between alphas / betas. Best to upgrade a
copy of your 1.9 site. Upgrade instructions for 1.9 to 2.0 are now
posted under the Install section (link below).

...dave

On Feb 13, 2008 1:21 PM, Judy Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:

> VJ wrote:
> > where are the instructions to upgrade from previous version?
>
> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/2.+Install
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> Judy Hallman
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Re: another alpha released ...

by VJ-4 :: Rate this Message:

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thanks

On Feb 13, 2008 4:38 PM, Dave Greenberg <dggreenberg@...> wrote:
VJ - Please use the new beta release (announced today) instead of
alpha4 - newer, shinier, better :-)

There is no upgrade path between alphas / betas. Best to upgrade a
copy of your 1.9 site. Upgrade instructions for 1.9 to 2.0 are now
posted under the Install section (link below).

...dave

On Feb 13, 2008 1:21 PM, Judy Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
> VJ wrote:
> > where are the instructions to upgrade from previous version?
>
> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/2.+Install
>
> Judy Hallman
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Site Hosting Options

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Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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RE: Site Hosting Options

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Hi John,

Had the same experiences as you

First SiteGround then Open.  Ended up getting own server designed for
CiviCRM/J!.  If you would like space on it, would be open to discuss.  Could
help you clone existing and move them also.

Best regards,

Tom

916-939-9963

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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Re: Site Hosting Options

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John,

I've got rackspace and servers, 1Us running the RELENG_6 (STABLE) tag of
FreeBSD,
php 5.2.5, mysql 5.1.23, pgsql 8.3, drupal 4, 5, and 6. What I haven't
used or installed for
customers is Joomla.

Drop me a line if you'd like to suggest what I should be charging,
memory, store, bandwidth,
dumpging and off-site archival are a given.

As I'm in New Delhi this week for ICANN, municipal and regional
top-level domains and
internationalization, I won't be doing any remote installs (connectivity
and b/w have been
problematic from India all week), but in principle, I'm available.

Eric

John Nowicki wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
> which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
> This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
> fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
> they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
> once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
> that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
> and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
> asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
> "insecure".)
>
> Utter bait and switch.
>
> Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
> SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
> progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
> I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
> Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
> for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
> myself.
>
> I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Nowicki  

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RE: Site Hosting Options

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It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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Re: Site Hosting Options

by liza sabater :: Rate this Message:

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what's the name of the company?

this is a really great discussion. i had to run around from Site5 for  
a client and ended up having them get a VPS account with GoDaddy. The  
site is running fine but they have very little traffic.

how the traffic and activity on the sites you're hosting?

/ liza

On  14.Feb.2008, at 02:16, Jen wrote:

> It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS  
> account for
> $50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I  
> was in
> the position of having recommended them to several people (they  
> were great
> for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).
>
> They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers,  
> but the
> problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS  
> company I ended
> up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no  
> problems -
> and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up  
> immediately. So
> obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.
>
> By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from  
> Site5 all
> onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at  
> some
> point moving up to the dedicated server option.
>
> It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web  
> host. A lot
> of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS"  
> game. We
> ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they  
> wouldn't let
> you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of  
> moving
> the site now.
>
> Jenni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
> To: civicrm-dev@...
> Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from  
> SiteGround,
> which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend  
> use them.
> This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop"  
> instead of a
> fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround  
> said
> they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in  
> writing), but
> once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version  
> 1.5.x CRM
> that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many  
> resources"
> and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo  
> VPS. (Yes, I
> asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it  
> would be too
> "insecure".)
>
> Utter bait and switch.
>
> Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
> SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo  
> for a
> progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open  
> Social, and
> I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at  
> SiteGround.
> Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of  
> CiviCRM
> for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to  
> do it
> myself.
>
> I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Nowicki
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RE: Site Hosting Options

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Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
could take both.

But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
a valid move by SitegRound.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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RE: Site Hosting Options

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I've had great luck with Network Redux
http://www.networkredux.com/

I was using one of their shared server hosting plans for a stack of sites
(like $19.95 a month), but my "neighbors" kept getting blacklisted for spam,
so I moved to a VPS for $39.95 (I pay by the year) and have gotten great
support.  I have probably 15 sites (most tiny), including a multi-site
common code Drupal set-up (more and more of my sites are moving to that).

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:06 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
could take both.

But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
a valid move by SitegRound.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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Re: Site Hosting Options

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I love http://rimuhosting.com.  I have a VPS for like $19/mo or
something.  It's absurd, and their support is first class.  I get a
discount as a FOSS developer!

Plus they are kiwis (for whatever that's worth).

Best,
J
Gregg Marshall wrote:

> I've had great luck with Network Redux
> http://www.networkredux.com/
>
> I was using one of their shared server hosting plans for a stack of sites
> (like $19.95 a month), but my "neighbors" kept getting blacklisted for spam,
> so I moved to a VPS for $39.95 (I pay by the year) and have gotten great
> support.  I have probably 15 sites (most tiny), including a multi-site
> common code Drupal set-up (more and more of my sites are moving to that).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:06 AM
> To: civicrm-dev@...
> Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
>
>
> Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
> VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
> need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
> off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
> could take both.
>
> But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
> a valid move by SitegRound.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
> To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
> Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
>
> It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
> $50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
> the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
> for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).
>
> They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
> problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
> up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
> and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
> obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.
>
> By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
> onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
> point moving up to the dedicated server option.
>
> It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
> of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
> ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
> you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
> the site now.
>
> Jenni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
> To: civicrm-dev@...
> Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
> which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
> This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
> fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
> they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
> once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
> that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
> and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
> asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
> "insecure".)
>
> Utter bait and switch.
>
> Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
> SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
> progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
> I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
> Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
> for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
> myself.
>
> I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Nowicki  
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RE: RE: Site Hosting Options

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I lease a couple of servers from a company in Kansas City Missouri (just
down the road from me - I live in Topeka, KS) for $59.00 each per month.
Each is a Celeron 2.4 GHz, and has 2G of RAM, and a 70G hard drive. Since
they are in a Telephone company colo, I have access to 3 Terabits of pipe
for bandwidth.

The number of sites you place on each server depends on the load, and in my
case, I have one server with only one site on it and between 10 and 15 on my
other one. I maintain the servers though. That means you must be up on
administering LINUX, Apache, MySQL, PHP, FTP, SSH, SSL and a few other
services though. Oh, and I get a few IP's for that price too. The company is
Wholesale Internet, www.wholesaleinternet.com, and they use DirectAdmin for
the web server control panel. I have configured the servers to meet my
needs, and although I run Drupal not Joomla, I am confident that if one is
an experienced Joomla administrator, it would be just as easy to run.

A word of warning though, you must be up to speed on securing a web server,
so this is not for the feint at heart. I average between 20 and 1000 attacks
per minute from Russia, China, Australia, Germany, USA, Brazil, and Africa.
Basically everywhere a hacker could live. I spend about 20 minutes a day,
every day- 7/24/365 maintaining each server, checking logs, updating
software, and spot checking my hardening skills.

Jeff Zamrzla
Web Designs by JA Zamrzla LLC


-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:06 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
could take both.

But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
a valid move by SitegRound.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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RE: Site Hosting Options

by Joe Murray :: Rate this Message:

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Some folks in the Toronto area have starting using Rimu (centres in NY, UK,
US South, NZ) for Drupal and Drupal/CiviCRM hosting. I have had trouble with
a DoS attack on one of their servers leading to downtime in the first few
months with them, but they're responsive, knowledgeable, and inexpensive.
They seem best for people who know how to sysadmin.

Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liza Sabater [mailto:nyc.blogdiva@...]
> Sent: February 14, 2008 8:07 AM
> To: civicrm-dev@...; Jen
> Cc: Liza Sabater; 'John Nowicki'
> Subject: Re: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
>
> what's the name of the company?
>
> this is a really great discussion. i had to run around from Site5 for
> a client and ended up having them get a VPS account with GoDaddy. The
> site is running fine but they have very little traffic.
>
> how the traffic and activity on the sites you're hosting?
>
> / liza
>
> On  14.Feb.2008, at 02:16, Jen wrote:
>
> > It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS
> > account for
> > $50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I
> > was in
> > the position of having recommended them to several people (they
> > were great
> > for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).
> >
> > They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers,
> > but the
> > problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS
> > company I ended
> > up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no
> > problems -
> > and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up
> > immediately. So
> > obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.
> >
> > By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from
> > Site5 all
> > onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at
> > some
> > point moving up to the dedicated server option.
> >
> > It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web
> > host. A lot
> > of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS"
> > game. We
> > ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they
> > wouldn't let
> > you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of
> > moving
> > the site now.
> >
> > Jenni
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
> > To: civicrm-dev@...
> > Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from
> > SiteGround,
> > which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend
> > use them.
> > This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop"
> > instead of a
> > fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround
> > said
> > they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in
> > writing), but
> > once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version
> > 1.5.x CRM
> > that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many
> > resources"
> > and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo
> > VPS. (Yes, I
> > asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it
> > would be too
> > "insecure".)
> >
> > Utter bait and switch.
> >
> > Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
> > SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo
> > for a
> > progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open
> > Social, and
> > I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at
> > SiteGround.
> > Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of
> > CiviCRM
> > for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to
> > do it
> > myself.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Nowicki
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RE: RE: Site Hosting Options

by Walt Daniels :: Rate this Message:

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Your time is not free, 20 minutes per day increases your cost considerably.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Zamrzla [mailto:jeff@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

I lease a couple of servers from a company in Kansas City Missouri (just
down the road from me - I live in Topeka, KS) for $59.00 each per month.
Each is a Celeron 2.4 GHz, and has 2G of RAM, and a 70G hard drive. Since
they are in a Telephone company colo, I have access to 3 Terabits of pipe
for bandwidth.

The number of sites you place on each server depends on the load, and in my
case, I have one server with only one site on it and between 10 and 15 on my
other one. I maintain the servers though. That means you must be up on
administering LINUX, Apache, MySQL, PHP, FTP, SSH, SSL and a few other
services though. Oh, and I get a few IP's for that price too. The company is
Wholesale Internet, www.wholesaleinternet.com, and they use DirectAdmin for
the web server control panel. I have configured the servers to meet my
needs, and although I run Drupal not Joomla, I am confident that if one is
an experienced Joomla administrator, it would be just as easy to run.

A word of warning though, you must be up to speed on securing a web server,
so this is not for the feint at heart. I average between 20 and 1000 attacks
per minute from Russia, China, Australia, Germany, USA, Brazil, and Africa.
Basically everywhere a hacker could live. I spend about 20 minutes a day,
every day- 7/24/365 maintaining each server, checking logs, updating
software, and spot checking my hardening skills.

Jeff Zamrzla
Web Designs by JA Zamrzla LLC


-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:06 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
could take both.

But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
a valid move by SitegRound.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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RE: RE: RE: Site Hosting Options

by jeff zamrzla :: Rate this Message:

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No, but I charge enough for hosting to make it worth my time. In essence, I
am my own hosting company. Having systems that are mine are priceless to me.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Daniels [mailto:wdlists@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:07 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'Jeff Zamrzla'
Subject: RE: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

Your time is not free, 20 minutes per day increases your cost considerably.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Zamrzla [mailto:jeff@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

I lease a couple of servers from a company in Kansas City Missouri (just
down the road from me - I live in Topeka, KS) for $59.00 each per month.
Each is a Celeron 2.4 GHz, and has 2G of RAM, and a 70G hard drive. Since
they are in a Telephone company colo, I have access to 3 Terabits of pipe
for bandwidth.

The number of sites you place on each server depends on the load, and in my
case, I have one server with only one site on it and between 10 and 15 on my
other one. I maintain the servers though. That means you must be up on
administering LINUX, Apache, MySQL, PHP, FTP, SSH, SSL and a few other
services though. Oh, and I get a few IP's for that price too. The company is
Wholesale Internet, www.wholesaleinternet.com, and they use DirectAdmin for
the web server control panel. I have configured the servers to meet my
needs, and although I run Drupal not Joomla, I am confident that if one is
an experienced Joomla administrator, it would be just as easy to run.

A word of warning though, you must be up to speed on securing a web server,
so this is not for the feint at heart. I average between 20 and 1000 attacks
per minute from Russia, China, Australia, Germany, USA, Brazil, and Africa.
Basically everywhere a hacker could live. I spend about 20 minutes a day,
every day- 7/24/365 maintaining each server, checking logs, updating
software, and spot checking my hardening skills.

Jeff Zamrzla
Web Designs by JA Zamrzla LLC


-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:06 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Yeah, that's another real rip off by SiteGround. Bait and switch to $90/mo
VPS _which only allows you to host one site_. Incredible. Realistically, I
need to move the same config of Joomla/CiviCRM for the DC Democratic Party
off Open Social as well. So eating a ~$50/mo wouldn't be that bad if it
could take both.

But $90 restricted to one? Just another example that this is extortion, not
a valid move by SitegRound.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jen [mailto:horsetail@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: RE: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki  
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Re: Site Hosting Options

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I could recommend slicehost for reliable (and not oversold) VPS hosting,
http://www.slicehost.com/ -- I've got some civicrm sites hosted there and
also use it for backups/redundancy with my own servers.

--mark

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Jen <horsetail@...> wrote:
It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki
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Parent Message unknown Re: Site Hosting Options

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Some parts of this message have been removed. Learn more about Nabble's security policy.

would be cool if folks could add their hosts that they recommend to the wiki page here:

http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Hosting+provider+information

a fair number of people visit that page to decide where to host, so serves as a better long term memory (IMO)

thanx

lobo

----- Original Message ----
From: mark burdett <mfburdett@...>
To: civicrm-dev@...; Jen <horsetail@...>
Cc: John Nowicki <aramis@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:49:24 AM
Subject: Re: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

I could recommend slicehost for reliable (and not oversold) VPS hosting,
http://www.slicehost.com/ -- I've got some civicrm sites hosted there and
also use it for backups/redundancy with my own servers.

--mark

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Jen <horsetail@...> wrote:
It's stuff like this that finally drove me to purchase a VPS account for
$50/month. I was tired of the run around with Site5, and like you I was in
the position of having recommended them to several people (they were great
for a while, but then took a quick nose dive).

They liked to blame it on the company that hosted their servers, but the
problems continued after things moved to The Planet. The VPS company I ended
up with used to host the Site5 servers, and I've had almost no problems -
and the problems I've had have been minor and cleared up immediately. So
obviously the people with the servers wasn't the problem.

By going VPS, I was able to combine mine and a few others from Site5 all
onto one server. It was very cost effective this way. I plan on at some
point moving up to the dedicated server option.

It always stinks when you end up with these problems with a web host. A lot
of companies seem to be pulling the "you have to move up to VPS" game. We
ran into it with the company one of my clients is using - they wouldn't let
you bump up to 64MB or have InnoDB enabled. We're in the process of moving
the site now.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: John Nowicki [mailto:aramis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:24 PM
To: civicrm-dev@...
Subject: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options


Folks,

I'm in the process of getting a bait and switch rip off from SiteGround,
which wouldn't bug me if it was just me, but I suggested a friend use them.
This as a migration from OpenSocialSites when it went "coop" instead of a
fully managed and uptime guaranteed host. In a nutshell, SiteGround said
they support CiviCRM on their shared hosting (I have this in writing), but
once the site was moved over they abrogated, deleted the version 1.5.x CRM
that was on the site, declared the latest version uses "too many resources"
and they will only support it if my friend upgrades to a $90/mo VPS. (Yes, I
asked why they couldn't just install 1.8 then, and the said it would be too
"insecure".)

Utter bait and switch.

Anyway, my question is, can anyone suggest good site host who, unlike
SiteGround is actually honest? The site is a Joomla/CiviCRM combo for a
progressive city councilman. They were paying ~$30/mo for Open Social, and
I'll eat a year of that myself for suggesting the crooks at SiteGround.
Bonus points for a host that will do the transfer and re-install of CiviCRM
for a reasonable fee, as my job doesn't leave me a lot of time to do it
myself.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestions from the list on this!

Thanks,

John Nowicki
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RE: Site Hosting Options

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I'm using LiquidWeb. We have a mix of sites with a small amount of traffic
(under 100 hits a day) to those with much higher levels of traffic
(thousands of hits per day). For the most part they're local non-profits,
candidate sites, community sites, etc.


They often have specials that allow you to get more memory, space, etc. for
$50 a month. If you're interested, just email me privately and I'll check to
see if I have a link for a current such special.

My goal is to soon get all the items set up on the server that I need to so
we can test out CiviMail. Theoretically it's supposed to work on the VPS
account, but I want to test it and see what the speed is like and what kind
of a hit I take to the usage on the server. If it's too much, I'm
considering moving up to the dedicated server since I have enough clients
wanting to use CiviMail that it's more cost effective to do it that way than
to pay to run the emails through someone else.

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: Liza Sabater [mailto:nyc.blogdiva@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:07 AM
To: civicrm-dev@...; Jen
Cc: Liza Sabater; 'John Nowicki'
Subject: Re: [civicrm-dev] Site Hosting Options

what's the name of the company?

this is a really great discussion. i had to run around from Site5 for  
a client and ended up having them get a VPS account with GoDaddy. The  
site is running fine but they have very little traffic.

how the traffic and activity on the sites you're hosting?

/ liza




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