anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

[Didier Wiroth-2]

Hello,

I would like to buy/build a low power 19" rack-mount server for home
usage that will run openbsd.
The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp & dns caching

I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
hardware at home?
Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
Can you recommend a european online reseller?

Thank you very very much for your advices!
Kind regards,
Didier

[Sergio Aguayo-2]

Hello

I have a Sun Cobalt RaQ 550. However that one runs Linux.... but with latest firmware versions i've been told that it can run NetBSD, but not OpenBSD.

Just my 2 cents....

Sergio Aguayo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Didier Wiroth" <dwiroth@...>
To: misc@...
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 5:22:01 PM
Subject: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

Hello,

I would like to buy/build a low power 19" rack-mount server for home
usage that will run openbsd.
The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp & dns caching

I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
hardware at home?
Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
Can you recommend a european online reseller?

Thank you very very much for your advices!
Kind regards,
Didier

[Daniel Ouellet]

Sergio Aguayo wrote:

> I have a Sun Cobalt RaQ 550. However that one runs Linux.... but with latest firmware versions i've been told that it can run NetBSD, but not OpenBSD.

The RaQ 550 like all the other RaQ and cube units, never had a success
at OpenBSD. There was a very old may be something going on for the RaQ
2+ , many years ago, but the RaQ3 and up including the 550 run i386
oppose to the previous version that run MIPS and to my knowledge and in
the archive there isn't any success for OpenBSD on them. I wish someone
would prove me wrong, but as far as I know there isn't been any success
on it. Not much interest in it I guess, plus I am not sure anyone have
any time for it either.

You can run NetBSD on them and it's pretty stable and good if you want
to go that way and the RaQ 550 is dirt cheap on EBay too. You can have
one for $20 or less including shipping to your house, in the US anyway.

What I do like for small server that are the same size is the Sun X1 if
you can get them with good memory as if you need to add them later, it's
not worth it really. I mean price wise anyway, but sure run well, nice
and for a long time and just pretty lower in power too. Less the 10
watts if you do it right. A bit noise with the default fan however.

But I wonder these days if you are not better just to built your own
with the new very small board available and price wise they have been
going down a lots in the last few years too and cpu power and all really
do not compare anymore.

Good luck.

[Tom Van Looy-2]

Didier Wiroth wrote:
> I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
> hardware at home?
> Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
> Can you recommend a european online reseller?

This seems nice too:
http://www.descom.be/configurator_server.php?mode=&type=17

[Stijn-2]

Didier Wiroth wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to buy/build a low power 19" rack-mount server for home
> usage that will run openbsd.
> The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
> kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp & dns caching
>
> I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
> hardware at home?
> Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
> Can you recommend a european online reseller?
>
> Thank you very very much for your advices!
> Kind regards,
> Didier
>
>
>
>  

How about these ones:
http://linitx.com/viewcategory.php?catid=123&pp=116,123
I haven't used any of those though.

I bought this one for home use, and I'm very happy with it:
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12137

You can find more information on the vendor's home page:
http://www.lex.com.tw/

And here's the obligatory dmesg & sysctl porn (yes, I know, it needs a
more current snapshot...)

HTH,
Stijn

OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #123: Sat Aug 22 14:20:26 MDT 2009
    deraadt@...:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA C7 Processor 1000MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 1.01 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem  = 1005023232 (958MB)
avail mem = 964964352 (920MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/22/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf9f00,
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0000 (33 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version "6.00 PG" date 08/22/2008
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (slowidle)
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0xd654
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd550/240 (13 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 ("VIA VT82C596A ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x10000
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x08100a1308000a13
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1001 MHz: speeds: 1333, 1067 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
viaagp0 at pchb0: v3
agp0 at viaagp0: aperture at 0xe8000000, size 0x10000000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 "VIA PT890 Host" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT8377 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "VIA S3 Unichrome PRO IGP" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: irq
10, address 00:30:18:4c:18:c9
em1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: irq
11, address 00:30:18:4c:18:ca
em2 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: irq
5, address 00:30:18:4c:18:cb
ral0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "Ralink RT2561" rev 0x00: irq 11, address
00:08:a1:9c:33:68
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2661B, RF RT2527
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "VIA VT6420 SATA" rev 0x80: DMA
pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt
pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x06: ATA133,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
wd0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0: <SAMSUNG CF/ATA>
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 497MB, 1018080 sectors
wd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11
uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 "VIA VT6202 USB" rev 0x86: irq 5
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "VIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "VIA VT8237 ISA" rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-4200CL5
auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5 "VIA VT8233 AC97" rev 0x60: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x56494161 (VIA Technologies VT1612A)
ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D
audio0 at auvia0
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com0: console
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
viasio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: VT1211 rev 0x02, HM, WDG not activated
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
biomask ff65 netmask ff65 ttymask ffff
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
vscsi0 at root
scsibus0 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b


$ sysctl hw
hw.machine=i386
hw.model=VIA C7 Processor 1000MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class)
hw.ncpu=1
hw.byteorder=1234
hw.pagesize=4096
hw.disknames=wd0
hw.diskcount=1
hw.sensors.viasio0.temp0=6.84 degC
hw.sensors.viasio0.temp1=52.57 degC (UCH5)
hw.sensors.viasio0.volt0=3.61 VDC (UCH1)
hw.sensors.viasio0.volt1=2.51 VDC (UCH2)
hw.sensors.viasio0.volt2=3.38 VDC (UCH3)
hw.sensors.viasio0.volt3=2.43 VDC (UCH4)
hw.sensors.viasio0.volt4=3.38 VDC (+3.3V)
hw.cpuspeed=1333
hw.setperf=100
hw.product=CN700-8237
hw.uuid=Not Set
hw.physmem=1005023232
hw.usermem=1005010944
hw.ncpufound=1

[Jacob Yocom-Piatt-2]

Stijn wrote:

> Didier Wiroth wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to buy/build a low power 19" rack-mount server for home
>> usage that will run openbsd.
>> The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
>> kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp & dns caching
>>
>> I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
>> hardware at home?
>> Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
>> Can you recommend a european online reseller?
>>
>> Thank you very very much for your advices!
>> Kind regards,
>> Didier
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>
> You can find more information on the vendor's home page:
> http://www.lex.com.tw/
>

these machines look real nice. a shame i didn't find this site a year
ago....

are there any other manufacturers of fanless embedded systems like this
out there?

cheers,
jake

[Henning Brauer]

* Didier Wiroth <dwiroth@...> [2009-11-06 23:31]:
> I would like to buy/build a low power 19" rack-mount server for home
> usage that will run openbsd.
> The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
> kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp & dns caching
>
> I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
> hardware at home?
> Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
> Can you recommend a european online reseller?

supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
with it.

--
Henning Brauer, hb@..., henning@...
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting

[Diana Eichert]

The rackmount CP3100R1-320-S, Certance CP3100 360GB Rack Mount D2D2T
is a pretty cool armish box, which could be had for peanuts when
they went into surplus mode.  However serial console support is
marginal, drahn@ built an install kernel for me with good enough
support to get OpenBSD up and running on mine.

diana

[Diana Eichert]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Diana Eichert wrote:

> The rackmount CP3100R1-320-S, Certance CP3100 360GB Rack Mount D2D2T
> is a pretty cool armish box, which could be had for peanuts when
> they went into surplus mode.  However serial console support is marginal,
> drahn@ built an install kernel for me with good enough
> support to get OpenBSD up and running on mine.
>
> diana

and just for grins there is one for sale right now on eflea

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220244385703

BTW, it's not mine. :-)

[Didier Wiroth-2]

On Saturday 07 November 2009 18:51:03 Henning Brauer wrote:
> supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
> with it.

Thank you very much for your feedback, it gave me a good overview!!!

This one looks really nice.
I think I'm gonna buy one of this model:
1) supermicro SuperServer 5015A-H
<http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H>
2) with an  optional MCP-220-00044-0N to put two 750GB 2.5" HDD in it.
(running their onboard SATA  RAID 1 support)
3) with 1x 2GB ram
4) running current.

I have an additional question. The only (drawback), is that you can only put a
maximum of 2 disks in this server. If possible, I would love to expand the
storage support (get more giga/terabyte to be able to securely store my
multimedia library, via in- or external storage, perhaps via their optional
riser card (pci-e x8). I'm not a hardware expert, so I would really
appreciate your opinions/ideas about what you would do.

Kind regards,
Didier

[Henning Brauer]

* Didier Wiroth <dwiroth@...> [2009-11-08 14:36]:

> On Saturday 07 November 2009 18:51:03 Henning Brauer wrote:
> > supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
> > with it.
>
> Thank you very much for your feedback, it gave me a good overview!!!
>
> This one looks really nice.
> I think I'm gonna buy one of this model:
> 1) supermicro SuperServer 5015A-H
> <http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H>
> 2) with an  optional MCP-220-00044-0N to put two 750GB 2.5" HDD in it.
> (running their onboard SATA  RAID 1 support)

the onboard raid is none, that is the usual fake raid. you can use
softraid just fine tho.

> 3) with 1x 2GB ram
> 4) running current.
>
> I have an additional question. The only (drawback), is that you can only put a
> maximum of 2 disks in this server. If possible, I would love to expand the
> storage support (get more giga/terabyte to be able to securely store my
> multimedia library, via in- or external storage, perhaps via their optional
> riser card (pci-e x8). I'm not a hardware expert, so I would really
> appreciate your opinions/ideas about what you would do.

well, you can of course use the atom board in another case (giving up
the "silent" and "energy efficient" points a bit tho). there's the 4x
3.5" SATA 1U case...


--
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BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting

[Daniel Ouellet]

> supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
> with it.

Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any feedback
may be?

Just looking for minimum like the LOM on the old SUN V100 and the like.
Don't need CD remote mount and all that. SSH over Ethernet would be
nice, but I can deal without it. Sad that none of these board actually
have a decent remote console without the need for additional board when
it's possible.

That's really all that I am really missing the most in the various new
boxes these days. Just can't get one small with decent remote console
access.

Thanks for any feedback if you have time and ever tried it.

Best,

Daniel

[Henning Brauer]

* Daniel Ouellet <daniel@...> [2009-11-09 00:57]:
> >supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
> >with it.
>
> Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any
> feedback may be?

same as on the "real" supermicros: works like a charm.

> Just looking for minimum like the LOM on the old SUN V100 and the
> like. Don't need CD remote mount and all that. SSH over Ethernet
> would be nice, but I can deal without it. Sad that none of these
> board actually have a decent remote console without the need for
> additional board when it's possible.

err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
over cereal, that's it. i haven't seen anything as good as sun's
LOMlite and ALOM anywhere. Ironically, I have seen total failures
trying to make something like LOM - from sun. Epic fail in their
X2100 and X4250 (or so). don't get me started on ipmi.

just noticed dmesg might be useful. cardbus slot (and the 3G card
therein) are on a PCI card, all the rest onboard.

OpenBSD 4.6-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Aug  8 05:30:38 CEST 2009
    henning@...:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
real mem  = 2145595392 (2046MB)
avail mem = 2065874944 (1970MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/05/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfd160 (27 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1.0" date 05/05/2009
bios0: Supermicro X7SLA
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) EUSB(S4) MC97(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) LAN0(S1) P0P9(S4) LAN1(S1) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB3(S4) SLPB(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 4
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P7)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P8)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P9)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpicpu1 at acpi0
acpicpu2 at acpi0
acpicpu3 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xaa00!
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945G Host" rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945G Video" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
drm0 at inteldrm0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 82801G PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C (0x3c00), apic 4 int 16 (irq 10), address 00:30:48:db:03:f2
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 "Intel 82801G PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 17 (irq 11)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
re1 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C (0x3c00), apic 4 int 17 (irq 11), address 00:30:48:db:03:f3
rgephy1 at re1 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 23 (irq 5)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 19 (irq 7)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 18 (irq 6)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 23 (irq 5)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe1
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
cbb0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5C475 CardBus" rev 0x81: apic 4 int 20 (irq 10)
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 5 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x40
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GB LPC" rev 0x01: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801GB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GR AHCI" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 19 (irq 7), AHCI 1.1
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, SAMSUNG MMCRE64G, VBM1> SCSI3 0/direct fixed
sd0: 61057MB, 512 bytes/sec, 125045424 sec total
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 19 (irq 7)
iic0 at ichiic0
lm1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: W83627DHG
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83627DHG
lm1 detached
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
ohci0 at cardbus0 dev 0 function 0 "Opti 82C861" rev 0x10: irq 268702730, version 1.0, legacy support
usb5 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub5 at usb5 "Opti OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
uplcom0 at uhub1 port 2 "Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller" rev 1.10/3.00 addr 2
ucom0 at uplcom0
softraid0 at root
root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b


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[Daniel Ouellet]

Henning Brauer wrote:
> * Daniel Ouellet <daniel@...> [2009-11-09 00:57]:
>>> supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
>>> with it.
>> Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any
>> feedback may be?
>
> same as on the "real" supermicros: works like a charm.

Many thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated! I guess I will need to
try one next then.

Good to know.

Best as always,

Daniel

[Steve Shockley]

On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
> cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz

They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.

[Henning Brauer]

* Steve Shockley <steve.shockley@...> [2009-11-09 04:59]:
> On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
> >cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> >cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> >cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
> >cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
>
> They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.

two cores * two threads, yes. and I see nothing wrong with that.

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[David Vasek]

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Henning Brauer wrote:

> * Steve Shockley <steve.shockley@...> [2009-11-09 04:59]:
>> On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
>>> cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
>>> cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
>>> cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
>>> cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
>>
>> They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.
>
> two cores * two threads, yes. and I see nothing wrong with that.

Do things like this still apply? Is hyper-threading still considered
insecure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading#Security

In its Pentium 4 era it was recommended to always disable HT for security
reasons.

Regards,
David

[Ted Unangst-2]

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David Vasek <vasek@...> wrote:
> Do things like this still apply? Is hyper-threading still considered
> insecure?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading#Security

Nothing has changed.  Neither the attack, nor the threat it actually
poses to you.

[Jonathan Thornburg-3]

In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=125772750301569&w=1,
Henning wrote
> err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
> over cereal, that's it
       ^^^^^^

<humor>
Ah yes, *that* famous pun.

At the beginning of the chapter on "Serial Devices" in the classic
(and now somewhat dated) Unix system-admin book by Nemeth et al, there's
a cartoon showing a small child holding a spoon next to a bowl, labelled
"Child left to its own serial devices". :)
</humor>

Henning, thank you for a good chuckle!

ciao,

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[Stuart Henderson]

On 2009-11-09, Henning Brauer <lists-openbsd@...> wrote:
> err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
> over cereal, that's it. i haven't seen anything as good as sun's
> LOMlite and ALOM anywhere.

HP iLO is surprisingly useful here - even the free embedded version on
the cheap tower servers e.g. ML110 lets you switch a single physical
serial port between an admin interface (with power control, reboot and
basic access to monitoring) and the "real" serial port (the user
interface and documentation are horrible, but it works).

OTOH remote power bars aren't all that expensive and you have a
consistent UI between machine vendors that way. (and HP rack servers
don't seem to have the nice discounts that keep coming up on the
low-end towers...)