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by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

  Here is my idea for some icon and logo art for conkeror:

http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker7.svg


  Comments?  I think there are a lot of directions one could go in
with this kind of silhouette design, in terms of adding some elegant
effects or textures to it, or arranging it with the word "CONKEROR".
If there are artists out there please don't hesitate to play around
with it.  I could see adopting this as version 1 of the logo, and keep
it until we improve upon it.

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by Axel Beckert :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:33:33PM -0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
>   Here is my idea for some icon and logo art for conkeror:
>
> http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker7.svg

I like the idea of a C-shaped conker silhouette.

>   Comments?

I have no idea what the long stick on top of it should depict.

Additionally I think that the logo shouldn't contain any part of it
that "leaves" the logo respectively is depicted only partially. Such
things always look awkward on the desktop or panels which leave a
small padding around the icon.

> I think there are a lot of directions one could go in with this kind
> of silhouette design, in terms of adding some elegant effects or
> textures to it,

Some color wouldn't be bad either, but having a black'n'white version
available, too, isn't the badest idea....

> or arranging it with the word "CONKEROR".

Could be nice also... Maybe slightly bended inside the logo to give
the C-shape a more 3D look..

> If there are artists out there please don't hesitate to play around
> with it.

Maybe I manage to play around long enough with Inkscape so that I can
show you what I had in mind when writing this mail. :-)
>
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by 'Mash-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-08-26 21:33-0400, John J. Foerch wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   Here is my idea for some icon and logo art for conkeror:
>
> http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker7.svg
>
>
>   Comments?  I think there are a lot of directions one could go in
> with this kind of silhouette design, in terms of adding some elegant
> effects or textures to it, or arranging it with the word "CONKEROR".
> If there are artists out there please don't hesitate to play around
> with it.  I could see adopting this as version 1 of the logo, and keep
> it until we improve upon it.

Brilliant. Love it, simple and clean. Just needs some text and cropping, going silhouette is a good idea.

Reminds me of my English school days, but I would be weary of that knot :)

'Mash

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Re: art

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2009/8/27 John J. Foerch <jjfoerch@...>:

> Hi all,
>
>  Here is my idea for some icon and logo art for conkeror:
>
> http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker7.svg
>
>
>  Comments?  I think there are a lot of directions one could go in
> with this kind of silhouette design, in terms of adding some elegant
> effects or textures to it, or arranging it with the word "CONKEROR".
> If there are artists out there please don't hesitate to play around
> with it.  I could see adopting this as version 1 of the logo, and keep
> it until we improve upon it.
>
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I created a little logo yesterday as well:

http://www.pici.se/pictures/PWAmoHEPT.png

Note that this is not intended as an actual logo suggestion, but as an
idea of what our logo could look like. I very much like John's logo as
well, this is just another alternative for you guys to consider. I
have attached the SVG version of it in this e-mail.

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by Axel Beckert :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 02:14:50PM +0200, Deniz Dogan wrote:
> http://www.pici.se/pictures/PWAmoHEPT.png
>
> Note that this is not intended as an actual logo suggestion, but as an
> idea of what our logo could look like. I very much like John's logo as
> well, this is just another alternative for you guys to consider. I
> have attached the SVG version of it in this e-mail.

I actually like this one more, because it's more colorful (you still
can make a b/w version by removing the brown part and taking the
silhouette) and the chestnut is much easier to spot, but still is
simple and has some C-shape.

And it reminds me to PACMAN! :-) I would only turn the logo 45 degrees
clockwise so it looks even more like a C (and pacman).

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Re: art

by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Axel,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:39:50PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:33:33PM -0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
> >   Here is my idea for some icon and logo art for conkeror:
> >
> > http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker7.svg
>
> I like the idea of a C-shaped conker silhouette.
>
> >   Comments?
>
> I have no idea what the long stick on top of it should depict.


Any resemblance to the letter C is purely coincidental, and not a
direction I want to go in.  Can't stand logos based on contorting the
letters of the alphabet because I think it strains the eyes when you
try to "read" it.

It's a conker (chestnut) on a string... the word "conkeror" comes from
the game of conkers, which entails whacking conkers together until
only one (the conkeror) remains unbroken.

Some texture would make it look more string-like, but I don't know how
to do that in inkscape yet.


> Additionally I think that the logo shouldn't contain any part of it
> that "leaves" the logo respectively is depicted only partially. Such
> things always look awkward on the desktop or panels which leave a
> small padding around the icon.

I know what you mean, but I was thinking that for an icon, the
background would be opaque.. perhaps a rounded rectangle background.



> Some color wouldn't be bad either, but having a black'n'white version
> available, too, isn't the badest idea....


totally agree.

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by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:49:07AM +0100, 'Mash wrote:
> Reminds me of my English school days, but I would be weary of that knot :)

Hi 'Mash,

Earlier versions of this design had a "knot" but then I realised you
would never tie a knot there because centrifugal force would hold the
nut at the end.  So now the little blobby at the bottom of the string
is meant to be a hole.  Maybe it's too big, or maybe it should be a
crescent shape instead of an oval.  Thoughts?

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by Axel Beckert :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40:29AM -0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
> Any resemblance to the letter C is purely coincidental,

Hehe.

> and not a direction I want to go in.

Oh.

> Can't stand logos based on contorting the letters of the alphabet
> because I think it strains the eyes when you try to "read" it.

I see.
 
> > I have no idea what the long stick on top of it should depict.
>
> [...] It's a conker (chestnut) on a string...

Ah, right, that game was played with chestnuts on a string. Forgot
about the string...

> > Additionally I think that the logo shouldn't contain any part of it
> > that "leaves" the logo respectively is depicted only partially. Such
> > things always look awkward on the desktop or panels which leave a
> > small padding around the icon.
>
> I know what you mean, but I was thinking that for an icon, the
> background would be opaque.. perhaps a rounded rectangle background.

That would be ok, although I prefer icons which work fine with
transparent background. (Mostly because I have a transparent panel
where they reside in. :-)

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by 'Mash-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-08-27 10:45-0400, John J. Foerch wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:49:07AM +0100, 'Mash wrote:
> > Reminds me of my English school days, but I would be weary of that knot :)
>
> Hi 'Mash,
>
> Earlier versions of this design had a "knot" but then I realised you
> would never tie a knot there because centrifugal force would hold the
> nut at the end.  So now the little blobby at the bottom of the string
> is meant to be a hole.  Maybe it's too big, or maybe it should be a
> crescent shape instead of an oval.  Thoughts?

Maybe just round the rip of the string?
But to be honest I think you are fine, from what it sounds like on this mailing list not many people know conkers anyway. :)

Did you trace an actual conker because the shape is spot on.

'Mash

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:40 AM, John J. Foerch<jjfoerch@...> wrote:
> It's a conker (chestnut) on a string... the word "conkeror" comes from
> the game of conkers, which entails whacking conkers together until
> only one (the conkeror) remains unbroken.

HAH!  i thought it was a computer mouse being conquered with an arrow
through it, showing the dominance of the keyboard!

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by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 04:55:37PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > I know what you mean, but I was thinking that for an icon, the
> > background would be opaque.. perhaps a rounded rectangle background.
>
> That would be ok, although I prefer icons which work fine with
> transparent background. (Mostly because I have a transparent panel
> where they reside in. :-)


Oh I see.  The current version has a long string only because, like
they say about warm clothes, you can always take them off, but you
can't put on what you don't have.  hehe.  I think there does need to
be a certain amount of string to convey a little bit of a sense of
motion, and also because at the end of the day, the thing being
depicted is a nut on a string.  An inconvenient shape to work with,
for sure, but I have become fond of this idea.

When we actually get down to generating icons, that will be done with
scripts, so we can certainly make multiple versions, though I hope we
can arrive at something everyone likes enough that they are not forced
to change it manually.

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by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:12:22AM -0700, Vinh Nguyen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:40 AM, John J. Foerch<jjfoerch@...> wrote:
> > It's a conker (chestnut) on a string... the word "conkeror" comes from
> > the game of conkers, which entails whacking conkers together until
> > only one (the conkeror) remains unbroken.
>
> HAH!  i thought it was a computer mouse being conquered with an arrow
> through it, showing the dominance of the keyboard!


See?  Now you're 'in the know!

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by 'Mash-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-08-27 08:12-0700, Vinh Nguyen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:40 AM, John J. Foerch<jjfoerch@...> wrote:
> > It's a conker (chestnut) on a string... the word "conkeror" comes from
> > the game of conkers, which entails whacking conkers together until
> > only one (the conkeror) remains unbroken.
>
> HAH!  i thought it was a computer mouse being conquered with an arrow
> through it, showing the dominance of the keyboard!
>
> vinh

LOL, I can see that now too!

For those who want to know just found this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmfrqvR12Kw


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by John J. Foerch :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 04:02:24PM +0100, 'Mash wrote:

> On 2009-08-27 10:45-0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:49:07AM +0100, 'Mash wrote:
> > > Reminds me of my English school days, but I would be weary of that knot :)
> >
> > Hi 'Mash,
> >
> > Earlier versions of this design had a "knot" but then I realised you
> > would never tie a knot there because centrifugal force would hold the
> > nut at the end.  So now the little blobby at the bottom of the string
> > is meant to be a hole.  Maybe it's too big, or maybe it should be a
> > crescent shape instead of an oval.  Thoughts?
>
> Maybe just round the rip of the string?
> But to be honest I think you are fine, from what it sounds like on this mailing list not many people know conkers anyway. :)
>
> Did you trace an actual conker because the shape is spot on.


Thanks.  No, this was freehand, or "freemouse" anyway.

Here is an old version with just a tiny hole:

  http://jjfoerch.com/bitbucket/conker/conker4.svg

The only other difference between conker4.svg and conker7.svg is that
in 4, the string is not tapered at the top.

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