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by Don-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

 

I am posting here because developer/maintainer has told me he does not have time
to work on this anymore and I should look elsewhere. So I hope this is the
correct place.

 

I am using atop_1.21-1_i686.ipk and I have discovered a problem with it.  On a
system with multiple CPUs the CPU (not cpu) values are sum of the cpu values
when it should be the average.

 

CPU | sys      3% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle    196% | wait      0% |

cpu | sys      2% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     98% | cpu000 w  0% |

cpu | sys      1% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     99% | cpu001 w  0% |

 

For example idle for CPU shows as 196% when it should be 98%. This happens for
all of the CPU values.

 

Don


RE: atop

by Don-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Is this the correct forum for this or do I need to keep searching?

 

Don

 

From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On Behalf
Of Don Muller
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:22 PM
To: nslu2-linux@...
Subject: [nslu2-linux] atop

 






Hi,

 

I am posting here because developer/maintainer has told me he does not have time
to work on this anymore and I should look elsewhere. So I hope this is the
correct place.

 

I am using atop_1.21-1_i686.ipk and I have discovered a problem with it.  On a
system with multiple CPUs the CPU (not cpu) values are sum of the cpu values
when it should be the average.

 

CPU | sys      3% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle    196% | wait      0% |

cpu | sys      2% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     98% | cpu000 w  0% |

cpu | sys      1% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     99% | cpu001 w  0% |

 

For example idle for CPU shows as 196% when it should be 98%. This happens for
all of the CPU values.

 

Don









Re: atop

by Neil Shephard :: Rate this Message:

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--- In nslu2-linux@..., Don Muller <don@...> wrote:
>
> Is this the correct forum for this or do I need to keep searching?
>
>  


Well you've picked a mailing list for the NSLU2 which is a small _single_ CPU NAS device (although the distros are used on some other NAS's).

What system are you using this on?  Presumably you're using a SlugOS variant as you've installed an ipkg, but what stream have you obtained that from?

Does this happen on any other systems (i.e. alternative OS's on multi-core computers) with multiple CPUs that you've tried this on?  If so its a problem upstream (which by the sounds of it is unlikely to be fixed).



>
> Don
>
>  
>
> From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On Behalf
> Of Don Muller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: nslu2-linux@...
> Subject: [nslu2-linux] atop
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I am posting here because developer/maintainer has told me he does not have time
> to work on this anymore and I should look elsewhere. So I hope this is the
> correct place.
>
>  
>
> I am using atop_1.21-1_i686.ipk and I have discovered a problem with it.  On a
> system with multiple CPUs the CPU (not cpu) values are sum of the cpu values
> when it should be the average.
>
>  
>
> CPU | sys      3% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle    196% | wait      0% |
>
> cpu | sys      2% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     98% | cpu000 w  0% |
>
> cpu | sys      1% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     99% | cpu001 w  0% |
>
>  
>
> For example idle for CPU shows as 196% when it should be 98%. This happens for
> all of the CPU values.
>
>  
>
> Don
>



RE: Re: atop

by Don-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

It's running on a QNAP NAS (x86). The feed is
http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ts509/cross/stable/Packages.gz.



-----Original Message-----
From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On Behalf
Of slackline
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:10 AM
To: nslu2-linux@...
Subject: [nslu2-linux] Re: atop



--- In nslu2-linux@..., Don Muller <don@...> wrote:
>
> Is this the correct forum for this or do I need to keep searching?
>
>  


Well you've picked a mailing list for the NSLU2 which is a small _single_ CPU
NAS device (although the distros are used on some other NAS's).

What system are you using this on?  Presumably you're using a SlugOS variant as
you've installed an ipkg, but what stream have you obtained that from?

Does this happen on any other systems (i.e. alternative OS's on multi-core
computers) with multiple CPUs that you've tried this on?  If so its a problem
upstream (which by the sounds of it is unlikely to be fixed).



>
> Don
>
>  
>
> From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On
Behalf

> Of Don Muller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: nslu2-linux@...
> Subject: [nslu2-linux] atop
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I am posting here because developer/maintainer has told me he does not have
time

> to work on this anymore and I should look elsewhere. So I hope this is the
> correct place.
>
>  
>
> I am using atop_1.21-1_i686.ipk and I have discovered a problem with it.  On a
> system with multiple CPUs the CPU (not cpu) values are sum of the cpu values
> when it should be the average.
>
>  
>
> CPU | sys      3% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle    196% | wait      0%
|
>
> cpu | sys      2% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     98% | cpu000 w  0%
|
>
> cpu | sys      1% | user      0% | irq       0% | idle     99% | cpu001 w  0%
|

>
>  
>
> For example idle for CPU shows as 196% when it should be 98%. This happens for
> all of the CPU values.
>
>  
>
> Don
>




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Re: atop

by Neil Shephard :: Rate this Message:

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--- In nslu2-linux@..., Don Muller <don@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It's running on a QNAP NAS (x86). The feed is
> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ts509/cross/stable/Packages.gz.

Ok, so does the failure for the percentages to tally up happen on any other systems?

Is your desktop computer multi-core?  If so do you observe the same behaviour you've described with atop on that as you do on your QNAP?

This would help identify whether the error is with atop in general or the specific build you are using.




RE: Re: atop

by Don-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Sorry my desktop is Windoze. The only devices I have that run Linux are three
NAS devices. Only one of them is dual core.

-----Original Message-----
From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On Behalf
Of slackline
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:50 AM
To: nslu2-linux@...
Subject: [nslu2-linux] Re: atop



--- In nslu2-linux@..., Don Muller <don@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It's running on a QNAP NAS (x86). The feed is
> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ts509/cross/stable/Packages.gz.

Ok, so does the failure for the percentages to tally up happen on any other
systems?

Is your desktop computer multi-core?  If so do you observe the same behaviour
you've described with atop on that as you do on your QNAP?

This would help identify whether the error is with atop in general or the
specific build you are using.





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Re: Re: atop

by mig mac :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
I'm running atop v1.23 on a couple Ubuntu systems and both show CPU totals
over 100%.
I believe that is the intended behavior.

from the atop man page:

       CPU  CPU utilization.
            At  least  one  line  is shown for the total occupation of all
CPU’s
            together....


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Don Muller <don@...> wrote:

>
>
> Sorry my desktop is Windoze. The only devices I have that run Linux are
> three
> NAS devices. Only one of them is dual core.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nslu2-linux@... <nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> nslu2-linux@... <nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of slackline
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:50 AM
> To: nslu2-linux@... <nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [nslu2-linux] Re: atop
>
> --- In nslu2-linux@... <nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com>, Don
> Muller <don@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's running on a QNAP NAS (x86). The feed is
> >
> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ts509/cross/stable/Packages.gz.
>
> Ok, so does the failure for the percentages to tally up happen on any other
> systems?
>
> Is your desktop computer multi-core? If so do you observe the same
> behaviour
> you've described with atop on that as you do on your QNAP?
>
> This would help identify whether the error is with atop in general or the
> specific build you are using.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>  
>



--
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.
- Laurence J. Peter

RE: Re: atop

by Don-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Maybe it's the intended behavior but is it the correct behavior?  If one line,
CPU, is intended to show the numbers for all cpus, in other words an overall
view of the system, how can a system be over 100% idle or busy or .? Maybe a new
line should be added that shows the average.

 

From: nslu2-linux@... [mailto:nslu2-linux@...] On Behalf
Of mig mac
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:12 PM
To: nslu2-linux@...
Subject: Re: [nslu2-linux] Re: atop

 



Hi,
I'm running atop v1.23 on a couple Ubuntu systems and both show CPU totals over
100%.
I believe that is the intended behavior.

from the atop man page:

       CPU  CPU utilization.
            At  least  one  line  is shown for the total occupation of all CPU's
            together....



On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Don Muller <don@...> wrote:

 

Sorry my desktop is Windoze. The only devices I have that run Linux are three
NAS devices. Only one of them is dual core.



-----Original Message-----
From: nslu2-linux@... <mailto:nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:nslu2-linux@... <mailto:nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of slackline

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:50 AM
To: nslu2-linux@... <mailto:nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [nslu2-linux] Re: atop

--- In nslu2-linux@... <mailto:nslu2-linux%40yahoogroups.com> , Don
Muller <don@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It's running on a QNAP NAS (x86). The feed is
> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ts509/cross/stable/Packages.gz.

Ok, so does the failure for the percentages to tally up happen on any other
systems?

Is your desktop computer multi-core? If so do you observe the same behaviour
you've described with atop on that as you do on your QNAP?

This would help identify whether the error is with atop in general or the
specific build you are using.

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links




--
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.
- Laurence J. Peter