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best pieces of timidity music?
by Zhang Weiwu
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Hello.
I am new to the midi world. I started my trial by listening to a piece of music from Bach (Johann_Sebastian_Bach-Christmas_Oratorio_-_Collegium_Vocale_Ghent) and compare to the same piece of music I downloaded somewhere on the Internet, the difference is huge, the music placed by timidity is un-listenable. I can hear the rhythm and no noise but the performance quality is far from the original record. So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example, may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question: where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and timidity reaches. I also know timidity can be equipped with different patches. I guess I have eawpatches installed by the package manger as default patches for timidity. Should I try other patches? e.g. I also found shompatches in my package manager (in gentoo linux). Best. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?
by A. Kalten
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:07:56 +0800
Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@...> wrote: > > I am new to the midi world. I started my trial by listening to a piece > of music from Bach > (Johann_Sebastian_Bach-Christmas_Oratorio_-_Collegium_Vocale_Ghent) and > compare to the same piece of music I downloaded somewhere on the > Internet, the difference is huge, the music placed by timidity is > un-listenable. I can hear the rhythm and no noise but the performance > quality is far from the original record. > > So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at > performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the > well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to > player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example, > may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question: > where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I > wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and > timidity reaches. > The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont that is used. With timidity and the proper soundfont, I can easily render Beethoven piano sonatas and Bach organ or harpsichord works that are virtually indistinguishable from human performances. Where to download soundfonts? Good repositories of free fonts are here: http://www.sf2midi.com http://www.hammersound.net http://members.shaw.ca/glitch/sffiles.html http://www.soundfonts.it/?a=soundfonts These fonts are in the sf2 format and timidity has to be configured a little differently to use them. See the README.sf file in the timidity documents directory for the details on how to set up the configuration file to load sf2 fonts. In my experience, solo keyboard works can be rendered with great fidelity using free fonts. Solo woodwind and brass compositions are also able to be faithfully reproduced. Stringed instruments generally tend to be less realistic and thus string quartets or complete symphonic works are not the best material for timidity. I have never used commercial fonts but success may be even greater with these. AK ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?
by bvdp
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> So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at > performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the > well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to > player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example, > may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question: > where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I > wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and > timidity reaches. > I created a CD of my own music earlier this year. The background tracks are created with MIDI rendered by timidity. Check it out at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars -- **** Listen to my CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars **** Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA ** EMAIL: bob@... WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?
by Zhang Weiwu
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A. Kalten wrote:
> The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi > renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont > that is used. Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?
by Bobby McNulty-6
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I only know a few from the 128 built in.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Zhang Weiwu" <zhangweiwu@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:23 PM To: "A. Kalten" <akalten@...> Cc: <timidity-talk@...> Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] best pieces of timidity music? > A. Kalten wrote: >> The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi >> renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont >> that is used. > Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality > of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own > sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that > professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Timidity-talk mailing list > Timidity-talk@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?
by A. Kalten
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:23:24 +0800
Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@...> wrote: > A. Kalten wrote: > > The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi > > renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont > > that is used. > Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality > of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own > sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that > professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:) > Patches and soundfonts are the same thing, except for the file format. Both contain the information that is necessary to recreate a musical instrument sound. TiMidity can use the PAT format (GUS patches) and also the more recent SF2 format (Soundblaster soundfonts). A separate patch or soundfont for each instrument is the best way to get high quality sound. But, for the sake of convenience, if you want to try an entire collection of General Midi sound fonts, I would recommend the Crisis GM set. It's a bit large at 1.6 Gigabytes but it has everything you'll need to listen to any midi file. Do a google search for "Crisis GM soundfont". The sound quality of the Crisis GM set is not as high as that obtained from individual fonts, however. Some instruments sound better than others. But for a quick review of a midi file the quality is good enough. Another good collection is the Fluid R3 GM soundfont. This is another large package and works well with TiMidity++. Do a google search for "Fluid R3 soundfont". The TiMidity configuration files for these sets (and others) can be found at the bottom of this page: http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/index.en.html Just drop them in and go. The best thing to know when experimenting with TiMidity is the mapping of the instruments. Each midi instrument is indicated by a number from 0 to 127. A good place to start is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI AK ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Timidity-talk mailing list Timidity-talk@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/timidity-talk |
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