blue 2 - Alpha available to test

[Steven Yi]

Hi all!

I've placed an alpha build of blue 2.0.0 at:

http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue.zip

I'm calling it an alpha as it's not yet feature complete (while beta
should be feature complete but may have bugs). If anything, it's for
early testers to check it out and give it a try to get a feel for
things.  There's a number of known issues:

-tabs render funny, as do window title bars
-time render lines only show at top time bar
-time log not implemented
-score navigator not implemented (am looking to implement on top of tempo area)
-manual not included yet (need to redo manual compilation into
javahelp to have in-program manual)
-OSX build not yet working (need to build on non-windows machine, will
try that tomorrow on linux)
-python interpreter takes longer on first run due to increased number
of jars on classpath (am planning to to kick-off a python initializer
in a thread after program starts in background)

I think you may be able to test this build with OSX by running the
blue\bin\blue script.  blue.exe in that bin directory should be used
for windows.

I'm sure there must be a few other things.  In general, the biggest
change is the UI, particularly using the Netbeans window manager,
which allows reorganizing elements and collapsing them to show up when
being used and to hide themself into the side or bottom when not used.
Program Options has also moved to "Tools->Options" though I may change
that location back to the file menu.

If you're interested in testing, please make backups of your .blue
directory as well as your projects before proceeding!  I'll be working
on fixing the known issues, then addressing some of the issues in the
bug/feature trackers for beta release, then fixing all outstanding
issues for final.

Any willing tester interested to check it out and give feedback would
be very much appreciated!

Thanks!
steven

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> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:02:28 -0400
> From: stevenyi@...
> To: bluemusic-users@...
> Subject: [Bluemusic-users] blue 2 - Alpha available to test
>
> Hi all!
>
> I've placed an alpha build of blue 2.0.0 at:
>
> http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue.zip
>
> I'm calling it an alpha as it's not yet feature complete (while beta
> should be feature complete but may have bugs). If anything, it's for
> early testers to check it out and give it a try to get a feel for
> things. There's a number of known issues:
>
> -tabs render funny, as do window title bars
> -time render lines only show at top time bar
> -time log not implemented
> -score navigator not implemented (am looking to implement on top of tempo area)
> -manual not included yet (need to redo manual compilation into
> javahelp to have in-program manual)
> -OSX build not yet working (need to build on non-windows machine, will
> try that tomorrow on linux)
> -python interpreter takes longer on first run due to increased number
> of jars on classpath (am planning to to kick-off a python initializer
> in a thread after program starts in background)
>
> I think you may be able to test this build with OSX by running the
> blue\bin\blue script. blue.exe in that bin directory should be used
> for windows.
>
> I'm sure there must be a few other things. In general, the biggest
> change is the UI, particularly using the Netbeans window manager,
> which allows reorganizing elements and collapsing them to show up when
> being used and to hide themself into the side or bottom when not used.
> Program Options has also moved to "Tools->Options" though I may change
> that location back to the file menu.
>
> If you're interested in testing, please make backups of your .blue
> directory as well as your projects before proceeding! I'll be working
> on fixing the known issues, then addressing some of the issues in the
> bug/feature trackers for beta release, then fixing all outstanding
> issues for final.
>
> Any willing tester interested to check it out and give feedback would
> be very much appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
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[Steven Yi]

Oops! I used SCP but didn't check the permissions. It should download
now, thanks for notifying me!

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marc D. Demers <mddemers@...> wrote:

> The link does not works...
>
> mdd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:02:28 -0400
>> From: stevenyi@...
>> To: bluemusic-users@...
>> Subject: [Bluemusic-users] blue 2 - Alpha available to test
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've placed an alpha build of blue 2.0.0 at:
>>
>> http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue.zip
>>
>> I'm calling it an alpha as it's not yet feature complete (while beta
>> should be feature complete but may have bugs). If anything, it's for
>> early testers to check it out and give it a try to get a feel for
>> things. There's a number of known issues:
>>
>> -tabs render funny, as do window title bars
>> -time render lines only show at top time bar
>> -time log not implemented
>> -score navigator not implemented (am looking to implement on top of tempo
>> area)
>> -manual not included yet (need to redo manual compilation into
>> javahelp to have in-program manual)
>> -OSX build not yet working (need to build on non-windows machine, will
>> try that tomorrow on linux)
>> -python interpreter takes longer on first run due to increased number
>> of jars on classpath (am planning to to kick-off a python initializer
>> in a thread after program starts in background)
>>
>> I think you may be able to test this build with OSX by running the
>> blue\bin\blue script. blue.exe in that bin directory should be used
>> for windows.
>>
>> I'm sure there must be a few other things. In general, the biggest
>> change is the UI, particularly using the Netbeans window manager,
>> which allows reorganizing elements and collapsing them to show up when
>> being used and to hide themself into the side or bottom when not used.
>> Program Options has also moved to "Tools->Options" though I may change
>> that location back to the file menu.
>>
>> If you're interested in testing, please make backups of your .blue
>> directory as well as your projects before proceeding! I'll be working
>> on fixing the known issues, then addressing some of the issues in the
>> bug/feature trackers for beta release, then fixing all outstanding
>> issues for final.
>>
>> Any willing tester interested to check it out and give feedback would
>> be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>>
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[menno]

my report for now:
- love the looks! A clean and fresh feeling. And now i can look at the orchestra and at the score at the same time, great, now i dont have to guess what that p-field was standing for. Also the mixer is more practical this way i think. The Keymap is great.
The export option for Options is cool too, will come in handy for changing between the different soundcards i have.
The toolbar windows for TO and PlayTime are too tiny here, a part from the numbers can not to be seen. And the units of the toolbar are too close too each other here, they need some space i think.
Now other some issues that needs attention:
- The drivers for the ins and outs in Tools/realtime rendering dont work.using Portaudio causes the error: Could not discover devices for this driver. and Portmidi reports a weird message in Midi out
- no F7 Csound console
- the way the cursor is right now works good. On my system running Blue Classic it took 40% op my CPU power with a cursor refreshing rate of 15, now it takes about 5, an acceptable value i think. And i think it looks better this way too :)

I will carry on testing (by using it)

Menno

[Steven Yi]

Hi Menno!

Thabks for the feedback! The main toolbar is definitely meant to
expand all the way across the app and worked when I was using Netbeans
6.5 but changed when I moved to 6.7. I have it on my list to
investigate. I fixed up a few things over the weekend but am in the
middle of fixing up the styling of the tabs which has turned out to be
a bit complicated. Hopefully can get through that tonight or tomorrow.

As for output, it has moved to the Output window which should be
available from the window menu and I think may be Ctrl-Shift-O to
open. The netbeans output has some nice features for filtering and
controlling font size which should be useful.

I'm also glad to hear of the reduction in cpu for the time pointers
but wonder if it will spike back up after the fix this weekend to get
the time pointer showing on the score time canvas. If so then maybe an
option should be added to show full or partial time pointer would be
good. I'll be interested to hear after I put out another alpha (should
be within next few days).

Thanks!
Steven



On 10/12/09, menno <nabob_cd@...> wrote:

>
> my report for now:
> - love the looks! A clean and fresh feeling. And now i can look at the
> orchestra and at the score at the same time, great, now i dont have to guess
> what that p-field was standing for. Also the mixer is more practical this
> way i think. The Keymap is great.
> The export option for Options is cool too, will come in handy for changing
> between the different soundcards i have.
> The toolbar windows for TO and PlayTime are too tiny here, a part from the
> numbers can not to be seen. And the units of the toolbar are too close too
> each other here, they need some space i think.
> Now other some issues that needs attention:
> - The drivers for the ins and outs in Tools/realtime rendering dont
> work.using Portaudio causes the error: Could not discover devices for this
> driver. and Portmidi reports a weird message in Midi out
> - no F7 Csound console
> - the way the cursor is right now works good. On my system running Blue
> Classic it took 40% op my CPU power with a cursor refreshing rate of 15, now
> it takes about 5, an acceptable value i think. And i think it looks better
> this way too :)
>
> I will carry on testing (by using it)
>
> Menno
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[menno]

>Thabks for the feedback! The main toolbar is definitely meant to
>expand all the way across the app and worked when I was using Netbeans
>6.5 but changed when I moved to 6.7. I have it on my list to
>investigate. I fixed up a few things over the weekend but am in the
>middle of fixing up the styling of the tabs which has turned out to be
>a bit complicated. Hopefully can get through that tonight or tomorrow.

Maybe it's not an issue anymore but i've attached a PNG file to let you see what happens here.

>As for output, it has moved to the Output window which should be
>available from the window menu and I think may be Ctrl-Shift-O to
>open. The netbeans output has some nice features for filtering and
>controlling font size which should be useful.

i found the Output window but it remains empty when rendering. the cursor is there, it blinks but that's it.

Also the next issues:
- name of project when saved does not show on the top of the screen of Blue
- saving dialog is not correct? Says "open" , not "save"

So far this report from the Netherlands!

Menno

Clipboard01.png

[menno]

sorry for the mess, i thought it would attach the PNG file instead of showing it all over...

Menno

[edexter5]

just going by the picture it looks like it could use the descriptions in the spreadsheet control so that it is easier to look at

menno wrote:

sorry for the mess, i thought it would attach the PNG file instead of showing it all over...

Menno

[Steven Yi]

Hi Menno,

I've been extremely busy with my job work this week and fixing up the
toolbar sizing has taken much more time than expected.  I'm also
leaving tomorrow for a weekend trip so will not have a chance to issue
a new build until Sunday at the earlier (though more likely sometime
into next week, we'll see what I can get done on the airplane!).

As for the output window, if you highlight text is it there just in
black?  Also, I see a strange icon on the toolbar in your screenshot
which I do not see here which is curious.  What OS and version are you
using (looks like some linux but not sure what window manager you are
using)?  And what version of Java are you using (java -version)?  I
can see about installing the exact OS version you are using into a
virtual machine to diagnose the output window.

Thanks!
steven

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, menno <nabob_cd@...> wrote:

>
>>Thabks for the feedback! The main toolbar is definitely meant to
>>expand all the way across the app and worked when I was using Netbeans
>>6.5 but changed when I moved to 6.7. I have it on my list to
>>investigate. I fixed up a few things over the weekend but am in the
>>middle of fixing up the styling of the tabs which has turned out to be
>>a bit complicated. Hopefully can get through that tonight or tomorrow.
>
> Maybe it's not an issue anymore but i've attached a PNG file to let you see
> what happens here.
>
>>As for output, it has moved to the Output window which should be
>>available from the window menu and I think may be Ctrl-Shift-O to
>>open. The netbeans output has some nice features for filtering and
>>controlling font size which should be useful.
>
> i found the Output window but it remains empty when rendering. the cursor is
> there, it blinks but that's it.
>
> Also the next issues:
> - name of project when saved does not show on the top of the screen of Blue
> - saving dialog is not correct? Says "open" , not "save"
>
> So far this report from the Netherlands!
>
> Menno
>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p25862333/Clipboard01.png
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p25862333/Clipboard01.png Clipboard01.png
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[menno]

Steven Yi wrote:

As for the output window, if you highlight text is it there just in
black?  Also, I see a strange icon on the toolbar in your screenshot
which I do not see here which is curious.  What OS and version are you
using (looks like some linux but not sure what window manager you are
using)?  And what version of Java are you using (java -version)?  I
can see about installing the exact OS version you are using into a
virtual machine to diagnose the output window.

I use XP, Java 1.6.0_13.
You're right, with Ctl+A i get to see the text of the Output, so it must be printed in black :)
The strange icon you see is one of the features i tried out; you can drag and drop shortcut icons from the "Customize Toolbars" window under View.

I use Blue2 alpha as if it was 0.125 and seems pretty stable.

greetings
Menno