broadway cafe

[jezza-b]

hey everyone,
we didn't quite make it for the last "letsmakegames". Our broadway cafe game for the iPhone has finally been released.

http://www.istpika.com/en/press-releases/219/

It connects to facebook and operates in English, Japanese and Korean.

[David Keep]

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Congrats, it looks really cool.

> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 19:14:44 -0700
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> Subject: [PIGMI] broadway cafe
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> hey everyone,
> we didn't quite make it for the last "letsmakegames". Our broadway cafe game
> for the iPhone has finally been released.
>
> http://www.istpika.com/en/press-releases/219/
>
> It connects to facebook and operates in English, Japanese and Korean.
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[Andy H-3]

Congrats!

> hey everyone,
> we didn't quite make it for the last "letsmakegames". Our broadway cafe game
> for the iPhone has finally been released.
>
> http://www.istpika.com/en/press-releases/219/
>
> It connects to facebook and operates in English, Japanese and Korean.
>
>
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[jezza-b]

Tah. sales are not too bad at the moment.

But on the onther hand ...
We run a leaderboard server which tracks each player.
By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of registered users are using pirated copies.
By doing a bit of hunting it was easy to find the cracked copies floating about.
We're considering methods to block the pirates :)

Andy H-3 wrote:

Congrats!

> hey everyone,
> we didn't quite make it for the last "letsmakegames". Our broadway cafe game
> for the iPhone has finally been released.
>
> http://www.istpika.com/en/press-releases/219/
>
> It connects to facebook and operates in English, Japanese and Korean.
>
>
>  


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[Simon Wittber-2]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, jezza-b<jeremy.b@...> wrote:
> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of registered
> users are using pirated copies.

Wow. 80%. That makes me feel ill, and sad.



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[AndyDent]

On 09/09/2009, at 11:20 AM, jezza-b wrote:

> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of  
> registered
> users are using pirated copies.

Last time I ranted about this, people didn't believe me ;-(

Your experience matches what I have read over the last 6 months on  
various blogs and especially the iPhoneSB group.

Do you think naming and shaming on the leaderboards is a viable  
tactic, or interfering with high scores?

I'm in design mode at present trying to decide if anti-piracy should  
be considered part of community services.

This might be a good way to decide between OpenFeint et al.

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[Paul Turbett-3]

If your "anti-piracy" tactics turn pirates into buyers, then they are
worthwhile. Otherwise, you are wasting your time.

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From: Andy Dent [mailto:dent@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:02 PM
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Subject: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe


On 09/09/2009, at 11:20 AM, jezza-b wrote:

> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of  
> registered
> users are using pirated copies.

Last time I ranted about this, people didn't believe me ;-(

Your experience matches what I have read over the last 6 months on  
various blogs and especially the iPhoneSB group.

Do you think naming and shaming on the leaderboards is a viable  
tactic, or interfering with high scores?

I'm in design mode at present trying to decide if anti-piracy should  
be considered part of community services.

This might be a good way to decide between OpenFeint et al.

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[Simon Wittber-2]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Paul Turbett<sls@...> wrote:
> If your "anti-piracy" tactics turn pirates into buyers, then they are
> worthwhile. Otherwise, you are wasting your time.

Hmm there is a profound piece of wisdom in that sentence. I like the
idea. I feel better now.

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[Joel Blackwell]

I agree.  It's possible to turn pirates into purchasers, but at the end
of the day your time will likely be better spent making another (better)
game, or working on your marketing.

-Joel


Paul Turbett wrote:

> If your "anti-piracy" tactics turn pirates into buyers, then they are
> worthwhile. Otherwise, you are wasting your time.
>
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> From: Andy Dent [mailto:dent@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:02 PM
> To: pigmi@...
> Subject: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe
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> On 09/09/2009, at 11:20 AM, jezza-b wrote:
>
>> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of  
>> registered
>> users are using pirated copies.
>
> Last time I ranted about this, people didn't believe me ;-(
>
> Your experience matches what I have read over the last 6 months on  
> various blogs and especially the iPhoneSB group.
>
> Do you think naming and shaming on the leaderboards is a viable  
> tactic, or interfering with high scores?
>
> I'm in design mode at present trying to decide if anti-piracy should  
> be considered part of community services.
>
> This might be a good way to decide between OpenFeint et al.
>
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[Ellen Jurik]

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Personally, I'd be inclined to let them get away with one game, but be much harsher with the second. That way, if they like your first game good enough to want the second (no questions asked), they'll pay for it :)

I wish people were content with free demos without wanting the steal the whole game. And I hope that no one in the scene in Perth is doing any pirating! That would be a bit like backstabbing, really :(

Ellen

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From: Joel Blackwell <joel@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009 2:22:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe

I agree.  It's possible to turn pirates into purchasers, but at the end of the day your time will likely be better spent making another (better) game, or working on your marketing.

-Joel


Paul Turbett wrote:

> If your "anti-piracy" tactics turn pirates into buyers, then they are
> worthwhile. Otherwise, you are wasting your time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Dent [mailto:dent@...] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:02 PM
> To: pigmi@...
> Subject: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe
>
>
> On 09/09/2009, at 11:20 AM, jezza-b wrote:
>
>> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of  registered
>> users are using pirated copies.
>
> Last time I ranted about this, people didn't believe me ;-(
>
> Your experience matches what I have read over the last 6 months on  various blogs and especially the iPhoneSB group.
>
> Do you think naming and shaming on the leaderboards is a viable  tactic, or interfering with high scores?
>
> I'm in design mode at present trying to decide if anti-piracy should  be considered part of community services.
>
> This might be a good way to decide between OpenFeint et al.
>
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[Liam Jones-3]

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I'm not really part of the iPhone scene at all, but I'm somewhat surprised that there is so much piracy when (as far as I know), most apps/games are $1-2? That is correct, right? I recently bought a game called 'Droplitz' on Steam for $2, and just kind of find it hard that anyone would both pirate a title they can get for a matter of dollars? I mean, I barely thought about purchasing Droplitz. I wasn't even expecting to like it that much, it was just so cheap I was willing to give it a go - I've certainly spent a lot more and been burnt.

I guess part of the difference is that (again, as far as I know) titles don't sell for $80-$100 dollars on the iPhone, while they obviously do on the PC, so the relative tingling of the 'Bargain-Sense' is less. 

Just my rambling thoughts on the matter.

Note: Being Steam, it was obviously US dollars. Also, Droplitz is now $10, a price where I start giving things more scrutiny. 

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:31:46 -0700
From: sunlightsylph@...
To: pigmi@...
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe

Personally, I'd be inclined to let them get away with one game, but be much harsher with the second. That way, if they like your first game good enough to want the second (no questions asked), they'll pay for it :)

I wish people were content with free demos without wanting the steal the whole game. And I hope that no one in the scene in Perth is doing any pirating! That would be a bit like backstabbing, really :(

Ellen

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From: Joel Blackwell <joel@...>
To: pigmi@...
Sent: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009 2:22:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe

I agree.  It's possible to turn pirates into purchasers, but at the end of the day your time will likely be better spent making another (better) game, or working on your marketing.

-Joel


Paul Turbett wrote:

> If your "anti-piracy" tactics turn pirates into buyers, then they are
> worthwhile. Otherwise, you are wasting your time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Dent [mailto:dent@...] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:02 PM
> To: pigmi@...
> Subject: [PIGMI] Piracy and Leaderboards? Re: [PIGMI] broadway cafe
>
>
> On 09/09/2009, at 11:20 AM, jezza-b wrote:
>
>> By comparing real sales to access data, we've found that 80% of  registered
>> users are using pirated copies.
>
> Last time I ranted about this, people didn't believe me ;-(
>
> Your experience matches what I have read over the last 6 months on  various blogs and especially the iPhoneSB group.
>
> Do you think naming and shaming on the leaderboards is a viable  tactic, or interfering with high scores?
>
> I'm in design mode at present trying to decide if anti-piracy should  be considered part of community services.
>
> This might be a good way to decide between OpenFeint et al.
>
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