cannot start x - ThinkPad T42

[Josh Battles]

I've got a T42 (2373JTU) and I'm having problems getting xorg to run.  I was
running debian testing on for about a year and decided to do a fresh install
of debian unstable the other night.

When I type in the startx command the screen flashes and I get the following
messages:

Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

and

waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

I've checked the logfile (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) and can't see any warnings,
errors, or messages that would indicate what sort of problem this is.  I even
attempted to use the previous xorg.conf I'd been running under the testing
install to no avail.

What am I missing here?  A point in the right direction would be greatly
appreciated.  A quick google tells me that there's some other setting I've
got wrong that's preventing X from starting but I can't think of what it
could be.

Also, what drivers are you guys using now?  Is there a tutorial/faq/wiki for
using them?

Thanks

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[Carlos Moffat-3]

Hi Joe,

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 09:41 -0600, Josh Battles wrote:
> I've got a T42 (2373JTU) and I'm having problems getting xorg to run.  I was
> running debian testing on for about a year and decided to do a fresh install
> of debian unstable the other night.
>
> When I type in the startx command the screen flashes and I get the following
> messages:
>
> Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!
>

I get this messages too. I think they're harmless

> and
>
> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
>

I don't get this, but you could remove the 'misc' font section in
xorg.conf and see what happends.

> I've checked the logfile (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) and can't see any warnings,
> errors, or messages that would indicate what sort of problem this is.  I even
> attempted to use the previous xorg.conf I'd been running under the testing
> install to no avail.
>
> What am I missing here?  A point in the right direction would be greatly
> appreciated.  A quick google tells me that there's some other setting I've
> got wrong that's preventing X from starting but I can't think of what it
> could be.
>
> Also, what drivers are you guys using now?  Is there a tutorial/faq/wiki for
> using them?
>
> Thanks

What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
instead.

Cheers,
Carlos

[Tino Keitel]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:41:42 -0600, Josh Battles wrote:
> I've got a T42 (2373JTU) and I'm having problems getting xorg to run.  I was
> running debian testing on for about a year and decided to do a fresh install
> of debian unstable the other night.
>
> When I type in the startx command the screen flashes and I get the following
> messages:
>
> Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Not relevant.
>
> and
>
> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

Not relevant.

>
> I've checked the logfile (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) and can't see any warnings,
> errors, or messages that would indicate what sort of problem this is.  I even
> attempted to use the previous xorg.conf I'd been running under the testing
> install to no avail.
>
> What am I missing here?  A point in the right direction would be greatly
> appreciated.  A quick google tells me that there's some other setting I've

grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Regards,
Tino
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[Wolfgang Karall-2]

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> instead.

I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
(well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
soon, and dual-head seems broken).

What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
PCI-Express card)

Regards
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[Carlos Moffat-3]

Hi,

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:

> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > instead.
>
> I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> soon, and dual-head seems broken).
>
> What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> PCI-Express card)
>

Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "radeon"
        Driver      "radeon"
        Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
        # enable PowerPlay features
        Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
        # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
        Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
EndSection

If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
until I can find the problem and I'll report back.

Cheers
Carlos

> Regards
> WK
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>

[Carlos Moffat-3]

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > instead.
> >
> > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> >
> > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > PCI-Express card)
> >
>
> Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
>
> Section "Device"
>         Identifier  "radeon"
>         Driver      "radeon"
>         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
>         # enable PowerPlay features
>         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
>         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
>         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> EndSection
>
> If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
>
> Cheers
> Carlos
>

I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
email. Back to square 1.

Carlos

> > Regards
> > WK
> > --
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> >

[Josh Battles]

On Fri, January 20, 2006 10:04 am, Tino Keitel wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:41:42 -0600, Josh Battles wrote:
>> I've checked the logfile (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) and can't see any warnings,
>> errors, or messages that would indicate what sort of problem this is.  I
>> even
>> attempted to use the previous xorg.conf I'd been running under the testing
>> install to no avail.
>>
>> What am I missing here?  A point in the right direction would be greatly
>> appreciated.  A quick google tells me that there's some other setting I've
>
> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

This command returns:

(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

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[Josh Battles]

On Fri, January 20, 2006 9:54 am, Carlos Moffat wrote:

> What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> instead.

I'm using the ati driver.  I hadn't attempted to use the radeon driver yet.
I wanted to get a workable system before I started screwing with it.

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:

> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > > instead.
> > >
> > > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> > >
> > > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > > PCI-Express card)
> > >
> >
> > Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> > X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> > since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> > and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> > glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
> >
> > Section "Device"
> >         Identifier  "radeon"
> >         Driver      "radeon"
> >         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
> >         # enable PowerPlay features
> >         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
> >         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
> >         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> > EndSection
> >
> > If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> > until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Carlos
> >
>
>
> I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
> email. Back to square 1.
>

Try removing/disabling acpid.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345537
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347680

[Carlos Moffat-3]

On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 08:56 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > > > instead.
> > > >
> > > > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > > > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > > > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > > > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > > > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> > > >
> > > > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > > > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > > > PCI-Express card)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> > > X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> > > since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> > > and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> > > glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
> > >
> > > Section "Device"
> > >         Identifier  "radeon"
> > >         Driver      "radeon"
> > >         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
> > >         # enable PowerPlay features
> > >         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
> > >         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
> > >         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > > If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> > > until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Carlos
> > >
> >
> >
> > I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
> > email. Back to square 1.
> >
>
> Try removing/disabling acpid.
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345537
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347680
>

Mmh. I kind of need acpi. :)

Carlos

On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 08:56 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > > > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > > > > instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > > > > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > > > > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > > > > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > > > > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> > > > >
> > > > > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > > > > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > > > > PCI-Express card)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> > > > X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> > > > since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> > > > and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> > > > glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
> > > >
> > > > Section "Device"
> > > >         Identifier  "radeon"
> > > >         Driver      "radeon"
> > > >         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
> > > >         # enable PowerPlay features
> > > >         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
> > > >         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
> > > >         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> > > > until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
> > > email. Back to square 1.
> > >
> >
> > Try removing/disabling acpid.
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345537
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347680
> >
>
> Mmh. I kind of need acpi. :)

Yeah, me too.  But just try it to see if that's the problem.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:12:03PM -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 08:56 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > > > > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > > > > > instead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > > > > > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > > > > > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > > > > > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > > > > > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > > > > > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > > > > > PCI-Express card)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> > > > > X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> > > > > since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> > > > > and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> > > > > glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
> > > > >
> > > > > Section "Device"
> > > > >         Identifier  "radeon"
> > > > >         Driver      "radeon"
> > > > >         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
> > > > >         # enable PowerPlay features
> > > > >         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
> > > > >         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
> > > > >         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> > > > > EndSection
> > > > >
> > > > > If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> > > > > until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
> > > > email. Back to square 1.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try removing/disabling acpid.
> > >
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345537
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347680
> > >
> >
> > Mmh. I kind of need acpi. :)
>
> Yeah, me too.  But just try it to see if that's the problem.
>

I switched to the vesa driver and now I'm not freezing anymore.

[Carlos Moffat-3]

On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 17:34 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:12:03PM -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 08:56 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:23 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:52 +0100, Wolfgang Karall wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:54 -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > > > > > > > What driver are you using? The radeon driver is broken right now in
> > > > > > > > Debian (and, I think, all distros using Xorg 6.9) so I'm using vesa
> > > > > > > > instead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've read lots of hints toward radeon being broken in Debian, but I'm
> > > > > > > happily using xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 right now without any problems
> > > > > > > (well, apart from the EmulateWheelClick not working after it worked in
> > > > > > > the experimental pre-releases, I just hope the patch from
> > > > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 makes it into Debian
> > > > > > > soon, and dual-head seems broken).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What exactly is the problem? Too many bugreports on xserver-xorg, any
> > > > > > > specific one? Or is it DRI-related? (no DRI for me atm with the
> > > > > > > PCI-Express card)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, the problem was I was getting a hard freeze shortly after login to
> > > > > > X11. After your message, I tried the radeon driver again (I hadn't,
> > > > > > since they haven't touched the radeon driver since the upgrade to 6.9)
> > > > > > and presto, it is working!! (at least for the last hour or so). I have
> > > > > > glx and DRI loaded, but I've simplified my Device section to look like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Section "Device"
> > > > > >         Identifier  "radeon"
> > > > > >         Driver      "radeon"
> > > > > >         Option          "RenderAccel" "on"
> > > > > >         # enable PowerPlay features
> > > > > >         Option          "DynamicClocks" "on"
> > > > > >         # use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
> > > > > >         Option          "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
> > > > > > EndSection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I don't get a lockup soon, I'll try to turn some other options on
> > > > > > until I can find the problem and I'll report back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Carlos
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke too soon. I got a freeze 5 minutes after sending my previous
> > > > > email. Back to square 1.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try removing/disabling acpid.
> > > >
> > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345537
> > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347680
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mmh. I kind of need acpi. :)
> >
> > Yeah, me too.  But just try it to see if that's the problem.
> >
>
> I switched to the vesa driver and now I'm not freezing anymore.

Yeah, that's what we're all doing, I think :)

Carlos

[Marius Gedminas]

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:42:07PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 17:34 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > I switched to the vesa driver and now I'm not freezing anymore.
>
> Yeah, that's what we're all doing, I think :)

The radeon driver works fine on my T42.  I still use Xorg 6.8.2 from
Ubuntu Breezy.

Marius Gedminas
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[Carlos Moffat-3]

On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 11:28 +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:42:07PM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 17:34 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> > > I switched to the vesa driver and now I'm not freezing anymore.
> >
> > Yeah, that's what we're all doing, I think :)
>
> The radeon driver works fine on my T42.  I still use Xorg 6.8.2 from
> Ubuntu Breezy.
>

The problem seems to be Xorg 6.9 (at least in Debian)

> Marius Gedminas

[Theodore Tso]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 10:22:17AM -0500, Carlos Moffat wrote:
> > The radeon driver works fine on my T42.  I still use Xorg 6.8.2 from
> > Ubuntu Breezy.
> >
>
> The problem seems to be Xorg 6.9 (at least in Debian)

Indeed; I made the mistake of doing an "apt-get upgrade" a week before
leaving for linux.conf.au, and it completely destablized my system,
*and* caused the VGA output to be disabled; a problem if you're giving
a presentation at a conference!

Downgrading to 6.8.2 fixed the problem.  I'm going to be keeping a
backup copy of xserver-xorg_6.8.2.dfsg.1-11_i386.deb around for a
while until the latest Debian unstable xserver is usable again...

                                                - Ted


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