category autocompletion feature request/bug fix

[blist-2]

Team,

I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category when the payee is entered.

Here is the sequence for the problem.

In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.  Complete the transaction and select "enter".

In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled with the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For me, this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.

I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for the same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it be possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you start a new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the payee field autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same ledger?

TIA,

--
mikkl
PCLinuxOS 2007a
Registered Linux User #430720

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[allan-52]

blist wrote:
> Team,
>
> I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category
when the payee is entered.
>
> Here is the sequence for the problem.
>
> In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.  
Complete the transaction and select "enter".
> In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled
with the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For
me, this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
>
> I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for
the same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category
field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it
be possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you
start a new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the
payee field autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same
ledger?
>
> TIA,
>

It was I who requested the payee field be auto-filled, to allow for
further transactions for the same payee.

That said, as things are now, though, it appears that the payee is not
actually entered, and I have to for instance, delete the last character,
which then produces the drop-down from which the payee may be selected.
 Then, however, no dialog of recent transactions is produced to allow
selection of the appropriate category.  (I do not use category
auto-completion here, as I still need to select an appropriate category.)

So although the present arrangement is not perfect, I would not wish to
lose it.  Improvements are always welcome, though.

Allan

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[allan-52]

allan wrote:

> blist wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category
> when the payee is entered.
>> Here is the sequence for the problem.
>>
>> In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.  
> Complete the transaction and select "enter".
>> In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled
> with the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For
> me, this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
>> I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for
> the same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category
> field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it
> be possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you
> start a new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the
> payee field autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same
> ledger?
>> TIA,
>>
>
> It was I who requested the payee field be auto-filled, to allow for
> further transactions for the same payee.
>
> That said, as things are now, though, it appears that the payee is not
> actually entered, and I have to for instance, delete the last character,
> which then produces the drop-down from which the payee may be selected.
>  Then, however, no dialog of recent transactions is produced to allow
> selection of the appropriate category.  (I do not use category
> auto-completion here, as I still need to select an appropriate category.)
>
> So although the present arrangement is not perfect, I would not wish to
> lose it.  Improvements are always welcome, though.
>
> Allan
>

There was a response from Brian:-
"Ideally, I would rather see this feature expanded to meet you original
intent or be an option in the settings that could be disabled.
Personally, I find it creates more typing due to the category field not
being filled in automatically.

Brian",
but not from the developers, unless I've missed it.

Would it be possible, please, when convenient, for this to be revisited?

Thanks

Allan



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[Mike Gratis]

I was just getting ready to make a post, then noticed this one mirroring what
I was looking for.  I'm using KMM 1.0.2 in openSUSE 11.2.  It seems to me at
one point in previous versions of KMM, I could start to enter a transaction,
let's say to "Joe's Hardware", and a list would pop up giving me the option
to pick a previous transaction to enter.  That's still true; but if the next
transaction is the same Payee, nothing pops up and I have to enter everything
manually.  If I'm missing something, please feel free to point me in the
right direction.    ;-)

Thanks,

Mike



On Sunday 13 September 2009, blist wrote the following words of wisdom:

> Team,
>
> I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category when
> the payee is entered.
>
> Here is the sequence for the problem.
>
> In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.
> Complete the transaction and select "enter".
>
> In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled with
> the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For me,
> this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
>
> I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for the
> same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category
> field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it be
> possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you start a
> new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the payee field
> autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same ledger?
>
> TIA,

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mike Gratis
<ironman.capecod@...> wrote:
> I was just getting ready to make a post, then noticed this one mirroring what
> I was looking for.  I'm using KMM 1.0.2 in openSUSE 11.2.  It seems to me at
> one point in previous versions of KMM, I could start to enter a transaction,
> let's say to "Joe's Hardware", and a list would pop up giving me the option
> to pick a previous transaction to enter.  That's still true; but if the next
> transaction is the same Payee, nothing pops up and I have to enter everything
> manually.  If I'm missing something, please feel free to point me in the
> right direction.    ;-)
I can confirm this behavior, it has been bothering me too :) but I
just haven't had the time to take a look at it .

> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Sunday 13 September 2009, blist wrote the following words of wisdom:
>
>> Team,
>>
>> I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category when
>> the payee is entered.
>>
>> Here is the sequence for the problem.
>>
>> In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.
>> Complete the transaction and select "enter".
>>
>> In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled with
>> the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For me,
>> this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
>>
>> I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for the
>> same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category
>> field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it be
>> possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you start a
>> new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the payee field
>> autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same ledger?
>>
>> TIA,
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
> Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
> _______________________________________________
> KMyMoney2-user mailing list
> KMyMoney2-user@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[Thomas Baumgart]

On Friday 13 November 2009 12:57:37 Mike Gratis wrote:

> I was just getting ready to make a post, then noticed this one mirroring
> what I was looking for.  I'm using KMM 1.0.2 in openSUSE 11.2.  It seems to
> me at one point in previous versions of KMM, I could start to enter a
> transaction, let's say to "Joe's Hardware", and a list would pop up giving
> me the option to pick a previous transaction to enter.  That's still true;
> but if the next transaction is the same Payee, nothing pops up and I have
> to enter everything manually.  If I'm missing something, please feel free
> to point me in the right direction.    ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> On Sunday 13 September 2009, blist wrote the following words of wisdom:
> > Team,
> >
> > I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category
> > when the payee is entered.
> >
> > Here is the sequence for the problem.
> >
> > In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.
> > Complete the transaction and select "enter".
> >
> > In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled with
> > the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For me,
> > this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
> >
> > I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for
> > the same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the
> > category field does not function due to the behavior I described above.
> > Would it be possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in
> > when you start a new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT
> > have the payee field autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the
> > same ledger?

This is a known bug which is hard to fix with the current setup. Sorry for the
inconvenience.  Not sure if there is an option to turn off the re-use (which
causes the trouble).

--

Regards

Thomas Baumgart

GPG-FP: E55E D592 F45F 116B 8429   4F99 9C59 DB40 B75D D3BA
-------------------------------------------------------------
morphir: so much confusion :S kmake, kdemake, qmake make cmake etc.
logixoul: you forgot cmakekde :)
morphir: and bakemeacake
-------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[Mike Gratis]

On Friday 13 November 2009, you wrote the following words of wisdom:

> On Friday 13 November 2009 12:57:37 Mike Gratis wrote:
> > I was just getting ready to make a post, then noticed this one mirroring
> > what I was looking for.  I'm using KMM 1.0.2 in openSUSE 11.2.  It seems
> > to me at one point in previous versions of KMM, I could start to enter a
> > transaction, let's say to "Joe's Hardware", and a list would pop up
> > giving me the option to pick a previous transaction to enter.  That's
> > still true; but if the next transaction is the same Payee, nothing pops
> > up and I have to enter everything manually.  If I'm missing something,
> > please feel free to point me in the right direction.    ;-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sunday 13 September 2009, blist wrote the following words of wisdom:
> > > Team,
> > >
> > > I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category
> > > when the payee is entered.
> > >
> > > Here is the sequence for the problem.
> > >
> > > In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.
> > > Complete the transaction and select "enter".
> > >
> > > In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled
> > > with the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.
> > > For me, this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
> > >
> > > I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for
> > > the same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the
> > > category field does not function due to the behavior I described above.
> > > Would it be possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in
> > > when you start a new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT
> > > have the payee field autopopulated when starting a new transaction in
> > > the same ledger?
>
> This is a known bug which is hard to fix with the current setup. Sorry for
> the inconvenience.  Not sure if there is an option to turn off the re-use
> (which causes the trouble).

Thanks for the input.  My quick work-around has been to right mouse click on
the previous transaction and select "Duplicate"; but it doesn't always
accomplish what I was able to do with the pop-up list, especially if I'm
entering different info on certain transactions.  It gets me by,
though....    ;-)

Mike


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[footer1]

Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
enter my transactions at the end of the day.

I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
account before.

These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...

Thanks KMyMoney Team!  I'm using 1.0.2 on Kubuntu 9.10.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Cristian Oneţ <onet.cristian@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mike Gratis
> <ironman.capecod@...> wrote:
>> I was just getting ready to make a post, then noticed this one mirroring what
>> I was looking for.  I'm using KMM 1.0.2 in openSUSE 11.2.  It seems to me at
>> one point in previous versions of KMM, I could start to enter a transaction,
>> let's say to "Joe's Hardware", and a list would pop up giving me the option
>> to pick a previous transaction to enter.  That's still true; but if the next
>> transaction is the same Payee, nothing pops up and I have to enter everything
>> manually.  If I'm missing something, please feel free to point me in the
>> right direction.    ;-)
> I can confirm this behavior, it has been bothering me too :) but I
> just haven't had the time to take a look at it .
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday 13 September 2009, blist wrote the following words of wisdom:
>>
>>> Team,
>>>
>>> I have a feature request regarding the autocompletion of the category when
>>> the payee is entered.
>>>
>>> Here is the sequence for the problem.
>>>
>>> In a ledger, enter a payee where the default category is specified.
>>> Complete the transaction and select "enter".
>>>
>>> In the same ledger, open a new transaction.  The payee is autofilled with
>>> the previously entered payee.  The category is NOT autofilled.  For me,
>>> this is either a bug or the need for a feature request.
>>>
>>> I frequently find myself sequentially entering several transactions for the
>>> same payee.  After the first entry, the autocompletion of the category
>>> field does not function due to the behavior I described above.  Would it be
>>> possible to have All of the autocomplete fields filled in when you start a
>>> new transaction?  Alternatively, is there a way to NOT have the payee field
>>> autopopulated when starting a new transaction in the same ledger?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
>> Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
>> _______________________________________________
>> KMyMoney2-user mailing list
>> KMyMoney2-user@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
> Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
> _______________________________________________
> KMyMoney2-user mailing list
> KMyMoney2-user@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
> enter my transactions at the end of the day.

I think this is the setting:
Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill

> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
> account before.
>
> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...

It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!

--
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[footer1]

> I think this is the setting:
> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill

Well, yes, that is the setting.  But it still brings up the same
Payee, just prevents the previous transactions from coming up.  This
is NOT the behavior I would like to see.  I like the Autofill, I want
the previous transactions to come up, whether I've paid that Payee
from that account or not.  However, when I'm entering multiple
transactions, I don't necessarily want the SAME Payee to come up
again!  Does that makes sense?  That's the behavior I'd like to
control.  In a nutshell:  leave autofill on, turn same Payee (?) off.

As I mentioned before, these are really nits, it's simple to just plug
in another Payee when entering multiple transactions.

Good job KMyMoney team!

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, kap4lin <kap4lin@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
>> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
>> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
>> enter my transactions at the end of the day.
>
> I think this is the setting:
> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>
>> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
>> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
>> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
>> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
>> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
>> account before.
>>
>> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...
>
> It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
> one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
> everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
> saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!
>
> --
> Regards
> PK
> --------------------------------------
> http://counter.li.org  #402424
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[allan anderson]

Footer wrote:

>> I think this is the setting:
>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>
> Well, yes, that is the setting.  But it still brings up the same
> Payee, just prevents the previous transactions from coming up.  This
> is NOT the behavior I would like to see.  I like the Autofill, I want
> the previous transactions to come up, whether I've paid that Payee
> from that account or not.  However, when I'm entering multiple
> transactions, I don't necessarily want the SAME Payee to come up
> again!  Does that makes sense?  That's the behavior I'd like to
> control.  In a nutshell:  leave autofill on, turn same Payee (?) off.
>
> As I mentioned before, these are really nits, it's simple to just plug
> in another Payee when entering multiple transactions.
>
> Good job KMyMoney team!
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, kap4lin <kap4lin@...> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
>>> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
>>> enter my transactions at the end of the day.
>> I think this is the setting:
>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>>
>>> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
>>> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
>>> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
>>> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
>>> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
>>> account before.
>>>
>>> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...
>> It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
>> one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
>> everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
>> saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> PK

It seems something has been changed recently.  My understanding is that,
originally, when entering a transaction for an existing payee, a list of
recent transactions would appear, from which one could select the
required category.  Then, I requested a change so that when entering a
second new transaction, that same payee would be preselected, to assist
when entering several transactions for the same payee, which I do a
couple of times each week.

Unfortunately, this had the side effect of not listing recent
transactions for the second transaction.  If a different payee was
selected for the second transaction, the list did appear.  Now, however,
no list seems to appear for any payee, irrespective of the default
category setting.

Given now the choice of staying as is, or reverting to the original
behaviour, I would prefer to revert.

Allan

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[Thomas Baumgart]

Hi,

on Saturday 14 November 2009 allan wrote:

> Footer wrote:
> >> I think this is the setting:
> >> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
> >
> > Well, yes, that is the setting.  But it still brings up the same
> > Payee, just prevents the previous transactions from coming up.  This
> > is NOT the behavior I would like to see.  I like the Autofill, I want
> > the previous transactions to come up, whether I've paid that Payee
> > from that account or not.  However, when I'm entering multiple
> > transactions, I don't necessarily want the SAME Payee to come up
> > again!  Does that makes sense?  That's the behavior I'd like to
> > control.  In a nutshell:  leave autofill on, turn same Payee (?) off.
> >
> > As I mentioned before, these are really nits, it's simple to just plug
> > in another Payee when entering multiple transactions.
> >
> > Good job KMyMoney team!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, kap4lin <kap4lin@...> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
> >>> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
> >>> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
> >>> enter my transactions at the end of the day.
> >>
> >> I think this is the setting:
> >> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
> >>
> >>> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
> >>> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
> >>> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
> >>> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
> >>> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
> >>> account before.
> >>>
> >>> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...
> >>
> >> It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
> >> one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
> >> everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
> >> saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> PK
>
> It seems something has been changed recently.  My understanding is that,
> originally, when entering a transaction for an existing payee, a list of
> recent transactions would appear, from which one could select the
> required category.  Then, I requested a change so that when entering a
> second new transaction, that same payee would be preselected, to assist
> when entering several transactions for the same payee, which I do a
> couple of times each week.
>
> Unfortunately, this had the side effect of not listing recent
> transactions for the second transaction.  If a different payee was
> selected for the second transaction, the list did appear.  Now, however,
> no list seems to appear for any payee, irrespective of the default
> category setting.
>
> Given now the choice of staying as is, or reverting to the original
> behaviour, I would prefer to revert.

To shed some light on this thing: the current (mis-) behavior was introduced
with the change that allows to enter multiple transactions for the same payee
with the payee being filled in already. I have already analyzed what causes
the problems, but I am currently not in a position to fix it. At first it's
not as easy as one might think and second I don't have the time right now.

Since turning off autofill all together is no option, I propose to add an
option that allows to turn off the presetting of the payee name. This option
will be hidden from the UI for now but could be turned on using your favorite
text editor in the kmymoney2rc file.

Would that be an option for all of you?
 
--


Regards

Thomas Baumgart

GPG-FP: E55E D592 F45F 116B 8429   4F99 9C59 DB40 B75D D3BA
-------------------------------------------------------------
"Hey! I could use Tex!" and I've only gotten to use it a little
so far but it's so far superiour to MS Words "be everywhere do
everything"-ness it's not even funny... (lordSauron)
-------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[allan anderson]

Thomas Baumgart wrote:

> Hi,
>
> on Saturday 14 November 2009 allan wrote:
>
>
>> Footer wrote:
>>>> I think this is the setting:
>>>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>>> Well, yes, that is the setting.  But it still brings up the same
>>> Payee, just prevents the previous transactions from coming up.  This
>>> is NOT the behavior I would like to see.  I like the Autofill, I want
>>> the previous transactions to come up, whether I've paid that Payee
>>> from that account or not.  However, when I'm entering multiple
>>> transactions, I don't necessarily want the SAME Payee to come up
>>> again!  Does that makes sense?  That's the behavior I'd like to
>>> control.  In a nutshell:  leave autofill on, turn same Payee (?) off.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned before, these are really nits, it's simple to just plug
>>> in another Payee when entering multiple transactions.
>>>
>>> Good job KMyMoney team!
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, kap4lin <kap4lin@...> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
>>>>> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
>>>>> enter my transactions at the end of the day.
>>>> I think this is the setting:
>>>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>>>>
>>>>> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
>>>>> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
>>>>> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
>>>>> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
>>>>> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
>>>>> account before.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...
>>>> It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
>>>> one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
>>>> everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
>>>> saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>> PK
>> It seems something has been changed recently.  My understanding is that,
>> originally, when entering a transaction for an existing payee, a list of
>> recent transactions would appear, from which one could select the
>> required category.  Then, I requested a change so that when entering a
>> second new transaction, that same payee would be preselected, to assist
>> when entering several transactions for the same payee, which I do a
>> couple of times each week.
>>
>> Unfortunately, this had the side effect of not listing recent
>> transactions for the second transaction.  If a different payee was
>> selected for the second transaction, the list did appear.  Now, however,
>> no list seems to appear for any payee, irrespective of the default
>> category setting.
>>
>> Given now the choice of staying as is, or reverting to the original
>> behaviour, I would prefer to revert.
>
> To shed some light on this thing: the current (mis-) behavior was introduced
> with the change that allows to enter multiple transactions for the same payee
> with the payee being filled in already. I have already analyzed what causes
> the problems, but I am currently not in a position to fix it. At first it's
> not as easy as one might think and second I don't have the time right now.
>
> Since turning off autofill all together is no option, I propose to add an
> option that allows to turn off the presetting of the payee name. This option
> will be hidden from the UI for now but could be turned on using your favorite
> text editor in the kmymoney2rc file.
>
> Would that be an option for all of you?
>  

A yes from me. Thanks.

Allan

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[footer1]

A yes from me as well Thomas.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, allan <aganderson@...> wrote:

> Thomas Baumgart wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> on Saturday 14 November 2009 allan wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Footer wrote:
>>>>> I think this is the setting:
>>>>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>>>> Well, yes, that is the setting.  But it still brings up the same
>>>> Payee, just prevents the previous transactions from coming up.  This
>>>> is NOT the behavior I would like to see.  I like the Autofill, I want
>>>> the previous transactions to come up, whether I've paid that Payee
>>>> from that account or not.  However, when I'm entering multiple
>>>> transactions, I don't necessarily want the SAME Payee to come up
>>>> again!  Does that makes sense?  That's the behavior I'd like to
>>>> control.  In a nutshell:  leave autofill on, turn same Payee (?) off.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned before, these are really nits, it's simple to just plug
>>>> in another Payee when entering multiple transactions.
>>>>
>>>> Good job KMyMoney team!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, kap4lin <kap4lin@...> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Footer <footer@...> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there a way to turn this 'feature' off?  It's rare that I buy
>>>>>> something twice at the same store on the same day.  :-)  I usually
>>>>>> enter my transactions at the end of the day.
>>>>> I think this is the setting:
>>>>> Settings > Register (on left panel) > Data Entry (tab) > No Autofill
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do like the fact that when you put in a Payee, it brings up previous
>>>>>> transactions to pick from.  And I know we've discussed how it would be
>>>>>> nice for this to work when using a different account for the same
>>>>>> Payee but you haven't paid from that account before.  Currently, it
>>>>>> only brings up previous transactions if they've been entered in the
>>>>>> account before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are really nits but since it's being discussed ...
>>>>> It is sometimes annoying, but it helps me a lot too: I eat lunch at
>>>>> one of the three or four places everyday. So, except the date,
>>>>> everything is repeated from the previous transaction from that place -
>>>>> saves me a little time (which I spent on other useless things)!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> PK
>>> It seems something has been changed recently.  My understanding is that,
>>> originally, when entering a transaction for an existing payee, a list of
>>> recent transactions would appear, from which one could select the
>>> required category.  Then, I requested a change so that when entering a
>>> second new transaction, that same payee would be preselected, to assist
>>> when entering several transactions for the same payee, which I do a
>>> couple of times each week.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, this had the side effect of not listing recent
>>> transactions for the second transaction.  If a different payee was
>>> selected for the second transaction, the list did appear.  Now, however,
>>> no list seems to appear for any payee, irrespective of the default
>>> category setting.
>>>
>>> Given now the choice of staying as is, or reverting to the original
>>> behaviour, I would prefer to revert.
>>
>> To shed some light on this thing: the current (mis-) behavior was introduced
>> with the change that allows to enter multiple transactions for the same payee
>> with the payee being filled in already. I have already analyzed what causes
>> the problems, but I am currently not in a position to fix it. At first it's
>> not as easy as one might think and second I don't have the time right now.
>>
>> Since turning off autofill all together is no option, I propose to add an
>> option that allows to turn off the presetting of the payee name. This option
>> will be hidden from the UI for now but could be turned on using your favorite
>> text editor in the kmymoney2rc file.
>>
>> Would that be an option for all of you?
>>
>
> A yes from me. Thanks.
>
> Allan
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
> Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
> _______________________________________________
> KMyMoney2-user mailing list
> KMyMoney2-user@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user

[blist-2]

On Saturday 14 November 2009, Thomas Baumgart wrote:
> |Since turning off autofill all together is no option, I propose to add an
> |option that allows to turn off the presetting of the payee name. This option
> |will be hidden from the UI for now but could be turned on using your favorite
> |text editor in the kmymoney2rc file.
> |
> |Would that be an option for all of you?

That would work for me also.  Thanks.

mikkl

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
_______________________________________________
KMyMoney2-user mailing list
KMyMoney2-user@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmymoney2-user