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by Kenneth Gonsalves-2 :: Rate this Message:

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hi,

I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in mapnik
or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from geofabrik, but
the changes are not showing there also. Is there some problem?
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Kenneth Gonsalves
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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Rahkonen Jukka :: Rate this Message:

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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon <at> au-kbc.org> writes:

>
> hi,
>
> I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in mapnik
> or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from geofabrik, but
> the changes are not showing there also. Is there some problem?

Please give some more details. Which area (permalink is fine) and which changed
features do not show on the map?


-Jukka Rahkonen-



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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Kenneth Gonsalves-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> > I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in
> > mapnik  or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from
> > geofabrik, but the changes are not showing there also. Is there some
> > problem?
>
> Please give some more details. Which area (permalink is fine) and which
>  changed features do not show on the map?

this area:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.945577&lon=80.138336&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF

I have added a lot of shops here in the past week. Both here and in the
sorrounding areas, and I can see them in josm.
>

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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Andrew Errington-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, November 12, 2009 16:35, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
<snip>
> I have added a lot of shops here in the past week. Both here and in the
> sorrounding areas, and I can see them in josm.

Can you see them if you switch on the data layer (on the OSM map)?

If you can, then the data is there (which it should be, because you can
see it in JOSM).  If so, it might be simply a misspelling of a tag, or
maybe you have chosen a tag that Mapnik doesn't yet (or won't) render.

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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Peter Körner-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Andrew Errington schrieb:

> On Thu, November 12, 2009 16:35, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> <snip>
>> I have added a lot of shops here in the past week. Both here and in the
>> sorrounding areas, and I can see them in josm.
>
> Can you see them if you switch on the data layer (on the OSM map)?
>
> If you can, then the data is there (which it should be, because you can
> see it in JOSM).  If so, it might be simply a misspelling of a tag, or
> maybe you have chosen a tag that Mapnik doesn't yet (or won't) render.

I found those nodes that are not rendered:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/560177558
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/560177564

They appear in my mapnik-db and so are contained in the transactional
diffs. They are just not rendered.

Peter

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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) :: Rate this Message:

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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

>Sent: 12 November 2009 7:35 AM
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>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm
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>On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>> > I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in
>> > mapnik  or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from
>> > geofabrik, but the changes are not showing there also. Is there some
>> > problem?
>>
>> Please give some more details. Which area (permalink is fine) and which
>>  changed features do not show on the map?
>
>this area:
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.945577&lon=80.138336&zoom=18&layers=B0
>00FTF
>
>I have added a lot of shops here in the past week. Both here and in the
>sorrounding areas, and I can see them in josm.
>>
>

I think this is a case of not everything getting rendered. Icons for only a
certain number of features are rendered and also conflict resolution may
stop some icons showing up if they are closely spaced. Higher zoom levels
are needed to show this level of detail in full, or you would need a
customised render.

Cheers

Andy


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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Peter Körner <osm-lists@...> wrote:
> I found those nodes that are not rendered:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/560177558
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/560177564
>
> They appear in my mapnik-db and so are contained in the transactional
> diffs. They are just not rendered.

This is because the main OSM mapnik style doesn't render shop=* at
all. See e.g. this bug:

    http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2210

So even though it's in our mapnik DB on cassini it doesn't show up
because there's nothing in the stylesheet that makes it render.

You could modify the stylesheet to include shop=*. JOSM has some icons
for these that might be usable for a mapnik rendering.

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Re: changes not appearing in osm

by Kenneth Gonsalves-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 5:22:14 pm Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> > They appear in my mapnik-db and so are contained in the transactional
> > diffs. They are just not rendered.
>
> This is because the main OSM mapnik style doesn't render shop=* at
> all. See e.g. this bug:
>
>     http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2210
>
> So even though it's in our mapnik DB on cassini it doesn't show up
> because there's nothing in the stylesheet that makes it render.
>
> You could modify the stylesheet to include shop=*. JOSM has some icons
> for these that might be usable for a mapnik rendering.
>

most of the changes now show - but it took nearly a week.
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Kenneth Gonsalves
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