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changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Vadim Pisarevsky
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Hello everybody,
SourceForge has been OpenCV home for several years, though we did not use it actively, just stored the code there. It has changed in the past 1.5 years, when we started using the site facilities, such as SVN & bug tracker,
more extensively and sometimes SF appears to be quite slow. For example, today I entered the tracker, closed some duplicates, tried to reply to some other others, and for each page refresh it took at least 0.5 minute, if not longer.
Similarly, yahoogroups was good, but now I find it slow, not very convenient to moderate and the spam filtering engine is very weak. So I'm looking for alternatives. Google Code (code.google.com) & Google Groups (groups.google.com) look very nice and are the current candidates:
* If the antispam engine is the same as in GMail, which is likely, then it's far better than on yahoogroups! * And it feels pretty fast too. * Functionality-wise, Google Code may be not as sophisticated as SF, but all the necessary features are there: SVN, Downloads, Bug tracker, Wiki (though, we will likely keep wiki at WG).
What do you think, is it worth doing? Also, if you know of some other possible alternatives (key requirements: free, fast(!), sufficient functionality for our needs), please, share it. Regards, Vadim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Jose Luis Blanco
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For my own projects I'm also considering moving from SF to
code.google.com... it's incomparably faster and the feeling is of a much clearer and more stable web. The SVN hosting there is good enough, just missing (AFAIK) automatic commit mails. So, in my opinion doing that move is a good idea. JL On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Vadim Pisarevsky <vadim.pisarevsky@...> wrote: > Hello everybody, > SourceForge has been OpenCV home for several years, > though we did not use it actively, just stored the code there. > It has changed in the past 1.5 years, when we started using the site > facilities, such as SVN & bug tracker, > more extensively and sometimes SF appears to be quite slow. For example, > today I entered the tracker, > closed some duplicates, tried to reply to some other others, and for each > page refresh it took at least 0.5 minute, if not longer. > Similarly, yahoogroups was good, but now I find it slow, not very convenient > to moderate and the spam filtering engine is very weak. > So I'm looking for alternatives. Google Code (code.google.com) & Google > Groups (groups.google.com) look very nice and are the current candidates: > * If the antispam engine is the same as in GMail, which is likely, then > it's far better than on yahoogroups! > * And it feels pretty fast too. > * Functionality-wise, Google Code may be not as sophisticated as SF, but > all the necessary features are there: SVN, Downloads, Bug tracker, Wiki > (though, we will likely keep wiki at WG). > What do you think, is it worth doing? > Also, if you know of some other possible alternatives (key requirements: > free, fast(!), sufficient functionality for our needs), please, share it. > Regards, > Vadim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list > Opencvlibrary-devel@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel > > -- ___________________________________________________________ Jose-Luis Blanco-Claraco Phone: +34 952 132848 Dpto. Ingenieria de Sistemas y Automatica E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion Fax: +34 952 133361 Universidad de Malaga Campus Universitario de Teatinos 29071 Malaga, Spain http://www.isa.uma.es/jlblanco ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by asm23
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Hello everybody,I personally prefer using a forum system which can give notify emails. Currently, the Yahoo groups can't do that, I suspect Google groups can't do that either. :-( , so, I suggest a PHPBB system, just like our Chinese OpenCV forums. :-) Another thought: Currently, the wiki in http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/ using a MoinMoin wiki system, But some pages which contain the Code samples shows really badly. for example: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/VideoSurveillance My suggestion is: why not choose the system used in en.wikipedia.org ?? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Mika Fischer
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Hi Vadim,
2009/11/9 Vadim Pisarevsky <vadim.pisarevsky@...>: > Groups (groups.google.com) look very nice and are the current candidates: > * If the antispam engine is the same as in GMail, which is likely, then > it's far better than on yahoogroups! > * And it feels pretty fast too. no complaints about Google Code, but for Google Groups you might want to have a look at this (very recent!) rant: http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/ Best, Mika ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by John Stowers-2
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Hi,
> So I'm looking for alternatives. Google Code (code.google.com) & Google > Groups (groups.google.com) look very nice and are the current candidates: Is anyone considering moving to git for the VCS? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Vadim Pisarevsky
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Hello,
I think, git is for larger-scale projects with a few dozens of active developers. Subversion is enough for our current needs. When we need more sophisticated VCS, we can migrate to it in a week.
Regards, Vadim
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John Stowers <john.stowers@...> wrote: Hi, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Guy K. Kloss-2
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:33:34 John Stowers wrote:
> Is anyone considering moving to git for the VCS? Don't take this as "tool trolling", as I don't know enough about git itself from personal experience. But for DVCS needs I usually use Bazaar, with the bzr-svn backend to help me for those purposes. bzr-svn works very well, and integrates very nicely/conveniently. A big advantage of the plugin architecture of Bazaar, whereas you take/use git as it is or you don't (but I may be wrong there). Guy -- Guy K. Kloss Institute of Information and Mathematical Sciences Te Kura Pūtaiao o Mōhiohio me Pāngarau Massey University, Albany (North Shore City, Auckland) 473 State Highway 17, Gate 1, Mailroom, Quad B Building voice: +64 9 414-0800 ext. 9585 fax: +64 9 441-8181 G.Kloss@... http://www.massey.ac.nz/~gkloss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Guy K. Kloss-2
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I've had very good experiences in hosting projects on Launchpad, too. Big
benefit is also that you can get a PPA to ease the distribution process for Debian/Ubuntu like systems as well, along with a bug tracking system that can also link to external links (including bug note relaying forward and backward), etc. I think they've got also automatic build farms, too. It only supports Bazaar as a VCS, but otherwise it is *very* good. Plus I belive bzr is a good VCS tool. Guy -- Guy K. Kloss Institute of Information and Mathematical Sciences Te Kura Pūtaiao o Mōhiohio me Pāngarau Massey University, Albany (North Shore City, Auckland) 473 State Highway 17, Gate 1, Mailroom, Quad B Building voice: +64 9 414-0800 ext. 9585 fax: +64 9 441-8181 G.Kloss@... http://www.massey.ac.nz/~gkloss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by neub
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Launchpad is a very good platform for development:
Pros: Bug tracking, blueprints (feature request), bazaar, debian ppa repositories. Cons: No forum (but maybe soon), no wiki, new VCS. And I also use googlecode for my own project: Pros: Simple to install, google account (easier when you already have gmail), wiki, googlegroups, fast to browse the source code. Cons: wiki is too simple, no mailing list. In conclusion i think I'm voting for launchpad because even if the change is more difficult, the features are better. googlecode only improve in faster connection and googlegroup so i don't know if the change worth the improvement. Regards, Benoit PS: Thanks Guy for warning me that i only replied to you ;) -- Benoit RAT www.neub.co.nr On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Guy K. Kloss <g.kloss@...> wrote: I've had very good experiences in hosting projects on Launchpad, too. Big ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Vadim Pisarevsky
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Hello everybody once again,
Thank you all very much for your comments and suggestions. For now we decided to take a conservative approach and stay with SVN as the most popular solution that suits us well so far.
Instead we just moved SVN repository and the tracker (in progress) to http://code.ros.org, which is much faster and claimed to be more stable.
The latest version can now be taken from http://code.ros.org/svn/opencv/trunk/opencv
The latest tested snapshot can be taken from http://code.ros.org/svn/opencv/tags/latest_tested_snapshot/opencv To renew your developer access to SVN, please: 1. register at code.ros.org (this is standard registration with e-mail verification), 2. go to https://code.ros.org/gf/project/opencv/ and click "Request to join the project" in the top-left corner right below the "Activity" chart.
The bug tracker is the process of migration; as soon as all the tickets will be moved to the new tracker, the old tracker will be closed. So, please, submit any new tickets to the new bug tracker at code.ros.org.
In the meantime, we may also migrate to the forums at code.ros.org and use their file release system, but for now we start with SVN and the bug tracker. Regards, Vadim On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Benoit <benpaka.spam@...> wrote: Launchpad is a very good platform for development: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Opencvlibrary-devel mailing list Opencvlibrary-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencvlibrary-devel |
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Re: changing the hosting for the project site and the forum: migrate to Google Code & Groups?
by Vadim Pisarevsky
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Hello Stefano,
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:38 PM, blue <bluefuture@...> wrote: Hello Vadim, I do not know the answer. OpenCV is now hosted at WG, uses their servers, and administrated by them; I have no particular knowledge of the engine they use, just have admin rights for the opencv project. I suspect, WG may use the commercial version of g-forge, so they will probably get all the updates and services expected from commercial customers.
Another thing do you know the status of this patch[4]? It was very old patch. Currently OpenCV supports both libdc1394 v.1 & v.2, it is chosen by CMake configuration script. The wrapper for libdc1394 v.2 has been implemented differently from the proposed patch, it is less functional for single-head cameras, but includes support for stereo-cameras.
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