debian-installer for GNU/kFreeBSD

[Aurelien Jarno]

Hi,

Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
debian-installer images are available here:

  http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/

Here are the SHA512 of the two images:

  754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
  c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso

Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
wiki [4].

Cheers,
Aurelien

[1] http://slackydeb.blogspot.com/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009
[3] http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/
[4] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/kFreeBSD

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[Bjørn Mork]

Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@...> writes:

> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> debian-installer images are available here:
>
>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>
> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>
>   754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>   c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>
> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> wiki [4].

I just tried the AMD64 flavour on a kvm virtual machine.  Most of the
issues I noticed seem to already be documented:
- installation report fails
- keyboard configuration missing

Apart from that, the only problem I had was enabling the serial console.
But that might be due to me not knowing FreeBSD too well.  The installer
worked nicely, except for the already documented missing features.


More details:

I installed using this command line:
 
 kvm -m 512 -usb -hda debian-kfreebsd.base.raw -net nic,vlan=0,macaddr=00:aa:00:ff:00:fb  -net vde,vlan=0,sock=/var/run/vde2/tap0.ctl -serial mon:stdio -monitor null -cdrom mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso -boot d

Original plan was to use serial console only, but this seems to be
unsupported (probably more of a generic d-i problem).  Also meant to use
an e1000 NIC but forgot to specify it.  That caused a minor problem when I
remembered it afterwords, as the primary NIC was renamed from re0 to em0.
But that is of course to be expected with FreeBSD and obviously an user
error anyway...

Serial console woes:

/etc/inittab had a couple of commented out lines as usual, so I just
uncommented the first in the belief that the device name was correct:

# Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
#
#T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L cuaa0 9600 vt100


But this ended up with

INIT: Id "T0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

So I looked around in /dev/ for other possibilities, and remembered that
JUNOS routers (which are the only FreeBSD machines I've ever used before
:-) use ttyd0.  And this seems to work fine:

T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyd0 9600 vt100

But that posed another minor problem: ttyd0 was not in /etc/securetty so
I couldn't log in as root on the console.  Easily fixed of course.  but
makes me wonder: Did I do something wrong, or are both /etc/inittab and
/etc/securetty really using the wrong serial console device names?

Then came the attempt to configure grub for serial console:  Getting
grub itself to use is of course the same as with Linux:

 GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=serial
 GRUB_TERMINAL=serial
 GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND="serial --unit=0 --speed=9600"

But how am I supposed to make the freebsd kernel use it?  Adding "-h" on
the kernel command line maybe?  But there does not seem to be any way to
do that using /etc/grub.d/10_freebsd.  Or am I missing the obvious?
Hmm, maybe the missing feature "support for boot options".  Right.

For now, I've just added a static copy of the automatic configuration
with the command line parameter, but this is of course not a good
solution.

BTW, while looking for docs, I noticed this weird path:

kvm-kfreebsd:~# dpkg -L kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64|grep home
/usr/share/doc/home
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian/kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64
/usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian/kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64/README.Debian

Guess that's not supposed to happen :-)





Bjørn


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[Tim Tebbit]

Aurelien Jarno wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> debian-installer images are available here:
>
>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>
> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>
>   754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>   c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>
> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> wiki [4].
>
> Cheers,
> Aurelien
>
> [1] http://slackydeb.blogspot.com/
> [2] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009
> [3] http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/
> [4] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/kFreeBSD
>

I tried the i386.  Bailed on attempting to work out grub-pc which I
already have grub installed from sid.  I then tried to exit the install
and add an entry to menu.list by hand which also failed.  I forget the
number (26 comes to mind) and I'd need to reboot to reproduce it at the
moment.  Perhaps I'm lacking something?  I removed a partition Lenovo
thinks I need to use XP, which was /dev/sda2 @5GG so I've added...

title Debian/GNU kFreeBSD
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/loader

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1        3040    24418768+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2   *       29683       30401     5775367+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3            3041        3083      345397+  83  Linux
/dev/sda4            3084       29682   213656467+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5            3084        3691     4883728+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6            3692        4056     2931831   83  Linux
/dev/sda7            4057        4386     2650693+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda8            4387        4435      393561   83  Linux
/dev/sda9            4436       29643   202483228+  83  Linux
/dev/sda10          29644       29682      313236   82  Linux swap / Solaris

As per the wiki.  Suggestions?



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[Aurelien Jarno]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:11:49PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> I just tried the AMD64 flavour on a kvm virtual machine.  Most of the
> issues I noticed seem to already be documented:
> - installation report fails

This is on the TODO list of things to do.

> - keyboard configuration missing

That too, but that's not something that will happen soon, as a lot of
work is needed.

In the meanwhile you can run 'dpkg-reconfigure kbdcontrol' after
rebooting on the installed system.

> Apart from that, the only problem I had was enabling the serial console.
> But that might be due to me not knowing FreeBSD too well.  The installer
> worked nicely, except for the already documented missing features.

All the other issue are not directly related to debian-installer, but
rather to GNU/kFreeBSD in general.

>
> More details:
>
> I installed using this command line:
>  
>  kvm -m 512 -usb -hda debian-kfreebsd.base.raw -net nic,vlan=0,macaddr=00:aa:00:ff:00:fb  -net vde,vlan=0,sock=/var/run/vde2/tap0.ctl -serial mon:stdio -monitor null -cdrom mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso -boot d
>
> Original plan was to use serial console only, but this seems to be
> unsupported (probably more of a generic d-i problem).  Also meant to use

This should be supported, but currently it requires editing the boot
command line of grub and that is not possible through the serial line...

We have to find a solution.

> an e1000 NIC but forgot to specify it.  That caused a minor problem when I
> remembered it afterwords, as the primary NIC was renamed from re0 to em0.
> But that is of course to be expected with FreeBSD and obviously an user
> error anyway...
>
> Serial console woes:
>
> /etc/inittab had a couple of commented out lines as usual, so I just
> uncommented the first in the belief that the device name was correct:
>
> # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
> #
> #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L cuaa0 9600 vt100
>
>
> But this ended up with
>
> INIT: Id "T0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>
> So I looked around in /dev/ for other possibilities, and remembered that
> JUNOS routers (which are the only FreeBSD machines I've ever used before
> :-) use ttyd0.  And this seems to work fine:
>
> T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyd0 9600 vt100
>
> But that posed another minor problem: ttyd0 was not in /etc/securetty so
> I couldn't log in as root on the console.  Easily fixed of course.  but
> makes me wonder: Did I do something wrong, or are both /etc/inittab and
> /etc/securetty really using the wrong serial console device names?

The problem is that those files are currently plenty of linuxisms. They
need to be change, but that involves other packages so it will probably
takes a lot of time until this is added. I'll fill the bugs for that
later today.

> Then came the attempt to configure grub for serial console:  Getting
> grub itself to use is of course the same as with Linux:
>
>  GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=serial
>  GRUB_TERMINAL=serial
>  GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND="serial --unit=0 --speed=9600"
>
> But how am I supposed to make the freebsd kernel use it?  Adding "-h" on
> the kernel command line maybe?  But there does not seem to be any way to
> do that using /etc/grub.d/10_freebsd.  Or am I missing the obvious?
> Hmm, maybe the missing feature "support for boot options".  Right.

That should be:
        set FreeBSD.console=comconsole

but I haven't tested it.

> For now, I've just added a static copy of the automatic configuration
> with the command line parameter, but this is of course not a good
> solution.
>
> BTW, while looking for docs, I noticed this weird path:
>
> kvm-kfreebsd:~# dpkg -L kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64|grep home
> /usr/share/doc/home
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian/kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64
> /usr/share/doc/home/aurel32/tmp/kernel/kfreebsd-7-7.2/debian/kfreebsd-image-7.2-1-amd64/README.Debian
>
> Guess that's not supposed to happen :-)
>

Ouch, I'll fix that asap.

Thanks for your tests,
Aurelien

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[Aurelien Jarno]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:37:37PM -0400, Tim Tebbit wrote:

> Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> > Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> > debian-installer images are available here:
> >
> >   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
> >
> > Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
> >
> >   754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
> >   c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
> >
> > Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> > issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> > standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> > from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
> > details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> > wiki [4].
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Aurelien
> >
> > [1] http://slackydeb.blogspot.com/
> > [2] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009
> > [3] http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/
> > [4] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/kFreeBSD
> >
>
> I tried the i386.  Bailed on attempting to work out grub-pc which I
> already have grub installed from sid.  I then tried to exit the install
> and add an entry to menu.list by hand which also failed.  I forget the
> number (26 comes to mind) and I'd need to reboot to reproduce it at the
> moment.  Perhaps I'm lacking something?  I removed a partition Lenovo
> thinks I need to use XP, which was /dev/sda2 @5GG so I've added...
>

You mean have tried to skip the installation of grub-pc and it has
failed?

Note that FreeBSD need grub2, so adding the entry manually will only
work if you are using this version.

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[Tim Tebbit]

Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>
>
> You mean have tried to skip the installation of grub-pc and it has
> failed?
>
> Note that FreeBSD need grub2, so adding the entry manually will only
> work if you are using this version.
>

Ahhh... I did not see that requirement in the install notes.. I'll get
grub2 and give it another go.  Thanks for the tip.

Yes, I tried to skip the installation of grub-pc thinking currently
installed grub could handle it fine.




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[Tim Tebbit]

Tim Tebbit wrote:

> Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>>
>> You mean have tried to skip the installation of grub-pc and it has
>> failed?
>>
>> Note that FreeBSD need grub2, so adding the entry manually will only
>> work if you are using this version.
>>
>
> Ahhh... I did not see that requirement in the install notes.. I'll get
> grub2 and give it another go.  Thanks for the tip.
>
> Yes, I tried to skip the installation of grub-pc thinking currently
> installed grub could handle it fine.

Okay, with grub2... still error..

root (hd0,1)
filesystem type unknown partition type 0x83
Kernel /boot/loader

Forgive my ignorance but '/boot/loader' should be replaced with a kernel
 shouldn't it?  I have no idea what that might be. I couldn't find that
documented anywhere.

What am I doing wrong here?  I am certain I chose /dev/sda2 which should
be hd0,1 correct?  I used the installers automatic option on the 5GB
partition.


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[Aurelien Jarno]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:38:10PM -0400, Tim Tebbit wrote:

> Tim Tebbit wrote:
> > Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> >>
> >> You mean have tried to skip the installation of grub-pc and it has
> >> failed?
> >>
> >> Note that FreeBSD need grub2, so adding the entry manually will only
> >> work if you are using this version.
> >>
> >
> > Ahhh... I did not see that requirement in the install notes.. I'll get
> > grub2 and give it another go.  Thanks for the tip.
> >
> > Yes, I tried to skip the installation of grub-pc thinking currently
> > installed grub could handle it fine.
>
>
> Okay, with grub2... still error..
>
> root (hd0,1)
> filesystem type unknown partition type 0x83
> Kernel /boot/loader
>
> Forgive my ignorance but '/boot/loader' should be replaced with a kernel
>  shouldn't it?  I have no idea what that might be. I couldn't find that
> documented anywhere.

Yes, this is what you should have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (to be adapted):

        insmod ufs2
        set root=(hd0,1)
        freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-amd64.gz
        set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
        set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw

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[Tim Tebbit]

Aurelien Jarno wrote:

>
>
> Yes, this is what you should have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (to be adapted):
>
>         insmod ufs2
>         set root=(hd0,1)
>         freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-amd64.gz
>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
>

Still no luck.  Although this time the error was simply no such file,
which leads me to believe I have the file name of the kernel wrong.

I no have included in /boot/grub/grub.cfg

---8<---

}
menuentry "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 7.2-1-i386" {
        insmod ufs2
        set root=(hd0,1)
        freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-i368.gz
        set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
        set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
}


I thought this whole process would be pretty quick and simple.  I'll get
it eventually I suppose.

Where am I going wrong?  I've searched around a bit, but because the
project is rather new, I'm not finding anything useful.


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[Aurelien Jarno]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:29:16PM -0400, Tim Tebbit wrote:

> Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes, this is what you should have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (to be adapted):
> >
> >         insmod ufs2
> >         set root=(hd0,1)
> >         freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-amd64.gz
> >         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
> >         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
> >
>
> Still no luck.  Although this time the error was simply no such file,
> which leads me to believe I have the file name of the kernel wrong.
>
> I no have included in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>
> ---8<---
>
> }
> menuentry "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 7.2-1-i386" {
> insmod ufs2
>         set root=(hd0,1)
>         freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-i368.gz
>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
> }

It should be i686 (or i486 on a pre pentium-computer) instead of i368 or
i386. Also if I understand correctly, your system is installed on sda2,
so, in that case it should probably be (hd0,2) and /dev/ad0s2.

 

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[Tim Tebbit]

Aurelien Jarno wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:29:16PM -0400, Tim Tebbit wrote:
>> Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, this is what you should have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (to be adapted):
>>>
>>>         insmod ufs2
>>>         set root=(hd0,1)
>>>         freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-amd64.gz
>>>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
>>>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
>>>
>> Still no luck.  Although this time the error was simply no such file,
>> which leads me to believe I have the file name of the kernel wrong.
>>
>> I no have included in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>>
>> ---8<---
>>
>> }
>> menuentry "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 7.2-1-i386" {
>> insmod ufs2
>>         set root=(hd0,1)
>>         freebsd /boot/kfreebsd-7.2-1-i368.gz
>>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/ad0s1
>>         set FreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw
>> }
>
> It should be i686 (or i486 on a pre pentium-computer) instead of i368 or
> i386. Also if I understand correctly, your system is installed on sda2,
> so, in that case it should probably be (hd0,2) and /dev/ad0s2.
>
>  
>

Thanks I'll give that a go.  I am determined!  I did just notice the
i368 typo..


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[Thorsten Glaser-3]

Tim Tebbit dixit:

>filesystem type unknown partition type 0x83

0x83 is GNU/Linux (originally ext[234]fs, but, contrary to the
specification, also used by e.g. ReiserFS).

You want 0xA5 which is FreeBSD disklabel (bsdlabel), allowed
to contain ufs.

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[Felix Zielcke-3]

Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:

> Hi,
>
> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> debian-installer images are available here:
>
>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>
> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>
>
> 754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>
> c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>
> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find
> more
> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> wiki [4].

The amd64 one worked fine in VMware, except for the documented issues.
Now it even sets the networking of the installed system right, so that
DHCP works out of the box.

Would be nice though if you could rebuild the images with GRUB
1.97~beta1 just for the version number :) (there are actually no
important changes)

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[Aurelien Jarno]

Felix Zielcke a écrit :

> Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
>> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
>> debian-installer images are available here:
>>
>>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>>
>> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>>
>>
>> 754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>>
>> c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>>
>> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
>> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
>> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
>> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find
>> more
>> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
>> wiki [4].
>
> The amd64 one worked fine in VMware, except for the documented issues.
> Now it even sets the networking of the installed system right, so that
> DHCP works out of the box.
>
> Would be nice though if you could rebuild the images with GRUB
> 1.97~beta1 just for the version number :) (there are actually no
> important changes)
>

GRUB is not on the image, it is fetched through the network, so it will
be done automatically depending on how uptodate is your mirror.

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[Felix Zielcke-3]

Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 11:58 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:

> Felix Zielcke a écrit :
> > Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> >> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> >> debian-installer images are available here:
> >>
> >>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
> >>
> >> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
> >>
> >>
> >> 754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
> >>
> >> c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
> >>
> >> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> >> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> >> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> >> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find
> >> more
> >> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> >> wiki [4].
> >
> > The amd64 one worked fine in VMware, except for the documented issues.
> > Now it even sets the networking of the installed system right, so that
> > DHCP works out of the box.
> >
> > Would be nice though if you could rebuild the images with GRUB
> > 1.97~beta1 just for the version number :) (there are actually no
> > important changes)
> >
> GRUB is not on the image, it is fetched through the network, so it will
> be done automatically depending on how uptodate is your mirror.
>

I know but I meant for booting the cd. There's GRUB also used and it
still says 1.96 :)

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[Aurelien Jarno]

Felix Zielcke a écrit :

> Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 11:58 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
>> Felix Zielcke a écrit :
>>> Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
>>>> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
>>>> debian-installer images are available here:
>>>>
>>>>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>>>>
>>>> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>>>>
>>>> c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>>>>
>>>> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
>>>> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
>>>> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
>>>> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find
>>>> more
>>>> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
>>>> wiki [4].
>>> The amd64 one worked fine in VMware, except for the documented issues.
>>> Now it even sets the networking of the installed system right, so that
>>> DHCP works out of the box.
>>>
>>> Would be nice though if you could rebuild the images with GRUB
>>> 1.97~beta1 just for the version number :) (there are actually no
>>> important changes)
>>>
>> GRUB is not on the image, it is fetched through the network, so it will
>> be done automatically depending on how uptodate is your mirror.
>>
>
> I know but I meant for booting the cd. There's GRUB also used and it
> still says 1.96 :)
>

Ah ok. Then it will be done when I create the new images (I guess there
will be small changes to do anyway).

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[Robert Millan]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 02:42:53PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
> debian-installer images are available here:
>
>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>
> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>
>   754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>   c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>
> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
> wiki [4].

Hi,

Very nice!

If you plan on making this the official installer, I would strongly
advice against replacing the old installer completely untill "netinst"
images are provided.  With "netboot" or "bussinesscard" builds, install
process can break due to external changes in the archive, which seems
highly undesireable.

OTOH netinst is self-contained, and can even install without a network
connection.

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[Aurelien Jarno]

Robert Millan a écrit :

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 02:42:53PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the work of Luca Favetella [1] during the Google Summer of
>> Code [2], I am happy to announce that a first version of the
>> debian-installer images are available here:
>>
>>   http://temp.aurel32.net/d-i-kfreebsd/
>>
>> Here are the SHA512 of the two images:
>>
>>   754ab22022868a441e76c71d5a5c32b1bb0d5cb46ad7d8ca8da8b01bb5796d246bac34ad101d4f5c2e14798d526bbe93066207e1467efdbde59ccd72254129ce mini-kfreebsd-amd64-20090831.iso
>>   c1bfa136ce6caabf39dba989fde08b3388d92754fdd14c71079a3fa5f5ba2938a6f82df899e6c34ae1ef2646e15e4046683ee76544875c670296f0fa0f3b3045 mini-kfreebsd-i386-20090831.iso
>>
>> Please test them and report problems here. If there are not too many
>> issues, we will make an official release, put the images on the
>> standard location [3] and make a wider announce (probably with "Bits
>> from GNU/kFreeBSD porters" on debian-devel-announce). You can find more
>> details about those images, including bugs or missing features, on the
>> wiki [4].
>
> Hi,
>
> Very nice!
>
> If you plan on making this the official installer, I would strongly
> advice against replacing the old installer completely untill "netinst"
> images are provided.  With "netboot" or "bussinesscard" builds, install
> process can break due to external changes in the archive, which seems
> highly undesireable.
>
> OTOH netinst is self-contained, and can even install without a network
> connection.
>

That's indeed something wanted, but I don't know how to produce such
images which already include a set of packages. If someone can help on
that, that would be appreciated.

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[Robert Millan]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:00:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:

> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Very nice!
> >
> > If you plan on making this the official installer, I would strongly
> > advice against replacing the old installer completely untill "netinst"
> > images are provided.  With "netboot" or "bussinesscard" builds, install
> > process can break due to external changes in the archive, which seems
> > highly undesireable.
> >
> > OTOH netinst is self-contained, and can even install without a network
> > connection.
> >
>
> That's indeed something wanted, but I don't know how to produce such
> images which already include a set of packages. If someone can help on
> that, that would be appreciated.

I'm afraid I don't have the time, but in case someone's interested, the
debian-cd package/repository is the place to look.

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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:00:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:

> Robert Millan a écrit :
> >
> > If you plan on making this the official installer, I would strongly
> > advice against replacing the old installer completely untill "netinst"
> > images are provided.  With "netboot" or "bussinesscard" builds, install
> > process can break due to external changes in the archive, which seems
> > highly undesireable.
> >
> > OTOH netinst is self-contained, and can even install without a network
> > connection.
>
> That's indeed something wanted, but I don't know how to produce such
> images which already include a set of packages. If someone can help on
> that, that would be appreciated.

Btw, now that it is possible to install from testing/squeeze, and the
likelyhood that this install path breaks is small, perhaps this is less
of an issue.

May I suggest making testing/squeeze installs the default, so that the old
builds can finally be deprecated?

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