dicomscope ready for upload

[malat]

Hi there,

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
<mathieu.malaterre@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Tille<andreas@...> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:42:46PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>>>   I am continuing the cleanup of dicomscope, but I am getting some
>>> lintian error on doc-base:
>>>
>>> $ lintian /home/mathieu/debian/debian-med/trunk/packages/dicomscope/build-area/dicomscope_3.6.0_amd64.deb
>>> E: dicomscope: doc-base-file-unknown-field dicomscope:19 format
>>> ...
>>> E: dicomscope: doc-base-file-duplicated-format dicomscope:41 pdf
>>> N: 2 tags overridden (2 warnings)
>>>
>>>   Is this an issue with my lintian version ? Because the section
>>> fields looks ok AFAIK, ref:
>>> http://dirac.uos.ac.kr/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/doc-base/doc-base.html/ch-interface.html#s2.5.3
>>
>> If I'm not totally missleaded you need one doc-base file per *document*.
>> At least I think this was my motivation when I packaged fastdnaml (see
>> in SVN as a working example).  Lintian is probably right in throwing
>> errors but the messages itself are missleading.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>
> Indeed :)
>
> The package is now lintian clean :) Please consider for upload.

I believe dicomscope is ready for upload.

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[Andreas Tille-5]

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:51:20PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> > The package is now lintian clean :) Please consider for upload.
>
> I believe dicomscope is ready for upload.

Because Charles pointed out having a stronger look at debian/copyright:
I do not understand the references to "DCMTK software", "portions of the
DCMTK software package", "parts of this software within the dcmtk/dcmnet
sub-package", "dcmjpeg sub-package" ...  I do not have the slightest
idea to which part of the upstream tarball you are refering to.

Kind regards

         Andreas.

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[malat]

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Andreas Tille <andreas@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:51:20PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> > The package is now lintian clean :) Please consider for upload.
>>
>> I believe dicomscope is ready for upload.
>
> Because Charles pointed out having a stronger look at debian/copyright:
> I do not understand the references to "DCMTK software", "portions of the
> DCMTK software package", "parts of this software within the dcmtk/dcmnet
> sub-package", "dcmjpeg sub-package" ...  I do not have the slightest
> idea to which part of the upstream tarball you are refering to.

Sorry about that I must have used the copyright from dcmtk as
template, and completely forgot about updating it.

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[Charles Plessy-12]

Le Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 04:05:35PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre a écrit :

> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Andreas Tille <andreas@...> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:51:20PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> > The package is now lintian clean :) Please consider for upload.
> >>
> >> I believe dicomscope is ready for upload.
> >
> > Because Charles pointed out having a stronger look at debian/copyright:
> > I do not understand the references to "DCMTK software", "portions of the
> > DCMTK software package", "parts of this software within the dcmtk/dcmnet
> > sub-package", "dcmjpeg sub-package" ...  I do not have the slightest
> > idea to which part of the upstream tarball you are refering to.
>
> Sorry about that I must have used the copyright from dcmtk as
> template, and completely forgot about updating it.

Hi Mathieu,

I had a look at the sources of DICOMscope and its homepage, and did not find
any mention of its redistribution rights. Since this is in sharp contrast with
DCMTK, and since there is a big disclaimer on the homepage warning that
DICOMscope is a proof of principle not meant for clinical use, I think that we
can not assume that it is redistributable. We need Upstream to properly give a
license to it if we want to distribute it in Debian.

Not directly related, but although we have no parser yet, I added a
debian/upstream-metadata.yaml file to indicate Upstream's donation URL.

Have a nice day,

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Debian Med packaging team,
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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[Andreas Tille-5]

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 01:23:47PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Not directly related, but although we have no parser yet, I added a
> debian/upstream-metadata.yaml file to indicate Upstream's donation URL.

That's interesting.  I wonder whether we should find a more general wording
of the current

   Please register by following this link if you are using <package>.  

Finally we want to *attract* users of a package to visit a page provided
by upstream.  IMHO we could use this entry not only for registration but
also for donation requests.  Or do you think we might use different
entries / wording.

Kind regards

     Andreas.

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[malat]

Hi Jörg/Marco,

  We are having some issue on the packaging of DICOMScope. I thought I
could redistribute it under the following license:

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-med/trunk/packages/dicomscope/trunk/debian/copyright

  But upon inspection, Charles discover this is not as clear as it
seems to me(*). Would you mind clearing that for us ?

Thank you very much.
-Mathieu

(*)
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Charles Plessy <plessy@...> wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> I had a look at the sources of DICOMscope and its homepage, and did not find
> any mention of its redistribution rights. Since this is in sharp contrast with
> DCMTK, and since there is a big disclaimer on the homepage warning that
> DICOMscope is a proof of principle not meant for clinical use, I think that we
> can not assume that it is redistributable. We need Upstream to properly give a
> license to it if we want to distribute it in Debian.
>
> Not directly related, but although we have no parser yet, I added a
> debian/upstream-metadata.yaml file to indicate Upstream's donation URL.

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[malat]

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: OFFIS DICOM Team <>
Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: dicomscope ready for upload
To: Mathieu Malaterre <>
Cc: Charles Plessy <>, Klaus Kleber <>


Hi Mathieu,

sorry for the late reply ...

> We are having some issue on the packaging of DICOMScope. I thought I could redistribute it under the following license: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-med/trunk/packages/dicomscope/trunk/debian/copyright

Unfortunately, it's not that easy and we are aware of the fact that the
license/copyright of DICOMscope is a kind of gray area.

For the C/C++ part of DICOMscope which is identical to certain modules of
the DCMTK, it's pretty easy because the license/copyright is well-documented
in the COPYRIGHT file.

For the Java part of DICOMscope, the license/copyright is the one
you've cited (although the copyright date should be something like
"1999-2003"). Maybe, Klaus (see CC) can further comment on that
because he was one of the main developers of the Java part.

> But upon inspection, Charles discover this is not as clear as it seems to
> me(*). Would you mind clearing that for us ?

>> I had a look at the sources of DICOMscope and its homepage, and did not
>> find any mention of its redistribution rights. Since this is in sharp
>> contrast with DCMTK, and since there is a big disclaimer on the
>> homepage warning that DICOMscope is a proof of principle not meant for
>> clinical use, I think that we can not assume that it is
>> redistributable. We need Upstream to properly give a license to it if
>> we want to distribute it in Debian.

The disclaimer on the website, in the about box and the user manual of
DICOMscope does not mean that the software should not be
redistributed. It's just a warning to the user in order to make clear
what the purpose (intended use) of this software is (and what it is
not). So, maybe you should add this disclaimer somewhere to the Debian
package documentation.

Does this help?

Regards,
Jörg Riesmeier
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OFFIS DICOM Team, Escherweg 2, 26121 Oldenburg, Germany
E-Mail: dicom@..., URL: http://dicom.offis.de




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