do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

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do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by Gregg Dinse :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I recently got a new MacBookPro.  In the system profiler, under Memory  
Slots (in the lower panel), it says

ECC: disabled

Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I need  
to throw to enable it?  If so, does anyone know how to enable it  
(assuming there is no downside to this)?  Or is this just an obscure  
way of saying that I have non-ECC memory?

Gregg

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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by steve harley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-11-04 12:24 , Gregg Dinse wrote:
> I recently got a new MacBookPro. In the system profiler, under Memory
> Slots (in the lower panel), it says
>
> ECC: disabled
>
> Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I need to
> throw to enable it?

no, and i was easily able to confirm this via a couple of sources with
Google

i suspect the entry in System Profiler is there simply because the OS
can support ECC on XServe and Mac Pro


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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by Macs R We :: Rate this Message:

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On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gregg Dinse wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently got a new MacBookPro.  In the system profiler, under  
> Memory Slots (in the lower panel), it says
>
> ECC: disabled
>
> Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I  
> need to throw to enable it?  If so, does anyone know how to enable  
> it (assuming there is no downside to this)?  Or is this just an  
> obscure way of saying that I have non-ECC memory?

Guaranteed there is no switch, HW or SW.  Macs have never used or  
needed ECC memory.  Used to be they wouldn't even run with it; I  
suppose it's possible current models will run with it but still not  
use the feature.

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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by steve harley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-11-04 12:42 , Macs R We wrote:
> Macs have never used or needed
> ECC memory.

<http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/processor.html>

3rd paragraph

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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by Gregg Dinse :: Rate this Message:

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On 4 Nov 2009, at 2:41 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2009-11-04 12:24 , Gregg Dinse wrote:
>> I recently got a new MacBookPro. In the system profiler, under Memory
>> Slots (in the lower panel), it says
>>
>> ECC: disabled
>>
>> Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I  
>> need to
>> throw to enable it?
>
> no, and i was easily able to confirm this via a couple of sources with
> Google
>
> i suspect the entry in System Profiler is there simply because the OS
> can support ECC on XServe and Mac Pro

Hi Steve,

I figured this was just a way of saying that I did not have ECC  
memory, but I was curious, since I also thought that they might not  
even mention ECC if it were not an option.  Thanks for confirming.

By the way, on my MacPro, this same field says ECC: enabled, so as you  
say, it is supported by some Apple hardware.

Gregg

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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by Gregg Dinse :: Rate this Message:

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On 4 Nov 2009, at 2:42 PM, Macs R We wrote:

> On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gregg Dinse wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got a new MacBookPro.  In the system profiler, under
>> Memory Slots (in the lower panel), it says
>>
>> ECC: disabled
>>
>> Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I
>> need to throw to enable it?  If so, does anyone know how to enable
>> it (assuming there is no downside to this)?  Or is this just an
>> obscure way of saying that I have non-ECC memory?
>
> Guaranteed there is no switch, HW or SW.  Macs have never used or
> needed ECC memory.  Used to be they wouldn't even run with it; I
> suppose it's possible current models will run with it but still not
> use the feature.

I also thought that apple hardware did not support ECC memory, but  
apparently it does now, since that same field on my MacPro says ECC:  
enabled.

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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

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On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Macs R We wrote:

>
> On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gregg Dinse wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got a new MacBookPro.  In the system profiler, under  
>> Memory Slots (in the lower panel), it says
>>
>> ECC: disabled
>>
>> Does this mean that I have ECC memory and there is some switch I  
>> need to throw to enable it?  If so, does anyone know how to enable  
>> it (assuming there is no downside to this)?  Or is this just an  
>> obscure way of saying that I have non-ECC memory?
>
> Guaranteed there is no switch, HW or SW.  Macs have never used or  
> needed ECC memory.

While most Macs in the past never used ECC memory, it is patently  
false to say they never needed ECC memory. ECC memory is ALWAYS a good  
idea.  Being a Mac does make it immune from the laws of physics. Macs  
are great but not that great.

>  Used to be they wouldn't even run with it; I suppose it's possible  
> current models will run with it but still not use the feature.


MacPros at least will use it and have for some time.  Saved my bacon  
too.  I had a problem with a memory riser card in my MacPro which was  
causing bit errors but the ECC facility meant I got a warning instead  
of a crash.
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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

by Larry Gusaas-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009/11/04 1:42 PM  Macs R We wrote:
> Guaranteed there is no switch, HW or SW.  Macs have never used or
> needed ECC memory.  Used to be they wouldn't even run with it; I
> suppose it's possible current models will run with it but still not
> use the feature.

All Mac Pros require EEC memory. The last, late 2005, Power Mac G5 also
uses ECC memory.


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Re: do latest MacBookPros support ECC memory?

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On 4-Nov-2009, at 12:42, Macs R We wrote:
> Macs have never used or needed ECC memory.


Flat-out wrong. My Mac Pro most certainly uses ECC memory, and my  
System Profiler says ECC: Enabled.

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> From: steve harley <steve@...>

> On 2009-11-04 12:42 , Macs R We wrote:
>> Macs have never used or needed
>> ECC memory.
>
> <http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/processor.html>
>
> 3rd paragraph

I stand corrected.  I don't have any clients with Mac Pros (they are  
unsurprisingly unpopular with the general public) and this info isn't  
on any of the certification tests.  It marks a change from the  
historic Mac memory rules prior to (I guess) the G5 tower, whereas  
most PCs have used ECC memory from pre-Windows days.

> From: objectwerks inc <chad@...>

> While most Macs in the past never used ECC memory, it is patently  
> false to say they never needed ECC memory. ECC memory is ALWAYS a  
> good idea.  Being a Mac does make it immune from the laws of  
> physics. Macs are great but not that great.

By "needing" I meant that you were never required to buy ECC memory  
for a Mac, and by "using" I meant that if you did anyway, your Mac  
wouldn't accept it.  I was still wrong as of the G5 tower, of course,  
but I wasn't expressing an opinion against the advisability of ECC as  
an abstract feature of memory.

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