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Re: eGroupWare usability team installation prepared

2008-07-10T14:56:54Z

Hello Lars i am new on forum but i am working with egroupware from 5 years or more
I am owner of Easy Access Technology from Poland we are at the list of users EGW on egroupare.org from a long time.

I was not active in comunity becouse off bussines and becouse we was solve problems with egw with ours developers.

Now i thing is time to give something to comunity back

i am ready to work a bit in usability cases with you and thing serious about give to project some solutions wchich we made and integrate with egw

now we working on inegration fusioncharts for raporting and candy eye data view soo.

Let me in to usability team maybe i can help with mine experience.

i thing we imlement egw in poland for few thousand ppl in diferentiall companies to work.

Bad thing that usually we used our own modules for organize ppl work - now we thing about scale up egroupware and start organize information workflow in companies based on egw infolog.

Soo we got here big experience wchich we get from simple office workers and i thing i can use it to make egw better and give information to developers what working in egw ppl thing about their work.

I am proud that i was decided chose egw project ass main tool for mine bussines and ass core platform for develop some new functions. (for example raport dashboard for manage work in infolog in whole company)

Radek Konarski (CEO of Easy Access Technology sp z o.o.)
sincerelly

Lars Kneschke-2 wrote:

Hello!

I just prepared the eGW installation where we can work together.

Please send me a email containing your realname and you prefered login
name. Then will i setup a personal account for you.

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Re: Calendar Entries Need Reschedule Check box

2008-01-17T01:10:02Z

hi,

sounds quite nice. As not every user, who is using calendar, is using infolog, the infolog-creation figure should be optional (configuration).
A way to handle it at the moment, would be to change the title- "to be recheduled: old title" and to set the event as non blocking.

Frank

David C. Rankin wrote:

Guys,

A great addition to calendar would be a small checkbox on each calendar
entry that would allow an existing calendar entry to be marked as
rescheduled without ever having to open the calendar event in the
editor. The event would remain on the calendar display but would be
removed from the free/busy system and an infolog todo to "Reschedule
<calendar event name> would be generated.

This would handle the problem that arises when an event is rescheduled
but you do not yet know when it will be rescheduled. That way all of the
calendar entry data isn't lost by delete and can be simply moved once
the reschedule date and time is known.

My first thought was a simple [R] icon on the top right of each
calendar entry next to the people icon would do.

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Calendar Entries Need Reschedule Check box

2008-01-16T17:29:44Z

Guys,

A great addition to calendar would be a small checkbox on each calendar
entry that would allow an existing calendar entry to be marked as
rescheduled without ever having to open the calendar event in the
editor. The event would remain on the calendar display but would be
removed from the free/busy system and an infolog todo to "Reschedule
<calendar event name> would be generated.

This would handle the problem that arises when an event is rescheduled
but you do not yet know when it will be rescheduled. That way all of the
calendar entry data isn't lost by delete and can be simply moved once
the reschedule date and time is known.

My first thought was a simple [R] icon on the top right of each
calendar entry next to the people icon would do.

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Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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Apply General Pricelist to Each Project with 1-click and "billable" default

2007-12-06T07:54:13Z

(also filed as a feature request)

Ralf, all,

Two issues:

(1) Timesheet needs to be improved to allow the general pricelist
to be applied to any or all projects with a single click.

The present process of associating a pricelist with a project is far
too cumbersome to be usable. This is especially true when you have 50
plus projects underway. Currently, to fully use the pricelist feature
you must create a pricelist using the general "project manager"
"pricelist" menu. Then you must edit every project, select pricelist,
select the project tab, select billable, and then re-enter the item
price for that project even though the price is already in the general
price list. And... you have to do this for every item in the pricelist
repetitively for every project.

Timesheet would really shine if there was the simple option to
"Apply general timesheet to project" or, in the pricelist, at least be
able to select the project and simply be able to change "No" by
selecting "billable" or "bookable" to apply the entry to the project.

(2) Billable needs to be set as default or a preference option
needs to be provided to set it to be the default.

Currently, if you enter a price for a pricelist element and save,
the entry defaults to "bookable" instead of "billable." This should be
changed. From an accounting standpoint "bookable" rarely applies and
only applies where there are contractual write-offs associated with
different payor classes such as a hospital that books recievables for
Medicare, Medicaid, 3rd Party payors, and private pay at full fare and
then knows they are "billable" at the government determined
reimbursement rate or the negotiated 3rd party payor rate. The
difference between bookable and billable being the contractual write
off. For 99% of normal people this never applies (unless they are
cooking with 2 sets of books -- that's a no no). So a default to
"billable" makes much more sense, at least from a legal and GAAP standpoint.

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Nav box for addresses should be duplicated at the bottom of the page

2007-11-19T09:49:15Z

Guys,

Here is a quick development, usability issue. When viewing addressbook,
the navigation box on the top of the address list should also be
duplicated at the bottom of the page. This is the box that contains the:

[<<-][<-][Category][Addressbook][Distriution lists][Search][#][->][->>]

After you scroll to the bottom of a page of addresses, presently you
can't select the next page of addresses without having to scroll back to
the top. This would be a great time saver. If you don't duplicate the
entire box, it would be nice to have at least the first, previous, next
and last, [<<-][<-][->][->>], at the page bottom to allow navigation
through the addresses from there.

Should I file a feature request or will this email be enough?

Keep up the great work!

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Need better way to associate pricelist to project

2007-11-12T10:07:59Z

Guys,

Is there any better way to associate the general pricelist to a project
besides selecting the project and then going through line-by-line in the
pricelist to associate each individual item with the project??

It would really be helpful to have a checkbox to the right of each
element of the pricelist so that you could simply create/edit the
project select pricelist from the menu (or go pricelist and then select
the project) and then have a checkbox so that you could check each
pricelist element that applies to the project and hit OK

Another (probably better) way would simply be to make all entries in
the general pricelist available to all projects by default.

Currently it is very cumbersome just to get a pricelist available to
each project.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Thoughts on Expense Tracking

2007-10-24T00:11:37Z

Hi David,

timesheet is, beside it's name, designed to track times and expenses.

You can create pricelist items of unit "each" and use just the start
date and quantity fields.

The date field is filled with the current date. If you want to record a
time with expenses, we could use the preset end-time (if not start time
or duration is given) as start time.

The only feature lacking compared to your describtion would be:
1. hierarchical pricelist items (eg. mail:certified, mail:insured)
2. extra interface for expenses removing the end-time and duration

Not sure how important (for my usage cases) these two are. Specially 2.
is a bit contra productive, as we use to track the time even for
expenses (eg. travelling time for km based travel expenses).

Ralf

David C. Rankin J.D. P.E. schrieb:

> Ralf, all,
>
> Here are a few thoughts on expense tracking in egw. (food for thought
> that is) We currently do all accounting in quickbooks. What we would
> like to find with egroupware is a quick way to "capture" case office and
> case expenses along with the attorney time so that expenses and time can
> be properly associated with each case. Currently we use a steno pad by
> the fax, another by the postage, another by the copier which all are
> manually entered in quickbooks.
>
> Egw does an excellent job with time. Our goal is to come up with a
> simple and convenient way to keep track of phone calls, faxes, postage,
> etc. Those are the things that are used every day, that often never get
> captured or billed because there is no "easy" or convenient way for the
> attorney to do it. (almost all attorneys are too bipolar to remember to
> go back to the fax and write down the 18 pages we just sent on the steno
> pad)(our staff does very well)
>
> With egw, a great addition would be a quick "expense" feature, that
> would basically be a pop-up, like timesheet, but with a much simpler
> interface that would present only the needed capture fields like:
>
> combobox combobox combobox text
> [project] [item] [subitem] [quantity]
>
> This could also be an "expense" button within the timesheet dialog
> itself. Time/date would be an autofill field. Each combo box would hold
> a list of all current items in the pricelist that would also serve as a
> "quick add" for either projects or items not already in the project or
> pricelist. The subitems could serve to keep the item list from growing
> to large. Examples (mail:certified, mail:insured, phone:intrastate,
> phone:interstate, etc., etc.)
>
> The "quick add" for a project would simply bring up the new project
> dialog (or simply add the project name to the project table with the
> details to be added later). The quick add for items or subitems would
> bring up a simple dialog that would allow for the "just in time" entry
> of the item name, description and cost per unit. That way the pricelist
> could be built and grow on its own without someone having to set aside
> time to build a pricelist.
>
> The natural follow on would be a print or report feature that would
> allow for the printing or exporting of client case expenses and time
> that could be easily added to quickbooks or serve as a stand-alone
> record for project expenses.
>
> As Egw grows, I would love to be able to use it for billing. With its
> logical design, and all the expense and time data captured in the
> database, the ability to use it for that purpose is just a matter of
> developing the output routines to make that data usable as such. I don't
> expect egw to grow into an accounting package, but then again, there is
> no reason it couldn't do everything that quickbooks does either and do
> it better. That is why I'm so impressed with the package.
>
> Thanks and keep up the great work.
>

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Thoughts on Expense Tracking

2007-10-23T21:59:36Z

Ralf, all,

Here are a few thoughts on expense tracking in egw. (food for thought
that is) We currently do all accounting in quickbooks. What we would
like to find with egroupware is a quick way to "capture" case office and
case expenses along with the attorney time so that expenses and time can
be properly associated with each case. Currently we use a steno pad by
the fax, another by the postage, another by the copier which all are
manually entered in quickbooks.

Egw does an excellent job with time. Our goal is to come up with a
simple and convenient way to keep track of phone calls, faxes, postage,
etc. Those are the things that are used every day, that often never get
captured or billed because there is no "easy" or convenient way for the
attorney to do it. (almost all attorneys are too bipolar to remember to
go back to the fax and write down the 18 pages we just sent on the steno
pad)(our staff does very well)

With egw, a great addition would be a quick "expense" feature, that
would basically be a pop-up, like timesheet, but with a much simpler
interface that would present only the needed capture fields like:

combobox combobox combobox text
[project] [item] [subitem] [quantity]

This could also be an "expense" button within the timesheet dialog
itself. Time/date would be an autofill field. Each combo box would hold
a list of all current items in the pricelist that would also serve as a
"quick add" for either projects or items not already in the project or
pricelist. The subitems could serve to keep the item list from growing
to large. Examples (mail:certified, mail:insured, phone:intrastate,
phone:interstate, etc., etc.)

The "quick add" for a project would simply bring up the new project
dialog (or simply add the project name to the project table with the
details to be added later). The quick add for items or subitems would
bring up a simple dialog that would allow for the "just in time" entry
of the item name, description and cost per unit. That way the pricelist
could be built and grow on its own without someone having to set aside
time to build a pricelist.

The natural follow on would be a print or report feature that would
allow for the printing or exporting of client case expenses and time
that could be easily added to quickbooks or serve as a stand-alone
record for project expenses.

As Egw grows, I would love to be able to use it for billing. With its
logical design, and all the expense and time data captured in the
database, the ability to use it for that purpose is just a matter of
developing the output routines to make that data usable as such. I don't
expect egw to grow into an accounting package, but then again, there is
no reason it couldn't do everything that quickbooks does either and do
it better. That is why I'm so impressed with the package.

Thanks and keep up the great work.

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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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Timesheet Entry Improvement

2007-10-17T15:17:32Z

Developers,

It would be nice to be able to select an end 'date' as well as an end
'time' when entering a timesheet entry. This becomes very apparent when
entering time past midnight or for people whose shift spans the course
of 2 days like an 11:00p to 7:00a shift.

The timesheet dialog allows for the selection of the begin date, but
not an end date. Currently, you can't simply set an end time if the time
is after midnight and are left with having to either make two separate
time sheet entries to account for the time or calculate and enter a
quantity to account for that time. By requiring the calculation of time,
the threat of error is increased. I don't know how difficult this would
be to implement, but I think it would be a great improvement for egw.

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Anyone implemented a "Price List" Feature for Timesheet/Infolog

2007-09-25T08:28:13Z

Hello,

Has anyone been successful in implementing a price list in egw so that
expenses, not just time, can be tracked with timesheet or infolog.
Something like:

Item Quantity UnitPrice

fax 4 .25/page
phone 6 .18/minute
West Research 3 8.00/minute
Expert Cost 1 2,500
Med Records 1 375
Filing fee 1 218

That way both expenses and time are captured and the expenses can be
put in a table so they can be selected from a drop down and the
resulting entry would be visible under Timesheet view?

Or better yet, It would also be great if the Timesheet view were a
tabbed view with two tabs. (1) Regular timesheet and (2) Expensesheet
that could be totaled by (everything/project/client/user or category)

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Re: [eGroupWare-users] Category Default for Project

2007-09-22T11:31:38Z

Ralf Becker wrote:
> Not at the moment, thought I'm not sure that's always wanted.
>
> Ralf
>

Ralf,

Let's say I have a client. His billing rate is $200/hr and the category
is 'malpractice'. When I add an info log or timesheet, I would like to
already have the rate and category default to $200/hr and malpractice to
prevent having to enter/reselect this information every time anything
related to that client/project is added, or worse yet, having someone
enter the *wrong* information. There can be hundreds of entries made per
client by numerous different people and implementing a default scheme
could save significant time and *prevent* errors.

Just a thought... but when a project is selected in timesheet, infolog
or whatever, it would seem the dialog could check/query the project for
the defaults and just fill in the dialog from there.

If it is not wanted, there is *no* wasted effort to change the fields
in the input dialogs that were going to be entered anyway. A default
scheme could significantly reduce errors that arise from
incorrect/ignorant user entry of information.

Maybe something to put on the back-burner, but if egw can offer error
reduction in data input, that is just another significant area where egw
will set itself apart as being a superior/efficient package.

> David Rankin schrieb:
>> Ralf, etc.
>>
>> Is there anyway that a category can be associated with a project so
>> that it will be the default for all items (etc. timesheet) subsequently
>> entered for the project?
>>

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Ability to increase client side caching??

2007-09-18T16:27:03Z

Ralf, all:

Is it possible to do more client side caching to speed up egw's
response? For example, when viewing infolog if you select add new
timesheet from the drop down menu at the top right of the titlebar, you
fill out the timesheet info, then egw regenerates the 'infolog' display
even though the infolog data didn't change due to the timesheet addition.

Another example would be changing from week view to month view in
calendar. Egw regenerates the entire display, menus and all when all
that is needed is to update the calendar display data.

I don't know if this is possible, but it seems like egw could be made a
lot more responsive if at least the top and side menus were cached
client side and you were only updating the needed information instead of
the entire page with each client input. Just a thought...

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Re: egw Spelling Error to Fix

2007-09-18T12:06:42Z

Ralf Becker wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> thanks for the info, it's fixed now in svn for 1.4 and trunk.
>
> I was always wondering why my spell checker dont like "therefor", so I
> switched to "there for" which is ok for it, but of cause not the same
> thing ;-)
>
> Ralf
>
> David C. Rankin schrieb:
>> Ralf, just a spelling typo to fix I stumbled on following a recent thread:
>>
>>
>> http://www.rbpllc.com/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=preferences.uisettings.index&appname=preferences&account_id=25&type=forced
>>
>> How would you like to select accounts
>> The selectbox shows all available users (can be very slow on big
>> installs with many users). The popup can search users by name or group.
>> The two last options limit the visibility of other users. There for they
>> ^^^^^^^^^
>> Spelling: "Therefore"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Ralf,

I will keep an eye out for any more and send them along as I find them.
Thanks for the great work!

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Re: egw Spelling Error to Fix

2007-09-18T00:53:47Z

Hi David,

thanks for the info, it's fixed now in svn for 1.4 and trunk.

I was always wondering why my spell checker dont like "therefor", so I
switched to "there for" which is ok for it, but of cause not the same
thing ;-)

Ralf

David C. Rankin schrieb:

> Ralf, just a spelling typo to fix I stumbled on following a recent thread:
>
>
> http://www.rbpllc.com/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=preferences.uisettings.index&appname=preferences&account_id=25&type=forced
>
> How would you like to select accounts
> The selectbox shows all available users (can be very slow on big
> installs with many users). The popup can search users by name or group.
> The two last options limit the visibility of other users. There for they
> ^^^^^^^^^
> Spelling: "Therefore"
>
>
>
>

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egw Spelling Error to Fix

2007-09-17T19:15:27Z

Ralf, just a spelling typo to fix I stumbled on following a recent thread:

http://www.rbpllc.com/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=preferences.uisettings.index&appname=preferences&account_id=25&type=forced

How would you like to select accounts
The selectbox shows all available users (can be very slow on big
installs with many users). The popup can search users by name or group.
The two last options limit the visibility of other users. There for they
^^^^^^^^^
Spelling: "Therefore"

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Prevent Timesheet Entry Auto Erase

2007-09-11T21:10:16Z

Ralf, all

This is sort of a feature request and help request all rolled into one.
This applies to the timesheet entry dialog and the main timesheet view
window with 'no detail' selected.

First, Is there any way to prevent the Timesheet entry Title field from
auto erasing the project information upon entry into the field? Why?
Our office manager uses the main timesheet window with "no details" to
move timesheet entries to Quickbooks for accounting purposes. The
project is not shown in the "no details" timesheet view and unless the
project name remains in the Title field, there is no way to tell what
project the timesheet entry belongs to without selecting 'details' which
more than doubles the time it takes to move the timesheet data over.

In order for her to be able to quickly transfer the information, we
must put the client/project name in the Timesheet entry 'Title' field.
By default, the timesheet entry Title field is filled with the project
number and project name. For our use, when entering time in the
timesheet dialog, we just need to delete the project number and type in
the case specific information to the Title for proper tracking.

What is frustrating is the 'auto erase' behavior deletes *all* of the
project information from the Title field when you enter the field
forcing you to have to 're-type' the project name again plus the
information related to that specific entry.

In some browsers you can hit 'esc' a couple of times and get the
project information back into the Title field so that you can edit it as
needed. Unfortunately Konqueror isn't one of them. So what I need to
know is:

(1) Is there anywhere I can kill the 'auto erase' behavior?, if not

(2) How can I make the project information display in the timesheet view
with "no details" selected??

There is plenty of room in the Title cell to display both. The two-line
'Date' column has both the date and time displayed while the one-line
'Title' field has only the title displayed in 'no detail' view. It would
be of great help to display the two-line 'Title/Project' combination in
the title field in the 'no detail' view.

For our data transfer purpose displaying the 'details' is very
cumbersome and inefficient. Many of the timesheet entries are 10-15
lines long making the detail view difficult to use for this timesheet
transfer.

I have also tried etemplate to add the project information to the Title
field of the 'no detail' timesheet view to no avail, so I'm stuck and my
office manager is throwing stones at me to find a solution. So do I have
any hope of being able to accomplish either (1) or (2) above?

Thanks as always

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Re: [eGroupWare-users] The following From address failed

2007-08-30T22:17:24Z

Ralf Becker wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> this can have many reasons: in my case (RalfBecker@...)
> it could be eg. the graylisting, which rejects the first delivery.
>
> I dont think it's a general issue and I cant help everyone using eGW :-(
>
> If you need professional support, please go to www.egroupware-support.eu
>
> Hoping for your understanding
>
> Ralf
>
> David Rankin schrieb:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> there's a fixed timeout in phpgwapi/inc/class.phpmailer.inc.php Line 194:
>>
>> var $Timeout = 10;
>>
>> I had to set it in some installations to a higher value, maybe that's
>> your problem too.
>>
>> Ralf
>>
>> David Rankin schrieb:
>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> This is a **HUGE** bug and problem that has been around since 1.2.00x
>>>> Everyone get this error using felamimail in my office. What is funny is if
>>>> after you get the message, you hit send again and it will send the mail or
>>>> time out. If it times out and give the same error a 2nd time, hit send again
>>>> and the message **will** go out. I have posted this error numerous times, but
>>>> it still has not been fixed. We end up using Outlook to send mail and use
>>>> egroupware for everything else....
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it will get addressed and fixed this time...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
>>>> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
>>>> 510 Ochiltree Street
>>>> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
>>>> (936) 715-9333
>>>> (936) 715-9339 fax
>>>> www.rankinlawfirm.com <http://www.rankinlawfirm.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: egroupware-users-bounces@... <mailto:egroupware-users-bounces@...>
>>>> [mailto:egroupware-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of dave5
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:47 PM
>>>> To: egroupware-users@... <mailto:egroupware-users@...>
>>>> Subject: [eGroupWare-users] The following From address failed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Came in to work after the weekend and no one can send emails. Viewing and
>>>> everything else still works perfectly. Nothing was updated on the server
>>>> over the weekend, so I'm stumped.
>>>>
>>>> I'm running Exim4 which can still send emails via command line or using
>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird, but Egroupware returns the error "The following From
>>>> address failed" followed by the users email address. This is happening for
>>>> all users in all instances.
>>>>
>>>> the Exim4 mainlog reads,
>>>>
>>>> SMTP protocol synchronization error (input sent without waiting for
>>>> greeting): rejected connection f
>>>> rom H=[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] U=www-data input="EHLO xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx\r\nHELO
>>>> xxx.xxxxx.xxx\r\n"
>>>>
>>>> If I force exim4 to ignore the greeting (smtp_enforce_sync=false) I get the
>>>> follow error in the logs.
>>>>
>>>> SMTP connection from (xxxx.xxxxxxx.xx) [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] lost while reading
>>>> message data (after header)
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts,
>>>> thanx
>>>> --
>> --
>> Ralf Becker
>>
>> ---------------------------
>> ****** PRIVATE EMAIL ******
>>
>> ---------------------------
>>
>>
>> Direct to Ralf,
>>
>>
>> It is not fixed for our SuSE 10.0 setup or out Mandriva 2006 setup. Both
>> servers fail to send with the first try giving the message discussed
>> here. This message is beind send from my 3111skyline.com setup and it
>> will probably fail the first time I try.
>>
>> "Yep it failed again on the first send attempt with the error of:
>>
>> *SMTP Error: The following recipients failed:
>> RalfBecker@...*
>>
>> I have given you and Lars full admin accounts on the 3111skyline.com
>> install to let you see the error we get trying to send mail and to
>> hopefully get it resolved. Your account is "ralf" and you p.w. is
>> "beckeregw1". Lars is "lars" and "kneschke". The are active until 9/30
>>
>>
>>
>> I would really like to try and get this solved as a big part of egw is
>> unuasable in my opensuse 10.0 and mandrive 2006le setup.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know what else I can do or provide you with to help get the smtp
>> error fixed.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
>> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
>> 510 Ochiltree Street
>> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
>> (936) 715-9333
>> (936) 715-9339 fax
>> www.rankinlawfirm.com
>>
>

Ralf,

I apologize, the $Timeout 30; class.phpmailer.inc.php seems to have
worked. One observation for usability; Is there any way to background
the message after the [send] button has been pressed and only pop it
back up in case of an error?? Right now the user just stares at the
mail they have thought they have sent for 20 seconds wondering what is
happening.

Also, a default $timeout of 30 might cure a lot of problems...

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(936) 715-9333
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Open feature request on fixing Address display Order...

2007-08-22T11:43:02Z

Gesellschaft
<http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=46uT..&search=Gesellschaft> der
<http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=46uT..&search=der> Freunde
<http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=46uT..&search=Freunde> , Society of
Friends:

We have been trying to get the addressbook display fixed to that the
addresses are shown like:

Address1
Address 2
City, State Zip
Country

This is the way all address are handled in the US (not to say other
countries shouldn't have an option for their preference as well).
However in 24376, the addresses are still displayed like this:

adr_one_countryname
adr_one_locality, adr_one_region adr_one_postalcode
adr_one_street
adr_one_street2

This is upside down for everyone in the US and makes it very
difficult for users to cut and paste addresses without having to cut and
paste again to switch the street lines and locality, region and postal
code lines again. ??`Is there any home of getting a svn release with
the address display switched to:

adr_one_street
adr_one_street2
adr_one_locality, adr_one_region adr_one_postalcode
adr_one_countryname

Thanks for all the great work. Also, what file would I have to edit
to change the display??? Do I have to use etemplate?? I am still not
that comfortable with the grid use in etemplate and don't want to mess
anything up. I can find addressbook.index.rows 1.4.002, but I can't
figure out how to change the display order.

Thanks.

[drankinatty.vcf]

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Feature Reques - Collapseable Category/Subcatagory

2007-08-22T10:06:16Z

Request,

One thing that would greatly improve the usability of egw is to have
the category select lists collapseable. For example, when entering a
calendar item, when you go to select the category, you have to scroll
through a number of subcategory listing to get to the category you want.
We have a number of categories and subcategories. One example is the
category 'Clients':

Clients<Global>
Bertin<Global> Bertin Clients Add sub
Guillory<Global> Guillory Law Firm Clients Add sub

Joint - BA<Global> Bertin-Allen Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - GA<Global> Guillory-Allen Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - GB<Global> Guillory-Bertin Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - RA<Global> Rankin - Allen Clients Add sub

Joint - RB<Global> Rankin Bertin Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - RG<Global> Rankin-Guillory Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint-RGA<Global> Joint Case Rankin, Guillory, Allen
Add sub
Potential<Global> Potential Clients Add sub
Rankin<Global> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC Clients Add sub

Cases<Global> Categories of Cases Add sub
Auto<Global> Automobile/Car Wreck Cases Add sub

Commercial<Global> Commercial Cases Add sub
Family<Global> Family Law Cases Add sub
Med Mal<Global> Medical Malpractice Cases Add
sub
Products<Global> Product Liability Cases Add sub

Engineering<Global> Engineering Related Cases Add
sub

It would be great to be able to collapse the category Clients such as:

[+] Clients<Global>

and then when Clients is expanded you see:

[-]Clients<Global>
Bertin<Global> Bertin Clients Add sub
Guillory<Global> Guillory Law Firm Clients Add sub

Joint - BA<Global> Bertin-Allen Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - GA<Global> Guillory-Allen Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - GB<Global> Guillory-Bertin Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - RA<Global> Rankin - Allen Clients Add sub

Joint - RB<Global> Rankin Bertin Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint - RG<Global> Rankin-Guillory Joint Clients Add
sub
Joint-RGA<Global> Joint Case Rankin, Guillory, Allen
Add sub
Potential<Global> Potential Clients Add sub
[+]Rankin<Global> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC Clients Add
sub

and of course if Rankin was expanded you would see the first full
list shown above. This would greatly reduce the category list clutter
and speed the selection of the alphabetically later categories like:

Court<Global> Court Add sub
Court Appearance Court Appearance/Hearings/Trial
Court Reporters<Global> Add sub
Deadline Deadline Add sub Edit
Depositions Add sub Edit Delete
Experts<Global> Experts Add sub
Financial<Global> Banking & Financial Services Add sub

Insurance<Global> Insurance & Adjuster Information Add
sub
Law<Global> Law and Attorney Related Matters Add sub

and so on. We have 48 categories total and the full category list
in all applications is getting pretty long. Just something to
consider. Thank you for this fantastic product!

[drankinatty.vcf]

How to fix/increase contrast of gray/white alternating lines in calendar

2007-08-18T08:32:02Z

Ralf, Lars:

Over the past 6 months, the white-gray contrast distinguishing the
"fixed time intervals" in calendar view has become so subtle it is
almost unnoticeable. The gray shading needs to be increased another 5%
at least. Where can I find this setting to fix it? Also, should I open a
bug or feature request for it?

[drankinatty.vcf]

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Project Manager List Needs timesheet Action on Linked InfoLog

2007-08-03T10:05:57Z

Ralf, Lars:

In project manager, when viewing a project with infolog entries linked
to the project, there is no *timesheet* icon shown under the actions for the
infolog. This greatly affects usability. Without the timesheet icon, you
have to leave project manager, go to the info log and then start the
timesheet entry for that infolog. By then you are completely taken away from
the project view where you wanted to be to begin with.

It would make a lot of sense to include the timesheet action icon on the
linked infolog in the project manager view and would improve the usability
of an already *excellent* application.

--
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Show [ Project ] In Timesheet View

2007-08-01T15:09:04Z

Currently in Timesheet when our office manager needs to transfer our
time to Quickbooks, she is presented with the following fields in timesheet
view with "no details" shown.

Date, Title, Category, Duration, Quantity, Price, Total, User, Actions

The problem is that the "Title" displayed is the title of the timesheet
entry and there is no information about what project the timesheet entry is
linked to unless she opens each of the timesheet entries and looks to see
which project it is associated with. This is very time consuming. It would
be much better and easier on her if the project information was displayed in
the timesheet listing as well like this:

Date, [Project], Title, Category, Duration, Quantity, Price, Total, User,
Actions

This would make egw much more usable and provide a correlation between
the timesheet entry and project for anyone that looks at the timesheet.

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Re: survey

2007-06-28T01:38:40Z

hi augustin,

thanks for your interest in the survey. i've temporarly uploaded the final
results here:

http://www.divshare.com/download/1100961-7dd

as far as i remeber you can find all asked questions in there too.

which other survey are you planning?

all the best,

rob

Am Dienstag, 26. Juni 2007 13:16 schrieb augustin siaens:

> Hi there,
>
> I've noticed that the survey results are not available anymore on the link
> mentioned on the egw site. Would it be possible to receive it?
>
> I also would like to know if it was possible to receive the questions of
> the survey to use as template/inspiration for another surveys
>
> thanks
>
> augustin

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survey

2007-06-26T05:16:49Z

Hi there,

I've noticed that the survey results are not available anymore on the link mentioned on the egw site. Would it be possible to receive it?

I also would like to know if it was possible to receive the questions of the survey to use as template/inspiration for another surveys

thanks

augustin

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eGroupWare usability team installation prepared

2007-06-10T22:56:44Z

Hello!

I just prepared the eGW installation where we can work together.

Please send me a email containing your realname and you prefered login name. Then will i setup a personal account for you.

Lars Kneschke
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Re: Possible Meeting at LinuxTag 2007

2007-05-26T01:48:21Z

I know Lars will be there - though I dont know if Lars reads this list ;-)

Ralf

Robert Lischke schrieb:

> okay -- so we'll come visit you at your booth on friday morning and see if we
> can find a proper time and place for a small chat :)
>
> who else will be present at linuxtag? lars? cornelius?
>
> see you there,
>
>
>
> rob
>
> Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 19:44 schrieb Robert Lischke:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it might
>> be a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.
>>
>> Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?
>>
>> I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Robert Lischke
>>
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Re: Possible Meeting at LinuxTag 2007

2007-05-26T01:00:38Z

Hi,

i can't be there, my life is to busy these days...

cu
conny

Robert Lischke schrieb:

> okay -- so we'll come visit you at your booth on friday morning and see if we
> can find a proper time and place for a small chat :)
>
> who else will be present at linuxtag? lars? cornelius?
>
> see you there,
>
>
>
> rob
>
> Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 19:44 schrieb Robert Lischke:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it might
>> be a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.
>>
>> Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?
>>
>> I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Robert Lischke
>>
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2007-05-25T10:26:44Z

okay -- so we'll come visit you at your booth on friday morning and see if we
can find a proper time and place for a small chat :)

who else will be present at linuxtag? lars? cornelius?

see you there,

rob

Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 19:44 schrieb Robert Lischke:

> Hi everybody,
>
> with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it might
> be a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.
>
> Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?
>
> I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Robert Lischke
>
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Re: Possible Meeting at LinuxTag 2007

2007-05-19T07:37:11Z

Hi Everybody,

Friday would be fine with me. I have a meeting at 15:00 - so it would be good
to meet before that on Friday - perhaps we can just do it in the morning.

Cheers,
Björn

On Friday, 18. May 2007 19:57:26 Ralf Becker wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> that's a pretty good idea :-)
>
> I'm available from Tuesday to Saturday - thought there's usually little
> time at the first and the last day. So Wednesday - Friday might be best.
>
> Ralf
>
> Robert Lischke schrieb:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it
> > might be a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.
> >
> > Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?
> >
> > I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> >
> > Robert Lischke
> >
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Re: Possible Meeting at LinuxTag 2007

2007-05-18T11:57:26Z

Hi Robert,

that's a pretty good idea :-)

I'm available from Tuesday to Saturday - thought there's usually little
time at the first and the last day. So Wednesday - Friday might be best.

Ralf

Robert Lischke schrieb:

> Hi everybody,
>
> with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it might be
> a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.
>
> Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?
>
> I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Robert Lischke
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
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Possible Meeting at LinuxTag 2007

2007-05-18T11:44:41Z

Hi everybody,

with eGroupWare 1.4 getting close to the final release, I thought it might be
a good idea to have a small meeting at LinuxTag.

Who would be up for this? Which days would be possible for you?

I personally would prefer friday or saturday (1./2.6.2007).

All the best,

Robert Lischke

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Re: status quo

2007-03-27T21:51:57Z

Hi Markus,

I'm back from my New Zealand / Thailand vacation and will start working
again with the beginning of the next week.

Btw. I made a big progress in a - I think - usability related matter:
every user can now specify in all (eTemplate) Lists which columns he
wants to see or not to see. That's done quite similar to how
mozilla/thunderbird does is, with a little icon opening a popup, in
which so just check all columns you want to see. (Of cause there's a
programmatic default, which can be changed by an admin specifying a
default preference for that too). The use is really intuitive and it
allow to simplify the number of preferences (show these or that column)
in each app.

Again I will be available again from Monday next week on.

Ralf

Markus Dölle schrieb:

> Hi everybody,
>
> the usability team wants to say hello again and ask for the status quo
> of the project. From our point of view there has been little development
> and communication concerning the usability aspects since the conference,
> so we would like to discuss the current situation and why nothing really
> happened by now.
>
> We propose a date for a chat meeting on irc-channel
> #egroupware-usability for next monday, 12.2., 10:00am, for maybe one
> hour, not more, to talk about the plans, next steps and the
> communication channels to use in future.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Markus
>
>
>
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Re: status quo

2007-02-12T13:22:24Z

Hi again,

I updated my feature request. Please have a look at it

Thanx
Christian

Robert Lischke-2 wrote:

hi christian,

> wanted to reach you guys somehow, but failed, cause there's no possibility
> to put a message into the usability list here, so you could read it. I don't

you can post messages, but they'll be moderated.

> I've got a thiing to think about for you. Connie said, it should be
> discussed by the usability team, so here's the thread:
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920

i'll look into it :)

cheers,

rob

> Christian
>
>
> Markus Dölle wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> the usability team wants to say hello again and ask for the status quo
>> of the project. From our point of view there has been little development
>> and communication concerning the usability aspects since the conference,
>> so we would like to discuss the current situation and why nothing really
>> happened by now.
>>
>> We propose a date for a chat meeting on irc-channel
>> #egroupware-usability for next monday, 12.2., 10:00am, for maybe one
>> hour, not more, to talk about the plans, next steps and the
>> communication channels to use in future.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
>> easier.
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>

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Re: status quo

2007-02-11T11:25:56Z

Hi Robert,

thank you to have a look at the calendar issue.

For the forum, I meant, it would be good that others can make new threads in here. That's not possible (for me) atm. It's just possible to answer on existing threads.

Bye
Christian

Robert Lischke-2 wrote:

hi christian,

> wanted to reach you guys somehow, but failed, cause there's no possibility
> to put a message into the usability list here, so you could read it. I don't

you can post messages, but they'll be moderated.

> I've got a thiing to think about for you. Connie said, it should be
> discussed by the usability team, so here's the thread:
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920

i'll look into it :)

cheers,

rob

> Christian
>
>
> Markus Dölle wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> the usability team wants to say hello again and ask for the status quo
>> of the project. From our point of view there has been little development
>> and communication concerning the usability aspects since the conference,
>> so we would like to discuss the current situation and why nothing really
>> happened by now.
>>
>> We propose a date for a chat meeting on irc-channel
>> #egroupware-usability for next monday, 12.2., 10:00am, for maybe one
>> hour, not more, to talk about the plans, next steps and the
>> communication channels to use in future.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
>> easier.
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>> _______________________________________________
>> eGroupWare-usability mailing list
>> eGroupWare-usability@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-usability
>>
>>
>

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Re: status quo

2007-02-11T09:04:59Z

hi christian,

> wanted to reach you guys somehow, but failed, cause there's no possibility
> to put a message into the usability list here, so you could read it. I don't

you can post messages, but they'll be moderated.

> I've got a thiing to think about for you. Connie said, it should be
> discussed by the usability team, so here's the thread:
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920
> http://www.nabble.com/recurring-events-bug---question-tf3127810s3741.html#a8674920

i'll look into it :)

cheers,

rob

> Christian
>
>
> Markus Dölle wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> the usability team wants to say hello again and ask for the status quo
>> of the project. From our point of view there has been little development
>> and communication concerning the usability aspects since the conference,
>> so we would like to discuss the current situation and why nothing really
>> happened by now.
>>
>> We propose a date for a chat meeting on irc-channel
>> #egroupware-usability for next monday, 12.2., 10:00am, for maybe one
>> hour, not more, to talk about the plans, next steps and the
>> communication channels to use in future.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
>> easier.
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>> _______________________________________________
>> eGroupWare-usability mailing list
>> eGroupWare-usability@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-usability
>>
>>
>

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