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> From: lilypond-user-bounces+ursus.kirk=ziggo.nl@... [mailto:lilypond-
> user-bounces+ursus.kirk=ziggo.nl@...] On Behalf Of Reinhold Kainhofer
> Sent: woensdag 4 november 2009 1:06
> To: lilypond-user@...
> Subject: Re: error
>
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> Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 21:33:51 schrieb Erik Appeldoorn:
> > Did I understand correctly that hairpins and (de)crescendo's
> automatically
> > end on a volume specifier?
> >
> > Like c\< d e f g\f, where the crescendo ends on (or just before) the g
> with
> > the forte. I shouldn't have to end them with an \!
> >
> > I get errors: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume.
>
> This has nothing to do with the implicit \!
> The problem appears when the volume before and after a (de)crescendo is
> the
> same (typically because of an implicit decrescendo, which is not notated),
> so
> lilypond does not know how to handle the crescendo.
>
> I'm able to reproduce that warning with the following code:
>
> \version "2.13.7"
> \score {
>  \new Staff \relative c'{
>    c\f d e f
>    c\< d e f\!\f
>   }
>   \midi {}
> }
>
> Note that the volume is already \f, and then another crescendo starts and
> ends
> with \f, too. Typically, some parts after the first \f would be played a
> little less forte, so the crescendo makes sense.
>
> Granted, that warning message has extremly  bad wording, and it does not
> tell
> you at all where in the problem is! I have not checked, whether the
> location
> can be included in the warning, which would be quite an improvement.
>
> AFAICS, that warning is triggered in the function
> Audio_span_dynamic::render(), so it happens after parsing. And the code is
> structured so that all superfluous dynamics are discarded. The message is
> then
> printed if no dynamics changes are left for the crescendo. First, I have
> no
> idea if it is even possible to get the position in the code at that time,
> even
> if the dynamic object is still available... And second, one would have to
> restructure the code a little bit to keep the discarded dynamics around,
> from
> which one might possibly get the position in the code.
>
> Cheers,
> Reinhold
> - --
> - ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Reinhold Kainhofer, reinhold@..., http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
>  * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
>  * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
>  * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Vila [mailto:paconet.org@...]
> Sent: woensdag 4 november 2009 0:19
> To: Erik Appeldoorn
> Cc: lilypond-user@...
> Subject: Re: error
>
> 2009/11/3 Erik Appeldoorn <ursus.kirk@...>:
> > Did I understand correctly that hairpins and (de)crescendo's
> automatically
> > end on a volume specifier?
> >
> > Like c\< d e f g\f, where the crescendo ends on (or just before) the g
> with
> > the forte. I shouldn't have to end them with an \!
> >
> > I get errors: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume.
>
> What version are you using? I can not reproduce it on 2.13.7; it
> compiles without errors or warnings and gives the expected output.
> --
> Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
> www.paconet.org
> www.csmbadajoz.com

> Thanks Reinhold,
>
> As I wanted the hairpins and the forte afterwards for me the output is not
> erroneous. Indeed the error-wording does suggest a music-coding error where
> in fact there might be none.
>
> I'm not into changing source code, someone else will have to figure that one
> out.
>
> Keep well, Erik
>
>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lilypond-user-bounces+ursus.kirk=ziggo.nl@... [mailto:lilypond-
>> user-bounces+ursus.kirk=ziggo.nl@...] On Behalf Of Reinhold Kainhofer
>> Sent: woensdag 4 november 2009 1:06
>> To: lilypond-user@...
>> Subject: Re: error
>>
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>> Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 21:33:51 schrieb Erik Appeldoorn:
>>    
>>> Did I understand correctly that hairpins and (de)crescendo's
>>>      
>> automatically
>>    
>>> end on a volume specifier?
>>>
>>> Like c\< d e f g\f, where the crescendo ends on (or just before) the g
>>>      
>> with
>>    
>>> the forte. I shouldn't have to end them with an \!
>>>
>>> I get errors: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume.
>>>      
>> This has nothing to do with the implicit \!
>> The problem appears when the volume before and after a (de)crescendo is
>> the
>> same (typically because of an implicit decrescendo, which is not notated),
>> so
>> lilypond does not know how to handle the crescendo.
>>
>> I'm able to reproduce that warning with the following code:
>>
>> \version "2.13.7"
>> \score {
>>  \new Staff \relative c'{
>>    c\f d e f
>>    c\< d e f\!\f
>>   }
>>   \midi {}
>> }
>>
>> Note that the volume is already \f, and then another crescendo starts and
>> ends
>> with \f, too. Typically, some parts after the first \f would be played a
>> little less forte, so the crescendo makes sense.
>>
>> Granted, that warning message has extremly  bad wording, and it does not
>> tell
>> you at all where in the problem is! I have not checked, whether the
>> location
>> can be included in the warning, which would be quite an improvement.
>>
>> AFAICS, that warning is triggered in the function
>> Audio_span_dynamic::render(), so it happens after parsing. And the code is
>> structured so that all superfluous dynamics are discarded. The message is
>> then
>> printed if no dynamics changes are left for the crescendo. First, I have
>> no
>> idea if it is even possible to get the position in the code at that time,
>> even
>> if the dynamic object is still available... And second, one would have to
>> restructure the code a little bit to keep the discarded dynamics around,
>> from
>> which one might possibly get the position in the code.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Reinhold
>> - --
>> - ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Reinhold Kainhofer, reinhold@..., http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
>>  * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
>>  * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
>>  * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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