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by autozoom :: Rate this Message:

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Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would really like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release with fixes for FF3.
Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about autocomplete fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key presses at times.

Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.

I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks a something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.

This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces migration forum on icefaces site to read about it.

I really hope some progress will be achieved soon

thanks Mauro

Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by Paolo Proni :: Rate this Message:

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Ciao,
  I suggest you to change the framework, if you are still on time.
  The developement of Woodstock has been a big "botta sui denti" for me...

Paolo


autozoom ha scritto:

> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would really
> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
> with fixes for FF3.
> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about autocomplete
> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
> presses at times.
>
> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>
> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks a
> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>
> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces migration
> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>
> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>
> thanks Mauro
>  



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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by autozoom :: Rate this Message:

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We're already in production since october, and porting to Icefaces will take weeks if not months.
Sun please give us a word about this.

Paolo Proni wrote:
Ciao,
  I suggest you to change the framework, if you are still on time.
  The developement of Woodstock has been a big "botta sui denti" for me...

Paolo


autozoom ha scritto:
> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would really
> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
> with fixes for FF3.
> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about autocomplete
> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
> presses at times.
>
> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>
> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks a
> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>
> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces migration
> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>
> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>
> thanks Mauro
>  



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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by FkJ :: Rate this Message:

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For new projects I suggest RichFaces. It supports partial refresh with the reRender attribute. I think it's better than ICEFaces...

http://livedemo.exadel.com/richfaces-demo/welcome.jsf

2009/1/19 autozoom <cioni_mauro@...>

We're already in production since october, and porting to Icefaces will take
weeks if not months.
Sun please give us a word about this.


Paolo Proni wrote:
>
> Ciao,
>   I suggest you to change the framework, if you are still on time.
>   The developement of Woodstock has been a big "botta sui denti" for me...
>
> Paolo
>
>
> autozoom ha scritto:
>> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would
>> really
>> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
>> with fixes for FF3.
>> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about
>> autocomplete
>> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
>> presses at times.
>>
>> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>>
>> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks
>> a
>> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
>> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>>
>> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces
>> migration
>> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>>
>> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>>
>> thanks Mauro
>>
>
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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by bbergquist :: Rate this Message:

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I totally agree.  I have a product in production and I can now only
support FF2 and am getting flack about when FF3 will be supported.  
Changing to Icefaces is a many month process for me.

autozoom wrote:

> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would really
> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
> with fixes for FF3.
> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about autocomplete
> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
> presses at times.
>
> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>
> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks a
> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>
> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces migration
> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>
> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>
> thanks Mauro
> --
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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by fedevela :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I've been using woodstock 4.1 without problems on FF2 and FF3 and IE.

Perhaps it would help you to downgrade a further step down?

That is of course if the feature set of 4.1 is sufficient.

Regards,

Federico Vela

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Brett Bergquist wrote:

> I totally agree.  I have a product in production and I can now only
> support FF2 and am getting flack about when FF3 will be supported.  
> Changing to Icefaces is a many month process for me.
>
> autozoom wrote:
>> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would
>> really
>> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
>> with fixes for FF3.
>> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about
>> autocomplete
>> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
>> presses at times.
>>
>> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>>
>> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it
>> lacks a
>> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
>> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>>
>> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces
>> migration
>> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>>
>> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>>
>> thanks Mauro
>> --
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>> http://www.nabble.com/final-woodstock-4.2-release--tp21541085p21541085.html 
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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by autozoom :: Rate this Message:

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If I am not wrong, 4.1 didn't have ajax features, autocomplete and so on...
it's a little bit too old for my requirements

And honestly I think that developers who trust a big company like Sun, deserve at least the minimum support to make their project live for a little bit more than a couple of months.

fedevela wrote:
Hi all,

I've been using woodstock 4.1 without problems on FF2 and FF3 and IE.

Perhaps it would help you to downgrade a further step down?

That is of course if the feature set of 4.1 is sufficient.

Regards,

Federico Vela

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Brett Bergquist wrote:
> I totally agree.  I have a product in production and I can now only
> support FF2 and am getting flack about when FF3 will be supported.  
> Changing to Icefaces is a many month process for me.
>
> autozoom wrote:
>> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would
>> really
>> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
>> with fixes for FF3.
>> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about
>> autocomplete
>> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
>> presses at times.
>>
>> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>>
>> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it
>> lacks a
>> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
>> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>>
>> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces
>> migration
>> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>>
>> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>>
>> thanks Mauro
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/final-woodstock-4.2-release--tp21541085p21541085.html 
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Parent Message unknown Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by Stephan Bardubitzki-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Ya, right! That's the way.

Sun and respectively NetBeans have encourage developers for years to use
Woodstock and VWP. Now, that the decision was made to drop Woodstock
just open source it and throw the ball to the community to fix the bugs.

For someone who used the framework in production there is simply no time
to fix the bugs of tools you are using.

Regards,
Stephan

> As Woodstock is OpenSource, you can fix this bugs your own ;-D
>
> At least - you can try to do it ...
>
> GL
>
> Stephan Bardubitzki wrote:
>>
>> We're already in production since october, and porting to Icefaces
>> will take
>> weeks if not months.
>> Sun please give us a word about this.
>>  
> I agree with autozoom, porting a project in production to IceFaces is
> not an option due to deadlines. It will also introduces new bugs and
> not for every Woodstock component there is a migration path to IceFaces.
>
> Woodstock 4.2 has to be finalized with the bug fixes for FF3 and has
> to be available with NetBeans VWP for a very long time!!!

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RE: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by Alex Sherwin :: Rate this Message:

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I agree, in principal.

But tell that to their investors

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:JAVA

Sun is a publically traded company, after all



Alex Sherwin
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Ya, right! That's the way.

Sun and respectively NetBeans have encourage developers for years to use
Woodstock and VWP. Now, that the decision was made to drop Woodstock
just open source it and throw the ball to the community to fix the bugs.

For someone who used the framework in production there is simply no time
to fix the bugs of tools you are using.

Regards,
Stephan

> As Woodstock is OpenSource, you can fix this bugs your own ;-D
>
> At least - you can try to do it ...
>
> GL
>
> Stephan Bardubitzki wrote:
>>
>> We're already in production since october, and porting to Icefaces
>> will take
>> weeks if not months.
>> Sun please give us a word about this.
>>  
> I agree with autozoom, porting a project in production to IceFaces is
> not an option due to deadlines. It will also introduces new bugs and
> not for every Woodstock component there is a migration path to IceFaces.
>
> Woodstock 4.2 has to be finalized with the bug fixes for FF3 and has
> to be available with NetBeans VWP for a very long time!!!

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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?

by Stephan Bardubitzki-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Don't get me wrong. Sun is for me the most innovative IT company there
is. And it is dear to my heart that the get back to profitability as
soon as possible. And I'm sure they will with the products and services
in there portfolio.

Dropping a product it reasonable, but IMO the support has to continue.
The community  and I have asked Sun since about June '08 to clarify the
future of Woodstock, but no response for months. And that is what
brought my on business at risk.

Regards,
Stephan

Alex Sherwin wrote:

> I agree, in principal.
>
> But tell that to their investors
>
> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:JAVA
>
> Sun is a publically traded company, after all
>
>
>
> Alex Sherwin
> alex.sherwin@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephan Bardubitzki [mailto:stephan@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:12 PM
> To: users@...
> Subject: Re: final woodstock 4.2 release?
>
> Ya, right! That's the way.
>
> Sun and respectively NetBeans have encourage developers for years to use
> Woodstock and VWP. Now, that the decision was made to drop Woodstock
> just open source it and throw the ball to the community to fix the bugs.
>
> For someone who used the framework in production there is simply no time
> to fix the bugs of tools you are using.
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
>  
>> As Woodstock is OpenSource, you can fix this bugs your own ;-D
>>
>> At least - you can try to do it ...
>>
>> GL
>>
>> Stephan Bardubitzki wrote:
>>    
>>> We're already in production since october, and porting to Icefaces
>>> will take
>>> weeks if not months.
>>> Sun please give us a word about this.
>>>  
>>>      
>> I agree with autozoom, porting a project in production to IceFaces is
>> not an option due to deadlines. It will also introduces new bugs and
>> not for every Woodstock component there is a migration path to IceFaces.
>>
>> Woodstock 4.2 has to be finalized with the bug fixes for FF3 and has
>> to be available with NetBeans VWP for a very long time!!!
>>    
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Re: final woodstock 4.2 release? Still waiting to hear some input

by bbergquist :: Rate this Message:

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Customers are pressuring us for FF3 support.  FF2 keeps coming up with
the option to upgrade and one slip and our apps no longer work.  
Something as fundamental as a tree component (used for navigation) does
not respond to any input at all :(  Since that is the launching point
for the other pages it is a major show stopper.


autozoom wrote:

> Maybe I am not reading the right forums or mailing lists, but I would really
> like to know the progress about deploying the final woodstock 4.2 release
> with fixes for FF3.
> Downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2 I have also found a big issue about autocomplete
> fields in 4.2, which overlaps the text field and doesn't react to key
> presses at times.
>
> Are there dates we can rely on? No news is bad news in this case.
>
> I am also studying the icefaces framework; it's quite good, but it lacks a
> something that I use very much in woodstock, that is the possibility to
> $(id).refresh() just the components I want and not the entire page.
>
> This is a big issue in my opinion, refer to woodstock to icefaces migration
> forum on icefaces site to read about it.
>
> I really hope some progress will be achieved soon
>
> thanks Mauro
> --
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