flexcoders stats and charts (and full data download)

[Doug McCune]

Hey guys,

Last night I put together a post that details some of the stats for this
list:
http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/

The post also contains a download of the entire archive of all flexcoders
messages (up through last night). The file is a CSV file and contains the
sender name, subject, and date of every message ever posted to the list. It
contains 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's in MS
Access format) that contains all the full-text of the messages, but that
file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting it for download, but if someone has some
ideas about what to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.

I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about whether the list
was declining in traffic, whether it should be split up, yadda yadda. I
finally got around to getting a really good complete dataset to play with.
Hope you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the list) know if
you do anything cool with the data yourself.

Doug

[Ek0]

Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)

2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...>

>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Last night I put together a post that details some of the stats for this
> list:
> http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>
> The post also contains a download of the entire archive of all flexcoders
> messages (up through last night). The file is a CSV file and contains the
> sender name, subject, and date of every message ever posted to the list. It
> contains 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's in MS
> Access format) that contains all the full-text of the messages, but that
> file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting it for download, but if someone has some
> ideas about what to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>
> I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about whether the list
> was declining in traffic, whether it should be split up, yadda yadda. I
> finally got around to getting a really good complete dataset to play with.
> Hope you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the list) know if
> you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>
> Doug
>  
>

[Doug McCune]

And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware, working on
it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server crashed" :P

Doug

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...> wrote:

>
>
> Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
>
> 2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...>
>
>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Last night I put together a post that details some of the stats for this
>> list:
>> http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>>
>> The post also contains a download of the entire archive of all flexcoders
>> messages (up through last night). The file is a CSV file and contains the
>> sender name, subject, and date of every message ever posted to the list. It
>> contains 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's in MS
>> Access format) that contains all the full-text of the messages, but that
>> file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting it for download, but if someone has some
>> ideas about what to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>>
>> I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about whether the
>> list was declining in traffic, whether it should be split up, yadda yadda. I
>> finally got around to getting a really good complete dataset to play with.
>> Hope you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the list) know if
>> you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>
>  
>

[Doug McCune]

Seems to be back up, god I hate servers, but I guess that's why I do
front-end development.

BTW, I'm going to be investigating getting a full dataset of the Adobe Flex
forums too and will likely do some similar visualizations once I figure out
how to get the data. Looks like the forum software Adobe uses (from Jive)
has webservice access and I should be able to write something to pull all
the data. If anyone has any experience with this, drop me a line.

Doug

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Doug McCune <doug@...> wrote:

> And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware, working on
> it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server crashed" :P
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
>>
>> 2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Last night I put together a post that details some of the stats for this
>>> list:
>>> http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>>>
>>> The post also contains a download of the entire archive of all flexcoders
>>> messages (up through last night). The file is a CSV file and contains the
>>> sender name, subject, and date of every message ever posted to the list. It
>>> contains 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's in MS
>>> Access format) that contains all the full-text of the messages, but that
>>> file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting it for download, but if someone has some
>>> ideas about what to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>>>
>>> I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about whether the
>>> list was declining in traffic, whether it should be split up, yadda yadda. I
>>> finally got around to getting a really good complete dataset to play with.
>>> Hope you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the list) know if
>>> you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

[John3210]

Very interesting stats., and it's hat's off to Tom Chiverton and Tracy
Spratt.
Thank you to them.

How about a star burst to show which topics led to the most subsequent
activity?

John

Doug McCune wrote:

>
>
> Seems to be back up, god I hate servers, but I guess that's why I do
> front-end development.
>
> BTW, I'm going to be investigating getting a full dataset of the Adobe
> Flex forums too and will likely do some similar visualizations once I
> figure out how to get the data. Looks like the forum software Adobe
> uses (from Jive) has webservice access and I should be able to write
> something to pull all the data. If anyone has any experience with
> this, drop me a line.
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Doug McCune <doug@...
> <mailto:doug@...>> wrote:
>
>     And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware,
>     working on it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server
>     crashed" :P
>
>     Doug
>
>
>     On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...
>     <mailto:primo411@...>> wrote:
>
>          
>
>         Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
>
>         2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...
>         <mailto:doug@...>>
>
>              
>
>             Hey guys,
>
>             Last night I put together a post that details some of the
>             stats for this list:
>             http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>
>             The post also contains a download of the entire archive of
>             all flexcoders messages (up through last night). The file
>             is a CSV file and contains the sender name, subject, and
>             date of every message ever posted to the list. It contains
>             148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's
>             in MS Access format) that contains all the full-text of
>             the messages, but that file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting
>             it for download, but if someone has some ideas about what
>             to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>
>             I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about
>             whether the list was declining in traffic, whether it
>             should be split up, yadda yadda. I finally got around to
>             getting a really good complete dataset to play with. Hope
>             you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the
>             list) know if you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>
>             Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[John3210]

And an specially big thank you to Alex Harui and Matt Chotin from Adobe
for their Herculean work rate.

John

Doug McCune wrote:

>
>
> Seems to be back up, god I hate servers, but I guess that's why I do
> front-end development.
>
> BTW, I'm going to be investigating getting a full dataset of the Adobe
> Flex forums too and will likely do some similar visualizations once I
> figure out how to get the data. Looks like the forum software Adobe
> uses (from Jive) has webservice access and I should be able to write
> something to pull all the data. If anyone has any experience with
> this, drop me a line.
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Doug McCune <doug@...
> <mailto:doug@...>> wrote:
>
>     And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware,
>     working on it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server
>     crashed" :P
>
>     Doug
>
>
>     On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...
>     <mailto:primo411@...>> wrote:
>
>          
>
>         Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
>
>         2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...
>         <mailto:doug@...>>
>
>              
>
>             Hey guys,
>
>             Last night I put together a post that details some of the
>             stats for this list:
>             http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>
>             The post also contains a download of the entire archive of
>             all flexcoders messages (up through last night). The file
>             is a CSV file and contains the sender name, subject, and
>             date of every message ever posted to the list. It contains
>             148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's
>             in MS Access format) that contains all the full-text of
>             the messages, but that file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting
>             it for download, but if someone has some ideas about what
>             to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>
>             I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about
>             whether the list was declining in traffic, whether it
>             should be split up, yadda yadda. I finally got around to
>             getting a really good complete dataset to play with. Hope
>             you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the
>             list) know if you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>
>             Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Doug McCune]

I've got the numbers for longest threads too, just didn't include those
stats in the post. Here are the top 5 threads for all time and for the past
year.

For all time:
Splitting FlexCoders into smaller, focused groups - 137 messages
Will Microsofts new Silverlight Player kill our beloved Flex? - 129 messages
Flex 1.5 price - 103 messages
Choice of backend systems - 82 messages
SEO Compatibility - 66 messages

For only 2009:
Flex Builder on Linux being scrapped - 38 messages
New Adobe Forums coming! - 37 messages
Question about a Flex component - 34 messages
Roles Based UI - 33 messages
Ribbon in FLEX - 30 messages

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:02 AM, John McCormack <john@...> wrote:

>
>
> Very interesting stats., and it's hat's off to Tom Chiverton and Tracy
> Spratt.
> Thank you to them.
>
> How about a star burst to show which topics led to the most subsequent
> activity?
>
> John
>
>
> Doug McCune wrote:
> >
> >
> > Seems to be back up, god I hate servers, but I guess that's why I do
> > front-end development.
> >
> > BTW, I'm going to be investigating getting a full dataset of the Adobe
> > Flex forums too and will likely do some similar visualizations once I
> > figure out how to get the data. Looks like the forum software Adobe
> > uses (from Jive) has webservice access and I should be able to write
> > something to pull all the data. If anyone has any experience with
> > this, drop me a line.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Doug McCune <doug@...<doug%40dougmccune.com>
> > <mailto:doug@... <doug%40dougmccune.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware,
> > working on it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server
> > crashed" :P
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...<primo411%40gmail.com>
> > <mailto:primo411@... <primo411%40gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
> >
> > 2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@... <doug%40dougmccune.com>
> > <mailto:doug@... <doug%40dougmccune.com>>>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Last night I put together a post that details some of the
> > stats for this list:
> >
> http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
> >
> > The post also contains a download of the entire archive of
> > all flexcoders messages (up through last night). The file
> > is a CSV file and contains the sender name, subject, and
> > date of every message ever posted to the list. It contains
> > 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's
> > in MS Access format) that contains all the full-text of
> > the messages, but that file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting
> > it for download, but if someone has some ideas about what
> > to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
> >
> > I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about
> > whether the list was declining in traffic, whether it
> > should be split up, yadda yadda. I finally got around to
> > getting a really good complete dataset to play with. Hope
> > you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the
> > list) know if you do anything cool with the data yourself.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>

[John3210]

Interesting.
I wonder if the threads are getting shorter - a sign of the times, perhaps.

I was thinking it might be useful to know about all the ones that people
have appended the tag 'SOLVED'.
I wonder if someone at Adobe might pick this up and create a searchable
database of solutions.
Imagine clicking on keywords and having the threads highlighted, with a
solution tagged on the end.
A suitable AIR project perhaps, using the 11meg downloaded message list.
In my situation, just to keep control, I delete earlier months of
messages once I get over 4000.
It would be nice to be able to find all those wise words about a topic
of concern.

John

Doug McCune wrote:

>
>
> I've got the numbers for longest threads too, just didn't include
> those stats in the post. Here are the top 5 threads for all time and
> for the past year.
>
> For all time:
> Splitting FlexCoders into smaller, focused groups - 137 messages
> Will Microsofts new Silverlight Player kill our beloved Flex? - 129
> messages
> Flex 1.5 price - 103 messages
> Choice of backend systems - 82 messages
> SEO Compatibility - 66 messages
>
> For only 2009:
> Flex Builder on Linux being scrapped - 38 messages
> New Adobe Forums coming! - 37 messages
> Question about a Flex component - 34 messages
> Roles Based UI - 33 messages
> Ribbon in FLEX - 30 messages
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:02 AM, John McCormack <john@...
> <mailto:john@...>> wrote:
>
>      
>
>     Very interesting stats., and it's hat's off to Tom Chiverton and
>     Tracy
>     Spratt.
>     Thank you to them.
>
>     How about a star burst to show which topics led to the most
>     subsequent
>     activity?
>
>     John
>
>
>
>     Doug McCune wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Seems to be back up, god I hate servers, but I guess that's why
>     I do
>     > front-end development.
>     >
>     > BTW, I'm going to be investigating getting a full dataset of the
>     Adobe
>     > Flex forums too and will likely do some similar visualizations
>     once I
>     > figure out how to get the data. Looks like the forum software Adobe
>     > uses (from Jive) has webservice access and I should be able to
>     write
>     > something to pull all the data. If anyone has any experience with
>     > this, drop me a line.
>     >
>     > Doug
>     >
>     > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Doug McCune <doug@...
>     <mailto:doug%40dougmccune.com>
>     > <mailto:doug@... <mailto:doug%40dougmccune.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     > And of course instantly my server decides to go down. I'm aware,
>     > working on it. Sorry for the "check this out, oh wait, server
>     > crashed" :P
>     >
>     > Doug
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:04 AM, primo411 <primo411@...
>     <mailto:primo411%40gmail.com>
>     > <mailto:primo411@... <mailto:primo411%40gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Wow ! The UI looks really nice :)
>     >
>     > 2009/11/3 Doug McCune <doug@...
>     <mailto:doug%40dougmccune.com>
>     > <mailto:doug@... <mailto:doug%40dougmccune.com>>>
>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Hey guys,
>     >
>     > Last night I put together a post that details some of the
>     > stats for this list:
>     >
>     http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>     >
>     > The post also contains a download of the entire archive of
>     > all flexcoders messages (up through last night). The file
>     > is a CSV file and contains the sender name, subject, and
>     > date of every message ever posted to the list. It contains
>     > 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's
>     > in MS Access format) that contains all the full-text of
>     > the messages, but that file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting
>     > it for download, but if someone has some ideas about what
>     > to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>     >
>     > I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about
>     > whether the list was declining in traffic, whether it
>     > should be split up, yadda yadda. I finally got around to
>     > getting a really good complete dataset to play with. Hope
>     > you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the
>     > list) know if you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>     >
>     > Doug
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>
>
>

[Gregor Kiddie]

9th in 2009? I didn't think I'd posted that much! (Number 2 in the Brit
list though, I demand a deathmatch with Tom!)

I wonder how many of those posts were getting into arguments with Alex
and Matt? Too many I guess.

Still, lists like this always bring out the competitive in me. I wonder,
do "+1" posts count? Time to piggy back all of Alex's with "I approve
this answer" posts, or to auto generate an answer to any new thread
containing the words "module", "garbage", or "renderer" with the reply
"check Alex's blog".

Actually that's not a bad idea...

 

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[reflexactions]

There is a 3 to 1 volume in favor of the adobe forums, now I know why its hard to get an answer to questions here these days.

I guess everything has its day, and life on the net is short, flexcoders replaced my favorite AS list a few years back and now its time to move on again.
With the mailing list option on the adobe forums they become usable, compared to the painfull old software they used.

--- In flexcoders@..., Doug McCune <doug@...> wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> Last night I put together a post that details some of the stats for this
> list:
> http://dougmccune.com/blog/2009/11/03/flexcoders-mailing-list-stats-pretty-graphs-full-dataset/
>
> The post also contains a download of the entire archive of all flexcoders
> messages (up through last night). The file is a CSV file and contains the
> sender name, subject, and date of every message ever posted to the list. It
> contains 148,826 posts. I also have the full database archive (it's in MS
> Access format) that contains all the full-text of the messages, but that
> file is 1.5 gigs so I'm not posting it for download, but if someone has some
> ideas about what to do with it I can probably get it to you somehow.
>
> I know we had a long discussion back a long time ago about whether the list
> was declining in traffic, whether it should be split up, yadda yadda. I
> finally got around to getting a really good complete dataset to play with.
> Hope you enjoy the post and let me (and the rest of us on the list) know if
> you do anything cool with the data yourself.
>
> Doug
>

[mslinn]

I like email digests instead of getting bazillions of email messages.  The jive forums on Adobe.com do not have that feature, so I don't subscribe.  I'm not a fan of RSS either - I prefer that email digests be pushed to me so I can review offline instead of polling while online.

Mike

[Amy-28]

--- In flexcoders@..., "reflexactions" <reflexactions@...> wrote:
>
> There is a 3 to 1 volume in favor of the adobe forums, now I know why its hard to get an answer to questions here these days.
>
> I guess everything has its day, and life on the net is short, flexcoders replaced my favorite AS list a few years back and now its time to move on again.
> With the mailing list option on the adobe forums they become usable, compared to the painfull old software they used.

I'm not sure what you mean.  NNTP clients have always been fabulous for accessing newsgroups...?