forcing ports to use Perl 5.8.8

[rihad]

Hello, I need to install security/p5-Digest-HMAC from the ports, but
_only_ with the currently installed Perl 5.8.8, without it being
upgraded to 5.8.9 as a dependency (because some other software dumps
core with Perl 5.8.9). How can I as a user cleanly tell the system to
stay with 5.8.8 and still be able to upgrade any other port, even all of
them? I have in /etc/make.conf:

PERL_VER=5.8.8
PERL_VERSION=5.8.8

but this isn't enough.
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk has several knobs, which ones can I set in
/etc/make.conf to achieve what I need (stay with perl 5.8.8)?

TIA
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[Matthew Seaman-2]

rihad wrote:

> Hello, I need to install security/p5-Digest-HMAC from the ports, but
> _only_ with the currently installed Perl 5.8.8, without it being
> upgraded to 5.8.9 as a dependency (because some other software dumps
> core with Perl 5.8.9). How can I as a user cleanly tell the system to
> stay with 5.8.8 and still be able to upgrade any other port, even all of
> them? I have in /etc/make.conf:
>
> PERL_VER=5.8.8
> PERL_VERSION=5.8.8
>
> but this isn't enough.
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk has several knobs, which ones can I set in
> /etc/make.conf to achieve what I need (stay with perl 5.8.8)?

Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will adapt to
whatever version is installed.  

If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If you use portmaster(1), create a file
+IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/

        Cheers,

        Matthew

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[rihad]

Matthew Seaman wrote:

> rihad wrote:
>> Hello, I need to install security/p5-Digest-HMAC from the ports, but
>> _only_ with the currently installed Perl 5.8.8, without it being
>> upgraded to 5.8.9 as a dependency (because some other software dumps
>> core with Perl 5.8.9). How can I as a user cleanly tell the system to
>> stay with 5.8.8 and still be able to upgrade any other port, even all
>> of them? I have in /etc/make.conf:
>>
>> PERL_VER=5.8.8
>> PERL_VERSION=5.8.8
>>
>> but this isn't enough.
>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk has several knobs, which ones can I set in
>> /etc/make.conf to achieve what I need (stay with perl 5.8.8)?
>
> Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will adapt to
> whatever version is installed.
> If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in
> /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If you use portmaster(1), create a file
> +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/

Yes, I'm using portmaster. Should /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8_1/+IGNOREME be
an empty file?

Thank you!
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[rihad]

rihad wrote:

> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> rihad wrote:
>>> Hello, I need to install security/p5-Digest-HMAC from the ports, but
>>> _only_ with the currently installed Perl 5.8.8, without it being
>>> upgraded to 5.8.9 as a dependency (because some other software dumps
>>> core with Perl 5.8.9). How can I as a user cleanly tell the system to
>>> stay with 5.8.8 and still be able to upgrade any other port, even all
>>> of them? I have in /etc/make.conf:
>>>
>>> PERL_VER=5.8.8
>>> PERL_VERSION=5.8.8
>>>
>>> but this isn't enough.
>>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk has several knobs, which ones can I set in
>>> /etc/make.conf to achieve what I need (stay with perl 5.8.8)?
>>
>> Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will
>> adapt to
>> whatever version is installed. If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add
>> 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If
>> you use portmaster(1), create a file
>> +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/
>
> Yes, I'm using portmaster. Should /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8_1/+IGNOREME be
> an empty file?
>

portmaster manual says:
      /var/db/pkg/*/+IGNOREME
            If this file exists, several things will happen:

            1. The port will be ignored for all purposes, including
                dependency updates, if there is no directory for it in
                /usr/ports, and there is no entry for it in
/usr/ports/MOVED.

I don't understand the if part. There _is_ a directory for lang/perl5.8
in ports, so the port _won't_ be ignored?

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[Matthew Seaman-2]

rihad wrote:
> rihad wrote:
>> Matthew Seaman wrote:

>>> Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will
>>> adapt to
>>> whatever version is installed. If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add
>>> 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If
>>> you use portmaster(1), create a file
>>> +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/

> Yes, I'm using portmaster. Should /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8_1/+IGNOREME
> be an empty file?

Yes.

> portmaster manual says:
>      /var/db/pkg/*/+IGNOREME
>            If this file exists, several things will happen:
>
>            1. The port will be ignored for all purposes, including
>                dependency updates, if there is no directory for it in
>                /usr/ports, and there is no entry for it in
> /usr/ports/MOVED.
>
> I don't understand the if part. There _is_ a directory for lang/perl5.8
> in ports, so the port _won't_ be ignored?

I don't understand it either.  Perhaps that should read "... dependency
updates, *as* if there is no directory for it in..."?  Otherwise that
bit of text effectively says that +IGNOREME has no effect for ports that
either exist currently in the ports tree, or that used to and that have an
entry in MOVED.  Which would make +IGNOREME pretty useless most of the
time.

        Cheers,

        Matthew

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[rihad]

Matthew Seaman wrote:

> rihad wrote:
>> rihad wrote:
>>> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>
>>>> Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will
>>>> adapt to
>>>> whatever version is installed. If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add
>>>> 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If
>>>> you use portmaster(1), create a file
>>>> +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/
>
>> Yes, I'm using portmaster. Should /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8_1/+IGNOREME
>> be an empty file?
>
> Yes.
>
>> portmaster manual says:
>>      /var/db/pkg/*/+IGNOREME
>>            If this file exists, several things will happen:
>>
>>            1. The port will be ignored for all purposes, including
>>                dependency updates, if there is no directory for it in
>>                /usr/ports, and there is no entry for it in
>> /usr/ports/MOVED.
>>

Now I understand it: the items separated by comma are ANDed together, so
it finally makes sense ;-)
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[Doug Barton]

rihad wrote:

> rihad wrote:
>> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>> rihad wrote:
>>>> Hello, I need to install security/p5-Digest-HMAC from the ports, but
>>>> _only_ with the currently installed Perl 5.8.8, without it being
>>>> upgraded to 5.8.9 as a dependency (because some other software dumps
>>>> core with Perl 5.8.9). How can I as a user cleanly tell the system
>>>> to stay with 5.8.8 and still be able to upgrade any other port, even
>>>> all of them? I have in /etc/make.conf:
>>>>
>>>> PERL_VER=5.8.8
>>>> PERL_VERSION=5.8.8
>>>>
>>>> but this isn't enough.
>>>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk has several knobs, which ones can I set in
>>>> /etc/make.conf to achieve what I need (stay with perl 5.8.8)?
>>>
>>> Basically, just don't upgrade perl.  The various perl modules will
>>> adapt to
>>> whatever version is installed. If you use portupgrade(1) et al, add
>>> 'perl-*' to the HOLD_PKGS array in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. If
>>> you use portmaster(1), create a file
>>> +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8/
>>
>> Yes, I'm using portmaster. Should /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.8_1/+IGNOREME
>> be an empty file?

Sure. It doesn't matter if there is anything/nothing in the file,
portmaster just tests for its existence.

> portmaster manual says:
>      /var/db/pkg/*/+IGNOREME
>            If this file exists, several things will happen:
>
>            1. The port will be ignored for all purposes, including
>                dependency updates, if there is no directory for it in
>                /usr/ports, and there is no entry for it in
> /usr/ports/MOVED.
>
> I don't understand the if part. There _is_ a directory for lang/perl5.8
> in ports, so the port _won't_ be ignored?

Yeah, looking at that now it doesn't make a lot of sense. :)  Is this
more clear:

The port will be ignored for all purposes. This includes dependency
updates even if there is no directory for the port in /usr/ports and
there is no entry for it in /usr/ports/MOVED.


Doug

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