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ipfw dynamic pipes

2009-11-23T23:19:31Z

hello gentlemen,

does anybody know how to make dynamic pipes for 2 directions - in/out ?

usually i do:
ipfw pipe 1 config bw 1Mbit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff
ipfw pipe 2 config bw 1Mbit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff
then
ipfw add 10 pipe 1 all from $mynet to any via $if out
ipfw add 11 pipe 2 all from any to $mynet via $if in

in this case each ip get two 1Mbit/s pipes - one in and one out

But now i need to create one pipe for in and out. E.g each ip should use
same pipe for in/out.
But i`m stuck how to do this dynamic way.

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2009-11-23T02:54:42Z

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FreeBSD jails in the Asia region

2009-11-15T10:27:28Z

Hello,

I am trying to find a hosting provider that sells FreeBSD jails in the Asia
region. I would prefer both v4 and v6 connectivity, but that is not a
requirement. I need full root access to the jail, similar to what
JohnCompanies and RootBSD are offering, only in Asia. Any recommendations ?

I would prefer a jail since they are usually cheaper than a full-blown
server, but if anyone can recommend affordable alternatives I am listening.
I would prefer a recent FreeBSD version, like 7.x.

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,

Tomas

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Re: That is the most heavy-loaded FreeBSD-router at your network?

2009-11-09T04:01:15Z

В Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:24:54 +0300
Dennis Yusupoff <dyr@...> пишет:

> Good day all!
>
> I'm looking for information what is the most pps/Mbits-powerful
> FreeBSD-based routers used in real world in ISP networks.
>
> For example, we have regular traffic up to 60kpps and 200MBits, with
> confirmed tests at 300kpps and 600Mbits and router with ng_netflow,
> dummynet and ipfw + pf (Bi-)NAT.
> There are some examples at russian forum http://forum.nag.ru about
> 1.3Mpps (yep, MILLION and dot 3 packets per second).
> How much have you got?
> That is a hardware?
> Did you try to tune sysctl?
>
>

120kpps, 650Mbit/s
pf NAT

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5130 @ 2.00GHz (1997.01-MHz
K8-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
Features2=0x4e33d<SSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA>
AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
Cores per package: 2
usable memory = 2139934720 (2040 MB)
avail memory = 2063695872 (1968 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <PTLTD APIC >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7

bge0: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev.
0x4101> mem 0xdc200000-0xdc20ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci19
miibus0: <MII bus> on bge0
brgphy0: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus0
brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:18:fe:fa:52:7e
bge0: [ITHREAD]
pcib11: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.1 on pci0
pci20: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib11
bge1: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev.
0x4101> mem 0xdc300000-0xdc30ffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci20
miibus1: <MII bus> on bge1
brgphy1: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus1
brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:18:fe:fa:52:7f
bge1: [ITHREAD]

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Re: web hosting

2009-11-06T14:48:44Z

I'd second the rootbsd recommendation if you are up for running it
yourself on a VPS. I do webhosting for my clients on my own servers
and use the rootbsd box as a hot failover. nothing but good things to
say about them.

but like you said there's thousands of managed web hosting companies
out there. googling for web hosting reviews might help narrow the
selection.

good luck,

-Dan

Sent from mobile device

On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:24 PM, "Eric W. Bates" <ericx@...> wrote:

> I've been really happy at RootBSD (http://rootbsd.com/). They don't
> do webhosting per se; but they give you a VM with your favorite
> flavor of BSD installed. Not too expensive. I don't think I've
> waited more than 30 minutes from the time I put in a ticket until
> they've dealt with it. They're even making custom bgp announcements
> for me.
>
> Lisa Casey wrote:
>> Hi,
>> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to
>> outsource pretty much everything. We've got our radius
>> authentication and email outsourced, the only thing left is our web
>> hosting. We have four domains that we currently provide web hosting
>> for and I need to find a cheap reliable hosting company to move
>> these to. I have, of course, google web hosting but there's
>> thousands of them out there. I thought folks on this list might
>> have some suggestions. Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.
>> Lisa
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Re: web hosting

2009-11-06T10:24:30Z

I've been really happy at RootBSD (http://rootbsd.com/). They don't do
webhosting per se; but they give you a VM with your favorite flavor of
BSD installed. Not too expensive. I don't think I've waited more than 30
minutes from the time I put in a ticket until they've dealt with it.
They're even making custom bgp announcements for me.

Lisa Casey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to outsource pretty much everything. We've got our radius authentication and email outsourced, the only thing left is our web hosting. We have four domains that we currently provide web hosting for and I need to find a cheap reliable hosting company to move these to. I have, of course, google web hosting but there's thousands of them out there. I thought folks on this list might have some suggestions.
>
> Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.
>
> Lisa
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Re: web hosting

2009-11-06T07:58:27Z

Lisa Casey writes:

> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to outsource
> pretty much everything. We've got our radius authentication and email

Check http://hub.org
You get a VM of your own.
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That is the most heavy-loaded FreeBSD-router at your network?

2009-11-06T06:24:54Z

Good day all!

I'm looking for information what is the most pps/Mbits-powerful
FreeBSD-based routers used in real world in ISP networks.

For example, we have regular traffic up to 60kpps and 200MBits, with
confirmed tests at 300kpps and 600Mbits and router with ng_netflow,
dummynet and ipfw + pf (Bi-)NAT.
There are some examples at russian forum http://forum.nag.ru about
1.3Mpps (yep, MILLION and dot 3 packets per second).
How much have you got?
That is a hardware?
Did you try to tune sysctl?

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Raisin Eyebrows: Is Dried Fruit Good for Your Teeth?

2009-11-06T04:29:48Z

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Raisin Eyebrows: Is Dried Fruit Good for Your Teeth?

2009-11-06T03:30:50Z

Greetings from Dr. Josh Leute!

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Do you remember how disappointed you were as a kid when some concerned adult dared put raisins in your Halloween bucket? Your mother was probably relieved, convinced they would be far better for you and your pearly whites than the rest of the junk food you’d strung out across the living room floor. Ask a pediatric dentist, however, and you might get a different story.

It’s true that there are a number of benefits to eating raisins. They’re low in fat and cholesterol, and boast plenty of fiber, calcium and potassium. Unfortunately, they’re also both sticky and high in sugar, putting them high on the list of foods that can cause cavities. Some health professionals lump them in with all the other typical junk foods kids eat. Don’t worry, raisins aren’t the only foods once thought healthy that can contribute to tooth decay. Go ahead and add other dried fruit, sweetened cereals and even fruit juices to the list.

Don’t chuck raisins out just yet, however. Raisins were recently found to contain phytochemicals, which are known to inhibit the growth of bacteria commonly linked to cavities. Note that this study was conducted in a lab, and no study has even been done to show that cavities are either more or less likely to find kids that eat raisins.

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Re: web hosting

2009-11-05T19:07:56Z

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Lisa Casey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to outsource
> pretty much everything. We've got our radius authentication and email
> outsourced, the only thing left is our web hosting. We have four domains
> that we currently provide web hosting for and I need to find a cheap
> reliable hosting company to move these to. I have, of course, google web
> hosting but there's thousands of them out there. I thought folks on this
> list might have some suggestions.

Another FreeBSD shop that's been around a long time is Pair.com. They are
a bit pricey, but they have their own datacenter and network and are not
just some reseller.

I do pity anyone shopping for cheap hosting these days, there are simply
too many options...

Charles

> Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.
>
> Lisa
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Re: web hosting

2009-11-05T13:00:41Z

Hi Lisa cc ISP list + Norbert & Michael,

> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to
> outsource pretty much everything. We've got our radius authentication
> and email outsourced, the only thing left is our web hosting. We
> have four domains that we currently provide web hosting for and I
> need to find a cheap reliable hosting company to move these to. I
> have, of course, google web hosting but there's thousands of them
> out there. I thought folks on this list might have some suggestions.
>
> Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.

Rather than thousands of ISPs that google might find, that might
not be especially FreeBSD based, a smaller list is here:
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

One friend of mine np@... cc'd is at a small so very flexible
pretty much entirely FreeBSD based ISP.

Another friend mwe@... also cc'd is at another ISP, not sure
what percentage FreeBSD, but more bandwidth if you've heavier demand.

I guess all ISPs will ask you similar questions re. what you need
in way of steady & max traffic load, human support, max %
outage per month, 2nd site offset geographic mirroring ?, backup +
slave, or cluster, what extras like php mysql whatever else, inc
which apache Rev. & a hint of just roughly what ballpark `cheap'
falls in, ie roughly how many zeros in what currency per month you'r
hoping to pay ?

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Re: web hosting

2009-11-05T10:26:39Z

Hello Lisa,

Good day! You can check out Fluidhosting.com. They offer FreeBSD based
webhosting and technical support is fantastic. 5/5! Very reliable,
prices are reasonable and the owner and his staff are pretty much
hands on on everything. Check them out. You can actually talk to their
staff through an online chat system on their site and can ask and
inquire. Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Kahlil

On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Lisa Casey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to
> outsource pretty much everything. We've got our radius
> authentication and email outsourced, the only thing left is our web
> hosting. We have four domains that we currently provide web hosting
> for and I need to find a cheap reliable hosting company to move
> these to. I have, of course, google web hosting but there's
> thousands of them out there. I thought folks on this list might have
> some suggestions.
>
> Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.
>
> Lisa
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web hosting

2009-11-05T09:35:02Z

Hi,

We have been running an ISP for 15 years and have decided to outsource pretty much everything. We've got our radius authentication and email outsourced, the only thing left is our web hosting. We have four domains that we currently provide web hosting for and I need to find a cheap reliable hosting company to move these to. I have, of course, google web hosting but there's thousands of them out there. I thought folks on this list might have some suggestions.

Thanks, I appreciate any suggestions/advise.

Lisa
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[#WGD-518553]: {Filename?} Re: data

2009-11-05T05:51:42Z

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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-28T00:33:22Z

Miroslav Lachman ha scritto:
> It is not true. Jail command does not requires compilation, nor
> exactly same version. I am running 6.x version jail on system with 7.2
> and you can run 32bit (i386) jail on 64bit (amd64) system.
I did not know, and this is very useful to me also. I supposed, as the
jail kernel is a "fake" kernel, both systems should have the same
version, but if I can mix it's a great opportunity.

> The `jail` command is there just for starting the jail, not for
> building it. The jail even does not need to be a full installed system!
> There are too many different scenarios with jails, that there can not
> be "one command to satisfy them all".
> It is up to administrator to prepare the best environment for his/her
> needs.
>
> If you need the full copy of the base system, you can do it really
> easily (by tar as was suggested by Vincet Hoffman or dump & restore),
> and if you do it for each jail, you loose the benefits of shared
> read-only base directory (you will need more disk space and more memory).
>
> If you do not want to spend some time by compilation, you can install
> the jail from installation media you already have from system install.
>
> cd /some/media/7.2-RELEASE/base
> mkdir /path/to/myjail
> setenv DESTDIR /path/to/myjail
> sh install.sh
>
> That's all! It is too simple in contrast to source build or manually
> copy something from base.
>

Thanks! In this way it is a lot more easier to setup and/or customize.

Tonino

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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T12:32:01Z

Hi,

This is how I perform binary updates and installation of jails. I used
a file called install.cfg to hold my sysinstall variables.

### install.cfg ###
installVarDefaults
releaseName=7.2-RELEASE
_ftpPath=
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/

mediaSetFTP
dists=base man
distSetCustom
installRoot=/srv/jails/example.domain.tld/root
installCommit
################

# Install
mkdir -p /srv/jails/example.domain.tld/root
sysinstall configFile=/root/install.cfg loadConfig

freebsd-update works within the jail to update patches. For migrating
point releases (7.1 to 7.2) after updating the host OS I use the
commands below.

env UNAME_r=7.1-RELEASE-p5 freebsd-update -b /srv/jails/
example.domain.tld/root -r 7.2-RELEASE upgrade
freebsd-update -b /srv/jails/example.domain.tld/root install
/etc/rc.d/jail restart <jail>
freebsd-update -b /srv/jails/example.domain.tld/root install

Works great in my environment.

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On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:

> Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>
>> Miroslav Lachman ha scritto:
> [...]
>>> You are not the first one with this idea. You can easily use
>>> nullfs mount of directories from base system, but people mostly
>>> prefer independent directory with jail install shared by many jails.
>>>
>>> And sometimes somebody needs jails with modified binaries, so it
>>> is not possible to share theme with base system in all cases.
>>>
>>> There are many ways to get jails running without sources, it is up
>>> to you to choose one.
>
> [...]
>
>> I have nothing against shared dirs, but my question is this: why
>> the basic jail creation command requires compilation? Given the
>> fact jail must have exactly the same version of base system, why
>> the base create command dos not simply copy the existing binaries?
>> It would avoid local source, remote packages, etc...
>
> It is not true. Jail command does not requires compilation, nor
> exactly same version. I am running 6.x version jail on system with
> 7.2 and you can run 32bit (i386) jail on 64bit (amd64) system.
> The `jail` command is there just for starting the jail, not for
> building it. The jail even does not need to be a full installed
> system!
> There are too many different scenarios with jails, that there can
> not be "one command to satisfy them all".
> It is up to administrator to prepare the best environment for his/
> her needs.
>
> If you need the full copy of the base system, you can do it really
> easily (by tar as was suggested by Vincet Hoffman or dump &
> restore), and if you do it for each jail, you loose the benefits of
> shared read-only base directory (you will need more disk space and
> more memory).
>
> If you do not want to spend some time by compilation, you can
> install the jail from installation media you already have from
> system install.
>
> cd /some/media/7.2-RELEASE/base
> mkdir /path/to/myjail
> setenv DESTDIR /path/to/myjail
> sh install.sh
>
> That's all! It is too simple in contrast to source build or manually
> copy something from base.
>
> If you are using ZFS, you can use snapshots and clones...
>
> And many more scenarios exist.
>
> I am CCing freebsd-jail@, it is more appropriate list to contionue.
>
> Miroslav Lachman
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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T11:41:29Z

Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:

> Miroslav Lachman ha scritto:
[...]
>> You are not the first one with this idea. You can easily use nullfs
>> mount of directories from base system, but people mostly prefer
>> independent directory with jail install shared by many jails.
>>
>> And sometimes somebody needs jails with modified binaries, so it is
>> not possible to share theme with base system in all cases.
>>
>> There are many ways to get jails running without sources, it is up to
>> you to choose one.

[...]

> I have nothing against shared dirs, but my question is this: why the
> basic jail creation command requires compilation? Given the fact jail
> must have exactly the same version of base system, why the base create
> command dos not simply copy the existing binaries? It would avoid local
> source, remote packages, etc...

It is not true. Jail command does not requires compilation, nor exactly
same version. I am running 6.x version jail on system with 7.2 and you
can run 32bit (i386) jail on 64bit (amd64) system.
The `jail` command is there just for starting the jail, not for building
it. The jail even does not need to be a full installed system!
There are too many different scenarios with jails, that there can not be
"one command to satisfy them all".
It is up to administrator to prepare the best environment for his/her needs.

If you need the full copy of the base system, you can do it really
easily (by tar as was suggested by Vincet Hoffman or dump & restore),
and if you do it for each jail, you loose the benefits of shared
read-only base directory (you will need more disk space and more memory).

If you do not want to spend some time by compilation, you can install
the jail from installation media you already have from system install.

cd /some/media/7.2-RELEASE/base
mkdir /path/to/myjail
setenv DESTDIR /path/to/myjail
sh install.sh

That's all! It is too simple in contrast to source build or manually
copy something from base.

If you are using ZFS, you can use snapshots and clones...

And many more scenarios exist.

I am CCing freebsd-jail@, it is more appropriate list to contionue.

Miroslav Lachman
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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T10:08:08Z

Miroslav Lachman ha scritto:

> Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>>
>> Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created
>> only starting from sources?
>> Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
>> binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it updated)?
>> Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?
>
> You are not the first one with this idea. You can easily use nullfs
> mount of directories from base system, but people mostly prefer
> independent directory with jail install shared by many jails.
>
> And sometimes somebody needs jails with modified binaries, so it is
> not possible to share theme with base system in all cases.
>
> There are many ways to get jails running without sources, it is up to
> you to choose one.
>
> Miroslav Lachman
>
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I have nothing against shared dirs, but my question is this: why the
basic jail creation command requires compilation? Given the fact jail
must have exactly the same version of base system, why the base create
command dos not simply copy the existing binaries? It would avoid local
source, remote packages, etc...

Regards,

Tonino

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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T09:53:20Z

Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I'm trying as much as possible to not install sources.
> I'm designing a general architecture with very small machines,
> smallest as possible, as I'd love to avoid sources (both locals and
> remote).
>
As i said, i'm not a regular user of jails so i may be missing
something, but I rather thought that was my point. Using the ezjails
framework, I didnt need the sources installed. ezjail is a shell script
so it doesnt install anything else (no dependancies.) It installed the
base jail using the binary install packages from a remote FTP server. It
minimises your disk usage afterwards by using nullfs for the base system
in each jail, and it lets you update the base jail using freebsd-update.
I now have 2 jails (basic, just the freebsd base system) using a total
of 140M, each additional jail will start off taking just 1.8M. Since on
my host system my freebsd-update database alone is 665M I can see this
system as a big win for diskspace not to mention the nice centralized
update for all the jails.

Back to your original question, you dont have to install a jail from
source, I see no reason you couldnt just copy the base system into a
directory and use it as a jail if you wanted.

In fact a very quick test shows that taring up an existing system then
untaring and editing rc.conf and fstab comes up as a working jail.
(working as in network works and i can enter it by running jexec $jailid
sh )

Vince

> Thanks,
> Tonino
>
> Vincent Hoffman ha scritto:
>> Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created only
>>>> starting from sources?
>>>> Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
>>>> binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it
>>>> updated)?
>>>> Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I dont tend to use jails but my understanding is that you can use the
>>> standard install to create a jail (based on info from
>>> http://pbraun.nethence.com/doc/sysutils_bsd/dragonfly-freebsd-jail.html)
>>>
>>>
>>> mkdir -p /var/jails/base
>>> sysinstall
>>> then,
>>> sysinstall > Custom > Options > Install Root > /var/jails/base
>>> sysinstall > Custom > Distributions > Minimal
>>> sysinstall > Custom > Media > File System > /cdrom (I just used ftp
>>> myself, this meant i had to change the release from 7.2-RELEASE-p4 to
>>> 7.2-RELEASE in options)
>>> sysinstall > Custom > Commit
>>> [Visit the general configuration menu ?] > No
>>> Note. don't do the post-install, it would modify the host, not the
>>> guest.
>>>
>>> A quick
>>> jail /var/jails/base footest 10.0.0.2 /bin/sh
>>> gives me a shell in the jail so it seems to have worked, Time to add
>>> devfs etc i guess.
>>>
>>> >From here i'm going to have a look at sysutils/ezjail as that keeps
>>> coming up as a good way of managing jails, but I seem to have an
>>> working
>>> base system in /var/jails/base without compiling anything. I might have
>>> a play now and get updates etc working.
>>>
>>
>> Ok now I have played with sysutils/ezjail, forget the first part ;)
>> just "ezjail-admin install" will do a binary install for a base jail
>> from an ftp server.
>> you can use "ezjail-admin update -u" to update the base jail using
>> freebsd-update for some reason this isnt in the manpage.
>> Not exactly what you have asked for but close enough if you dont like
>> installing from source.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>
>>> regards,
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tonino
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T09:43:26Z

Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T07:50:23Z

Hi Vincent,

I'm trying as much as possible to not install sources.
I'm designing a general architecture with very small machines, smallest
as possible, as I'd love to avoid sources (both locals and remote).

Thanks,
Tonino

Vincent Hoffman ha scritto:

> Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created only
>>> starting from sources?
>>> Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
>>> binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it updated)?
>>> Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I dont tend to use jails but my understanding is that you can use the
>> standard install to create a jail (based on info from
>> http://pbraun.nethence.com/doc/sysutils_bsd/dragonfly-freebsd-jail.html)
>>
>> mkdir -p /var/jails/base
>> sysinstall
>> then,
>> sysinstall > Custom > Options > Install Root > /var/jails/base
>> sysinstall > Custom > Distributions > Minimal
>> sysinstall > Custom > Media > File System > /cdrom (I just used ftp
>> myself, this meant i had to change the release from 7.2-RELEASE-p4 to
>> 7.2-RELEASE in options)
>> sysinstall > Custom > Commit
>> [Visit the general configuration menu ?] > No
>> Note. don't do the post-install, it would modify the host, not the guest.
>>
>> A quick
>> jail /var/jails/base footest 10.0.0.2 /bin/sh
>> gives me a shell in the jail so it seems to have worked, Time to add
>> devfs etc i guess.
>>
>> >From here i'm going to have a look at sysutils/ezjail as that keeps
>> coming up as a good way of managing jails, but I seem to have an working
>> base system in /var/jails/base without compiling anything. I might have
>> a play now and get updates etc working.
>>
>>
>
> Ok now I have played with sysutils/ezjail, forget the first part ;)
> just "ezjail-admin install" will do a binary install for a base jail
> from an ftp server.
> you can use "ezjail-admin update -u" to update the base jail using
> freebsd-update for some reason this isnt in the manpage.
> Not exactly what you have asked for but close enough if you dont like
> installing from source.
>
>
> Vince
>
>
>> regards,
>> Vince
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tonino
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T07:41:36Z

Vincent Hoffman wrote:

> Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>
>> Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created only
>> starting from sources?
>> Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
>> binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it updated)?
>> Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?
>>
>>
> I dont tend to use jails but my understanding is that you can use the
> standard install to create a jail (based on info from
> http://pbraun.nethence.com/doc/sysutils_bsd/dragonfly-freebsd-jail.html)
>
> mkdir -p /var/jails/base
> sysinstall
> then,
> sysinstall > Custom > Options > Install Root > /var/jails/base
> sysinstall > Custom > Distributions > Minimal
> sysinstall > Custom > Media > File System > /cdrom (I just used ftp
> myself, this meant i had to change the release from 7.2-RELEASE-p4 to
> 7.2-RELEASE in options)
> sysinstall > Custom > Commit
> [Visit the general configuration menu ?] > No
> Note. don't do the post-install, it would modify the host, not the guest.
>
> A quick
> jail /var/jails/base footest 10.0.0.2 /bin/sh
> gives me a shell in the jail so it seems to have worked, Time to add
> devfs etc i guess.
>
> >From here i'm going to have a look at sysutils/ezjail as that keeps
> coming up as a good way of managing jails, but I seem to have an working
> base system in /var/jails/base without compiling anything. I might have
> a play now and get updates etc working.
>

Ok now I have played with sysutils/ezjail, forget the first part ;)
just "ezjail-admin install" will do a binary install for a base jail
from an ftp server.
you can use "ezjail-admin update -u" to update the base jail using
freebsd-update for some reason this isnt in the manpage.
Not exactly what you have asked for but close enough if you dont like
installing from source.

Vince

> regards,
> Vince
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tonino
>>
>>
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Re: Jails creation

2009-10-27T04:01:22Z

Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
>
> Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created only
> starting from sources?
> Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
> binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it updated)?
> Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?
>
I dont tend to use jails but my understanding is that you can use the
standard install to create a jail (based on info from
http://pbraun.nethence.com/doc/sysutils_bsd/dragonfly-freebsd-jail.html)

mkdir -p /var/jails/base
sysinstall
then,
sysinstall > Custom > Options > Install Root > /var/jails/base
sysinstall > Custom > Distributions > Minimal
sysinstall > Custom > Media > File System > /cdrom (I just used ftp
myself, this meant i had to change the release from 7.2-RELEASE-p4 to
7.2-RELEASE in options)
sysinstall > Custom > Commit
[Visit the general configuration menu ?] > No
Note. don't do the post-install, it would modify the host, not the guest.

A quick
jail /var/jails/base footest 10.0.0.2 /bin/sh
gives me a shell in the jail so it seems to have worked, Time to add
devfs etc i guess.

>From here i'm going to have a look at sysutils/ezjail as that keeps
coming up as a good way of managing jails, but I seem to have an working
base system in /var/jails/base without compiling anything. I might have
a play now and get updates etc working.

regards,
Vince
> Regards,
>
> Tonino
>

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Jails creation

2009-10-27T03:13:17Z

Is there any architectural reason for which jails must be created only
starting from sources?
Would not it be simpler to create a jail cloning the host environment
binaries (and then using the normal freebsd-update to keep it updated)?
Would it be possible to suggest a funded project with this goal?

Regards,

Tonino

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The Scariest Halloween Trend

2009-10-02T06:05:54Z

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The Scariest Halloween Trend

2009-10-02T05:03:04Z

Greetings from Dr. Josh Leute!

Sugar: The Scariest Halloween Trend

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Re: file/backup server

2009-10-01T07:15:45Z

try this http://www.ixsystems.com/

On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> Bakul Shah wrote:
>> Not sure what is the right group for this kind of query but
>> perhaps people on this group has had similar need. I'd like
>> to give freebsd guys a first shot hence a freebsd group.
>>
>> I am looking for a vendor who will supply a small
>> number of fileservers but mainly for backing up a few TB of
>> data (exact number not yet known). These will be used in
>> various sites. I am envisioning one or two zfs based system.
>> One is on all the time and provides some shared storage and
>> at least nightly backups. The other is used to sync with the
>> first one and but not used otherwise -- used sort of like a
>> tape drive (since they don't seem to scale to TB size backups
>> without spending lots of money). zfs since it will allow me
>> to grow storage seamlessly and raidz2 ought to be good
>> enough. Other ideas are possible. If you know of a vendor or
>> are one, please contact me privately. Please include me in
>> the cc list in case you wish to reply to the group.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Rod Grimes used to sell custom BSDboxes I recall.
> Various other people too. probably some are on hardware@
> Also see http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html
>
> For renting servers in Europe eg np@... &/or mwe@... (bcc'd
> so they wont drown in follow up :-).
> &/or http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html
>
> Also
> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html
> Cheers,
> Julian
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Re: file/backup server

2009-09-28T13:05:38Z

Bakul Shah wrote:

> Not sure what is the right group for this kind of query but
> perhaps people on this group has had similar need. I'd like
> to give freebsd guys a first shot hence a freebsd group.
>
> I am looking for a vendor who will supply a small
> number of fileservers but mainly for backing up a few TB of
> data (exact number not yet known). These will be used in
> various sites. I am envisioning one or two zfs based system.
> One is on all the time and provides some shared storage and
> at least nightly backups. The other is used to sync with the
> first one and but not used otherwise -- used sort of like a
> tape drive (since they don't seem to scale to TB size backups
> without spending lots of money). zfs since it will allow me
> to grow storage seamlessly and raidz2 ought to be good
> enough. Other ideas are possible. If you know of a vendor or
> are one, please contact me privately. Please include me in
> the cc list in case you wish to reply to the group.
>
> Thanks!

Rod Grimes used to sell custom BSDboxes I recall.
Various other people too. probably some are on hardware@
Also see http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html

For renting servers in Europe eg np@... &/or mwe@... (bcc'd
so they wont drown in follow up :-).
&/or http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

Also
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html
Cheers,
Julian
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file/backup server

2009-09-28T11:51:57Z

Not sure what is the right group for this kind of query but
perhaps people on this group has had similar need. I'd like
to give freebsd guys a first shot hence a freebsd group.

I am looking for a vendor who will supply a small
number of fileservers but mainly for backing up a few TB of
data (exact number not yet known). These will be used in
various sites. I am envisioning one or two zfs based system.
One is on all the time and provides some shared storage and
at least nightly backups. The other is used to sync with the
first one and but not used otherwise -- used sort of like a
tape drive (since they don't seem to scale to TB size backups
without spending lots of money). zfs since it will allow me
to grow storage seamlessly and raidz2 ought to be good
enough. Other ideas are possible. If you know of a vendor or
are one, please contact me privately. Please include me in
the cc list in case you wish to reply to the group.

Thanks!

-- bakul
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Re: Looking for News feed

2009-09-21T09:38:31Z

On 9/8/2009 7:15 PM Jean M. Vandette wrote:
> Greetings all
>
> Seems that both our upstream providers who were feeding us news had
> retired there
> news machines, as a result we have a news server which is not getting
> any feeds.
> Would there be anyone out there that can offer us full news feed
>

Hi Jean,

Drop a line to : news.admin.peering

You can also establish a nntp-peering with our text-only news server
(details on http://news.telesweet.net/).

Have a nice day!

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2009-09-15T03:04:47Z

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Re: Call for testers: ng_netflow with v9 and IPv6 support

2009-09-08T19:05:13Z

> Thanks for pointing out those RFCs.

Sure. There are more I probably missed.
Search rfc-editor or ietf for netflow or ipfix.

> can v5 count ipv6 ? No, what's next netflow version can ? v9? Ok, let's
> implement v9.

Yep, ipv6 is becoming really important, definitely on backbones. nProbe
has had it for a while. nProbe is a bpf flow sniffer and exporter. I don't
know about any other open source ones that do, besides your patch :)

> However, IPFIX seems to be very much like v9 at a first glance.

v9 was the first that came out, mostly a defacto cisco proprietary
thing as was v5. Netflow needed to be opened up / standardized. So
ipfix group was started.
cisco v9 was submitted to ietf ipfix working group as one of proposed
ipfix methods. v9 was then modified in the group a bit and called
IPFIX. Some of
this is in rfc 3955.

Ipfix is probably the way to go. Of course others on the lists could
input whether they see more of v9 or ipfix now and in future.
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