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which timing mechanism is more accurate?

2008-10-30T21:04:05Z

hi all,

Someone had every told me that select-based timing mechanism is more
accurate that signal based mechanism. Anyone could give me some tips about
the underlying reasons?

Best Regards, Sam Xia

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2007-04-16T10:28:51Z

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Still it may not all be obvious.

2007-04-16T08:27:08Z

As if I couldn't buy 10 not in a book (heaven forbid! Don't expect anything but fun from this movie - sit down and enjoy.
Through the social club at work I'm participating in a fitness scoreboard.
I'm just about managing to hover around 15th place (out of 80). Sit back and enjoy the ride on this one. everyone has access to computers and emails but they don't all think about ramifications of what they are or are not doing. Hacking Email: 99 Email Security and Productivity Tips entries: 580 :: last entry: 9. This excellent and inexpensive wine is great - if you don't tell others it's price they'll think it worth more than you paid. There will be a better place for this information (rather than in this blog) but for now - so I don't accidentally empty the brain's recycle bin, I thought I'd get it down in, err, bytes.
Gotta run - it'll increase my score!
they're all likable and dis-likable! I haven't looked at it yet - but the concept is very interesting. Now here's where it get's clever - you can signup on various scoreboards on the site and compete against other users! This has certainly damaged their image in my eyes. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
With a learning Bayesian filter this has the ability to grow with spam challenges. 51 up front to be used in 12 months. I'll be (yet again) lining up for my favourite stamp: the 1 penny special.
I've given up on an out of date tamps beacause it's so time consuming to stand in line at the Post Office to get 1c stamps. Well that's inexcusable. It's also nice to see that 20 minutes here, 20 minutes there all add up over the day. It won't cost you a fortune (somewhere in the teens), but it tastes fantastic. I've given up on an out of date tamps beacause it's so time consuming to stand in line at the Post Office to get 1c stamps.
Of course there are far more french wines that I'm willing to drink than movies I'm willing to watch - but lets not ruin the plan here. I know I'll take flack for it - but I liked it.
This excellent and inexpensive wine is great - if you don't tell others it's price they'll think it worth more than you paid. This year Canada Post has permanent stamps. I guess I'm kind of hoping that people's interest wanes a little so I can get ahead - that's probably wrong of me isn't it?
gone are the days of those email lists where you could find up to a thousand email addresses listed for any spammer to harvest. You can't help but tap your feet and chuckle. And I don't mean just a little better than the rest I mean their the only bits.
It's funny, well written, well filmed, excellently acted.
This has certainly damaged their image in my eyes. The amusing preview you may or may not have seen are the best bits.
You may find the beginning and some scenes surprisingly gory, but wait it out - it's really not about the gore.
com [gnabgib] bizwarcho Main Articles Blogs Books Movies Links Files Authors RSS New Words for 2003 Adminisphere The rarefied organizational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Today I bought a book of stamps.
I think I even have some 45c stamps kicking around (6 cents off target). I think I even have some 45c stamps kicking around (6 cents off target).
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2006-11-05T00:18:34Z

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2006-11-04T10:48:01Z

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2006-10-04T07:47:07Z

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Re: Point in the right direction

2006-09-21T08:16:38Z

Thanks to all who have replied. I was asking because I was reading about
the 6.x kernel and how the big mother of kernel locking was removed in
this kernel, so I assumed realtime FreeBSD would be ramping up. Sadly,
not a lot of activity in the realtime yet.

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:41:36AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> "David Godsey" wrote:
>> > So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime
>> FreeBSD,
>> > but the information is limited. So there must be some more
>> information
>> > out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me
>> please?
>>
>> I'd guessed there was also an embedded list but can't see it at
>> http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
>> Other lists may have related interests, eg freebsd-small & freebsd-ppc
>> NanoBSD (& some other small type keyword I can't remember) may be
>> worth searching on
>
> The fine-grain locking and preemption in 6- and -current
> *should* be most of what is required to move towards realtime.
> Perhaps throw in a different scheduler for good measure.
> Having said that, I don't think that anyone is busy doing any
> characterisation of worst-case path lengths and lock-holds,
> which is the other side of the equation.
>
> --
> Andrew
>

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid
people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?

David Godsey

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Re: Point in the right direction

2006-09-20T22:34:23Z

On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:41:36AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> "David Godsey" wrote:
> > So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
> > but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
> > out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?
>
> I'd guessed there was also an embedded list but can't see it at
> http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
> Other lists may have related interests, eg freebsd-small & freebsd-ppc
> NanoBSD (& some other small type keyword I can't remember) may be
> worth searching on

The fine-grain locking and preemption in 6- and -current
*should* be most of what is required to move towards realtime.
Perhaps throw in a different scheduler for good measure.
Having said that, I don't think that anyone is busy doing any
characterisation of worst-case path lengths and lock-holds,
which is the other side of the equation.

--
Andrew
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Re: Point in the right direction

2006-09-20T12:42:50Z

Wow, traffic on -realtime ..

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> "David Godsey" wrote:
> > So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
> > but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
> > out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?
>
> I'd guessed there was also an embedded list but can't see it at
> http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
> Other lists may have related interests, eg freebsd-small & freebsd-ppc
> NanoBSD (& some other small type keyword I can't remember) may be
> worth searching on

nano, pico, tiny ..

There was a flurry of embedded activity in -small a while ago. Though
-small is usually pretty quiet, the embedded folks hived off a separate
list, called -embedded IIRC. I's suggest checking the -small archives
over the last few months to see if there's anything of interest there.

Cheers, Ian

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Re: Point in the right direction

2006-09-20T02:41:36Z

"David Godsey" wrote:
> So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
> but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
> out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?

I'd guessed there was also an embedded list but can't see it at
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
Other lists may have related interests, eg freebsd-small & freebsd-ppc
NanoBSD (& some other small type keyword I can't remember) may be
worth searching on
--
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Mail Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz.
Don't buy it ! Get it free ! http://berklix.org/free-software
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2006-09-20T00:25:52Z

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Point in the right direction

2006-07-31T16:02:17Z

So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid
people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?

David Godsey

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Re: Information Sites

2006-07-30T15:11:40Z

--- David Godsey <freebsd@...> wrote:
> So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
> but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
> out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?
>
Hmm... I do not have practical experience in real time operations (just my
mostly theoretical studies of task scheduling and control engineering), so I
can only hope my contribution is not too useless/stupid... :-)

I say, have u read the man page rtprio(2) and polling(4)?

I would guess, that u might want to set kern.clockrate to something high
(1000..2000) (e. g. via /boot/loader.conf's kern.hz).

Furthermore I would recommend, that u do some tests/research/experiments in ur
specific environment (remember: real time constraints can be very different (e.
g. a simple electronic calculator is ok, when u just want to compute the taxes
in a shop or in a restaurant, but when u want to compute the course of Cpt.
Picard's Enterprise (StarTrek) u would need something faster (or it might get
struck by some kind of lightning or get stuck in a sun))). In this case here it
is the question, if u can tolerate fluctuations in scheduling accuracy
(response time) due to voluntary/unpredictable/dynamically-scheduled kernel
activity (I think polling(4) could just help (a little) with network devices,
so that hard disc activity can still hinder real time tasks).

>From the point of view of digital control engineering operating systems like
*BSD are no real real-time operating systems... Real real-time operating
systems are obviously able to guarantee a very high scheduling accuracy...

I just did this litte experiment with (avg. about 1.3Mbit/sec, peak about
16Mbit/sec) disc traffic at the same time and a clock rate of 1000Hz:

> rtprio
rtprio: normal priority
> repeat 10 time sleep .2
0.007u 0.015s 0:00.22 4.5% 12+396k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.030s 0:00.23 13.0% 182+1332k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.032s 0:00.23 13.0% 181+1288k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.010u 0.021s 0:00.23 13.0% 276+2064k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.006u 0.026s 0:00.24 8.3% 144+1230k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.029s 0:00.23 8.6% 136+966k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.032s 0:00.24 12.5% 185+1420k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.021u 0.010s 0:00.24 12.5% 182+1332k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.006u 0.025s 0:00.28 7.1% 278+2130k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.008u 0.026s 0:00.24 8.3% 276+2064k 0+0io 0pf+0w
neo# rtprio 30 -$$
neo# rtprio
rtprio: realtime priority 30
neo# repeat 10 time sleep .3
0.000u 0.025s 0:00.33 6.0% 138+1018k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.028s 0:00.33 6.0% 276+2036k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.027s 0:00.33 6.0% 140+1084k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.028s 0:00.33 6.0% 138+1018k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.006u 0.024s 0:00.32 6.2% 412+2988k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.026s 0:00.32 6.2% 138+1018k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.006u 0.020s 0:00.47 4.2% 274+1970k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.006u 0.019s 0:00.32 3.1% 552+4072k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.013s 0:00.31 3.2% 276+2036k 0+0io 0pf+0w
0.000u 0.014s 0:00.31 3.2% 276+2036k 0+0io 0pf+0w

-Arne

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Information Sites

2006-07-30T14:13:46Z

So I have been combing the internet for information on realtime FreeBSD,
but the information is limited. So there must be some more information
out there, but I do not know where to look. Can someone direct me please?

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid
people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?

David Godsey

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Suggest Tracing tools

2006-06-28T07:24:53Z

Hi All,

I'm a Newbie to FreeBSD world,

Please suggest some LTT equivalent tools for kernel tracing in FreeBSD.

Thanks and Regards,
Manu
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Re: crdit

2006-05-18T08:25:04Z

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Re: news good

2006-03-29T14:04:20Z

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Контроль над управлением в интегрированных структурах (холдингах)

2006-03-16T00:10:12Z

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Аудитория:
Курс разработан для руководителей предприятий крупного и среднего
бизнеса, членов советов директоров, собственников бизнеса,
руководителей и ответственных работников юридических и финансовых
департаментов, отделов ценных бумаг, инвестиционной практики,
управления имуществом, корпоративного управления, внутреннего аудита.

По окончании курса участники узнают:

* Наиболее оптимальные способы создания холдинговых структур.
* Порядок изменения корпоративного управления дочерними обществами в
зависимости от потребностей холдинга.
* Методы и приемы, обеспечивающие сохранение корпоративного контроля
над интегрированными структурами.
* Принципы гармонизации внутренних документов (локальных нормативных
актов) интегрированных структур.

Краткое содержание

* Понятие холдинга. Современное состояние и перспективы развития
правового регулирования холдинговых структур в России.
* Особенности создания и внутренняя структура холдингов в России
* Корпоративное управление холдинговыми структурами: международная
практика и российский подход
* Обеспечение корпоративного контроля над холдингами и
предотвращение внешних и внутренних угроз.
* Значение внутренних документов (локальных нормативных актов) в
управлении интегрированными структурами.
* Правовое регулирование ответственности в холдинговых структурах
* Ответы на вопросы

По вопросам регистарации обращайтесь по тел: (495) 742-9198; (495) 792
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Fw: concern Felix

2006-03-02T19:01:13Z

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Re: procreate

2005-12-07T13:10:08Z

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