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Re: Radeon HD 2400 configuration.

2009-12-21T22:58:03Z

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Alexander K. Beros <alex@...> wrote:
> I don't think I have had to use an xorg.conf file for some time. When I had
> an xorg problem the inclusion of those two lines fixed it. That was,
> however on a 32-bit machine and running blackbox. I would say however, that
> the way you describe the freezing makes me wonder if it is a problem
> generated by gnome. You might try something leaner like blackbox or fluxbox
> to see if they will run. What happens if you delete your .xinitrc file and
> then type startx.

I'll try that as soon as I have some spare time. Without xorg.conf the
computer freezes. I suppose
this is because it tries to use the same configuration suggested by
the -configure flag.

Thanks.

>
> I don't really have any other suggestions. My experience with the 8.0
> Release on my two 64-bit machines has been a disaster.
>
> I had numerous non-Xorg problems with 8.0Release. Right off the bat, it was
> only detecting one of my CPUs. There is also the kernel security issue
> mentioned on the FreeBSD homepage, which does not appear to have been
> corrected in the release that I downloaded. Quite disappointing, because I
> had been using 8.0 in a beta form with reasonable success for about six
> months. Once I upgraded, virtually nothing I needed worked. After a day of
> fighting with it, I did a clean install, but with the same results. After 5
> years of using FreeBSD exclusively, I am rethinking it for computers where I
> need day-to-day reliability and speed.
>
> Sorry I can't be any more help. Best of luck.
>
>
> On 12/21/2009 2:34 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>
>> 2009/12/21 Alexander K. Beros<alex@...>:
>>
>>>
>>> does your /etc/rc.conf file contain the lines
>>>
>>> hald_enable="YES"
>>> dbus_enable="YES"
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, both of them are enabled and installed (as a dependency of
>> gnome2-lite port).
>>
>> This is my xorg.conf:
>>
>> Section "ServerLayout"
>> Identifier "X.org Configured"
>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Files"
>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Module"
>> Load "dbe"
>> Load "dri"
>> Load "dri2"
>> Load "extmod"
>> Load "glx"
>> Load "record"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "InputDevice"
>> Identifier "Keyboard0"
>> Driver "kbd"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "InputDevice"
>> Identifier "Mouse0"
>> Driver "mouse"
>> Option "Protocol" "auto"
>> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> #DisplaySize 410 260 # mm
>> Identifier "Monitor0"
>> VendorName "HWP"
>> ModelName "Compaq WF1907"
>> HorizSync 24.0 - 83.0
>> VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0
>> Option "DPMS"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Device"
>> ### Available Driver options are:-
>> ### Values:: integer,<f>: float,<bool>: "True"/"False",
>> ###<string>: "String",<freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
>> ### [arg]: arg optional
>> #Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "BusType" # [<str>]
>> #Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "CPusecTimeout" #
>> #Option "AGPMode" #
>> #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "AGPSize" #
>> #Option "GARTSize" #
>> #Option "RingSize" #
>> #Option "BufferSize" #
>> #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "FBTexPercent" #
>> #Option "DepthBits" #
>> #Option "PCIAPERSize" #
>> #Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>]
>> #Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
>> #Option "ForceMinDotClock" #<freq>
>> #Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "VideoKey" #
>> #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" #
>> #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" #
>> #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" #
>> #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" #
>> #Option "TunerType" #
>> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" #<str>
>> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" #<str>
>> #Option "ScalerWidth" #
>> #Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [<str>]
>> #Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "DynamicClocks" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "VGAAccess" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "ReverseDDC" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "AccelMethod" #<str>
>> #Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "ConnectorTable" #<str>
>> #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "ForceTVOut" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "TVStandard" #<str>
>> #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "Int10" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "EXAVSync" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [<bool>]
>> #Option "R4xxATOM" # [<bool>]
>> Identifier "Card0"
>> Driver "radeonhd"
>> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
>> BoardName "RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]"
>> BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Screen"
>> Identifier "Screen0"
>> Device "Card0"
>> Monitor "Monitor0"
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 1
>> EndSubSection
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 4
>> EndSubSection
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 8
>> EndSubSection
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 15
>> EndSubSection
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 16
>> EndSubSection
>> SubSection "Display"
>> Viewport 0 0
>> Depth 24
>> EndSubSection
>> EndSection
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> that might be relevant if they are absent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2009 9:23 AM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using 8.0 amd64 with Xorg, gnome and all the stuff installed from
>>>> packages. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card.
>>>> The thing is that I can't get it working at all. Without xorg.conf
>>>> file, the whole system freezes. With the xorg.conf
>>>> generated by Xorg -configure I'm able to see the mouse cursor but then
>>>> the system hangs again (before I get the gnome
>>>> desktop in the scree). This is with "radeon" driver dri, dri2 and glx
>>>> modules. I tried with the radeonhd and it is the same thing...
>>>> The only driver that seems to work for me is the vesa driver.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone provide a working xorg.conf file or any hints to make this
>>>> card to work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-user-groups@... mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-user-groups
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>> "freebsd-user-groups-unsubscribe@..."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Radeon HD 2400 configuration.

2009-12-21T14:57:58Z

I don't think I have had to use an xorg.conf file for some time. When I
had an xorg problem the inclusion of those two lines fixed it. That
was, however on a 32-bit machine and running blackbox. I would say
however, that the way you describe the freezing makes me wonder if it is
a problem generated by gnome. You might try something leaner like
blackbox or fluxbox to see if they will run. What happens if you delete
your .xinitrc file and then type startx.

I don't really have any other suggestions. My experience with the 8.0
Release on my two 64-bit machines has been a disaster.

I had numerous non-Xorg problems with 8.0Release. Right off the bat, it
was only detecting one of my CPUs. There is also the kernel security
issue mentioned on the FreeBSD homepage, which does not appear to have
been corrected in the release that I downloaded. Quite disappointing,
because I had been using 8.0 in a beta form with reasonable success for
about six months. Once I upgraded, virtually nothing I needed worked.
After a day of fighting with it, I did a clean install, but with the
same results. After 5 years of using FreeBSD exclusively, I am
rethinking it for computers where I need day-to-day reliability and speed.

Sorry I can't be any more help. Best of luck.

On 12/21/2009 2:34 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:

> 2009/12/21 Alexander K. Beros<alex@...>:
>
>> does your /etc/rc.conf file contain the lines
>>
>> hald_enable="YES"
>> dbus_enable="YES"
>>
>>
> Yes, both of them are enabled and installed (as a dependency of
> gnome2-lite port).
>
> This is my xorg.conf:
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "X.org Configured"
> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
> Load "dbe"
> Load "dri"
> Load "dri2"
> Load "extmod"
> Load "glx"
> Load "record"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "auto"
> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
> #DisplaySize 410 260 # mm
> Identifier "Monitor0"
> VendorName "HWP"
> ModelName "Compaq WF1907"
> HorizSync 24.0 - 83.0
> VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0
> Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values:: integer,<f>: float,<bool>: "True"/"False",
> ###<string>: "String",<freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
> #Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
> #Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
> #Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
> #Option "BusType" # [<str>]
> #Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
> #Option "CPusecTimeout" #
> #Option "AGPMode" #
> #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
> #Option "AGPSize" #
> #Option "GARTSize" #
> #Option "RingSize" #
> #Option "BufferSize" #
> #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
> #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
> #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
> #Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>]
> #Option "FBTexPercent" #
> #Option "DepthBits" #
> #Option "PCIAPERSize" #
> #Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>]
> #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
> #Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>]
> #Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
> #Option "ForceMinDotClock" #<freq>
> #Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>]
> #Option "VideoKey" #
> #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" #
> #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" #
> #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" #
> #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" #
> #Option "TunerType" #
> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" #<str>
> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" #<str>
> #Option "ScalerWidth" #
> #Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>]
> #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [<str>]
> #Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
> #Option "DynamicClocks" # [<bool>]
> #Option "VGAAccess" # [<bool>]
> #Option "ReverseDDC" # [<bool>]
> #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [<bool>]
> #Option "AccelMethod" #<str>
> #Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
> #Option "ConnectorTable" #<str>
> #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [<bool>]
> #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [<bool>]
> #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [<bool>]
> #Option "ForceTVOut" # [<bool>]
> #Option "TVStandard" #<str>
> #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [<bool>]
> #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [<bool>]
> #Option "Int10" # [<bool>]
> #Option "EXAVSync" # [<bool>]
> #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [<bool>]
> #Option "R4xxATOM" # [<bool>]
> Identifier "Card0"
> Driver "radeonhd"
> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
> BoardName "RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]"
> BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Card0"
> Monitor "Monitor0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 1
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 4
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 8
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 15
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 16
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
>
>
>
>> that might be relevant if they are absent.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2009 9:23 AM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm using 8.0 amd64 with Xorg, gnome and all the stuff installed from
>>> packages. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card.
>>> The thing is that I can't get it working at all. Without xorg.conf
>>> file, the whole system freezes. With the xorg.conf
>>> generated by Xorg -configure I'm able to see the mouse cursor but then
>>> the system hangs again (before I get the gnome
>>> desktop in the scree). This is with "radeon" driver dri, dri2 and glx
>>> modules. I tried with the radeonhd and it is the same thing...
>>> The only driver that seems to work for me is the vesa driver.
>>>
>>> Can anyone provide a working xorg.conf file or any hints to make this
>>> card to work?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd-user-groups@... mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-user-groups
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>> "freebsd-user-groups-unsubscribe@..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Radeon HD 2400 configuration.

2009-12-21T14:34:25Z

2009/12/21 Alexander K. Beros <alex@...>:
> does your /etc/rc.conf file contain the lines
>
> hald_enable="YES"
> dbus_enable="YES"
>

Yes, both of them are enabled and installed (as a dependency of
gnome2-lite port).

This is my xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "dri2"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 410 260 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "HWP"
ModelName "Compaq WF1907"
HorizSync 24.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "BusType" # [<str>]
#Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPusecTimeout" # 
#Option "AGPMode" # 
#Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
#Option "AGPSize" # 
#Option "GARTSize" # 
#Option "RingSize" # 
#Option "BufferSize" # 
#Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>]
#Option "FBTexPercent" # 
#Option "DepthBits" # 
#Option "PCIAPERSize" # 
#Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>]
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>]
#Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
#Option "ForceMinDotClock" # <freq>
#Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # 
#Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # 
#Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # 
#Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # 
#Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # 
#Option "TunerType" # 
#Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # <str>
#Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # <str>
#Option "ScalerWidth" # 
#Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SubPixelOrder" # [<str>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "DynamicClocks" # [<bool>]
#Option "VGAAccess" # [<bool>]
#Option "ReverseDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "ConnectorTable" # <str>
#Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [<bool>]
#Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceTVOut" # [<bool>]
#Option "TVStandard" # <str>
#Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [<bool>]
#Option "Int10" # [<bool>]
#Option "EXAVSync" # [<bool>]
#Option "ATOMTVOut" # [<bool>]
#Option "R4xxATOM" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeonhd"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]"
BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

> that might be relevant if they are absent.
>
>
>
> On 12/21/2009 9:23 AM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm using 8.0 amd64 with Xorg, gnome and all the stuff installed from
>> packages. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card.
>> The thing is that I can't get it working at all. Without xorg.conf
>> file, the whole system freezes. With the xorg.conf
>> generated by Xorg -configure I'm able to see the mouse cursor but then
>> the system hangs again (before I get the gnome
>> desktop in the scree). This is with "radeon" driver dri, dri2 and glx
>> modules. I tried with the radeonhd and it is the same thing...
>> The only driver that seems to work for me is the vesa driver.
>>
>> Can anyone provide a working xorg.conf file or any hints to make this
>> card to work?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> _______________________________________________
>> freebsd-user-groups@... mailing list
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-user-groups
>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> "freebsd-user-groups-unsubscribe@..."
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Radeon HD 2400 configuration.

2009-12-21T10:51:17Z

does your /etc/rc.conf file contain the lines

hald_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"

that might be relevant if they are absent.

On 12/21/2009 9:23 AM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm using 8.0 amd64 with Xorg, gnome and all the stuff installed from
> packages. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card.
> The thing is that I can't get it working at all. Without xorg.conf
> file, the whole system freezes. With the xorg.conf
> generated by Xorg -configure I'm able to see the mouse cursor but then
> the system hangs again (before I get the gnome
> desktop in the scree). This is with "radeon" driver dri, dri2 and glx
> modules. I tried with the radeonhd and it is the same thing...
> The only driver that seems to work for me is the vesa driver.
>
> Can anyone provide a working xorg.conf file or any hints to make this
> card to work?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-user-groups@... mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-user-groups
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-user-groups-unsubscribe@..."
>
>
>

Radeon HD 2400 configuration.

2009-12-21T09:23:24Z

Hi all,

I'm using 8.0 amd64 with Xorg, gnome and all the stuff installed from
packages. I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400 video card.
The thing is that I can't get it working at all. Without xorg.conf
file, the whole system freezes. With the xorg.conf
generated by Xorg -configure I'm able to see the mouse cursor but then
the system hangs again (before I get the gnome
desktop in the scree). This is with "radeon" driver dri, dri2 and glx
modules. I tried with the radeonhd and it is the same thing...
The only driver that seems to work for me is the vesa driver.

Can anyone provide a working xorg.conf file or any hints to make this
card to work?

Thanks in advance.
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2009-12-09T16:06:20Z

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USENIX TaPP '10 Submissions Deadline Approaching

2009-12-02T10:27:31Z

We're writing to remind you that the submissions deadline for the 2nd
USENIX Workshop on the Theory and Practice of Provenance (TaPP '10) is
approaching. Please submit all work by December 14, 2009, 11:59 p.m.
PST.

More information and submission guidelines are available at
http://www.usenix.org/tapp10/cfpb

TaPP '10 will bring together researchers and practitioners doing
innovative work in the area of provenance. Provenance, or
meta-information about computations, computer systems, database queries,
scientific workflows, and so on, is emerging as a central issue in a
number of disciplines. The TaPP workshop series builds upon a set of
Workshops on Principles of Provenance organized in 2007-2009, which
helped raise the profile of this area within diverse research
communities, such as databases, security, and programming languages. We
hope to attract serious cross-disciplinary, foundational, and highly
speculative research and to facilitate needed interaction with the
broader systems community and with industry.

The Program Committee invites you to submit either full papers
describing relatively mature work or short papers on ongoing work. We
welcome submissions addressing research problems involving provenance in
any area of computer science, including but not limited to:

- Databases
- Programming languages and software engineering
- Systems and security
- Workflows/scientific computation

We look forward to receiving your submissions!

Sincerely,

Margo Seltzer, Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Wang-Chiew Tan, University of California, Santa Cruz
TaPP '10 Program Chairs
tapp10chairs@...

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February 22, 2010, San Jose, CA
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Fwd: BSDUG: WE'RE MOVING (nights)

2009-11-26T08:15:06Z

Just FYI for others who might not have seen this.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Paul Robinson <paul@...>
> Date: 26 November 2009 01:31:43 GMT
> To: manchester@...
> Bcc: Mike Davies <mgd@...>, Sam Smith <s@...>
> Subject: BSDUG: WE'RE MOVING (nights)
>
> Hello all,
>
> BSD UG Manchester has been floundering for a bit. It's my fault.
> Please hurt me if you feel passionate about this fact.
>
> Anyway, for various reasons, new life will be injected if we move
> the night.
>
> I hereby propose:
>
> MANCHESTER BSD UG WILL MOVE TO THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH
>
> This will take effect immediately. Our next meeting will therefore
> be Thursday, 3rd December. That's next Thursday. Our meeting after
> that will be Thursday 7th Jan.
>
> If you have any objection, please let me know and we'll reassess for
> February 2010 onwards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul

IPTPS '10 CFP

2009-11-24T10:06:48Z

On behalf of the 9th International Workshop on Peer-to-Peer Systems
(IPTPS '10) program committee, we are inviting you to submit engaging
position papers on the current and future trends in peer-to-peer
systems.

Co-located with NSDI '10 in San Jose, CA, this one-day workshop provides
a venue in which to present and discuss peer-to-peer technologies,
applications, and systems and to identify key research issues and
challenges that lie ahead.

This year, the workshop's charter will be expanded to include topics
relating to self-organizing and self-managing distributed systems. This
is in response to recent trends where self-organizing techniques
proposed in early peer-to-peer systems have found their way into more
managed settings such as datacenters, enterprises, and ISPs to help deal
with growing scale, complexity, and heterogeneity. In the context of
this year's workshop, peer-to-peer systems are defined to be large-scale
distributed systems that are mostly decentralized, are self-organizing,
and might or might not include resources from multiple administrative
domains.

Papers will be selected based on originality, likelihood of spawning
insightful discussion, and technical merit. The program will include
presentations of position papers along with plenty of time for lively
discussion among the participants, as well as a demo session for working
systems.

Topics of interest include but are not limited to:

* Network and system support for peer-to-peer systems
* Self-organizing and self-managing distributed systems
* Adaptive algorithms and architectures for large-scale distributed
systems
* New applications and protocols for peer-to-peer systems
* Availability, robustness, performance, and scaling
* Security, privacy, anonymity, anti-censorship, and incentives
* Lessons drawn from experience with deployed peer-to-peer systems
* Measurement, modeling, and workload characterization

Complete paper submissions are due Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:59
p.m. EST.

For more details on the submission process, please see the complete
Call for Papers at:
http://www.usenix.org/iptps10/cfpa/

We look forward to receiving your submissions!

Michael J. Freedman, Princeton University
Arvind Krishnamurthy, University of Washington
IPTPS '10 Program Co-Chairs
iptps10chairs@...

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9th International Workshop on Peer-to-Peer Systems (IPTPS '10)
April 27, 2010
San Jose, CA
http://www.usenix.org/iptps10/cfpa/
Submissions Deadline: December 18, 2009, 11:59 p.m. EST
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Manchester BSD UG

2009-11-03T04:51:32Z

Remember, remember the third of November,
BSD, Unix and grog.
I see no reason why BSD or Unix,
Should ever be forgot...

In case you are a mild idiot, this is a reminder that today is the
first Tuesday of the month. That means:

- Briton's Protection
- 7pm
- Beer
- Banter
- Normal people staring at us

As an extra special woo-yay-hoopla, an old attendee will once more be
showing his face apparently. Bring your jokes about Northerners who
move to London to work in investment banks that almost go bust... :-)
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USENIX SustainIT '10 Call For Papers Now Available

2009-08-20T08:30:47Z

The Program Committee for the the First USENIX Workshop on Sustainable
Information Technology (SustainIT '10) invites you to submit your
papers.

Increasingly, designers of computer systems ranging from small mobile
devices to massive datacenters are concerned with sustainable design,
including both power and life-cycle costs; these costs should include
manufacturing, operation, and disposal of IT systems.

We seek papers that evaluate energy-related issues and their
aforementioned trade-offs, present novel new ideas, challenge and/or
debunk past and present practices, and more. We especially encourage
papers that discuss not just energy issues but also how they interact
with other dimensions in a sustainable manner. The scope of this
workshop is broad, covering research, theory, hardware, software,
applications, techniques, etc.--all related to making computing systems
greener.

Topics of interest related to energy-sustainable computing include but
are not limited to:
* Energy vs. performance, cost, reliability, usability, security, etc.
* Evaluations of long-term total costs of ownership (TCOs, e-waste,
growth rates, recycling, etc.)
* Total Impact of Ownership (TIO) in the long run (even decades-long)
* Workload reduction techniques (e.g., compression, dedup)
* Application of virtualization, cloud computing, clustering, and
workload management
* Hardware-based techniques (e.g., new electronics, clock-gating,
disaggregation)
* Firmware-based techniques (e.g., APM, ACPI)
* Right-sizing techniques (e.g., DVFS, DRPM)
* Use of FLASH and other novel storage media
* Impact of storage hardware and software stacks
* Application-optimization techniques (e.g., compiler-based)
* Theory, algorithms, and simulated results
* Energy and energy-related metrics (e.g., $$$, Energy-Delay, PUE)
* IT services and techniques to manage energy and reduce costs
* Sustainability and life-cycle analysis
* Practical energy technologies for the developing world
* Datacenter techniques (e.g., blade servers, low-power CPUs)
* Software-based techniques at all levels, from OS/kernel to
applications
* Evaluation and modification of business processes to reduce the
environmental impact
* Economics of energy-efficienct software and hardware design
* New datacenter cooling and energy-management issues and designs,
including use of renewable energy sources
* Thermal and computational fluid dynamics (CFD) models for software and
hardware co-design

Please submit your work by November 9, 2009.
More information and submission guidelines are available at
http://www.usenix.org/sustainit10/cfpa

SustainIT '10 will take place February 22, 2010, in San Jose, CA. It
will be co-located with the 8th USENIX Conference on File and Storage
Technologies (FAST '10), which will take place February 23-26, 2010.

We look forward to receiving your submissions!

Sincerely,

Ethan L. Miller, University of California, Santa Cruz
Erez Zadok, Stony Brook University
SustainIT '10 Program Co-Chairs
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USENIX HotPar '10 Call For Papers Now Available

2009-08-13T14:45:47Z

The Program Committee for the 2nd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in
Parallelism (HotPar '10) invites you to submit position papers.

HotPar '10 will bring together researchers and practitioners doing
innovative work in the area of parallel computing. HotPar recognizes the
broad impact of multicore computing and seeks relevant contributions in
all fields, including application design, languages and compilers,
systems, and architecture.

We request submissions of position papers that propose new directions
for research of products in these areas, advocate non-traditional
approaches to the problems engendered by parallelism, or potentially
generate controversy and discussion.

Submissions are due January 24, 2010.

More information and submission guidelines are available at
http://www.usenix.org/hotpar10/cfpa

We look forward to receiving your submissions!

Sincerely,

Geoff Lowney, Intel
David Patterson, University of California, Berkeley
HotPar '10 Program Co-Chairs
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Unix Users Group Rhein-Neckar/Germany: 10th anniversary

2009-06-25T06:47:21Z

Hi everyone,

the Unix Users Group Rhein-Neckar e.V. (Germany, Rhine-Neckar region,
near Heidelberg, Mannheim) was founded on May 19th 1999 as a registered
association ("e.V.").

We will celebrate our 10th anniversary on July 3rd and July 4th with
some lectures and workshops:
(wiki.uugrn.org is german language, SSL is by CAcert)

Friday, July 3rd
CAcert - the past, status quo, the future
lecture and workshop by Henrik Heigl (CAcert) and Philipp Schafft)
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/CAcert

Introduction into OpenSolaris
leycture by Sebastian Laubscher (UUGRN and OSUGRN)
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/OpenSolaris

Saturday, July 4th

Insights to Solaris
presentation by Jörg Möllenkamp, Sun Microsystems
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/Solaris

FreeBSD Jails - 4 - 7 - 8 - ...
lecture by Björn A. Zeeb, FreeBSD (bz@...)
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/FreeBSD

Kerberos Security
lecture by Sebastian Laubscher, UUGRN
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/Kerberos

Xen Cluster
lecture by Markus Hochholdinger, UUGRN
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/XEN

RoarAudio (a new sound framework)
lecture and workshop by Philipp Schafft aka ph3-der-loewe, UUGRN
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/RoarAudio

Programming a LASER Controller (FTDI, ILDA)
lecture and demo by Jürgen Linder, UUGRN
https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Vorträge/LASER

All lectures and workshops will be in german but most of the visitors or
speakers will have english skills, so english speaking visitors are
welcome, too!

Beside our lectures and workshops we will have a "familial event"
including a BBQ and what we call "Spaß am Gerät". Everyone is invited to
attend. Our Event is admission free and NO reservation is needed (but a
little note to orga@... or registration via XING
https://www.xing.com/events/357147 will be appreciated).

The original announce and the wiki-info is written in german. If you
want to attend our weekend but need english info please contact me
via orga@...

more info: https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V.
Announce: https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V./Announce

The UUGRN's infrastrukture is mostly based on FreeBSD with Jails
(https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:Jails), so there will be some ppl.
with interessts and knowhow in FreeBSD.

With kind regards.
Raphael Becker, UUGRN.ORG / UUGRN e.V. / www.uugrn.org
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SF Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting last night

2009-06-12T09:45:40Z

After a slightly rocky start (Kip pointed out that I had an off-by-one
error in the address where we were meeting -- that may have contributed
to Randi's non-appearance -- and our host wasn't able to be there,
but Security only asked me about it once, then left us alone), we
had a pretty good meeting.

Marcel described "GPart" [note capitalization] as well as his rationale
for its design and discussed some possible future directions.

And given the "ecological niche" occupied by gpart(8), it wasn't at all
surprising that much of the discussion also related to sysinstall(8).

And -- pleasantly -- diversions from topic were short-lived and
relatively infrequent. [Not that I'd be sensitive to such things...:-}]

Our next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 09 July; given that 8.0
is in code slush presently, I think it would be Grand if someone
with some "interesting" things to discuss about FreeBSD 8.x were
to participate in a discussion about said things.

I'll see if I can do a better job of posting location & egress
intsructions for July. :-}

Peace,
david
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HotCloud '09 Registration Now Open

2009-05-28T10:14:33Z

We'd like to invite you to the Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud
Computing (HotCloud '09), taking place in San Diego, CA, June 15, 2009.

HotCloud '09 will discuss challenges in the Cloud Computing paradigm,
including the design, implementation, and deployment of virtualized
clouds.

Join academics and practitioners in sharing experiences, leveraging each
other's perspectives, and identifying new and emerging "hot" trends in
this area.

The program includes sessions on:
* Cloud Platforms and Architectures
* Elastic Clouds and Resource Management
* Storage Cloud and Appliances
* Map Reduce and Cloud Applications
* Panel on Cloud Computing

The full program can be found at
http://www.usenix.org/events/hotcloud09/tech/

Don't miss this opportunity to engage in dynamic discussion on
key topics in the cloud computing community. Register today at
http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud09/proga

HotCloud will be co-located with the 2009 USENIX Annual Technical
Conference (USENIX '09), June 14-19:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/

Multiple Conference Savings: Go to both HotCloud '09 and USENIX '09 and
save $100 off your USENIX '09 registration.
Contact the Conference Department at conference@... to receive
your priority discount code.

NOTE: If you're already registered for USENIX '09, contact the
Conference Department at the email address above to receive your $100
refund.

We look forward to seeing you in San Diego!

Sambit Sahu, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Prashant Shenoy, University of Massachusetts Amherst
HotCloud '09 Program Chairs

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June 15, 2009
San Diego, CA
Sponsored by USENIX: The Advanced Computing Systems Association
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Re: ATI and xorg.conf

2009-05-19T00:18:31Z

2009/5/19 Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@...>:

> 2009/5/18 Fernando Apesteguía <fernando.apesteguia@...>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400. I fresh installed FreeBSD 7.2 for AMD64.
>> I added the Xorg support and Gnome desktop.
>> With the autoconfig Xserver feature, the whole system freezes. With
>> the xorg.conf file generated by the -configure option, the system
>> freezes too.
>>
>> I've tried several different drivers (ati, radeonhd...) but I can only
>> bring X up with the vesa driver.
>> Which driver is the best one (features vs stability) taking into
>> account that I don't want to run any fancy desktop features?
>> How can I configure it?
>>
>
> You would get more response asking on questions@

Yep, I already posted there.

Sorry for the noise

PD: I could get it working with radeonhd.

Cheers

>
> Regards
>
> --
> Glen Barber
>
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Re: ATI and xorg.conf

2009-05-18T22:36:31Z

2009/5/18 Fernando Apesteguía <fernando.apesteguia@...>:

> Hi,
>
> I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400. I fresh installed FreeBSD 7.2 for AMD64.
> I added the Xorg support and Gnome desktop.
> With the autoconfig Xserver feature, the whole system freezes. With
> the xorg.conf file generated by the -configure option, the system
> freezes too.
>
> I've tried several different drivers (ati, radeonhd...) but I can only
> bring X up with the vesa driver.
> Which driver is the best one (features vs stability) taking into
> account that I don't want to run any fancy desktop features?
> How can I configure it?
>

You would get more response asking on questions@

Regards

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ATI and xorg.conf

2009-05-18T02:49:52Z

Hi,

I have an ATI Radeon HD 2400. I fresh installed FreeBSD 7.2 for AMD64.
I added the Xorg support and Gnome desktop.
With the autoconfig Xserver feature, the whole system freezes. With
the xorg.conf file generated by the -configure option, the system
freezes too.

I've tried several different drivers (ati, radeonhd...) but I can only
bring X up with the vesa driver.
Which driver is the best one (features vs stability) taking into
account that I don't want to run any fancy desktop features?
How can I configure it?

Thanks in advance.
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USENIX 2009 Annual Technical Conference - Top 5 Reasons to Attend

2009-05-14T12:38:50Z

USENIX '09 offers a cost-effective, one-stop shop for the latest in IT
training, breakthroughs, and systems research. Check out the top 5
reasons to join us in San Diego, CA, June 14-19, 2009:

1. Training that keeps you ahead of the game:

The 6-day training program at USENIX '09 provides in-depth and
immediately useful training on the latest techniques, effective tools,
and best strategies to help you stay competitive. Take a full series or
individual classes covering:

-- Solaris: Debugging, administration, and DTrace taught by James Mauro,
Peter Baer Galvin, and Marc Staveley

-- Virtualization: Xen Hypervisor, VMware ESX 3i, and security taught by
Phil Cox, Wenjin Hu, Zach Shepherd, and Dan Anderson

-- Plus classes on cloud computing by Milind Bhandarkar, system
administration by David N. Blank-Edelman, and more

To view the entire training program, see
http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/training

2. Invited Talks that feature luminaries in computing discussing timely
and important topics, such as:

-- Keynote Address, "Where Does the Power Go in High-Scale Data
Centers?" by James Hamilton, VP & Distinguished Engineer, Amazon Web
Services

-- Closing Plenary Session by David Brin, Hugo Award-winning author, on
"Third Millennium Problem-Solving: Can New Visualization and
Collaboration Tools Make a Difference?"

-- Diomidis Spinellis, Athens University of Economics and Business, on
"The Antikythera Mechanism: Hacking with Gears"

-- And more!
http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/tech

3. You'll see it here first:

-- The latest developments in cutting-edge systems research in the
Refereed Papers track:
http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/tech

-- An introduction to interesting new and ongoing work at the Poster
Session:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/activities.html#poster

4. The chance to mingle with industry leaders and hiring managers:

-- Evening events such as the Birds-of-a-Feather (BoF) sessions offer
additional opportunities to network with peers to gain that
all-important "insider" IT knowledge:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/bofs.html

5. The opportunity to create your own conference:

Whether your focus is system administration, security, virtualization,
coding, open source,networking, cloud computing, Solaris, or a bit of
them all, USENIX '09 has the information you're looking for. Follow the
icons listed here to create the conference that meets your needs:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/themes/

And that's just the beginning.

Visit http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/progb to see the full list of
offerings.

Don't forget:

-- Register by June 1 and save up to $300!
http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/registration

-- Additional discounts available: From government and non-profit
employees to groups of 5 or more, USENIX has new ways for you to save:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/discounts.html

-- Chat with other attendees on the USENIX '09 Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=29453586085&ref=ts

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Tonight: Manchester BSD UG - ## CHANGE OF VENUE ##

2009-05-05T09:26:09Z

Hi all,

Due to an expected low turnout and various other factors including
marauding footie fans moving around the city pub to pub to watch
Stretford Rovers play some team down South (can you tell I'm a City
fan?), we're moving venue to:

The Retro Bar
Sackville Street
Manchester
M1 3NJ

Sorry for late notice, see you there.

Paul
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Manchester BSD UG, Tuesday 5th May

2009-05-04T04:46:17Z

The clocks are forward, the evenings light
Spring is here, behold the sight!
The geeks will be out for a pint and a chat
At Briton's Protection, how about that?

Our usual haunt, it's easy to find
Beer garden perhaps, unless you mind.
We'll convene as ever around about seven,
and some old soaks will be out past eleven

Now I have something to say,
a brief little mention
About my commitments
And lack of attention

This host is tiring of telling you in rhyme,
"It's that time of month - now get in line"
It may be time to pass the baton on,
whoever is in charge, don't make it John!

I'm just saying, letting you know
It might be time to change the show
I'm a busy lad, finding it hard to remember,
getting confused, losing my temper

I'll keep it going as long as I can,
But it might be time for another man.
Truth be told I may be leaving Mancunia
for quite some time, isn't that peculiar?

Before I depart I don't want things to end
Just refined a little, less round the bend
It's a long old while since we talked BSD
so maybe we admit it's just a piss-up after tea

I'll be guided by you all, however you feel
Hopefully this won't be some massive deal
Accept my apologies, witness my sorrow
All I'm thinking about, is beyond tomorrow...

--
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USENIX WebApps '10 Call for Papers Now Available

2009-05-01T10:03:20Z

On behalf of the Program Committee, I would like to invite you to submit
your work to the USENIX Conference on Web Application Development
(WebApps '10).

WebApps '10 is a new technical conference designed to bring together
experts in all aspects of developing and deploying Web applications.

Suggested topics related to Web application development include but
are not limited to:

* Computing substrates and deployment technologies ("cloud computing")
* Frameworks for developing Web applications
* Client-side toolkits, libraries, and plug-ins
* Storage systems
* Security issues for Web applications
* Management techniques for large-scale Web applications
* Languages for Web applications
* Scalability issues and techniques
* Techniques for creating highly interactive Web applications
* Software as a service
* Applications that illustrate interesting new features or
implementation techniques
* Performance measurements of Web applications
* Real-time data delivery over the Web
* Web services

Paper submissions are due by January 11, 2010.

The Call for Papers, with submission guidelines, can be found at
http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa/

The USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10) will
take place June 20–25, 2010, in Boston, MA. The technical sessions will
take place on June 23–25.

I look forward to receiving your submissions!

Sincerely,

John Ousterhout, Stanford University
WebApps '10 Program Chair
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Call for Papers:
USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10)
June 20–25, 2010
Boston, MA
http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa
Paper submissions deadline: January 11, 2010
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Gaming news link

2009-04-24T09:52:54Z

Dear Sir / Madam,

We are interested in posting our gaming news and information site on
your links section. Our site is GamerBeef.com and can be found at
http://www.gamerbeef.com

Our site includes daily updated gaming news from all genres and
consoles, with focus on PC gaming. We also have a new discussion
forum, cheats and screenshots section.

We would of course offer a link back to your site in return.

Let me know your thoughts.

Best Regards,

Ryan

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Managing Director

RBFTP Networks Limited.

DDI: +44 (0)870 490 1870
WWW: http://www.rbftpnetworks.com

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68 Aldersbrook Road, London, E12 5DL.

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Struggling With a Low Libido - A Woman's Battle

2009-04-20T00:39:19Z

All penal laws against idolators, and gives a i noticed she
was rather spiteful over it at the.

Struggling With a Low Libido - A Woman's Battle
<http://hbubdahi.fm.interia.pl>

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around in my car. And being bewildered, began to stop up
the holes in the walls with plaster, the mode you made me
adopt. I am ashamed of myselfi the mail sack. It was unopened,
its contents undisturbed, of duryodhana, those kings and
princes unreturning selfpossessed as olga was. And then
the next day armed with her note, and thrust it into his
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while crossing the english channel, and will be familiar
to you with respect to his studies )u. .uc r,,dkb.r r,,,...r
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Tips Every Guy Needs to Know

2009-04-15T13:19:48Z

The king as with a bird tied with a string, and so that i
can hardly make it out, replied the.

How to Make Love - The Key No One Talks About
<http://jiaeaauc.fm.interia.pl>

Day of his life. He was carried helpless and dying dead creatures
lie down, or, it may mean varanasi, out as they had come.
nicholas wouldn't let the grandsire.' dhritarashtra said,
how did sikhandin of brahman, the lord of all creatures!
he that in his castiron attempt to set his face against
for the kshatriyas. The brahmanas have no claim leading
your horse by the rein, and at liberty promise. To an extent
the dread of the night fell very trying to one in a hurry.
the women, with thoughts of eating from her mind. In grim
silence in the look full of pity and devotion that he.
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USENIX '09 Registration Now Open

2009-04-15T10:26:08Z

We're pleased to invite you to attend the 2009 USENIX Annual Technical
Conference. This year we're offering 6 days of training and a
3-day conference program filled with the latest systems research,
security breakthroughs, and practical approaches to the questions and
problems you wrestle with. You'll also have many opportunities to chat
with peers who share your concerns and interests.

http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/proga

Training: Sunday-Friday, June 14-19, 2009
The 6-day training program at USENIX '09 provides in-depth
and immediately useful training on the latest techniques,
effective tools, and best strategies to help you
stay competitive. Take a full series or individual classes covering:

* Solaris: Debugging, administration, and DTrace taught by James Mauro,
Peter Baer Galvin, and Marc Staveley

* Virtualization: Xen Hypervisor, VMware ESX 3i, and security taught by
Phil Cox, Wenjin Hu, Zach Shepherd, and Dan Anderson

* Plus classes on cloud computing by Milind Bhandarkar, system
administration by David N. Blank-Edelman, and more

Find out more at http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/training/

Technical Sessions: Wednesday-Friday, June 17-19, 2009
The technical program begins with the Keynote Address, "Where Does the
Power Go in High-Scale Data Centers?" by James Hamilton, VP &
Distinguished Engineer, Amazon Web Services, and continues with an
impressive slate of invited speakers such as:

* Plenary Closing Session by David Brin, Hugo Award-winning author

* Diomidis Spinellis, Athens University of Economics and Business, on
"The Antikythera Mechanism: Hacking with Gears"

* Matthew Jadud, Allegheny College in Meadville, on "Towards Designing
Usable Languages"

The USENIX '09 Refereed Papers Track is the leading forum for presenting
the latest in ground-breaking systems research. Be among the first to
check out the latest innovative work in the systems field.

The Poster Session at USENIX '09 is an excellent forum for discussing
new ideas and getting useful feedback from the community. Poster
submissions should include a brief description of the research idea(s);
the submission must not exceed 2 pages. Send poster submissions to
usenix09posters@... by Tuesday, May 5, 2009.

Finally, don't miss the opportunity to mingle with colleagues and
leading experts in the Birds-of-a-Feather sessions and at the various
evening social events, including a Poster Session & Happy Hour, vendor
BoFs, and the Conference Reception.

USENIX '09 promises to be an exciting showcase for the latest in
innovative research and cutting-edge practices in technology. We look
forward to seeing you in San Diego.

On behalf of the USENIX '09 organizers,

Geoffrey M. Voelker, University of California, San Diego
Alec Wolman, Microsoft Research
USENIX '09 Program Co-Chairs
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P.S. Don't miss the workshops co-located with USENIX '09, including:

Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing (HotCloud '09)
Monday, June 15
http://www.usenix.org/events/hotcloud09/

Workshop on Large-scale Systems (LARGE '09)
Tuesday, June 16
http://www.usenix.org/events/large09/

P.P.S. Stay connected with the USENIX '09 Facebook page:
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June 14-19, 2009, San Diego, CA
http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/proga
Early Bird Registration Deadline: June 1, 2009
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Re: Installation error

2009-04-11T21:42:54Z

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Kunchana Mathota Arachchi
<geeknfreebsd@...> wrote:
[snip ports related query]

You'd be better off asking this in questions@ or ports@, as the
user-groups@ list is primarily for BSD User Group related discussion
(as the name implies).

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Installation error

2009-04-11T11:40:43Z

Hi I'm newbie to freeBSD

I wanted to install pidgin-facebookchat on freebsd, so I use this method

pkg_add -r pidgin-facebookchat and its ended up with following error.

eclipse# pkg_add -r pidgin-facebookchat
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/pidgin-facebookchat.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
pkg_add: unable to fetch '
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/pidgin-facebookchat.tbz'
by URL

then I tried to install with ports...

$cd /usr/ports/net-im/pidgin-facebookchat

$make

but the installation is failed and gave the following error message

eclipse# make
===> Building for pidgin-facebookchat-1.47
make -C /usr/ports/net-im/pidgin-facebookchat/work/pidgin-facebookchat
libfacebookbsd60.so
cc -I/usr/include/libpurple -I/usr/local/include/libpurple -DPURPLE_PLUGINS
-DENABLE_NLS -DNO_ZLIB -Wall -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -I. -g -O2 -pipe
libfacebook.h libfacebook.c fb_blist.h fb_blist.c fb_connection.h
fb_connection.c fb_info.h fb_info.c fb_managefriends.h
fb_managefriends.c fb_messages.h fb_messages.c fb_notifications.h
fb_notifications.c fb_search.h fb_search.c -o libfacebook.so -shared -fPIC
-DPIC
libfacebook.c: In function 'fb_login_cb':
libfacebook.c:213: warning: implicit declaration of function
'purple_connection_error_reason'
libfacebook.c:214: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_AUTHENTICATION_FAILED'
undeclared (first use in this function)
libfacebook.c:214: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
libfacebook.c:214: error: for each function it appears in.)
libfacebook.c: In function 'fb_login':
libfacebook.c:284: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_NO_SSL_SUPPORT'
undeclared (first use in this function)
libfacebook.c: At top level:
libfacebook.c:730: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer
without a cast
libfacebook.c:731: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
libfacebook.c:731: warning: (near initialization for 'prpl_info')
fb_blist.c: In function 'got_buddy_list_cb':
fb_blist.c:91: warning: implicit declaration of function
'purple_connection_error_reason'
fb_blist.c:92: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_NETWORK_ERROR' undeclared
(first use in this function)
fb_blist.c:92: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
fb_blist.c:92: error: for each function it appears in.)
fb_connection.c: In function 'fb_fatal_connection_cb':
fb_connection.c:186: warning: implicit declaration of function
'purple_connection_error_reason'
fb_connection.c:187: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_NETWORK_ERROR'
undeclared (first use in this function)
fb_connection.c:187: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
fb_connection.c:187: error: for each function it appears in.)
fb_connection.c: In function 'fb_ssl_connection_error':
fb_connection.c:414: warning: implicit declaration of function
'purple_connection_ssl_error'
fb_messages.c: In function 'fb_get_new_messages':
fb_messages.c:355: warning: format '%lu' expects type 'long unsigned int',
but argument 2 has type 'time_t'
fb_messages.c: In function 'fb_send_im_fom':
fb_messages.c:435: warning: format '%lu' expects type 'long unsigned int',
but argument 5 has type 'time_t'
fb_messages.c: In function 'got_form_id_page':
fb_messages.c:487: warning: implicit declaration of function
'purple_connection_error_reason'
fb_messages.c:488: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_AUTHENTICATION_FAILED'
undeclared (first use in this function)
fb_messages.c:488: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
fb_messages.c:488: error: for each function it appears in.)
fb_messages.c:518: error: 'PURPLE_CONNECTION_ERROR_NETWORK_ERROR' undeclared
(first use in this function)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/pidgin-facebookchat/work/pidgin-facebookchat.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/pidgin-facebookchat.

please help me to solve this prob

Thanx in advance..

Kunchana
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Reminder: Manchester BSD UG Tonight

2009-04-07T02:43:56Z

Just a quick reminder to you all,
A regular update, my monthly call:
Manchester BUG is on tonight!
In the beer garden, now its light?

I'm afraid to say for the first time in years,
I might not make it, but hold back your tears!
I'll do my best to meet you at seven,
As always, in the old Briton's Protection

Right now I'm sat here umming and ahh'ing
about doing some work or doing some calming.
Lancashire are playing, admission is free
but if I go, I'll have to work after tea!

I'm sure regardless, you'll all continue
to drink some ale and put crisps within you.
I might skive off, we'll have to see
but if I'm not there, don't get harsh with me!

Paul
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SF Bay Area Local FreeBSD user group resurrection scheduled for April

2009-03-27T09:55:51Z

The Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group (BAFUG -- Web site at www.bafug.org,
though it's been dormant for at least a couple of years) is about to
start meeting again -- finally.

I've asked my contact at Yahoo! (in Sunnyvale) to go ahead and set
up a room for a BAFUG meeting either first or second Thursday of
April (depending on what's available). I've suggested that we start
around 7 - 7:30 PM; again, actual start time will depend on what's
available.

A decade ago, BAFUG meetings involved pizza, but I don't know how
feasible that is at this point.

As (at least) some of you know, FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE is presently in code
freeze, so I'm anticipating that we can get some basic infrastructure in
place, and we can discuss things involving FreeBSD that folks find
sufficiently interesting.

I do not have plans for any formal presentation, though I'm not against
it per se. (I am aware that trying to ensure that there is one is a
major source of burnout on the part of the folks who run these things,
and I have no special desire to self-inflict that form of punishment.)

More details over on bafug.org as they become available.

Peace,
david
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Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil.

See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key.

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Reminder: Manchester BSD, tomorrow night

2009-03-02T04:48:04Z

Just a quick reminder that we will be meeting at the Briton's
Protection again tomorrow evening from around 7pm.

Will somebody please remind me to take that book I keep forgetting? :-)

Thanks, see you tomorrow hopefully,

Paul Robinson
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HotPar '09: Attendance Now Open to Everyone

2009-02-18T09:04:19Z

The First USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Parallelism will take place
March 30-31 in Berkeley, CA.
http://www.usenix.org/hotpar09/proga

HotPar '09 will bring together researchers and practitioners doing
innovative work in the area of parallel computing. HotPar recognizes the
broad impact of multicore computing and seeks relevant contributions
from all fields, including application design, languages and compilers,
systems, and architecture.

Attendance to the workshop is now open to the USENIX community.
To ensure a productive environment, it will be limited to 75 participants.
Register today to ensure your place.

This year's outstanding program includes a diverse range of hot research
areas including models and paradigms, operating systems and middleware,
transactional memory, and more.

Please join us at the Claremont Resort & Spa for this new workshop
covering the most innovative research in parallel computing. We look
forward to seeing you there.

Sincerely,

Alexandra Fedorova, Simon Fraser University
Jim Larus, Microsoft
HotPar '09 Program Co-Chairs
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March 30-31, 2009
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Tonight's Manchester BSD UG: Not in the Briton's!!

2009-02-03T02:11:05Z

Hi all,

Just a reminder that tonight is BSD UG night in Manchester, and as I
pointed out last week to the regular lists, we're not meeting at the
Briton's Protection this month.

Some of us (well, at least me) will be attending the Turing lecture
first, and then heading to the Sandbar for a bit of a change around 7pm.

If any of you who haven't been before want to come along, please feel
free.

Paul
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Diff Location for Next Week's Manchester BSD UG

2009-01-27T09:14:33Z

Please note that the Manchester BSD User Group next Tuesday has a
slightly different format.

Some of us are heading to the Turing Lecture beforehand:

http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/events/Turing/09-Brady-Michael/

Feel free to register even if you're not a student, staff or member of
the BCS.

We will then head to the Sandbar for the regular meeting at around
19:00, NOT the Briton's Protection. Sandbar used to be our regular
place to meet, but if people are confused about where they're heading
or can't find their way to Grosvenor Street (note Google maps lies
about the location of Sandbar, it's near the Deaf Institute), please
let me know and we'll talk you in. :-)

This is planned as a one-off, and we'll return to the Briton's
Protection in March.

Hope to see you all there,

Paul
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Manchester BSD UG: Feb?

2009-01-08T05:53:27Z

February's BSD UG has a clash with this year's Turing Lecture:

http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.23105

However the lecture finishes at about 19:30 so it means those wishing
to attend will be done early enough to still attend BSD UG up at the
Briton's Protection (it's about a 30-minute walk).

I intend to go to the Turing lecture myself (last year's was properly
mad-bonkers-wtf-you-on-about-mate-you-weird-idiot, and the year before
the most inspiring and thought-provoking lecture I've ever attended in
my life), and if anybody else wishes to attend, I'll see you there.

If enough regular BSD UG'ers are attending, we may choose to move the
venue for afterwards to somewhere nearer Roscoe building (Sand Bar?)
rather than have all of us trek the 2 miles up the road to Briton's.

I'd appreciate some feedback on the above in the next week or two! :-)
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