tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-3638Nabble - freeglut2009-12-05T10:37:31ZA free OpenGL utility toolkit, the open-sourced alternative to the GLUT library. freeglut home is <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeglut/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">here</a>.tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26658130Re: next fonts2009-12-05T10:37:31Z2009-12-05T10:37:31ZClive McCarthyI tend to agree. Layering attempts to update facilities on top of
<br>glDrawPixels, which is old-style OpenGL, seems a little like putting a new
<br>handle on a buggy whip. Font glyphs should ideally be texturized to be
<br>moderately up to date, but that would require freeglut to have some kind of
<br>interface to an RGBA image data structure and all of the facilities to
<br>texturize it.
<br><br>John Tsiombikas' suggestion of a demo might be the best.
<br><br>It does illustrate a general dilemma for freeglut. There are many features
<br>of OpenGL that have been introduced since glut began, some of which have
<br>been superseded by more advanced methods and then, yet more advanced methods
<br>have been introduced. Where to join in the stream, if at all?
<br><br>I think rendering fonts has roughly this historical trajectory:
<br><br>Bi-level glyphs:
<br> glBitmap()
<br>RGBA glyphs:
<br> glDrawPixels()
<br><br>RGBA, scalable, blendable, warpable, etc. glyphs:
<br> glBindTexture(GL_TEXTURE_2D, texture_ID);
<br> glTexParameteri(GL_TEXTURE_2D,
<br>GL_GENERATE_MIPMAP, GL_TRUE);
<br><br>And with GL3.1 the facility to automatically mipmap textures goes away ! All
<br>you have left is the facility to bind textures.
<br><br>Clive.
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<br>From: "Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26658130&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>>
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> My vote regarding the "freeglut" fonts would be not to mess with them
<br>> (beyond the question of yes or no on the dots on the stroke fonts) and
<br>> to point the application programmers towards "freetype" or PLIB's "fnt"
<br>> library.
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26658130&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
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<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> John, John T,
<br>> A very brief two-minute look suggests to me that to provide a hook for
<br>> user
<br>> provided bitmap fonts would require exposing the small structure
<br>> SGF_Font by
<br>> moving its definition from freeglut_internal.h to freeglut_ext.h and
<br>> creating a variant of glutBitmapCharacter that did not require a
<br>> pre-defined
<br>> font ID.
<br>>
<br>> The freeglut code ultimately calls glBitmap so the glyphs are, I think,
<br>> just
<br>> masked onto the background and there is no alpha blending (it's one bit
<br>> per
<br>> pixel). The good quality anti-aliasing done by freetype would go to
<br>> waste.
<br>> What would be preferable would be to use glDrawPixels instead of
<br>> glBitmap
<br>> for any external fonts.
<br>>
<br>> Clive.
<br>>
<br>> --------------------------------------------------
<br>> From: "John Tsiombikas" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26658130&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nuclear@...</a>>
<br>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:16 AM
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<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:26:59AM -0600, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC
<br>> 46
<br>>> SK wrote:
<br>>>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and
<br>> opentypefonts?
<br>>>
<br>>> Freetype is cross-platform.
<br>>> I could easily clean up some code I have for font rendering with
<br>>> freetype and add it to the demos if that's useful...
<br>>>
<br>>> --
<br>>> John Tsiombikas
<br>>> <a href="http://nuclear.sdf-eu.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://nuclear.sdf-eu.org/</a><br>>>
<br>>>
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<br>(beyond the question of yes or no on the dots on the stroke fonts) and
<br>to point the application programmers towards "freetype" or PLIB's "fnt"
<br>library.
<br><br>John F. Fay
<br>Technical Fellow
<br>Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>850-883-1294
<br><br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26657227&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>John, John T,
<br>A very brief two-minute look suggests to me that to provide a hook for
<br>user
<br>provided bitmap fonts would require exposing the small structure
<br>SGF_Font by
<br>moving its definition from freeglut_internal.h to freeglut_ext.h and
<br>creating a variant of glutBitmapCharacter that did not require a
<br>pre-defined
<br>font ID.
<br><br>The freeglut code ultimately calls glBitmap so the glyphs are, I think,
<br>just
<br>masked onto the background and there is no alpha blending (it's one bit
<br>per
<br>pixel). The good quality anti-aliasing done by freetype would go to
<br>waste.
<br>What would be preferable would be to use glDrawPixels instead of
<br>glBitmap
<br>for any external fonts.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br>--------------------------------------------------
<br>From: "John Tsiombikas" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26657227&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nuclear@...</a>>
<br>Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:16 AM
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:26:59AM -0600, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC
<br>46
<br>> SK wrote:
<br>>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>>
<br>>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and
<br>opentypefonts?
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> Freetype is cross-platform.
<br>> I could easily clean up some code I have for font rendering with
<br>> freetype and add it to the demos if that's useful...
<br>>
<br>> --
<br>> John Tsiombikas
<br>> <a href="http://nuclear.sdf-eu.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://nuclear.sdf-eu.org/</a><br>>
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<br>A very brief two-minute look suggests to me that to provide a hook for user
<br>provided bitmap fonts would require exposing the small structure SGF_Font by
<br>moving its definition from freeglut_internal.h to freeglut_ext.h and
<br>creating a variant of glutBitmapCharacter that did not require a pre-defined
<br>font ID.
<br><br>The freeglut code ultimately calls glBitmap so the glyphs are, I think, just
<br>masked onto the background and there is no alpha blending (it's one bit per
<br>pixel). The good quality anti-aliasing done by freetype would go to waste.
<br>What would be preferable would be to use glDrawPixels instead of glBitmap
<br>for any external fonts.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br>--------------------------------------------------
<br>From: "John Tsiombikas" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26656832&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">nuclear@...</a>>
<br>Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:16 AM
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:26:59AM -0600, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46
<br>> SK wrote:
<br>>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>>
<br>>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and opentypefonts?
<br>>
<br>> Freetype is cross-platform.
<br>> I could easily clean up some code I have for font rendering with
<br>> freetype and add it to the demos if that's useful...
<br>>
<br>> --
<br>> John Tsiombikas
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<br><br> As a first cut at improving the "#ifdef" muddle, I've
<br>revamped the "freeglut_cursor.c" file somewhat and put the changes
<br>into SVN. It is the simplest example and therefore, I think, worthy
<br>of experimentation. I've sequestered the conditionally-compiled code
<br>in one section at the top of the file; it's less drastic than
<br>splitting it into separate files and I'm not into drastic changes if
<br>I don't have to be. Also, as I say, this is experimental and I'd
<br>rather not create and delete files in SVN as part of an experiment.
<br><br> I don't know that the "factory design pattern" applies to
<br>the cursor code. I will need to go read the "Design Patterns" book, though.
<br><br> But all in all, let me know what you think. I am definitely
<br>open to other suggestions.
<br><br> - John
<br><br>At 10:02 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote:
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>John Tsiombikas wrote:
<br>> > Having said that, I think that at the moment the ifdef hell in the
<br>> > source code isn't very fertile ground for supporting multiple different
<br>> > ways of doing things (i.e. win32 and X and cocoa and the next big thing
<br>> > when it comes). I suggest that a big code reorganization would be more
<br>> > than beneficial to clean up the code. All plarform-specific parts
<br>> > should be separated into *different files* compiled conditionally and
<br>> > providing some common functionality to the rest of freeglut.
<br>>
<br>>Agreed. Something along the lines of a factory design pattern (though
<br>>I've been in C++ so long now that I don't know how to implement it in C,
<br>>except as described above). This would be much more maintainable.
<br>>
<br>>Not only would this help with platform specifics, but the same concept
<br>>could be used to divvy up the code by GL1/2 and GL3. There's a lot of
<br>>GL1/2-specific code in freeglut right now, and it'd be nice to have a
<br>>clean way to start implementing GL3 equivalents, or make some decisions
<br>>about what makes sense to support in GL3 at all.
<br>> -Paul
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<br><br> Revisiting the question of OSX support, are there any parts
<br>of Mr. Huddleston's patch (attached) that do not require an update to
<br>the libtools? We've already put in the change from "HAVE_ERRNO" to
<br>"HAVE_ERRNO_H".
<br><br> - John
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>Subject: Re: "freeglut" and OSX
<br>>From: Jeremy Huddleston <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26655971&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">jeremyhu@...</a>>
<br>>Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:55:35 -0800
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<br>>
<br>><snip> Here's a patch to fix some of the build system issues:
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
</div></div><br />Index: src/freeglut_input_devices.c
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_input_devices.c (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_input_devices.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -36,19 +36,15 @@
<br> #include "freeglut_internal.h"
<br>
<br> #if TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> #include <errno.h>
<br> #endif
<br> #include <sys/ioctl.h>
<br>-#include <sys/time.h>
<br>-#include <time.h>
<br> #include <stdio.h>
<br> #include <stdlib.h>
<br>-#include <unistd.h>
<br> #include <string.h>
<br> #include <termios.h>
<br> #include <fcntl.h>
<br>-#include <sys/types.h>
<br>
<br> typedef struct {
<br> int fd;
<br>Index: src/freeglut_init.c
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_init.c (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_init.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -29,6 +29,10 @@
<br> #include <GL/freeglut.h>
<br> #include "freeglut_internal.h"
<br>
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br>+# include <errno.h>
<br>+#endif
<br>+
<br> #if TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11
<br> #include <limits.h> /* LONG_MAX */
<br> #endif
<br>@@ -683,7 +687,7 @@
<br> /* will return true for VC8 (VC2005) and higher */
<br> #if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 )
<br> size_t sLen;
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> errno_t err;
<br> #endif
<br> #endif
<br>@@ -708,7 +712,7 @@
<br> #ifndef _WIN32_WCE
<br> {
<br> /* will return true for VC8 (VC2005) and higher */
<br>-#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> char* fps = NULL;
<br> err = _dupenv_s( &fps, &sLen, "GLUT_FPS" );
<br> if (err)
<br>@@ -727,13 +731,13 @@
<br> fgState.FPSInterval = interval;
<br> }
<br> /* will return true for VC8 (VC2005) and higher */
<br>-#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> free ( fps ); fps = NULL; /* dupenv_s allocates a string that we must free */
<br> #endif
<br> }
<br>
<br> /* will return true for VC8 (VC2005) and higher */
<br>-#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> err = _dupenv_s( &displayName, &sLen, "DISPLAY" );
<br> if (err)
<br> fgError("Error getting DISPLAY environment variable");
<br>@@ -825,7 +829,7 @@
<br> */
<br> fghInitialize( displayName );
<br> /* will return true for VC8 (VC2005) and higher */
<br>-#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && ( _MSC_VER >= 1400 ) && HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> free ( displayName ); displayName = NULL; /* dupenv_s allocates a string that we must free */
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>Index: src/freeglut_internal.h
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_internal.h (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_internal.h (working copy)
<br>@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@
<br> #ifndef FREEGLUT_INTERNAL_H
<br> #define FREEGLUT_INTERNAL_H
<br>
<br>-#if HAVE_CONFIG_H
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H
<br> # include "config.h"
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
<br> /* XXX: Don't all MS-Windows compilers (except Cygwin) have _WIN32 defined?
<br> * XXX: If so, remove the first set of defined()'s below.
<br> */
<br>+#if !defined(TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11) && !defined(TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS) && !defined(TARGET_HOST_MAC_OSX)
<br> #if defined(_MSC_VER) || defined(__WATCOMC__) || defined(__MINGW32__) \
<br> || defined(_WIN32) || defined(_WIN32_WCE) \
<br> || ( defined(__CYGWIN__) && defined(X_DISPLAY_MISSING) )
<br>@@ -58,6 +59,7 @@
<br> # error "Unrecognized target host!"
<br> */
<br> #endif
<br>+#endif
<br>
<br> /* Detect both SunPro and gcc compilers on Sun Solaris */
<br> #if defined (__SVR4) && defined (__sun)
<br>@@ -109,7 +111,7 @@
<br> # include <X11/Xatom.h>
<br> # include <X11/keysym.h>
<br> # include <X11/extensions/XInput.h>
<br>-# ifdef HAVE_X11_EXTENSIONS_XF86VMODE_H
<br>+# ifdef HAVE_XXF86VM
<br> # include <X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h>
<br> # endif
<br> /* If GLX is too old, we will fail during runtime when multisampling
<br>@@ -130,16 +132,16 @@
<br> #include <stdlib.h>
<br>
<br> /* These are included based on autoconf directives. */
<br>-#if HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H
<br> # include <sys/types.h>
<br> #endif
<br>-#if HAVE_UNISTD_H
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_UNISTD_H
<br> # include <unistd.h>
<br> #endif
<br>-#if TIME_WITH_SYS_TIME
<br>+#ifdef TIME_WITH_SYS_TIME
<br> # include <sys/time.h>
<br> # include <time.h>
<br>-#elif HAVE_SYS_TIME_H
<br>+#elif defined(HAVE_SYS_TIME_H)
<br> # include <sys/time.h>
<br> #else
<br> # include <time.h>
<br>@@ -159,15 +161,6 @@
<br> # endif
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>-#if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS
<br>-# define HAVE_VPRINTF 1
<br>-#endif
<br>-
<br>-#if !defined(HAVE_VPRINTF) && !defined(HAVE_DOPRNT)
<br>-/* XXX warning directive here? */
<br>-# define HAVE_VPRINTF 1
<br>-#endif
<br>-
<br> /* MinGW may lack a prototype for ChangeDisplaySettingsEx() (depending on the version?) */
<br> #if TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS && !defined(ChangeDisplaySettingsEx)
<br> LONG WINAPI ChangeDisplaySettingsExA(LPCSTR,LPDEVMODEA,HWND,DWORD,LPVOID);
<br>@@ -189,14 +182,23 @@
<br> # define M_PI 3.14159265358979323846
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>-#ifndef TRUE
<br>-# define TRUE 1
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_STDBOOL_H
<br>+# include <stdbool.h>
<br>+# ifndef TRUE
<br>+# define TRUE true
<br>+# endif
<br>+# ifndef FALSE
<br>+# define FALSE false
<br>+# endif
<br>+#else
<br>+# ifndef TRUE
<br>+# define TRUE 1
<br>+# endif
<br>+# ifndef FALSE
<br>+# define FALSE 0
<br>+# endif
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>-#ifndef FALSE
<br>-# define FALSE 0
<br>-#endif
<br>-
<br> /* General defines */
<br>
<br> #define INVALID_MODIFIERS 0xffffffff
<br>Index: src/freeglut_main.c
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_main.c (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_main.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -27,13 +27,13 @@
<br>
<br> #include <GL/freeglut.h>
<br> #include "freeglut_internal.h"
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> # include <errno.h>
<br> #endif
<br> #include <stdarg.h>
<br>-#if HAVE_VPRINTF
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_VFPRINTF
<br> # define VFPRINTF(s,f,a) vfprintf((s),(f),(a))
<br>-#elif HAVE_DOPRNT
<br>+#elif defined(HAVE__DOPRNT)
<br> # define VFPRINTF(s,f,a) _doprnt((f),(a),(s))
<br> #else
<br> # define VFPRINTF(s,f,a)
<br>@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@
<br> * Try to get the maximum value allowed for ints, falling back to the minimum
<br> * guaranteed by ISO C99 if there is no suitable header.
<br> */
<br>-#if HAVE_LIMITS_H
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_LIMITS_H
<br> # include <limits.h>
<br> #endif
<br> #ifndef INT_MAX
<br>@@ -473,7 +473,7 @@
<br> wait.tv_usec = (msec % 1000) * 1000;
<br> err = select( socket+1, &fdset, NULL, NULL, &wait );
<br>
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> if( ( -1 == err ) && ( errno != EINTR ) )
<br> fgWarning ( "freeglut select() error: %d", errno );
<br> #endif
<br>Index: src/Makefile.am
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/Makefile.am (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/Makefile.am (working copy)
<br>@@ -43,9 +43,9 @@
<br> #
<br> # Additional linker flags
<br> #
<br>-lib@LIBRARY@_la_LIBADD = $(LIBM) $(X_LIBS) $(GL_LIBS) $(LIBXXF86VM) $(LIBXI)
<br>+lib@LIBRARY@_la_LIBADD = $(GL_LIBS) $(X_LIBS) $(LIBM)
<br> lib@LIBRARY@_la_LDFLAGS = $(VERSION_INFO) -no-undefined
<br>-lib@LIBRARY@_la_CFLAGS = $(X_CFLAGS) $(EXPORT_FLAGS)
<br>+lib@LIBRARY@_la_CFLAGS = $(GL_FLAGS) $(X_CFLAGS) $(EXPORT_FLAGS)
<br> lib@LIBRARY@_la_CPPFLAGS= -I$(top_srcdir)/include
<br>
<br> #
<br>Index: src/freeglut_joystick.c
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_joystick.c (revision 851)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_joystick.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
<br>
<br> #include <GL/freeglut.h>
<br> #include "freeglut_internal.h"
<br>-#if HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H
<br> # include <sys/param.h>
<br> #endif
<br>
<br>@@ -69,14 +69,15 @@
<br>
<br> #if TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11
<br> # define _JS_MAX_AXES 16
<br>-# if HAVE_SYS_IOCTL_H
<br>+# ifdef HAVE_SYS_IOCTL_H
<br> # include <sys/ioctl.h>
<br> # endif
<br>-# if HAVE_FCNTL_H
<br>+# ifdef HAVE_FCNTL_H
<br> # include <fcntl.h>
<br> # endif
<br>-# if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+# ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> # include <errno.h>
<br>+# include <string.h>
<br> # endif
<br> # if defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__NetBSD__)
<br> /* XXX The below hack is done until freeglut's autoconf is updated. */
<br>@@ -240,7 +241,7 @@
<br> if (cp)
<br> return 1;
<br> }
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> else if (errno == EACCES) {
<br> if (!protection_warned) {
<br> fgWarning ( "Can't open %s for read!", buf );
<br>@@ -265,7 +266,7 @@
<br>
<br> if ( ( rd = hid_get_report_desc( os->fd ) ) == 0 )
<br> {
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> fgWarning ( "error: %s: %s", os->fname, strerror( errno ) );
<br> #else
<br> fgWarning ( "error: %s", os->fname );
<br>@@ -279,7 +280,7 @@
<br> if( ioctl( os->fd, USB_GET_REPORT_ID, &report_id ) < 0)
<br> {
<br> /*** XXX {report_id} may not be the right variable? ***/
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> fgWarning ( "error: %s%d: %s", UHIDDEV, report_id, strerror( errno ) );
<br> #else
<br> fgWarning ( "error: %s%d", UHIDDEV, report_id );
<br>@@ -676,7 +677,7 @@
<br> }
<br> }
<br> }
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> if ( len < 0 && errno != EAGAIN )
<br> #else
<br> if ( len < 0 )
<br>@@ -699,7 +700,7 @@
<br>
<br> if ( status != sizeof( struct js_event ) )
<br> {
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> if ( errno == EAGAIN )
<br> {
<br> /* Use the old values */
<br>@@ -1317,7 +1318,7 @@
<br>
<br> joy->os->fd = open( joy->os->fname, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);
<br>
<br>-#if HAVE_ERRNO
<br>+#ifdef HAVE_ERRNO_H
<br> if( joy->os->fd < 0 && errno == EACCES )
<br> fgWarning ( "%s exists but is not readable by you", joy->os->fname );
<br> #endif
<br>Index: configure.ac
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- configure.ac (revision 851)
<br>+++ configure.ac (working copy)
<br>@@ -1,63 +1,70 @@
<br> # Process this file with autoconf to produce a configure script.
<br>
<br>-AC_INIT([freeglut library], [2.6.0], [<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26655971&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">freeglut-bugs@...</a>], [freeglut])
<br>-AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
<br>-AC_PREREQ([2.56])
<br>+AC_INIT([freeglut library],[2.6.0],[<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26655971&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">freeglut-bugs@...</a>],[freeglut])
<br>+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([dist-bzip2 foreign])
<br>+AC_PREREQ(2.64)
<br> AC_CONFIG_SRCDIR([AUTHORS])
<br> AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h])
<br>
<br> # Compatibility hack for older autoconf versions
<br>-m4_ifdef([AS_HELP_STRING], [], [AC_DEFUN([AS_HELP_STRING], [AC_HELP_STRING($][@)])])
<br>+m4_ifdef([AS_HELP_STRING], [], [AC_DEFUN([AS_HELP_STRING], [AS_HELP_STRING([$@])])])
<br>
<br> # Checks for programs.
<br> AC_PROG_CC
<br> AM_PROG_CC_C_O
<br> AC_C_CONST
<br> AC_EXEEXT
<br>-AC_LIBTOOL_DLOPEN
<br>-AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
<br>+PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG
<br>+
<br>+LT_INIT([dlopen])
<br> AC_SUBST([LIBTOOL_DEPS])
<br>
<br>-# Checks for libraries.
<br>-AC_PATH_XTRA
<br>+case $host_os in
<br>+ cygwin*)
<br>+ GL_LIBS="-lopengl32 -lgdi32 -lwinmm"
<br>+ VERSION_INFO=
<br>+ EXPORT_FLAGS="-DFREEGLUT_EXPORTS"
<br>+ AC_DEFINE(TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS, 1, [Building for an MS Windows environment])
<br>+ ;;
<br>+ *)
<br>+ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GL, gl)
<br>+ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(X, xext x11 xi)
<br>+ PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XXF86VM, xxf86vm,
<br>+ AC_DEFINE(HAVE_XXF86VM, 1, [xxf86vm extension is available]),
<br>+ []])
<br>+ AC_DEFINE(TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11, 1, [Building for an X11 environment])
<br>+ VERSION_INFO="-version-info 12:0:9"
<br>+ EXPORT_FLAGS=
<br>+ ;;
<br>+esac
<br>
<br>-if test x"$no_x" = xyes; then
<br>- GL_LIBS="-lopengl32 -lgdi32 -lwinmm"
<br>- LIBXXF86VM=
<br>- LIBXI=
<br>- VERSION_INFO=
<br>- EXPORT_FLAGS="-DFREEGLUT_EXPORTS"
<br>-else
<br>- GL_LIBS="-lGL -lXext -lX11"
<br>- AC_CHECK_LIB([Xxf86vm], [XF86VidModeSwitchToMode],
<br>- [LIBXXF86VM=-lXxf86vm], [LIBXXF86VM=],
<br>- [$X_LIBS -lXext -lX11])
<br>- LIBXI=-lXi
<br>- VERSION_INFO="-version-info 12:0:9"
<br>- EXPORT_FLAGS=
<br>-fi
<br>+# ??
<br>+#case $host_os in
<br>+# *solaris*)
<br>+# AC_DEFINE(TARGET_HOST_SOLARIS, 1, [Building for a Solaris environment])
<br>+# AC_DEFINE(TARGET_HOST_POSIX_X11, 1, [Building for an X11 environment])
<br>+# ;;
<br>+#esac
<br>+
<br>+AC_SUBST([GL_CFLAGS])
<br> AC_SUBST([GL_LIBS])
<br>-AC_SUBST([LIBXXF86VM])
<br>-AC_SUBST([LIBXI])
<br>+AC_SUBST([X_CFLAGS])
<br>+AC_SUBST([X_LIBS])
<br>+AC_SUBST([XXF86VM_CFLAGS])
<br>+AC_SUBST([XXF86VM_LIBS])
<br> AC_SUBST([VERSION_INFO])
<br> AC_SUBST([EXPORT_FLAGS])
<br>
<br> # Checks for header files.
<br> AC_HEADER_STDC
<br>-save_CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS"
<br>-CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS $X_CFLAGS"
<br>-AC_CHECK_HEADERS([GL/gl.h GL/glu.h GL/glx.h fcntl.h limits.h sys/ioctl.h sys/param.h sys/time.h])
<br>+AC_CHECK_HEADERS([errno.h fcntl.h limits.h stdbool.h sys/ioctl.h sys/param.h sys/time.h usbhid.h])
<br> AC_HEADER_TIME
<br>-AC_CHECK_HEADERS([X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h], [], [], [#include <X11/Xlib.h>])
<br>-AC_CHECK_HEADERS([X11/extensions/XI.h X11/extensions/XInput.h])
<br>-CPPFLAGS="$save_CPPFLAGS"
<br>
<br> # Checks for library functions.
<br> AC_PROG_GCC_TRADITIONAL
<br>-AC_FUNC_VPRINTF
<br>-AC_CHECK_LIBM
<br>+LT_LIB_M
<br> AC_SUBST([LIBM])
<br>-AC_CHECK_FUNCS([gettimeofday])
<br>+AC_CHECK_FUNCS([gettimeofday vfprintf _doprnt])
<br>
<br> # Build time configuration.
<br> AC_ARG_ENABLE([replace-glut],
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<br><br> - John
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:58:28 -0600
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<br>>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>>Yes, sorry to have misspelled your name there. Clive sent me the
<br>>errant screen shots which I have reduced in size and produce
<br>>here. I think another part of the matter is how much the characters
<br>>are expanded.
<br>>
<br>> - John
<br>>
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<br>>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>>Yes, sorry to have misspelled your name there. Clive sent me the
<br>>errant screen shots which I have reduced in size and produce here
<br>>and in a succeeding missive. I think another part of the matter is
<br>>how much the characters are expanded.
<br>>
<br>> - John
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>At 12:50 AM 12/4/2009, you wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> > Yes; a quick "svn blame" search reveals that somebody named
<br>>> "fayjf" put the
<br>>> > lines in as part of revision 825. (Who let that guy in here, anyway?)
<br>>> > Here's the log message:
<br>>> > <quote>
<br>>> > Improving the stroke fonts per e-mail from Fliran Echtler dated
<br>>> Sun 5/31/2009
<br>>> > 3:56 AM
<br>>> > </quote>
<br>>>Yes, that's me who is ultimately to blame. It's obviously a clear case of
<br>>>"it depends" - on the three machines I tried, the dots helped quite a lot
<br>>>with the appearance of the stroke fonts, as those OpenGL implementations
<br>>>supported antialiased dots. I can understand that it's probably looking
<br>>>quite crappy with square, unaliased dots. So maybe it's best to add
<br>>>another option to glutSetOption?
<br>>>
<br>>>As this topic has come up, another question comes to my mind: would stroke
<br>>>fonts as they are now still work with pure OpenGL 3? IIRC this does away
<br>>>with separate lines, points and so on and requires everything to be
<br>>>rendered as polygons anyway..
<br>>>
<br>>>Florian
<br>>>--
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<br>>>grey just above the pitch-black of the infinite depths of the _abyss_."
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<br>the font ID passed in is not one that comes with "freeglut", you get
<br>a warning message and nothing else.
<br><br>Further remembering brings back that (I think) we discussed allowing
<br>the user to pass in his own font through the void pointer but that in
<br>the end we decided not to. The present code in "freeglut_std.h"
<br>around line 200 had something to do with the decision--the fact that
<br>in Windows the font ID was simply a number cast to a void pointer.
<br><br> - John
<br><br><br>At 11:35 AM 12/4/2009, you wrote:
<br><br>>If I remember correctly, there is a way to define your own font
<br>>structure and pass it in to "freeglut" to use. I'll have to take a look
<br>>at it at home this weekend.
<br>>
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<br><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer</a><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/freeglut-developer-f3641.html" embed="fixTarget[3641]" target="_top" >freeglut-developer</a></p>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26646179Re: freeglut hook to freetype2009-12-04T09:35:47Z2009-12-04T09:35:47ZFay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SKIf I remember correctly, there is a way to define your own font
<br>structure and pass it in to "freeglut" to use. I'll have to take a look
<br>at it at home this weekend.
<br><br>John F. Fay
<br>Technical Fellow
<br>Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>850-883-1294
<br><br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:28 AM
<br>To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] freeglut hook to freetype
<br><br>I think freetype is available across a wide set of platforms. I have it
<br>working on both Linux Ubuntu & Windows XP.
<br><br>As a library, it does the task of taking outline fonts, in just about
<br>all
<br>the standard forms they come in, and generates an anti-aliased bitmap of
<br>a
<br>size determined by the caller. I got started with freetype after reading
<br>the
<br>NeHe lesson #43. Unfortunately (for me) the NeHe code is C++ and is also
<br>out
<br>of date (it isn't for freetype2). I also read that Blizzard
<br>Entertainment
<br>used the package and I had this confirmed by a friend who works there.
<br>All
<br>of this convinced me that freetype was the path forward. I wrote my own
<br>interface and it went VERY smoothly.
<br><br>The native bitmap fonts in freeglut are limited and not readily
<br>scalable. If
<br>freeglut had a mechanism to switch its source of bitmap data from the
<br>internal data to an external set then a user could use the freeglut
<br>interface but with an external typeface created by freetype from otf and
<br>ttf
<br>files. I think this is the best thing to do, because it retains the well
<br><br>established freeglut interface but opens up the facilities for almost
<br>any
<br>font.
<br><br>Here's the downside: bitmaps are history -- they can be slapped on the
<br>screen but you can't do much else (such as scale, rotate or warp). They
<br>obviously go away with GL3.1 but then so does almost everything else!
<br>Drawing lines and points are gone too, so all the stroke font code uses
<br>deprecated OpenGL calls.
<br><br>In my own system (which isn't at all GL3.1 compliant) I render the
<br>typeface
<br>glyphs as textures. I can then use all the texture mapping facilities
<br>with
<br>text. I can't recite the exact history but I think Glut got its start
<br>well
<br>before textures, and texture mapping were widely available so it doesn't
<br><br>have any natural interface for the use of textures.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------
<br>From: "Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>>
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>
<br>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and
<br>opentypefonts?
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">dcnieho@...</a>]
<br>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> Just to second this, a demo program would be very nice, demo programs
<br>> don't necessarily only have to depend on freeglut, more advance use
<br>> might require other libraries also. I would be interested in this demo
<br>> for one (if applicable to windows).
<br>>
<br>> Best,
<br>> Dee
<br>>
<br>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK
<br>> <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> Clive,
<br>>>
<br>>> Is there anything that "freeglut" should do to make supporting
<br>>> the truetypefonts or opentypefonts easier? I certainly don't propose
</div>to
<br>>> integrate them into the library but if there needs to be some
<br>parameter
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> setting (for example) I could easily see my way to incorporating it.
<br>>>
<br>>> Perhaps a demo program using both libraries would be in order.
<br>>>
<br>>> John F. Fay
<br>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>
<br>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=5" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:34 PM
<br>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>> Chris,
<br>>> Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts
<br>>> [otf]
<br>>> but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br>>> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>>> I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work
</div>system.
<br>>> I
<br>>> already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated
<br>by
<br>>>
<br>>> freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all
<br>the
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> fonts imaginable.
<br>>> Clive.
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> --------------------------------------------------
<br>>> From: "Chris Marshall" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=6" target="_top" rel="nofollow">chm@...</a>>
<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:57 PM
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<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
<br>>> "freeglut_font.c"
<br>>>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes
</div>for
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> John F. Fay
<br>>>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646179&i=8" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
<br>>> the
<br>>>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
<br>>> that
<br>>>>> the
<br>>>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>>>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>>>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>>>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>>>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>>>
<br>>>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
<br>>> which is
<br>>>>> really good.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>>>> roll your own?
<br>>>>
<br>>>> --Chris
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>
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<br><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer</a><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/freeglut-developer-f3641.html" embed="fixTarget[3641]" target="_top" >freeglut-developer</a></p>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26646061Re: freeglut hook to freetype2009-12-04T09:28:22Z2009-12-04T09:28:22ZClive McCarthyI think freetype is available across a wide set of platforms. I have it
<br>working on both Linux Ubuntu & Windows XP.
<br><br>As a library, it does the task of taking outline fonts, in just about all
<br>the standard forms they come in, and generates an anti-aliased bitmap of a
<br>size determined by the caller. I got started with freetype after reading the
<br>NeHe lesson #43. Unfortunately (for me) the NeHe code is C++ and is also out
<br>of date (it isn't for freetype2). I also read that Blizzard Entertainment
<br>used the package and I had this confirmed by a friend who works there. All
<br>of this convinced me that freetype was the path forward. I wrote my own
<br>interface and it went VERY smoothly.
<br><br>The native bitmap fonts in freeglut are limited and not readily scalable. If
<br>freeglut had a mechanism to switch its source of bitmap data from the
<br>internal data to an external set then a user could use the freeglut
<br>interface but with an external typeface created by freetype from otf and ttf
<br>files. I think this is the best thing to do, because it retains the well
<br>established freeglut interface but opens up the facilities for almost any
<br>font.
<br><br>Here's the downside: bitmaps are history -- they can be slapped on the
<br>screen but you can't do much else (such as scale, rotate or warp). They
<br>obviously go away with GL3.1 but then so does almost everything else!
<br>Drawing lines and points are gone too, so all the stroke font code uses
<br>deprecated OpenGL calls.
<br><br>In my own system (which isn't at all GL3.1 compliant) I render the typeface
<br>glyphs as textures. I can then use all the texture mapping facilities with
<br>text. I can't recite the exact history but I think Glut got its start well
<br>before textures, and texture mapping were widely available so it doesn't
<br>have any natural interface for the use of textures.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------
<br>From: "Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>>
<br>Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:26 AM
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>
<br>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and opentypefonts?
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">dcnieho@...</a>]
<br>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> Just to second this, a demo program would be very nice, demo programs
<br>> don't necessarily only have to depend on freeglut, more advance use
<br>> might require other libraries also. I would be interested in this demo
<br>> for one (if applicable to windows).
<br>>
<br>> Best,
<br>> Dee
<br>>
<br>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK
<br>> <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> Clive,
<br>>>
<br>>> Is there anything that "freeglut" should do to make supporting
<br>>> the truetypefonts or opentypefonts easier? I certainly don't propose to
<br>>> integrate them into the library but if there needs to be some parameter
<br>>> setting (for example) I could easily see my way to incorporating it.
<br>>>
<br>>> Perhaps a demo program using both libraries would be in order.
<br>>>
<br>>> John F. Fay
<br>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>
<br>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:34 PM
<br>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>> Chris,
<br>>> Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts
<br>>> [otf]
<br>>> but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br>>> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>>> I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work system.
<br>>> I
<br>>> already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated by
<br>>>
<br>>> freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all the
<br>>> fonts imaginable.
<br>>> Clive.
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> --------------------------------------------------
<br>>> From: "Chris Marshall" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=5" target="_top" rel="nofollow">chm@...</a>>
<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:57 PM
<br>>> To: "FreeGLUT developers list"
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<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
<br>>> "freeglut_font.c"
<br>>>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>>>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> John F. Fay
<br>>>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26646061&i=7" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>>>
<br>>>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
<br>>> the
<br>>>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
<br>>> that
<br>>>>> the
<br>>>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>>>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>>>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>>>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>>>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>>>
<br>>>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
<br>>> which is
<br>>>>> really good.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>>>> roll your own?
<br>>>>
<br>>>> --Chris
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
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<br>> I had forgotten about the multiplatform support.
<br>>
<br>> Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and opentypefonts?
<br><br>Freetype is cross-platform.
<br>I could easily clean up some code I have for font rendering with
<br>freetype and add it to the demos if that's useful...
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<br><br>Are there Windows and OSX libraries for truetypefonts and opentypefonts?
<br><br>John F. Fay
<br>Technical Fellow
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<br>850-883-1294
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<br>From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644153&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">dcnieho@...</a>]
<br>Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>Just to second this, a demo program would be very nice, demo programs
<br>don't necessarily only have to depend on freeglut, more advance use
<br>might require other libraries also. I would be interested in this demo
<br>for one (if applicable to windows).
<br><br>Best,
<br>Dee
<br><br>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK
<br><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644153&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Clive,
<br>>
<br>> Is there anything that "freeglut" should do to make supporting
<br>> the truetypefonts or opentypefonts easier? I certainly don't propose to
<br>> integrate them into the library but if there needs to be some parameter
<br>> setting (for example) I could easily see my way to incorporating it.
<br>>
<br>> Perhaps a demo program using both libraries would be in order.
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644153&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:34 PM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> Chris,
<br>> Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts
<br>> [otf]
<br>> but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br>> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>> I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work system.
<br>> I
<br>> already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated by
<br>>
<br>> freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all the
<br>> fonts imaginable.
<br>> Clive.
<br>>
<br>>
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<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
<br>> "freeglut_font.c"
<br>>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>>
<br>>>> John F. Fay
<br>>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>>
<br>>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644153&i=5" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>>
<br>>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
<br>> the
<br>>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
<br>> that
<br>>>> the
<br>>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>>
<br>>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>>
<br>>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
<br>> which is
<br>>>> really good.
<br>>>
<br>>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>>> roll your own?
<br>>>
<br>>> --Chris
<br>>>
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<br>give it "true" or "false" values.
<br><br>John F. Fay
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<br>From: Florian Echtler [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644088&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">floe@...</a>]
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<br><br>> Yes; a quick "svn blame" search reveals that somebody named "fayjf"
<br>put the
<br>> lines in as part of revision 825. (Who let that guy in here, anyway?)
<br><br>> Here's the log message:
<br>> <quote>
<br>> Improving the stroke fonts per e-mail from Fliran Echtler dated Sun
<br>5/31/2009
<br>> 3:56 AM
<br>> </quote>
<br>Yes, that's me who is ultimately to blame. It's obviously a clear case
<br>of
<br>"it depends" - on the three machines I tried, the dots helped quite a
<br>lot
<br>with the appearance of the stroke fonts, as those OpenGL implementations
<br><br>supported antialiased dots. I can understand that it's probably looking
<br>quite crappy with square, unaliased dots. So maybe it's best to add
<br>another option to glutSetOption?
<br><br>As this topic has come up, another question comes to my mind: would
<br>stroke
<br>fonts as they are now still work with pure OpenGL 3? IIRC this does away
<br><br>with separate lines, points and so on and requires everything to be
<br>rendered as polygons anyway..
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<br>don't necessarily only have to depend on freeglut, more advance use
<br>might require other libraries also. I would be interested in this demo
<br>for one (if applicable to windows).
<br><br>Best,
<br>Dee
<br><br>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK
<br><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644066&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">john.fay.ctr@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Clive,
<br>>
<br>> Is there anything that "freeglut" should do to make supporting
<br>> the truetypefonts or opentypefonts easier? I certainly don't propose to
<br>> integrate them into the library but if there needs to be some parameter
<br>> setting (for example) I could easily see my way to incorporating it.
<br>>
<br>> Perhaps a demo program using both libraries would be in order.
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644066&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:34 PM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> Chris,
<br>> Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts
<br>> [otf]
<br>> but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br>> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>> I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work system.
<br>> I
<br>> already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated by
<br>>
<br>> freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all the
<br>> fonts imaginable.
<br>> Clive.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> --------------------------------------------------
<br>> From: "Chris Marshall" <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644066&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">chm@...</a>>
<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:57 PM
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<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
<br>> "freeglut_font.c"
<br>>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>>
<br>>>> John F. Fay
<br>>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>>
<br>>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26644066&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>>
<br>>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
<br>> the
<br>>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
<br>> that
<br>>>> the
<br>>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>>
<br>>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>>
<br>>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
<br>> which is
<br>>>> really good.
<br>>>
<br>>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>>> roll your own?
<br>>>
<br>>> --Chris
<br>>>
<br>>>
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<br><br> Is there anything that "freeglut" should do to make supporting
<br>the truetypefonts or opentypefonts easier? I certainly don't propose to
<br>integrate them into the library but if there needs to be some parameter
<br>setting (for example) I could easily see my way to incorporating it.
<br><br> Perhaps a demo program using both libraries would be in order.
<br><br>John F. Fay
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<br>850-883-1294
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<br>Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:34 PM
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>Chris,
<br>Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts
<br>[otf]
<br>but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work system.
<br>I
<br>already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated by
<br><br>freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all the
<br>fonts imaginable.
<br>Clive.
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
<br>"freeglut_font.c"
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>
<br>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>
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<br>>> Technical Fellow
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<br>>>
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<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
</div>the
<br>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
<br>that
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> the
<br>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>
<br>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>
<br>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
</div>which is
<br>>> really good.
<br>>
<br>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>> roll your own?
<br>>
<br>> --Chris
<br>>
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<br>> lines in as part of revision 825. (Who let that guy in here, anyway?)
<br>> Here's the log message:
<br>> <quote>
<br>> Improving the stroke fonts per e-mail from Fliran Echtler dated Sun 5/31/2009
<br>> 3:56 AM
<br>> </quote>
<br>Yes, that's me who is ultimately to blame. It's obviously a clear case of
<br>"it depends" - on the three machines I tried, the dots helped quite a lot
<br>with the appearance of the stroke fonts, as those OpenGL implementations
<br>supported antialiased dots. I can understand that it's probably looking
<br>quite crappy with square, unaliased dots. So maybe it's best to add
<br>another option to glutSetOption?
<br><br>As this topic has come up, another question comes to my mind: would stroke
<br>fonts as they are now still work with pure OpenGL 3? IIRC this does away
<br>with separate lines, points and so on and requires everything to be
<br>rendered as polygons anyway..
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<br>If you let folks see the 'blocked' message with the images it may help
<br>decide what's best. There is likely a fix that gives the desired improvement
<br>if the POINTS size is the same as the LINE_WIDTH. I tried to do this by
<br>setting things outside freeglut calls but it didn't work.
<br>Clive.
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<br>Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:44 PM
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<br><br><br>Yes; a quick "svn blame" search reveals that somebody named "fayjf" put the
<br>lines in as part of revision 825. (Who let that guy in here, anyway?)
<br>Here's the log message:
<br><quote>
<br><br>Improving the stroke fonts per e-mail from Fliran Echtler dated Sun
<br>5/31/2009 3:56 AM
<br><br></quote>
<br><br> - John
<br><br><br>At 07:57 PM 12/3/2009, you wrote:
<br><br><br>Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of "freeglut_font.c"
<br>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>
<br>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
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<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
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<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve the
<br>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears that the
<br>> cure is worse than the disease.
</div><br>According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br><br>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype, which is
<br>> really good.
<br><br>I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>roll your own?
<br><br>--Chris
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<br><br>They look good to me.
<br><br>very minor: in help.php you changed "issue the following command at
<br>your" into the plural "issue the following commands at your". As its
<br>only one command, it should be singular.
<br><br>Good to go!
<br><br>Dee
<br><br>On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:10 PM, John F. Fay <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26637668&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">johnffay@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Dee,
<br>>
<br>> Many thanks for the reminder. I'm doing this one step at a time.
<br>>
<br>> Do the web pages as given in the
<br>> "web-src" directory look correct? I've been
<br>> fat-fingering in the changes and am concerned about typos.
<br>>
<br>> - John
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> At 09:49 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:
<br>>>Hi John,
<br>>>
<br>>>Good you got that working. I do see however that you didn't use the
<br>>>changes I and Martin made to the website, see the attached patches and
<br>>>the thread "[Freeglut-developer] Getting to the Web Source".
<br>>>
<br>>>Best,
<br>>>Dee
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>>On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, John F. Fay <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26637668&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">johnffay@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> > Gentlemen,
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Â Â Â Â I am pleased to report that I have successfully updated the
<br>>> > "freeglut" web page. Â My thanks go to Florian Echtler and Steve Baker
<br>>> > for their considerable help.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Â Â Â Â Now let the real work begin. Â We
<br>>> have finally reached "square one,"
<br>>> > the usual starting point.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â - John
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<body>
Yes; a quick "svn blame" search reveals that somebody named
"fayjf" put the lines in as part of revision 825. (Who
let that guy in here, anyway?) Here's the log message:<br>
<quote><br>
<pre>Improving the stroke fonts per e-mail from Fliran Echtler dated Sun
5/31/2009 3:56 AM
</pre></quote><br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>-
John<br><br>
<br>
At 07:57 PM 12/3/2009, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46
SK wrote:<br>
> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of
"freeglut_font.c"<br>
> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.<br>
> <br>
> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive
votes for<br>
> the older version; anybody else care?<br>
> <br>
> John F. Fay<br>
> Technical Fellow<br>
> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group<br>
> 850-883-1294 <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Clive McCarthy
[<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26637497&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>] <br>
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM<br>
> To: FreeGLUT developers list<br>
> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots<br>
> <br>
> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve
the<br>
> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears
that the<br>
> cure is worse than the disease.<br><br>
According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so<br>
the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the
stroke<br>
fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality.
Maybe<br>
the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever<br>
allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.<br><br>
> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts
are<br>
> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype,
which is<br>
> really good.<br><br>
I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you<br>
roll your own?<br><br>
--Chris<br><br>
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<br>Freeglut itself doesn't support truetypefonts [ttf] or opentypefonts [otf]
<br>but the freetype package does a wonderful job.
<br> <a href="http://www.freetype.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetype.org/</a><br>I wrote a small module to integrate it into my freeglut art work system. I
<br>already had an image texture tiling mechanism so the glyphs generated by
<br>freetype fit into my system very nicely. It instantly opened up all the
<br>fonts imaginable.
<br>Clive.
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC 46 SK wrote:
<br>>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of "freeglut_font.c"
<br>>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>>
<br>>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>>
<br>>> John F. Fay
<br>>> Technical Fellow
<br>>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>>> 850-883-1294
<br>>>
<br>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26637439&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>>
<br>>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve the
<br>>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears that
<br>>> the
<br>>> cure is worse than the disease.
<br>>
<br>> According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>> the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>> fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>> the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>> allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br>>
<br>>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype, which is
<br>>> really good.
<br>>
<br>> I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>> roll your own?
<br>>
<br>> --Chris
<br>>
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I believe you can find the culprit around line 260 of "freeglut_font.c"
<br>> by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br>>
<br>> The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>> the older version; anybody else care?
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay
<br>> Technical Fellow
<br>> Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>> 850-883-1294
<br>>
<br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: Clive McCarthy [mailto:<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26636723&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">CliveMcCarthy@...</a>]
<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>> To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br>>
<br>> My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve the
<br>> look of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears that the
<br>> cure is worse than the disease.
</div><br>According to my diff, the code was the same in 2.4.0 and 2.6.0rc1 so
<br>the modification was pretty recent. I don't haven't used the stroke
<br>fonts so much in my projects so I can't speak to the quality. Maybe
<br>the GL_POINTS works better if antialiasing is enabled or whatever
<br>allows round, floating point diameter dots for points.
<br><br>> I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>> pretty lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype, which is
<br>> really good.
<br><br>I did not know that FreeGLUT supported freetype fonts or do you
<br>roll your own?
<br><br>--Chris
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<br>This explains why I'm having so much difficulty putting together a MinGW
<br>build environment for 2.6.0
<br>So it would be useful for me.
<br>Clive.
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<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Buidling freeglut-2.6.0-rc1 with mingw32
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hi John,
<br>>
<br>> John F. Fay wrote:
<br>>> Has all of this been recorded in the "README.cygwin_mingw" file? If
<br>>> not, would it be possible to add it there?
<br>>
<br>> This thread relates to the native Windows version of MinGW, whereas the
<br>> readme relates to the Cygwin version of MinGW. I've not tried to build
<br>> with the Cygwin version of MinGW, but I think it's very different (as
<br>> far as I can see, it's a configure + make job).
<br>>
<br>> Building with the native MinGW is not so straightforward--I created my
<br>> build by copying the source files and headers to a new directory
<br>> structure, and creating a custom Makefile and def file. I could adapt
<br>> them, document it, and submit if it's useful though.
<br>>
<br>> Regards,
<br>> Martin
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<br><br>John F. Fay wrote:
<br>> Has all of this been recorded in the "README.cygwin_mingw" file? If
<br>> not, would it be possible to add it there?
<br><br>This thread relates to the native Windows version of MinGW, whereas the
<br>readme relates to the Cygwin version of MinGW. I've not tried to build
<br>with the Cygwin version of MinGW, but I think it's very different (as
<br>far as I can see, it's a configure + make job).
<br><br>Building with the native MinGW is not so straightforward--I created my
<br>build by copying the source files and headers to a new directory
<br>structure, and creating a custom Makefile and def file. I could adapt
<br>them, document it, and submit if it's useful though.
<br><br>Regards,
<br>Martin
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<br>by comparing the 2.4.0 code with the present code.
<br><br>The real question is, which version looks less lame? Clive votes for
<br>the older version; anybody else care?
<br><br>John F. Fay
<br>Technical Fellow
<br>Jacobs Technology TEAS Group
<br>850-883-1294
<br><br>-----Original Message-----
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<br>Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM
<br>To: FreeGLUT developers list
<br>Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] stroke fonts have dots
<br><br>I sent this yesterday but it is hung up waiting approval because I
<br>didn't
<br>realize the size limit on the email attachments (40k bytes). My message
<br>was
<br>237k bytes because I attached a couple of "small" images.
<br><br>In short, the stroke fonts in freeglut 2.6.0 have oversized, square
<br>join-dots at the junctions of the strokes which don't appear in GLUT 3.7
<br><br>and, though I still haven't be able to confirm it, don't show up in
<br>2.4.0
<br><br>My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve the
<br>look
<br>of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears that the
<br>cure
<br>is worse than the disease.
<br><br>I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are
<br>pretty
<br>lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype, which is
<br>really
<br>good.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br><br>> I hadn't been paying sufficient attention earlier but I have just
<br>noticed
<br>> that the stroke fonts have acquired dots. Attached are two scaled
<br>screen
<br>> shots. The one with the 8 (sans-dots) is from GLUT 3.7 and the dotted
<br>8 is
<br>> from 2.6.0 -- I don't think 2.4.0 exhibited this. I'll have to build a
<br><br>> 2.4.0
<br>> test case and check.
<br>>
<br>> The screen shots are from the Academy Film Leader that starts my art
<br>work
<br>> so
<br>> I haven't been looking that carefully, sorry.
<br>>
<br>>
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<br>realize the size limit on the email attachments (40k bytes). My message was
<br>237k bytes because I attached a couple of "small" images.
<br><br>In short, the stroke fonts in freeglut 2.6.0 have oversized, square
<br>join-dots at the junctions of the strokes which don't appear in GLUT 3.7
<br>and, though I still haven't be able to confirm it, don't show up in 2.4.0
<br><br>My guess is it was an attempt, at some time in the past, to improve the look
<br>of the stroke fonts since they _are_ pretty ugly. It appears that the cure
<br>is worse than the disease.
<br><br>I wouldn't rate this as a high priority since the stroke fonts are pretty
<br>lame, at best. For quality font rendering I use freetype, which is really
<br>good.
<br><br>Clive.
<br><br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I hadn't been paying sufficient attention earlier but I have just noticed
<br>> that the stroke fonts have acquired dots. Attached are two scaled screen
<br>> shots. The one with the 8 (sans-dots) is from GLUT 3.7 and the dotted 8 is
<br>> from 2.6.0 -- I don't think 2.4.0 exhibited this. I'll have to build a
<br>> 2.4.0
<br>> test case and check.
<br>>
<br>> The screen shots are from the Academy Film Leader that starts my art work
<br>> so
<br>> I haven't been looking that carefully, sorry.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
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<br><br> Many thanks for the reminder. I'm doing this one step at a time.
<br><br> Do the web pages as given in the
<br>"web-src" directory look correct? I've been
<br>fat-fingering in the changes and am concerned about typos.
<br><br> - John
<br><br><br>At 09:49 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>Hi John,
<br>>
<br>>Good you got that working. I do see however that you didn't use the
<br>>changes I and Martin made to the website, see the attached patches and
<br>>the thread "[Freeglut-developer] Getting to the Web Source".
<br>>
<br>>Best,
<br>>Dee
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, John F. Fay <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26625709&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">johnffay@...</a>> wrote:
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<br>> >
<br>> > Â Â Â Â I am pleased to report that I have successfully updated the
<br>> > "freeglut" web page. Â My thanks go to Florian Echtler and Steve Baker
<br>> > for their considerable help.
<br>> >
<br>> > Â Â Â Â Now let the real work begin. Â We
<br>> have finally reached "square one,"
<br>> > the usual starting point.
<br>> >
<br>> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â - John
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<br><br>Somebody please update the SVN tree and pull up the modified web
<br>pages in his browser and let me know if I've done it correctly. I
<br>don't want to put errors out live on the Web if I can help it.
<br><br> - John
<br><br>At 05:31 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>Hi all,
<br>>
<br>>Attached is a patch with updates for the "news" and "install" pages.
<br>>Please let me know if you think I've missed any important changes
<br>>from 2.6.0 on the news page.
<br>>
<br>>I removed the symlinks part of the install page, as a "make install"
<br>>will already do this for you.
<br>>
<br>>Regards,
<br>>Martin
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<br>him; it looks quite nifty.
<br><br>At 11:04 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:
<br><br>>It looks _so_ much better with a 2009 release date than a 2005 date.
<br>>
<br>>It's time for a Wikipedia update, I think.
<br>>But it seems to be updated already !?
<br>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeglut" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeglut</a><br>>some 44 hours ago.
<br>>
<br>>Now that's clever.
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<br><br>Right, help.htm should be help.php, forgot to change that back after testing.
<br><br>The template.php will indeed show garbage if you just load it into
<br>firefox, it only contains php code. The other pages mostly contain
<br>html and would therefore show up fine (without sidebar) when loaded in
<br>firefox, so nothing to worry about.
<br><br>Best,
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<br><br>On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:13 PM, John F. Fay <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26621187&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">johnffay@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Folks (especially Dee as this concerns his changes and Florian since
<br>> his site figures in one of the comments),
<br>>
<br>> I'm working on your web page changes and have a few notes:
<br>>
<br>> - I changed the reference to "help.htm" to
<br>> "help.php" as Firefox was giving me an error with the original.
<br>> - The target of the link to Florian's MPX patch is
<br>> exactly that--a patch. Probably it would be nice to link to
<br>> something on Florian's site that explains what this patch is all about.
<br>> - I left the older releases on the main page. We
<br>> can always take them off later but once they're gone they're probably
<br>> forgotten. (Remember that I've been on this project for over a decade.)
<br>>
<br>> - I've checked out most of the changes and they
<br>> appear to be good, but when I tried loading "template.php" into
<br>> Firefox I got garbage. Is it supposed to look like that?
<br>>
<br>> I've put the fix into SVN. Let me know if it looks like
<br>> what you expect. After I get some feedback I'll put it out live on
<br>> the web site.
<br>>
<br>> - John
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> At 08:35 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
<br>>>Hi John,
<br>>>
<br>>>Attached find a patch, updating the main page and the help-out page:
<br>>>- Nightly tarball link renamed an now working again
<br>>>- anonymous svn instructions now linking to the instruction on the
<br>>>help out page
<br>>>- anonymous svn instructions on help out page now updated for svn,
<br>>>added link to sourceforge's anonymous svn instructions
<br>>>- deleted 2.0.1 and 2.2.0 releases from main page, too old.
<br>>>- deleted the "we can always use a hand" section from the help out
<br>>>page as it wasn't really adding anything.
<br>>>- on the help out page, added some links to ways you can help out.
<br>>>- in template.php, updated the "view PHP source" link in the
<br>>>navigation bar, was also still pointing to CVS.
<br>>>
<br>>>Also, the file dinfo.php can be deleted. There seems to be no link to
<br>>>it and it contains nothing.
<br>>>
<br>>>One last thing i came across: all the way at the bottom of the API
<br>>>page, it is said FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_0 is defined and
<br>>>FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_1 FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_2 etc will be defined for
<br>>>later versions. This never happened past 2_0, see freeglut_std.h, line
<br>>>114.
<br>>>
<br>>>Best,
<br>>>Dee
<br>>>
<br>>>On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Diederick C. Niehorster
<br>>><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26621187&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">dcnieho@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> > Hi John,
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Allright, the source in SVN is almost the same as what is actually on
<br>>> > the website. I see you just added 2.6.0 and the other things we
<br>>> > discussed to the version in SVN, thanks!
<br>>> >
<br>>> > I'll do some other updates as previously emailed around and send you a
<br>>> > patch. When Martin's is in too, we're ready to roll.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > Thanks,
<br>>> > Dee
<br>>> >
<br>>> >
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<br><br>It's time for a Wikipedia update, I think.
<br>But it seems to be updated already !?
<br> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeglut" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeglut</a><br>some 44 hours ago.
<br><br>Now that's clever.
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<br>Subject: [Freeglut-developer] Web page is active
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Gentlemen,
<br>>
<br>> I am pleased to report that I have successfully updated the
<br>> "freeglut" web page. My thanks go to Florian Echtler and Steve Baker
<br>> for their considerable help.
<br>>
<br>> Now let the real work begin. We have finally reached "square one,"
<br>> the usual starting point.
<br>>
<br>> - John
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<br>his site figures in one of the comments),
<br><br> I'm working on your web page changes and have a few notes:
<br><br> - I changed the reference to "help.htm" to
<br>"help.php" as Firefox was giving me an error with the original.
<br> - The target of the link to Florian's MPX patch is
<br>exactly that--a patch. Probably it would be nice to link to
<br>something on Florian's site that explains what this patch is all about.
<br> - I left the older releases on the main page. We
<br>can always take them off later but once they're gone they're probably
<br>forgotten. (Remember that I've been on this project for over a decade.)
<br><br> - I've checked out most of the changes and they
<br>appear to be good, but when I tried loading "template.php" into
<br>Firefox I got garbage. Is it supposed to look like that?
<br><br> I've put the fix into SVN. Let me know if it looks like
<br>what you expect. After I get some feedback I'll put it out live on
<br>the web site.
<br><br> - John
<br><br><br><br>At 08:35 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>Hi John,
<br>>
<br>>Attached find a patch, updating the main page and the help-out page:
<br>>- Nightly tarball link renamed an now working again
<br>>- anonymous svn instructions now linking to the instruction on the
<br>>help out page
<br>>- anonymous svn instructions on help out page now updated for svn,
<br>>added link to sourceforge's anonymous svn instructions
<br>>- deleted 2.0.1 and 2.2.0 releases from main page, too old.
<br>>- deleted the "we can always use a hand" section from the help out
<br>>page as it wasn't really adding anything.
<br>>- on the help out page, added some links to ways you can help out.
<br>>- in template.php, updated the "view PHP source" link in the
<br>>navigation bar, was also still pointing to CVS.
<br>>
<br>>Also, the file dinfo.php can be deleted. There seems to be no link to
<br>>it and it contains nothing.
<br>>
<br>>One last thing i came across: all the way at the bottom of the API
<br>>page, it is said FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_0 is defined and
<br>>FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_1 FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_2 etc will be defined for
<br>>later versions. This never happened past 2_0, see freeglut_std.h, line
<br>>114.
<br>>
<br>>Best,
<br>>Dee
<br>>
<br>>On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Diederick C. Niehorster
<br>><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26620781&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">dcnieho@...</a>> wrote:
<br>> > Hi John,
<br>> >
<br>> > Allright, the source in SVN is almost the same as what is actually on
<br>> > the website. I see you just added 2.6.0 and the other things we
<br>> > discussed to the version in SVN, thanks!
<br>> >
<br>> > I'll do some other updates as previously emailed around and send you a
<br>> > patch. When Martin's is in too, we're ready to roll.
<br>> >
<br>> > Thanks,
<br>> > Dee
<br>> >
<br>> >
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<br><br>Good you got that working. I do see however that you didn't use the
<br>changes I and Martin made to the website, see the attached patches and
<br>the thread "[Freeglut-developer] Getting to the Web Source".
<br><br>Best,
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<br><br><br>On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, John F. Fay <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26620635&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">johnffay@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Gentlemen,
<br>>
<br>> I am pleased to report that I have successfully updated the
<br>> "freeglut" web page. My thanks go to Florian Echtler and Steve Baker
<br>> for their considerable help.
<br>>
<br>> Now let the real work begin. We have finally reached "square one,"
<br>> the usual starting point.
<br>>
<br>> - John
<br>>
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<br><br> I am pleased to report that I have successfully updated the
<br>"freeglut" web page. My thanks go to Florian Echtler and Steve Baker
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<br><br> - John
<br><br><br>At 01:34 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:53:27PM -0600, John F. Fay wrote:
<br>> > OK, that goes fairly near the top of the stack of things to fix.
<br>>
<br>>fixed.
<br>>
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<br>> OK, that goes fairly near the top of the stack of things to fix.
<br><br>fixed.
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<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_window.c (revision 855)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_window.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -600,9 +600,6 @@
<br> window->Window.Handle,
<br> window->Window.Context
<br> );
<br>-
<br>- /* also register this window to receive spaceball events */
<br>- fgSpaceballSetWindow(window);
<br> }
<br> #elif TARGET_HOST_MS_WINDOWS
<br> if( fgStructure.CurrentWindow )
<br>Index: src/freeglut_spaceball.c
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- src/freeglut_spaceball.c (revision 855)
<br>+++ src/freeglut_spaceball.c (working copy)
<br>@@ -143,11 +143,12 @@
<br> {
<br> spnav_event sev;
<br>
<br>+ if(spnav_win != fgStructure.CurrentWindow) {
<br>+ /* this will also initialize spaceball if needed (first call) */
<br>+ fgSpaceballSetWindow(fgStructure.CurrentWindow);
<br>+ }
<br> if(!sball_initialized) {
<br>- fgInitialiseSpaceball();
<br>- if(!sball_initialized) {
<br>- return 0;
<br>- }
<br>+ return 0;
<br> }
<br>
<br> return spnav_x11_event(xev, &sev);
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