fuel gauge perm on max

[mattjhb01]

hi folks,

heres an odd one.

was riding home last night and noticed that my fuel gauge was maxed out on the top of the scale (when I had only about 1/4 left).

Turning the ignition off returns the needle to the bottom as it should do.

filling it up made no difference and it remains planted to the top stop.

Im guessing either the sender is swanny, or some kind of short?

any ideas?

Matt
02 trophy 12

[Jacques, Martin, VF-Group]

Matt,

I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.

If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same two wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does not change, the sender is fubar.

Martin.

[bodger barclay]

Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both give full deflection.

It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to remove the four screws that removes the sender from the tank.  It consists of a rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it was buried in rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark. two weeks later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge below in a bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......

In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air through the tank and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the inners.

I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to the weight of the fuel - I really struggled
with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of cleaning the tank

You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out too and a light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I wasn't in the mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in any case) (also on a rubber gasket)

I hope this helps you diagnose yours.

here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link arm and float are out of picture

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?feat=directlink

the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....

mjj_zx6rr wrote:

Matt,

I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.

If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same two wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does not change, the sender is fubar.

Martin.

[mattjhb01]

thanks guys for the advice.  Ill have to wait until next week to look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!

cheers!

Matt
02 trophy 12

--- In TriumphTrophy@..., bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...> wrote:

>
>
> Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both give full
> deflection.
>
> It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to remove the
> four screws that removes the sender from the tank.  It consists of a
> rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it was buried in
> rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark. two weeks
> later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge below in a
> bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
>
> In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air through the tank
> and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the inners.
>
> I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to the weight
> of the fuel - I really struggled
> with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of cleaning the tank
>
> You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out too and a
> light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I wasn't in the
> mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in any case)
> (also on a rubber gasket)
>
> I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
>
> here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link arm and
> float are out of picture
>
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?feat=directlink
>
> the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
>
>
>
>
> mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >
> > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same two
> > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does not
> > change, the sender is fubar.
> >
> > Martin.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge-perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Poppa Jack]

Hey Matt!
   So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my  
friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe  
that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.  
We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know  
that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred  
promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family. When  
you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who  
care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be little  
ones."
  Kindest regards,
   Poppa Jack
On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:

> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to  
> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
>
> cheers!
>
> Matt
> 02 trophy 12
>
> --- In TriumphTrophy@..., bodger barclay  
> <barclay.dan@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both  
> give full
> > deflection.
> >
> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to  
> remove the
> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it  
> was buried in
> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.  
> two weeks
> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge  
> below in a
> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >
> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air  
> through the tank
> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the  
> inners.
> >
> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to  
> the weight
> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of  
> cleaning the tank
> >
> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out  
> too and a
> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I  
> wasn't in the
> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in  
> any case)
> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >
> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >
> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link  
> arm and
> > float are out of picture
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> feat=directlink
> >
> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> > >
> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across  
> those same two
> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the  
> resistance does not
> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> > >
> > > Martin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge- 
> perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> > Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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From: TriumphTrophy@... [mailto:TriumphTrophy@...]
On Behalf Of mattjhb01
Sent: 22 October 2009 12:24
To: TriumphTrophy@...
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: fuel gauge perm on max

 

 

thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to look at it
as Im getting married on Saturday!

cheers!

Matt
02 trophy 12

--- In TriumphTrophy@...
<mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com> , bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both give
full
> deflection.
>
> It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to remove the
> four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it was buried
in
> rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark. two weeks
> later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge below in
a
> bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
>
> In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air through the
tank
> and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the inners.
>
> I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to the weight
> of the fuel - I really struggled
> with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of cleaning the
tank
>
> You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out too and
a
> light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I wasn't in
the
> mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in any case)
> (also on a rubber gasket)
>
> I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
>
> here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link arm and
> float are out of picture
>
>
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?feat=directlin
k

>
> the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
>
>
>
>
> mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >
> > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same

two
> > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does
not
> > change, the sender is fubar.
> >
> > Martin.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge-perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Colin Watkins]

Congratulations Matt!

The fuel gauge clearly comes second at such a time!

Colin.

 

From: TriumphTrophy@... [mailto:TriumphTrophy@...]
On Behalf Of mattjhb01
Sent: 22 October 2009 12:24
To: TriumphTrophy@...
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: fuel gauge perm on max

 

 

thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to look at it
as Im getting married on Saturday!

cheers!

Matt
02 trophy 12

--- In TriumphTrophy@...
<mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com> , bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both give
full
> deflection.
>
> It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to remove the
> four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it was buried
in
> rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark. two weeks
> later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge below in
a
> bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
>
> In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air through the
tank
> and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the inners.
>
> I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to the weight
> of the fuel - I really struggled
> with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of cleaning the
tank
>
> You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out too and
a
> light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I wasn't in
the
> mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in any case)
> (also on a rubber gasket)
>
> I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
>
> here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link arm and
> float are out of picture
>
>
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?feat=directlin
k

>
> the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
>
>
>
>
> mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >
> > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same

two
> > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does
not
> > change, the sender is fubar.
> >
> > Martin.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge-perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[bodger barclay]

Yes Congrats....but keep a sense of proportion otherwise next she will make you get rid of the bike and any way a slight smell of fuel shouldn't put her off....

Poppa Jack wrote:

Hey Matt!
   So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my  
friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe  
that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.  
We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know  
that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred  
promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family. When  
you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who  
care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be little  
ones."
  Kindest regards,
   Poppa Jack
On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:

> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to  
> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
>
> cheers!
>
> Matt
> 02 trophy 12
>
> --- In [e-mail], bodger barclay  
> <barclay.dan@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both  
> give full
> > deflection.
> >
> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to  
> remove the
> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it  
> was buried in
> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.  
> two weeks
> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge  
> below in a
> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >
> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air  
> through the tank
> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the  
> inners.
> >
> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to  
> the weight
> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of  
> cleaning the tank
> >
> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out  
> too and a
> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I  
> wasn't in the
> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in  
> any case)
> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >
> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >
> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link  
> arm and
> > float are out of picture
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> feat=directlink
> >
> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> > >
> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across  
> those same two
> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the  
> resistance does not
> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> > >
> > > Martin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge- 
> perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> > Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mattjhb01]

hehe thanks folks!

we've just arrived in torquay and Im on the hotel network, which, amazingly I can pick up in our suite!

thanks for all your kind words :) this isnt the first time for either of us, so we made sure it was right this time!  

kerry is a big fan of the bike as well, so no worries there either!

see you on the other side!

matt






--- In TriumphTrophy@..., bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...> wrote:

>
>
> Yes Congrats....but keep a sense of proportion otherwise next she will make
> you get rid of the bike and any way a slight smell of fuel shouldn't put her
> off....
>
>
>
> Poppa Jack wrote:
> >
> > Hey Matt!
> >    So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my  
> > friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe  
> > that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.  
> > We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know  
> > that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred  
> > promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family. When  
> > you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who  
> > care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be little  
> > ones."
> >   Kindest regards,
> >    Poppa Jack
> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:
> >
> >> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to  
> >> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
> >>
> >> cheers!
> >>
> >> Matt
> >> 02 trophy 12
> >>
> >> --- In TriumphTrophy@..., bodger barclay  
> >> <barclay.dan@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both  
> >> give full
> >> > deflection.
> >> >
> >> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to  
> >> remove the
> >> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> >> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it  
> >> was buried in
> >> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.  
> >> two weeks
> >> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge  
> >> below in a
> >> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >> >
> >> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> >> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air  
> >> through the tank
> >> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the  
> >> inners.
> >> >
> >> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to  
> >> the weight
> >> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> >> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of  
> >> cleaning the tank
> >> >
> >> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out  
> >> too and a
> >> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I  
> >> wasn't in the
> >> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in  
> >> any case)
> >> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >> >
> >> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >> >
> >> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link  
> >> arm and
> >> > float are out of picture
> >> >
> >> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> >> feat=directlink
> >> >
> >> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Matt,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> >> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >> > >
> >> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across  
> >> those same two
> >> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the  
> >> resistance does not
> >> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> >> > >
> >> > > Martin.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge- 
> >> perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> >> > Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge-perm-on-max-tp25993610p26016614.html
> Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[JackM-2]

Congratulations, Matt!
Donna and I have only been married half as long as "PoppaJack" (21 years) and have also seen our share of struggles. But just take it day by day, give and take a little, but also remember who YOU are. You do need to cooperate, you do need to be attentive, and you will need to make some sacrifices for her happiness, but do not be a "yes man". Women may think they want that , but in the end, they just lose respect for you.(Heard that from 6 different women I know, so spare me the contrarian responses)

ANyway, bring her along with you on rides, make it a part of her life too and you'll both be happier.
Jack
Placerville, CA
--- In TriumphTrophy@..., "mattjhb01" <yoda.uk@...> wrote:

>
> thanks guys for the advice.  Ill have to wait until next week to look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
>
> cheers!
>
> Matt
> 02 trophy 12
>
> --- In TriumphTrophy@..., bodger barclay <barclay.dan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both give full
> > deflection.
> >
> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to remove the
> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank.  It consists of a
> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it was buried in
> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark. two weeks
> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge below in a
> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >
> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air through the tank
> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the inners.
> >
> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to the weight
> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of cleaning the tank
> >
> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out too and a
> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I wasn't in the
> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in any case)
> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >
> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >
> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link arm and
> > float are out of picture
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?feat=directlink
> >
> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> > >
> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same two
> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does not
> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> > >
> > > Martin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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[Kevin B-2]

Matt,

I concur with everything below from Martin. It is either a short between the wires or the sender.

From the Haynes circuit diagram the connector should have:-

Black wire. With connector in place and with the ignition either off or on that is permanent earth (ground or 0V.)

The second is Green and Black. With ignition on and connector in place measure the voltage between this wire and battery negative. With ignition on and a full tank this wire should also be at 0V. With an empty tank this wire should be at or close to 12V.

Test
Pull the plug apart. Ignition on. Voltmeter across the connector that goes to the gauge should read 12V. If it is 0V the fault is probably crushed or shorted wires between here and the gauge. If it is 12V or close to that then it's probably the sender.

Sounds like senders stick. From above you now know where to look.


I hope that hasn't confused.

Kevin



--- In TriumphTrophy@..., "mjj_zx6rr" <martin.jacques@...> wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
>
> If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across those same two wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the resistance does not change, the sender is fubar.
>
> Martin.
>

[bodger barclay]

honest luv - I was trying to get rid of a bit of fuel but the needle stayed on max so i had to go a bit further to be sure.......

mattjhb01 wrote:

hehe thanks folks!

we've just arrived in torquay and Im on the hotel network, which, amazingly I can pick up in our suite!

thanks for all your kind words :) this isnt the first time for either of us, so we made sure it was right this time!  

kerry is a big fan of the bike as well, so no worries there either!

see you on the other side!

matt






--- In [e-mail], bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes Congrats....but keep a sense of proportion otherwise next she will make
> you get rid of the bike and any way a slight smell of fuel shouldn't put her
> off....
>
>
>
> Poppa Jack wrote:
> >
> > Hey Matt!
> >    So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my  
> > friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe  
> > that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.  
> > We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know  
> > that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred  
> > promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family. When  
> > you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who  
> > care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be little  
> > ones."
> >   Kindest regards,
> >    Poppa Jack
> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:
> >
> >> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to  
> >> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
> >>
> >> cheers!
> >>
> >> Matt
> >> 02 trophy 12
> >>
> >> --- In [e-mail], bodger barclay  
> >> <barclay.dan@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both  
> >> give full
> >> > deflection.
> >> >
> >> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to  
> >> remove the
> >> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists of a
> >> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it  
> >> was buried in
> >> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.  
> >> two weeks
> >> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge  
> >> below in a
> >> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >> >
> >> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water (more
> >> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air  
> >> through the tank
> >> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the  
> >> inners.
> >> >
> >> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to  
> >> the weight
> >> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> >> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of  
> >> cleaning the tank
> >> >
> >> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out  
> >> too and a
> >> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I  
> >> wasn't in the
> >> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in  
> >> any case)
> >> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >> >
> >> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >> >
> >> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link  
> >> arm and
> >> > float are out of picture
> >> >
> >> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> >> feat=directlink
> >> >
> >> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Matt,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank has been
> >> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >> > >
> >> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across  
> >> those same two
> >> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the  
> >> resistance does not
> >> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> >> > >
> >> > > Martin.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge- 
> >> perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> >> > Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
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[Paul-368]

Congrats Matt and Kerry!!

Best regards
Paul (And Lisa!)

bodger barclay wrote:

>  
>
>
> honest luv - I was trying to get rid of a bit of fuel but the needle
> stayed
> on max so i had to go a bit further to be sure.......
>
> mattjhb01 wrote:
> >
> > hehe thanks folks!
> >
> > we've just arrived in torquay and Im on the hotel network, which,
> > amazingly I can pick up in our suite!
> >
> > thanks for all your kind words :) this isnt the first time for either of
> > us, so we made sure it was right this time!
> >
> > kerry is a big fan of the bike as well, so no worries there either!
> >
> > see you on the other side!
> >
> > matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In TriumphTrophy@...
> <mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com>, bodger barclay <barclay.dan@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes Congrats....but keep a sense of proportion otherwise next she will
> >> make
> >> you get rid of the bike and any way a slight smell of fuel
> shouldn't put
> >> her
> >> off....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Poppa Jack wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hey Matt!
> >> > So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my
> >> > friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe
> >> > that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.
> >> > We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know
> >> > that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred
> >> > promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family.
> When
> >> > you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who
> >> > care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be
> little
> >> > ones."
> >> > Kindest regards,
> >> > Poppa Jack
> >> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to
> >> >> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers!
> >> >>
> >> >> Matt
> >> >> 02 trophy 12
> >> >>
> >> >> --- In TriumphTrophy@...
> <mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com>, bodger barclay
> >> >> <barclay.dan@> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both
> >> >> give full
> >> >> > deflection.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to
> >> >> remove the
> >> >> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists
> of a
> >> >> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it
> >> >> was buried in
> >> >> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.
> >> >> two weeks
> >> >> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge
> >> >> below in a
> >> >> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water
> (more
> >> >> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air
> >> >> through the tank
> >> >> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the
> >> >> inners.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to
> >> >> the weight
> >> >> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> >> >> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of
> >> >> cleaning the tank
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out
> >> >> too and a
> >> >> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I
> >> >> wasn't in the
> >> >> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in
> >> >> any case)
> >> >> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link
> >> >> arm and
> >> >> > float are out of picture
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> <http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?>
> >> >> feat=directlink
> >> >> >
> >> >> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Matt,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank
> has been
> >> >> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across
> >> >> those same two
> >> >> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the
> >> >> resistance does not
> >> >> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Martin.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge- <http://www.nabble.com/fuel-gauge->
> >> >> perm-on-max-tp25993610p26000754.html
> >> >> > Sent from the Triumph Trophy mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
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>

[mattjhb01]

Thanks for all your wonderful messages!!

we had a lovely time in Torquay, the day went like clockwork and everyone behaved themselves!

On the fuel gauge front.. I was delighted to find it was just the earth wire fallen off the back of the gauge, id been using it to test earths when fitting the gear indicator and had loosened the crimp connector.

if only everything was that simple!!

thanks again everyone :) what a great forum this is.

Matt
02 trophy 12

--- In TriumphTrophy@..., Paul <paul@...> wrote:

>
> Congrats Matt and Kerry!!
>
> Best regards
> Paul (And Lisa!)
>
> bodger barclay wrote:
> >  
> >
> >
> > honest luv - I was trying to get rid of a bit of fuel but the needle
> > stayed
> > on max so i had to go a bit further to be sure.......
> >
> > mattjhb01 wrote:
> > >
> > > hehe thanks folks!
> > >
> > > we've just arrived in torquay and Im on the hotel network, which,
> > > amazingly I can pick up in our suite!
> > >
> > > thanks for all your kind words :) this isnt the first time for either of
> > > us, so we made sure it was right this time!
> > >
> > > kerry is a big fan of the bike as well, so no worries there either!
> > >
> > > see you on the other side!
> > >
> > > matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In TriumphTrophy@...
> > <mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com>, bodger barclay <barclay.dan@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yes Congrats....but keep a sense of proportion otherwise next she will
> > >> make
> > >> you get rid of the bike and any way a slight smell of fuel
> > shouldn't put
> > >> her
> > >> off....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Poppa Jack wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hey Matt!
> > >> > So you're going to make an honest woman out of her? Congrats my
> > >> > friends. I have always loved weddings. Nobody I know would believe
> > >> > that I'm such a mush, but my Sherri and I just celebrated 42 years.
> > >> > We've had our rocky times, hell some real rocky times even. I know
> > >> > that sometimes the only thing between me and the door was my sacred
> > >> > promise. Those days are long ago now. I thank God for my family.
> > When
> > >> > you get up there in years, it's a big comfort to have kinfolks who
> > >> > care, and Grandkids! Bless you both, "May all your troubles be
> > little
> > >> > ones."
> > >> > Kindest regards,
> > >> > Poppa Jack
> > >> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:23 AM, mattjhb01 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> thanks guys for the advice. Ill have to wait until next week to
> > >> >> look at it as Im getting married on Saturday!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> cheers!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Matt
> > >> >> 02 trophy 12
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --- In TriumphTrophy@...
> > <mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com>, bodger barclay
> > >> >> <barclay.dan@> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Yes a complete short or the float being jammed up at the top both
> > >> >> give full
> > >> >> > deflection.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > It is an easy task (i didn't even replace the rubber gasket) to
> > >> >> remove the
> > >> >> > four screws that removes the sender from the tank. It consists
> > of a
> > >> >> > rheostat with an 8" lever and float. Mine was so clogged up it
> > >> >> was buried in
> > >> >> > rust - probably about an inch thick according to the tide mark.
> > >> >> two weeks
> > >> >> > later and I am still decanting contaminated fuel from the sludge
> > >> >> below in a
> > >> >> > bucket - down to 4" of sludge - I CANT BELIEVE IT RAN......
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In the end I found it easiest to blast out the tank with water
> > (more
> > >> >> > effective than rinsing with fuel and nails) then I blew air
> > >> >> through the tank
> > >> >> > and fuelled immediately to prevent the water taking a grip on the
> > >> >> inners.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I would highly recommend running the fuel level down low due to
> > >> >> the weight
> > >> >> > of the fuel - I really struggled
> > >> >> > with a 3/4 tank and found the fuel a nuisance in terms of
> > >> >> cleaning the tank
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > You may as well drop out the fuel valve and give that a clean out
> > >> >> too and a
> > >> >> > light grease. There probably is a fuel resistant grease but I
> > >> >> wasn't in the
> > >> >> > mood to find some (you can grease it with the tank in place in
> > >> >> any case)
> > >> >> > (also on a rubber gasket)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I hope this helps you diagnose yours.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > here is a picture of the unit once pried apart (simple) the link
> > >> >> arm and
> > >> >> > float are out of picture
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?
> > <http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/J_SEfclschVe1_4lmIb8pg?>
> > >> >> feat=directlink
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > the rust is a souvenir of 14 years of neglect and 25k miles.....
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > mjj_zx6rr wrote:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Matt,
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I would imagine that the two wire connector from the tank
> > has been
> > >> >> > > trapped, and the two wires are now touching each other.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > If not, test the sender by measuring the resistance across
> > >> >> those same two
> > >> >> > > wires with varying levels of fuel in the tank. If the
> > >> >> resistance does not
> > >> >> > > change, the sender is fubar.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Martin.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > View this message in context:
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> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
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