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Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T12:24:32Z

Benoît Minisini wrote:

>> sqlite3 correctly displays dates:
>>
>> sqlite> select LogdtTimestamp from log limit 10;
>> 9/7/2008 20:22:04
>> 9/7/2008 20:26:03
>> 9/7/2008 20:41:29
>> 9/7/2008 20:59:48
>> 9/7/2008 21:35:02
>> 9/7/2008 21:37:37
>> 9/7/2008 22:02:28
>> 9/7/2008 22:26:49
>> 9/7/2008 22:29:20
>> 9/7/2008 22:38:10
>>
>> Attachment Screenshot-1.png shows the date as Gambas3 interprets it,
>> which is plainly wrong.
>>
>> I have checked the data with sqlite3 and with sqlitebrowser, and in
>> both cases the dates are displayed correctly.
>>
>> Also attached is a database and supporting code showing the problem.
>> In short, the dates returned by Gambas are gobbledegook.
>>
>> I have confirmed that the problem also exists in gb2.
>>
>> Environment is Ubuntu 9.10.
>>
>
> The date datatype does not exist in SQLite, it is stored as a string.
>
> So it has to be emulated by Gambas.
>
> It was decided to store dates in ISO-8601 format, the format used by
> date and time functions of SQLite. As soon as you write the data with
> Gambas, and read it back, there is no problem.
>
> But if you write data in a different format, Gambas does not
> recognize it and returns garbage. It should return an error anyway
> instead of garbage, but the guy who wrote the code didn't do that.
>
> I can modify the SQLite drivers to accept the american format, but I
> can't add all date format of the planet easily...

That would not be wise. I'll see about getting the dates converted to
ISO-8601 format.

> And, no, crying, howling and moaning like a child is not a solution. Just
> explain your problem like an adult, and you will get the answer as well.

I explained the problem. I got told "save the date with gambas", no
explanation or reason that could be understood, then I got asked if I had
time to test it in MySQL. Anypone in their right mind would howl at that
latter suggestion.

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T12:15:22Z

Wow, HTML mesage and all. How incredibly intelligent.

"You should develop in Gambas3", a paraphrase of Benoit Minisini.

Shove it.

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T07:45:56Z

Take your head out of whatever orifice you have it stuffed in and put
yourself in my customer's shoes, Fabien. Would you continue put up
with the excuses you are asking me to make?

You said your native language is english. no ?

Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T07:34:52Z

> sqlite3 correctly displays dates:
>
> sqlite> select LogdtTimestamp from log limit 10;
> 9/7/2008 20:22:04
> 9/7/2008 20:26:03
> 9/7/2008 20:41:29
> 9/7/2008 20:59:48
> 9/7/2008 21:35:02
> 9/7/2008 21:37:37
> 9/7/2008 22:02:28
> 9/7/2008 22:26:49
> 9/7/2008 22:29:20
> 9/7/2008 22:38:10
>
> Attachment Screenshot-1.png shows the date as Gambas3 interprets it,
> which is plainly wrong.
>
> I have checked the data with sqlite3 and with sqlitebrowser, and in
> both cases the dates are displayed correctly.
>
> Also attached is a database and supporting code showing the problem.
> In short, the dates returned by Gambas are gobbledegook.
>
> I have confirmed that the problem also exists in gb2.
>
> Environment is Ubuntu 9.10.
>

The date datatype does not exist in SQLite, it is stored as a string.

So it has to be emulated by Gambas.

It was decided to store dates in ISO-8601 format, the format used by date and
time functions of SQLite. As soon as you write the data with Gambas, and read
it back, there is no problem.

But if you write data in a different format, Gambas does not recognize it and
returns garbage. It should return an error anyway instead of garbage, but the
guy who wrote the code didn't do that.

I can modify the SQLite drivers to accept the american format, but I can't add
all date format of the planet easily...

So you have four solutions:

- Writing dates in the database by using the ISO-8601 format.

- Writing dates in the database from Gambas.

- Using a string field instead of a date field in the SQLite database. It is
not a problem, as SQLite stores everything as strings (It is more complex, but
I simplify...)

- Waiting for me to update the SQLite drivers.

And, no, crying, howling and moaning like a child is not a solution. Just
explain your problem like an adult, and you will get the answer as well.

Now there is one more people that won't talk to you anymore. When nobody won't
talk to you at all (even my own patience has its limit), you will have to find
another language.

Did you try to get the UTF-8 output of an external running process on
Microsoft .Net? You will have a lot of reason to howl there too, but there is
no mailing-list where some kind people will explain you what to do, and which
undocumented function to use to make it work, for free.

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T06:00:04Z

2009/12/14 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:

> 2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>
>> i've not the time to test that with mysql ... can you ?
>
> Hey, I'll ask my no-paying, freely GPL'd client if they'll convert
> their stupid sqlite3 database that doesn't support gambas date
> formats, a database written to by any number of unknown applications
> including French President Sarkozy's MySpace boudoir snap-cam, into
> MySQL just so I can convert their existing BASIC code into something
> that gambas can function with. Of course, they will have to pay me
> gazumptions of dollars for every day it takes me to do your testing
> for you, right? And they'll say, "Hey! we'll wear that cost! Heck,
> Kad! Charge us double time!" Right?
>
> Pardon me if I tell you they tell me to take a running long jump off a
> short pier, hey.
>
> No. I will not test it in MySql. That I might or might not be able to
> afford the time is irrelevant. You have a major show stopper on your
> hands. The requirement is sqlite3, not MySql.
>
> Take your head out of whatever orifice you have it stuffed in and put
> yourself in my customer's shoes, Fabien. Would you continue put up
> with the excuses you are asking me to make?
>
> I doubt it.
>
> And you want gambas to be taken seriously, right?
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hey seriously if you found gambas so bad ... change of language... !
There is numerous Basic under linux ... and a fabulous Basic under
windows... so why are you lost so many time on Gambas ? a poor
language with a ridiculous shrimp for logo and a name for child games
?

AND WE ARE NOT PAYED FOR THAT ! GAMBAS MAKE FOR FREE BY PEOPLE THAT
LIKE JUST PROGRAMMING.

You are just coming from the windows world and want to change things
in the programme making philosophy under linux ... you have really a
lot to learn about that.

Has we say in France 'You can't have Butter and Butter money'

And then,there is some people that know that is really difficult to
make a full langage (interpreter, compiler, etc), with only one
devellopper, it's the case in gambas... Benoit make Gambas for
himself, for his needs... the when people want something more ... like
me, Ron, Daniel, Charlie, they make the thing themself and then share
it. So it's true that gambas is not perfect, but it's not a reason to
accept injure from a person that just now how complain about things...

This is so my last answer to you, i've linked your email adress and ip
to my trash. if someone else want to answer you they are free.

I've lost too many time with you to accept those kind of words.. so
thank you for the bug reports... and now it's time for you to see new
territories.

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T03:35:34Z

2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:

> i've not the time to test that with mysql ... can you ?

Hey, I'll ask my no-paying, freely GPL'd client if they'll convert
their stupid sqlite3 database that doesn't support gambas date
formats, a database written to by any number of unknown applications
including French President Sarkozy's MySpace boudoir snap-cam, into
MySQL just so I can convert their existing BASIC code into something
that gambas can function with. Of course, they will have to pay me
gazumptions of dollars for every day it takes me to do your testing
for you, right? And they'll say, "Hey! we'll wear that cost! Heck,
Kad! Charge us double time!" Right?

Pardon me if I tell you they tell me to take a running long jump off a
short pier, hey.

No. I will not test it in MySql. That I might or might not be able to
afford the time is irrelevant. You have a major show stopper on your
hands. The requirement is sqlite3, not MySql.

Take your head out of whatever orifice you have it stuffed in and put
yourself in my customer's shoes, Fabien. Would you continue put up
with the excuses you are asking me to make?

I doubt it.

And you want gambas to be taken seriously, right?

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T03:15:14Z

i've not the time to test that with mysql ... can you ?

2009/12/14 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:

> 2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>
>> no in fact the more simple is to save the date with gambas ...
>
> I can't do that because I can't guarantee only gambas will write to
> the database. For all I know an electricity consumption meter, a MKII
> SCUD missile test panel, or Her Majesty's Approved Toe-nail clipping
> Counter could be writing to the database. For crying out loud, what
> are databases for if the solution is to make sure that some obscure
> application and nothing other than some obscure application writes to
> the database? And what if some other application tries to read it?
> Then what?
>
>> But it not solve the problem
>
> No, it won't. That's why this problem is a show stopper and needs to be fixed.
>
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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T02:44:50Z

2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:

> no in fact the more simple is to save the date with gambas ...

I can't do that because I can't guarantee only gambas will write to
the database. For all I know an electricity consumption meter, a MKII
SCUD missile test panel, or Her Majesty's Approved Toe-nail clipping
Counter could be writing to the database. For crying out loud, what
are databases for if the solution is to make sure that some obscure
application and nothing other than some obscure application writes to
the database? And what if some other application tries to read it?
Then what?

> But it not solve the problem

No, it won't. That's why this problem is a show stopper and needs to be fixed.

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T02:35:38Z

2009/12/14 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:

> 2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>> Yes your right... no convertion is done as it is commented in
>> gb.db.sqlite3 but i don't know why :/ there is certainly a good reason
>> in the back ... but it is not 'normal' as gambas need to be able to
>> use db natural date/time formats.
>>
>> /* case ft_Date:
>> r->records[sz][i].set_asString(reslt[i]);
>> r->records[sz][i].set_asDate(reslt[i]);
>> break;*/
>
> Well, mate, I need you to find out why and fix it. This is a major
> show stopper. And as for it being commented in gb.db.sqlite3, with all
> due respect, I should not be expected to know that.
>
> I could probably work around it by changing the field to NUMERIC, but
> then I've got work ahead of me to see if I can store and retrieve
> floating point values and convert them to/from human-readable dates in
> the user's current default format. I might even opt for a TEXT
> datatype if I'm forced to, but then in either case I have to
> externally call GNU date to do the conversion to/from the user's
> current system date/time format if I want to save myself a stack of
> localisation misery. And then there are possibly hundreds of such
> conversions to do every second so my freely GPL'd users will have to
> invest in several rows of Cray XT5-HE Jaguars with thirty seven
> thousand plus Opteron six core 2.6 GHz CPUs each, running in parallel,
> but then Gambas isn't multi-threaded, hey.

no in fact the more simple is to save the date with gambas ...

hResult = db.create(mytable)
hresult!date = date(1999,12,1)
hResult.uptade

But it not solve the problem as with this way the date is stored in
gambas format ... and the timestamp is not the same than sqlite

> I mean, this is a really, really big problem.
>
> :(
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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T02:18:51Z

2009/12/14 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
> Yes your right... no convertion is done as it is commented in
> gb.db.sqlite3 but i don't know why :/ there is certainly a good reason
> in the back ... but it is not 'normal' as gambas need to be able to
> use db natural date/time formats.
>
> /* case ft_Date:
> r->records[sz][i].set_asString(reslt[i]);
> r->records[sz][i].set_asDate(reslt[i]);
> break;*/

Well, mate, I need you to find out why and fix it. This is a major
show stopper. And as for it being commented in gb.db.sqlite3, with all
due respect, I should not be expected to know that.

I could probably work around it by changing the field to NUMERIC, but
then I've got work ahead of me to see if I can store and retrieve
floating point values and convert them to/from human-readable dates in
the user's current default format. I might even opt for a TEXT
datatype if I'm forced to, but then in either case I have to
externally call GNU date to do the conversion to/from the user's
current system date/time format if I want to save myself a stack of
localisation misery. And then there are possibly hundreds of such
conversions to do every second so my freely GPL'd users will have to
invest in several rows of Cray XT5-HE Jaguars with thirty seven
thousand plus Opteron six core 2.6 GHz CPUs each, running in parallel,
but then Gambas isn't multi-threaded, hey.

I mean, this is a really, really big problem.

:(

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Re: Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T01:51:16Z

Yes your right... no convertion is done as it is commented in
gb.db.sqlite3 but i don't know why :/ there is certainly a good reason
in the back ... but it is not 'normal' as gambas need to be able to
use db natural date/time formats.

/* case ft_Date:
r->records[sz][i].set_asString(reslt[i]);
r->records[sz][i].set_asDate(reslt[i]);
break;*/

2009/12/14 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:

> Same database, same code. Run, exit, run, exit, run, exit...
>
> The values that pass for dates are different on every execution of the code.
>
> Screenshots attached.
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Oh, good grief, it's even worse than I first thought :Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T01:16:47Z

Same database, same code. Run, exit, run, exit, run, exit...

The values that pass for dates are different on every execution of the code.

Screenshots attached.

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Re: SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T01:06:22Z

duh! SQLite does not have a 'date field'. Everything is sored as text (other than an integer primary key). You sort out dates yourself.

SHOW STOPPER: GB3, sqlite3 and date fields

2009-12-14T00:22:28Z

sqlite3 correctly displays dates:

sqlite> select LogdtTimestamp from log limit 10;
9/7/2008 20:22:04
9/7/2008 20:26:03
9/7/2008 20:41:29
9/7/2008 20:59:48
9/7/2008 21:35:02
9/7/2008 21:37:37
9/7/2008 22:02:28
9/7/2008 22:26:49
9/7/2008 22:29:20
9/7/2008 22:38:10

Attachment Screenshot-1.png shows the date as Gambas3 interprets it,
which is plainly wrong.

I have checked the data with sqlite3 and with sqlitebrowser, and in
both cases the dates are displayed correctly.

Also attached is a database and supporting code showing the problem.
In short, the dates returned by Gambas are gobbledegook.

I have confirmed that the problem also exists in gb2.

Environment is Ubuntu 9.10.

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Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T12:26:33Z

Benoît Minisini wrote:

> This is a problem with the window manager.
>
> I have just tried with Gnome / Ubuntu 9.10 64 bits / Compiz, and I
> don't have your problem. Did you play with the Compiz preferences?
> Can you try by disabling 3D effects from the Gnome preferences?

Bugger, hey. That fixed it. Thanks.

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Re: BUG gb3: TextArea in IDE

2009-12-13T12:22:52Z

Benoît Minisini wrote:
>> When working in the g3 IDE, setting the foreground colour of a
>> TextArea changes the control's background colour.
>>
>> Code and picture attached.
>>
>
> The Qt4 background and foreground color management should be fixed
> now in revision #2492.

Thanks. I'll drag it in this afternoon and give it a try.

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Re: BUG: QT4

2009-12-13T12:12:31Z

> Bemoit;
> Using GB3 qt4 textarea. The ide reports that the
> properties LINE & COLUMN are Unknown.
>
> thanls
>

Indeed... There must be a problem in Qt4, otherwise I would have implement
these properties. I will look at it...

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BUG: QT4

2009-12-13T10:48:21Z

Bemoit;
Using GB3 qt4 textarea. The ide reports that the
properties LINE & COLUMN are Unknown.

thanls

Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T07:22:46Z

> Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
> the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
> that only ALT-F4 will close.
>
> In Gnome. the window sits right below my top panel, so believing that
> the close options may be hidden under that panel, I moved the top
> panel to the bottom, and still no close options.
>
> Image attached.
>
> And the damned thing will not go away until I click it and type
> ALT-F4. Of course, on a few occasions, I've missed the click and
> closed other windows.
>
> Please! It's driving me bonkers. I mean, really bonkers!
>

This is a problem with the window manager.

I have just tried with Gnome / Ubuntu 9.10 64 bits / Compiz, and I don't have
your problem. Did you play with the Compiz preferences? Can you try by
disabling 3D effects from the Gnome preferences?

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Re: BUG gb3: TextArea in IDE

2009-12-13T07:17:33Z

> When working in the g3 IDE, setting the foreground colour of a
> TextArea changes the control's background colour.
>
> Code and picture attached.
>

The Qt4 background and foreground color management should be fixed now in
revision #2492.

Regards,

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Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T01:26:13Z

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:

> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
>> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>>> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
>>>> Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
>>>> the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
>>>> that only ALT-F4 will close.
>>> the windows have not cross button ? (top right)
>>
>> No, just a light bulb, no title bar either. The title displayed to the
>> left of the lightbulb appears editable.
>
>>
>>> try what i've say before
>>
>> qtconfig?
>
> no ... in this case it seem to be a windows manager problem ... so
> it's more Benoit who can correct that.

Ok, I have no idea what you're talking about so I'll wait.

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Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T01:21:47Z

2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
>>> Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
>>> the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
>>> that only ALT-F4 will close.
>> the windows have not cross button ? (top right)
>
> No, just a light bulb, no title bar either. The title displayed to the
> left of the lightbulb appears editable.

>
>> try what i've say before
>
> qtconfig?

no ... in this case it seem to be a windows manager problem ... so
it's more Benoit who can correct that.

>
>> ... i will try to see if we can put some
>> positioning limits at the creation for these windows.
>
> They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
> They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
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> happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
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Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T00:56:23Z

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
>> Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
>> the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
>> that only ALT-F4 will close.
> the windows have not cross button ? (top right)

No, just a light bulb, no title bar either. The title displayed to the
left of the lightbulb appears editable.

> try what i've say before

qtconfig?

> ... i will try to see if we can put some
> positioning limits at the creation for these windows.

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to<fades into distance>

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Re: BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-13T00:48:25Z

2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@...>:
> Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
> the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
> that only ALT-F4 will close.
the windows have not cross button ? (top right)

> In Gnome. the window sits right below my top panel, so believing that
> the close options may be hidden under that panel, I moved the top
> panel to the bottom, and still no close options.
below it's normal as it is an on top windows... but you can move it
(alt+mouse (buttonleft down) slide) (it's an Xwindows beaviour)

> Image attached.
>
> And the damned thing will not go away until I click it and type
> ALT-F4. Of course, on a few occasions, I've missed the click and
> closed other windows.
try what i've say before ... i will try to see if we can put some
positioning limits at the creation for these windows.

>
> Please! It's driving me bonkers. I mean, really bonkers!
>
> They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
> They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
> To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
> happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
> coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
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> They're coming to<fades into distance>
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BUG: gb3 debug

2009-12-12T23:00:31Z

Whenever my code encounters a breakpoint during execution and I view
the properties of an object that is an array, I get this damned window
that only ALT-F4 will close.

In Gnome. the window sits right below my top panel, so believing that
the close options may be hidden under that panel, I moved the top
panel to the bottom, and still no close options.

Image attached.

And the damned thing will not go away until I click it and type
ALT-F4. Of course, on a few occasions, I've missed the click and
closed other windows.

Please! It's driving me bonkers. I mean, really bonkers!

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to<fades into distance>

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T22:35:59Z

Charlie Reinl wrote:

> to see if it is your account, which is 'bad configured' , create a new
> user and make your tests.

Thanks, but this never did seem as if it was an account issue. A) I don't
mess with my account, B) I've encountered the issue before on other
revisions of the same OS, and always in Gnome. Fabien's qtcnofig suggestion
fixed it.

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T18:22:32Z

2009/12/13 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:

>> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
>> > try to configure it with qt4-qtconfig package
>>
>> Ok, thank you. that fixed it. All I did was run qtconfig and select
>> the Cleanlook GUI style explicitly as opposed to leaving the default.
>>
>> Give me an honest opinion, I don't need facts, just your opinion. I am
>> trying to develop a Qt4 application on a GTK-based distro. I made that
>> choice because Benoit prefers Qt, so I understand. Am I better off, in
>> your opinion, trying to develop this application in a KDE environment?
>>
>> Whilst I greatly dislike KDE, I am willing to put up with it if it
>> means there are advantages to programming in Gambas on KDE.
>>
>> I like Gnome, but I need Gambas more.
>>
>
> You just have to have a qt library propertly configured, but Ubuntu forgets to
> do that apparently. Now that it is done, you can keep Gnome.

lol - ok.

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T18:18:25Z

> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
> > try to configure it with qt4-qtconfig package
>
> Ok, thank you. that fixed it. All I did was run qtconfig and select
> the Cleanlook GUI style explicitly as opposed to leaving the default.
>
> Give me an honest opinion, I don't need facts, just your opinion. I am
> trying to develop a Qt4 application on a GTK-based distro. I made that
> choice because Benoit prefers Qt, so I understand. Am I better off, in
> your opinion, trying to develop this application in a KDE environment?
>
> Whilst I greatly dislike KDE, I am willing to put up with it if it
> means there are advantages to programming in Gambas on KDE.
>
> I like Gnome, but I need Gambas more.
>

You just have to have a qt library propertly configured, but Ubuntu forgets to
do that apparently. Now that it is done, you can keep Gnome.

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T18:10:46Z

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
> try to configure it with qt4-qtconfig package

Ok, thank you. that fixed it. All I did was run qtconfig and select
the Cleanlook GUI style explicitly as opposed to leaving the default.

Give me an honest opinion, I don't need facts, just your opinion. I am
trying to develop a Qt4 application on a GTK-based distro. I made that
choice because Benoit prefers Qt, so I understand. Am I better off, in
your opinion, trying to develop this application in a KDE environment?

Whilst I greatly dislike KDE, I am willing to put up with it if it
means there are advantages to programming in Gambas on KDE.

I like Gnome, but I need Gambas more.

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Re: gb3 GridView.Select

2009-12-12T17:56:12Z

2009/12/12 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:

>> 2009/12/12 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:
>> >> The first time a GridView.Rows.Select(a,b) is issued in code, the
>> >> GridView_Select event doesn't fire at all, then after issuing
>> >> subsequent selects, it works but exhibits odd behaviour; the text from
>> >> the previous select is returned.
>> >>
>> >> Clicking on a row in the GridView always fires the _Select event and
>> >> always returns the correct data.
>> >>
>> >> Code attached.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something here?
>> >
>> > If I remember, there is something weird in Qt that makes the Select event
>> > being raised before the current row actually changes.
>>
>> That is actually what it looks like when I observe the UI, but I
>> figured if I said that people would think I was a nut.
>>
>> > But you can use the Click event instead of the Select event.
>>
>> No I cannot. The click event does not fire when .Rows.Select() is
>> issued from within the code.
>>
>> > Think that "Select" means the selection has changed, and "Click" means
>> > the current row has changed, and that the two are disconnected in Qt,
>> > even if the GridView is in single row selection mode.
>>
>> Going by the behaviour of the sample app I included, click means
>> exactly that, nothing more, nothing less; the user has clicked.
>>
>> > Note that apparently that didn't change in Qt 4.
>>
>> Public Sub GridView1_Click()
>>
>> Stop
>>
>> End
>>
>> Add that to the sample app I included and click the button until the
>> cows come home. When .Rows.Select() is issued from within the code,
>> the click event does not fire.
>>
>
> Try to explicitely set the Row property instead of using Select(). The
> Select() method is actually only useful in multiple selection mode.

Same problem, and the gridview click event still doesn't fire.

If I first set GridView1.Row = 0, the select event doesn't fire, but
if I then set GridView1.Row = 25, the select event fires and
GridView1.Row returns 0. If I then set GridView1.Row = 0, the select
event fires and GridView1.Row returns 25.

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T11:47:24Z

Am Samstag, den 12.12.2009, 22:56 +1100 schrieb Kadaitcha Man:

> 2009/12/12 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:
>
> > Which distribution do you use?
>
> Ubuntu 9.10
>
> > Can you try to run your project from the command line and see if there is any
> > difference?
> >
> > $ cd /path/to/my/project
> > $ gbx3
>
> It's very late here and I'm up early to go on a long charity motorbike
> ride in the morning so I'll have to do it when i return.
>
> > And can you try to use gdb to see if the same GUI shared libraries are loaded
> > when running the IDE, and when running your project?
> >
> > $ cd /path/to/gambas/sources/app/src/gambas3
> > $ gbc3 -agt # compile all if that was not done.
> > $ gdb gbx3
> > (gdb) run
> > ...
> >
> > $ cd /path/to/my/project
> > $ gdb gbx3
> > (gdb) run
> > ...
> >
> > Normally, gdb will display a message for each shared library loaded. Then we
> > will be able to compare what is loaded in both cases.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Benoît Minisini
> >

Salut,

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T07:20:24Z

try to configure it with qt4-qtconfig package

2009/12/12 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@...>:
> No problem here on kubuntu 9.10... It seem to be a QT4 configuration
> problem on your box... and i've not any ubuntu 9.10 (gnome)
> to confirm that ... the better will be other gnome based distribution
> users tel us if they have the same problem.
>

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T07:19:44Z

No problem here on kubuntu 9.10... It seem to be a QT4 configuration
problem on your box... and i've not any ubuntu 9.10 (gnome)
to confirm that ... the better will be other gnome based distribution
users tel us if they have the same problem.

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Re: gb3 GridView.Select

2009-12-12T04:09:24Z

> 2009/12/12 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:
> >> The first time a GridView.Rows.Select(a,b) is issued in code, the
> >> GridView_Select event doesn't fire at all, then after issuing
> >> subsequent selects, it works but exhibits odd behaviour; the text from
> >> the previous select is returned.
> >>
> >> Clicking on a row in the GridView always fires the _Select event and
> >> always returns the correct data.
> >>
> >> Code attached.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something here?
> >
> > If I remember, there is something weird in Qt that makes the Select event
> > being raised before the current row actually changes.
>
> That is actually what it looks like when I observe the UI, but I
> figured if I said that people would think I was a nut.
>
> > But you can use the Click event instead of the Select event.
>
> No I cannot. The click event does not fire when .Rows.Select() is
> issued from within the code.
>
> > Think that "Select" means the selection has changed, and "Click" means
> > the current row has changed, and that the two are disconnected in Qt,
> > even if the GridView is in single row selection mode.
>
> Going by the behaviour of the sample app I included, click means
> exactly that, nothing more, nothing less; the user has clicked.
>
> > Note that apparently that didn't change in Qt 4.
>
> Public Sub GridView1_Click()
>
> Stop
>
> End
>
> Add that to the sample app I included and click the button until the
> cows come home. When .Rows.Select() is issued from within the code,
> the click event does not fire.
>

Try to explicitely set the Row property instead of using Select(). The
Select() method is actually only useful in multiple selection mode.

Regards,

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Re: BUG: gb3 Frame appearance in IDE

2009-12-12T03:56:26Z

2009/12/12 Benoît Minisini <gambas@...>:

> Which distribution do you use?

Ubuntu 9.10

> Can you try to run your project from the command line and see if there is any
> difference?
>
> $ cd /path/to/my/project
> $ gbx3

It's very late here and I'm up early to go on a long charity motorbike
ride in the morning so I'll have to do it when i return.

> And can you try to use gdb to see if the same GUI shared libraries are loaded
> when running the IDE, and when running your project?
>
> $ cd /path/to/gambas/sources/app/src/gambas3
> $ gbc3 -agt # compile all if that was not done.
> $ gdb gbx3
> (gdb) run
> ...
>
> $ cd /path/to/my/project
> $ gdb gbx3
> (gdb) run
> ...
>
> Normally, gdb will display a message for each shared library loaded. Then we
> will be able to compare what is loaded in both cases.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Benoît Minisini
>
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