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gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Willie Walker
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Hi All:
There is a convention of having the user press F7 to enable caret browsing. For example, when running Firefox, one can press F7 to enable the caret in the document content and you can then arrow around the content and select/copy text. yelp has something similar, which I believe is controlled by its "use_caret" gconf key. I'm curious if there would be any interest/desire in a general "caret_navigation" key? Perhaps /desktop/interface/gnome/caret_navigation? The general assumption I'm making is that if you need caret navigation in one place, you're likely to need everywhere. Setting this key can then be managed in one spot and not require the user to have to remember to press F7 in each application where they need caret navigation. Will _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Shaun McCance-2
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi All: > > There is a convention of having the user press F7 to enable caret > browsing. For example, when running Firefox, one can press F7 to > enable the caret in the document content and you can then arrow around > the content and select/copy text. yelp has something similar, which I > believe is controlled by its "use_caret" gconf key. > > I'm curious if there would be any interest/desire in a general > "caret_navigation" key? Perhaps > /desktop/interface/gnome/caret_navigation? The general assumption I'm > making is that if you need caret navigation in one place, you're likely > to need everywhere. Setting this key can then be managed in one spot > and not require the user to have to remember to press F7 in each > application where they need caret navigation. Epiphany and Evolution also both respond to F7 to enable caret navigation. (And, by the way, though Yelp stores this in GConf, it also responds to F7.) We're seeing more and more applications use an HTML renderer for core parts of their interfaces, such as Gwibber, and Empathy with the Adium theme. I also wonder if non-editable GtkTextView widgets should be doing something here. If we had a desktop-wide setting (possibly propagated by an xsetting), then GTK+/Gecko/WebKit/etc could just pick it up and do the right thing, without any extra work from application developers. -- Shaun _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Xan Lopez-3
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Shaun McCance <shaunm@...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: >> Hi All: >> >> There is a convention of having the user press F7 to enable caret >> browsing. For example, when running Firefox, one can press F7 to >> enable the caret in the document content and you can then arrow around >> the content and select/copy text. yelp has something similar, which I >> believe is controlled by its "use_caret" gconf key. >> >> I'm curious if there would be any interest/desire in a general >> "caret_navigation" key? Perhaps >> /desktop/interface/gnome/caret_navigation? The general assumption I'm >> making is that if you need caret navigation in one place, you're likely >> to need everywhere. Setting this key can then be managed in one spot >> and not require the user to have to remember to press F7 in each >> application where they need caret navigation. > > Epiphany and Evolution also both respond to F7 to enable > caret navigation. (And, by the way, though Yelp stores > this in GConf, it also responds to F7.) We're seeing > more and more applications use an HTML renderer for core > parts of their interfaces, such as Gwibber, and Empathy > with the Adium theme. > > I also wonder if non-editable GtkTextView widgets should > be doing something here. > > If we had a desktop-wide setting (possibly propagated by > an xsetting), then GTK+/Gecko/WebKit/etc could just pick > it up and do the right thing, without any extra work from > application developers. This makes sense, but at least for WebKit depending on gconf would be problematic. I guess things will be much easier when we finally start using GSettings. Xan > > -- > Shaun > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Shaun McCance-2
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:16 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Shaun McCance <shaunm@...> wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > >> Hi All: > >> > >> There is a convention of having the user press F7 to enable caret > >> browsing. For example, when running Firefox, one can press F7 to > >> enable the caret in the document content and you can then arrow around > >> the content and select/copy text. yelp has something similar, which I > >> believe is controlled by its "use_caret" gconf key. > >> > >> I'm curious if there would be any interest/desire in a general > >> "caret_navigation" key? Perhaps > >> /desktop/interface/gnome/caret_navigation? The general assumption I'm > >> making is that if you need caret navigation in one place, you're likely > >> to need everywhere. Setting this key can then be managed in one spot > >> and not require the user to have to remember to press F7 in each > >> application where they need caret navigation. > > > > Epiphany and Evolution also both respond to F7 to enable > > caret navigation. (And, by the way, though Yelp stores > > this in GConf, it also responds to F7.) We're seeing > > more and more applications use an HTML renderer for core > > parts of their interfaces, such as Gwibber, and Empathy > > with the Adium theme. > > > > I also wonder if non-editable GtkTextView widgets should > > be doing something here. > > > > If we had a desktop-wide setting (possibly propagated by > > an xsetting), then GTK+/Gecko/WebKit/etc could just pick > > it up and do the right thing, without any extra work from > > application developers. > > This makes sense, but at least for WebKit depending on gconf would be > problematic. I guess things will be much easier when we finally start > using GSettings. Well, right. That's why I mentioned XSettings, which can then be accessed with the GtkSettings API. In fact, even after GSettings/dconf, I think it would make sense to have an XSetting, since it can be picked up by other toolkits as well. -- Shaun _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Xan Lopez-3
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Shaun McCance <shaunm@...> wrote:
> Well, right. That's why I mentioned XSettings, which can > then be accessed with the GtkSettings API. In fact, even > after GSettings/dconf, I think it would make sense to have > an XSetting, since it can be picked up by other toolkits > as well. Oh, right, missed that. Yeah, sounds like a good plan to me. Xan > > -- > Shaun > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Willie Walker
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Thanks Shaun!
> Epiphany and Evolution also both respond to F7 to enable > caret navigation. (And, by the way, though Yelp stores > this in GConf, it also responds to F7.) We're seeing > more and more applications use an HTML renderer for core > parts of their interfaces, such as Gwibber, and Empathy > with the Adium theme. > > I also wonder if non-editable GtkTextView widgets should > be doing something here. It's definitely something that is becoming more common, and I think you either want it or not versus turning it on in one application and disabling it in another. > If we had a desktop-wide setting (possibly propagated by > an xsetting), then GTK+/Gecko/WebKit/etc could just pick > it up and do the right thing, without any extra work from > application developers. The XSetting notion is interesting. Which component would we file and RFE for to get this? gnome-settings-daemon? Will _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?
by Shaun McCance-2
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:48 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> Thanks Shaun! > > > Epiphany and Evolution also both respond to F7 to enable > > caret navigation. (And, by the way, though Yelp stores > > this in GConf, it also responds to F7.) We're seeing > > more and more applications use an HTML renderer for core > > parts of their interfaces, such as Gwibber, and Empathy > > with the Adium theme. > > > > I also wonder if non-editable GtkTextView widgets should > > be doing something here. > > It's definitely something that is becoming more common, and I think you > either want it or not versus turning it on in one application and > disabling it in another. > > > If we had a desktop-wide setting (possibly propagated by > > an xsetting), then GTK+/Gecko/WebKit/etc could just pick > > it up and do the right thing, without any extra work from > > application developers. > > The XSetting notion is interesting. Which component would we file and > RFE for to get this? gnome-settings-daemon? Well, a few places. We'd probably want to add something here: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/XSettingsRegistry Then, I suppose there should be a GtkSettings property: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkSettings.html And then, yes, gnome-settings-daemon would be responsible for watching GConf (or whatever) and settings the XSetting. -- Shaun _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list |
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