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ggb 1.71b using DAS server for the fasta sequences

by Marc Wessner :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I have to install many private genome browsers that display specific
annotations on the human genome.

I intend to configure a DAS server that could provide all the human
common tracks for all my genome browsers, so I don't have to copy the
whole genome fasta files and mRNA tracks data etc... several times.
First of all, am I right or the fasta files have to be present in each
browser database  ?

In a browser that shall use the DAS server (but doesn't yet), I have
only loaded a few gff files : chromosome.gff, cytobands.gff and the
annotations.
Without the fasta files, when I try this genome browser alone, I get an
error message that says:"chr?start:end reference is unknown!" (what ever
the figures may be)

Am I missing something ?
I am using this documentation:
http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#DAS
Shall I look anywhere else ?

Where could I find an explanation of how the region is defined:
  - Is chromosome.gff not enough to display the annotations for a given
region (I am not talking about bases or GC%) ?
  - Are fasta file madatory for such a purpose ?
  - Can the fasta sequences be part of what is gotten from the DAS in
order (I hope so)?

Thanks for your hints,

Best regards

Marc


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Re: ggb 1.71b using DAS server for the fasta sequences

by Dave Clements, GMOD Help Desk-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Marc,

I'm not an experienced DAS person, but I might be able to shed some
light on the error message.  I believe the "chr?start:end reference is
unknown!" error message is the result of not defining the whole
chromosome somewhere.  From the tutorial
(http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#data_file):

---
It is very important to have a full-length entry (such as the one for
ctgA) for each reference sequence mentioned in the first column of the
GFF3 file. However, the reference sequence can have any source and
type you choose. Commonly used types are "clone", "chromosome" and
"contig."
---

I *think* you need to define the overall chromosome in a local database.

Does anyone else have suggestions?

Thanks,

Dave C.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Marc Wessner <mwessner@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have to install many private genome browsers that display specific
> annotations on the human genome.
>
> I intend to configure a DAS server that could provide all the human
> common tracks for all my genome browsers, so I don't have to copy the
> whole genome fasta files and mRNA tracks data etc... several times.
> First of all, am I right or the fasta files have to be present in each
> browser database  ?
>
> In a browser that shall use the DAS server (but doesn't yet), I have
> only loaded a few gff files : chromosome.gff, cytobands.gff and the
> annotations.
> Without the fasta files, when I try this genome browser alone, I get an
> error message that says:"chr?start:end reference is unknown!" (what ever
> the figures may be)
>
> Am I missing something ?
> I am using this documentation:
> http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#DAS
> Shall I look anywhere else ?
>
> Where could I find an explanation of how the region is defined:
>  - Is chromosome.gff not enough to display the annotations for a given
> region (I am not talking about bases or GC%) ?
>  - Are fasta file madatory for such a purpose ?
>  - Can the fasta sequences be part of what is gotten from the DAS in
> order (I hope so)?
>
> Thanks for your hints,
>
> Best regards
>
> Marc
>
>
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Re: ggb 1.71b using DAS server for the fasta sequences

by Scott Cain-4 :: Rate this Message:

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To add to this, and answer one of your other questions: you do not
absolutely need to have the dna sequences themselves to make gbrowse
work: all you really need is a gff file that describes the features.
You only need the dna sequence if you want to use the dna/gc content
glyph or provide translations either for the translation glyph or in
the cds glyph.

Scott


On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Dave Clements, GMOD Help Desk
<help@...> wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> I'm not an experienced DAS person, but I might be able to shed some
> light on the error message.  I believe the "chr?start:end reference is
> unknown!" error message is the result of not defining the whole
> chromosome somewhere.  From the tutorial
> (http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#data_file):
>
> ---
> It is very important to have a full-length entry (such as the one for
> ctgA) for each reference sequence mentioned in the first column of the
> GFF3 file. However, the reference sequence can have any source and
> type you choose. Commonly used types are "clone", "chromosome" and
> "contig."
> ---
>
> I *think* you need to define the overall chromosome in a local database.
>
> Does anyone else have suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave C.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Marc Wessner <mwessner@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have to install many private genome browsers that display specific
>> annotations on the human genome.
>>
>> I intend to configure a DAS server that could provide all the human
>> common tracks for all my genome browsers, so I don't have to copy the
>> whole genome fasta files and mRNA tracks data etc... several times.
>> First of all, am I right or the fasta files have to be present in each
>> browser database  ?
>>
>> In a browser that shall use the DAS server (but doesn't yet), I have
>> only loaded a few gff files : chromosome.gff, cytobands.gff and the
>> annotations.
>> Without the fasta files, when I try this genome browser alone, I get an
>> error message that says:"chr?start:end reference is unknown!" (what ever
>> the figures may be)
>>
>> Am I missing something ?
>> I am using this documentation:
>> http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#DAS
>> Shall I look anywhere else ?
>>
>> Where could I find an explanation of how the region is defined:
>>  - Is chromosome.gff not enough to display the annotations for a given
>> region (I am not talking about bases or GC%) ?
>>  - Are fasta file madatory for such a purpose ?
>>  - Can the fasta sequences be part of what is gotten from the DAS in
>> order (I hope so)?
>>
>> Thanks for your hints,
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
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Re: ggb 1.71b using DAS server for the fasta sequences

by Lincoln Stein-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Marc,

Each server will need a database that provides the names of the chromosomes and their lengths. This can be a flat GFF file, or any of the adapters that GBrowse supports. You do not need to provide the full FASTA file with the sequence unless the browser needs to display the sequence for GC content, stop sites, etc.

Lincoln

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Marc Wessner <mwessner@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have to install many private genome browsers that display specific
annotations on the human genome.

I intend to configure a DAS server that could provide all the human
common tracks for all my genome browsers, so I don't have to copy the
whole genome fasta files and mRNA tracks data etc... several times.
First of all, am I right or the fasta files have to be present in each
browser database  ?

In a browser that shall use the DAS server (but doesn't yet), I have
only loaded a few gff files : chromosome.gff, cytobands.gff and the
annotations.
Without the fasta files, when I try this genome browser alone, I get an
error message that says:"chr?start:end reference is unknown!" (what ever
the figures may be)

Am I missing something ?
I am using this documentation:
http://gmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmod/Generic-Genome-Browser/branches/stable/docs/tutorial/tutorial.html?content-type=text%2Fhtml#DAS
Shall I look anywhere else ?

Where could I find an explanation of how the region is defined:
 - Is chromosome.gff not enough to display the annotations for a given
region (I am not talking about bases or GC%) ?
 - Are fasta file madatory for such a purpose ?
 - Can the fasta sequences be part of what is gotten from the DAS in
order (I hope so)?

Thanks for your hints,

Best regards

Marc


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