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gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with it? Thank you and best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
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On 07:38:29 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote:
> Hi, > I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found > anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the > n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with > it? > > Thank you and best regards, > Arnold > -- > Arnold Troeger > Email: stssart@... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > N95 seems to work here... Atleast partialy gnokii --identify GNOKII Version 0.6.24 IMEI : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Manufacturer : Nokia Model : Unknown Product name : Unknown Revision : 21.0.016 gnokii --getsms IN 0 end 0. Inbox Message (Unknown) Date/time: 00/00/2000 00:00:00 Sender: Msg Center: Text: GetSMS IN 1 failed! (The given location is empty.) .. gnokii --getalarm Alarm: off Time: 03:45 gnokii --getphonebook ME 0 end GNOKII Version 0.6.24 Error reading from the location 0 in memory ME Error: The current frame isn't handled by the incoming function. Here's the config: [global] port = /dev/ttyACM0 model = 6510 initlength = default connection = dku2libusb use_locking = no smsc_timeout = 10 -- Andraž "ruskie" Levstik Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru Geek/Hacker/Tinker Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. Key id = F4C1F89C Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Jari Turkia
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Arnold Troeger wrote:
> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found > anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the > n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with it? Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end (Gnapplet). It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable for anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such application based on the S60 2nd ed version. The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has been developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which are freely available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no results yet. Regards, Jari Turkia _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
> On 07:38:29 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote: >> Hi, >> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't > found >> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with > the >> n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working > with >> it? >> >> Thank you and best regards, >> Arnold >> -- >> Arnold Troeger >> Email: stssart@... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > N95 seems to work here... Atleast partialy > > gnokii --identify > GNOKII Version 0.6.24 > IMEI : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Manufacturer : Nokia > Model : Unknown > Product name : Unknown > Revision : 21.0.016 > > gnokii --getsms IN 0 end > 0. Inbox Message (Unknown) > Date/time: 00/00/2000 00:00:00 > Sender: Msg Center: > Text: > > GetSMS IN 1 failed! (The given location is empty.) > .. > > gnokii --getalarm > Alarm: off > Time: 03:45 > > > gnokii --getphonebook ME 0 end > GNOKII Version 0.6.24 > Error reading from the location 0 in memory ME > Error: The current frame isn't handled by the incoming function. > > Here's the config: > [global] > port = /dev/ttyACM0 > model = 6510 > initlength = default > connection = dku2libusb > use_locking = no > smsc_timeout = 10 > > > -- > Andraž "ruskie" Levstik > Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru > Geek/Hacker/Tinker > > Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. > > Key id = F4C1F89C > Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnokii-users mailing list > gnokii-users@... > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users > > is the phonebook. From your example above, it doesn't look as if the getphonebook function is working with your phone. It didn't work with mine either. Is there someone working on this? -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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Jari Turkia wrote:
> Arnold Troeger wrote: >> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found >> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with >> the n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working >> with it? > > Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end > (Gnapplet). It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not > very usable for anything else except transferring your own handler to > the mobile. > > Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such > application based on the S60 2nd ed version. > > The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has been > developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All > professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which are > freely available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no results yet. > > Regards, > Jari Turkia > > > _______________________________________________ > gnokii-users mailing list > gnokii-users@... > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users > > I can't get to the gnokii web site today; traceroute stops at a router in San Jose, California for some reason. I recall reading something about a change in communication protocol between 2nd and 3rd edition (please correct me if I'm wrong). I tried running gnapplet.sis on the N95 and the phone would not start it up. Does gnapplet need to be recompiled/updated for the N95 Symbion OS? -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Pawel Kot
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On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <jmjt@...> wrote: > Arnold Troeger wrote: > > > I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found > anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the n95, > or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with it? > > > > Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end (Gnapplet). > It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable for > anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not supported by gnokii. We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection) and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol. However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95 happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all of them failed (as of now). What you can get from N95: - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or any other SyncML compatible software) Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone. > Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such > application based on the S60 2nd ed version. You mean 3rd Edition. > The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has been > developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All > professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which are freely > available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no results yet. That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires applications to be digitally signed in order to run. take care, pkot -- Pawel Kot _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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Pawel Kot wrote:
> Hi, > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <jmjt@...> wrote: >> Arnold Troeger wrote: >> >>> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found >> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the n95, >> or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with it? >> Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end (Gnapplet). >> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable for >> anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. > > To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol > and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which > is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown > reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset > implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you > can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On > the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not > supported by gnokii. > > We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the > phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need > to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection) > and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol. > > However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95 > happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and > nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all > of them failed (as of now). > > What you can get from N95: > - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver > - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools > - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or > any other SyncML compatible software) > > Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone. > >> Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such >> application based on the S60 2nd ed version. > > You mean 3rd Edition. > >> The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has been >> developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All >> professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which are freely >> available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no results yet. > > That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced > the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires > applications to be digitally signed in order to run. > > take care, > pkot Thank you for your reply. So, someone is working on gnapplet for the n95? Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the porting effort? Thank you and best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by LoLoVioLo
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Thanks a lot for sharing the config file for N95. Unfortunatly, I
cannot send SMS with it. According to Pawel, It is possible to send SMS with AT commands to N95 with Gnokii. Does someone succeed can share his config file ? Thanks for your help. Regards, LoLoVioLo On May 3, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote: > On 07:38:29 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote: >> Hi, >> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't > found >> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with > the >> n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working > with >> it? >> >> Thank you and best regards, >> Arnold >> -- >> Arnold Troeger >> Email: stssart@... >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- > >> > > N95 seems to work here... Atleast partialy > > gnokii --identify > GNOKII Version 0.6.24 > IMEI : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Manufacturer : Nokia > Model : Unknown > Product name : Unknown > Revision : 21.0.016 > > gnokii --getsms IN 0 end > 0. Inbox Message (Unknown) > Date/time: 00/00/2000 00:00:00 > Sender: Msg Center: > Text: > > GetSMS IN 1 failed! (The given location is empty.) > .. > > gnokii --getalarm > Alarm: off > Time: 03:45 > > > gnokii --getphonebook ME 0 end > GNOKII Version 0.6.24 > Error reading from the location 0 in memory ME > Error: The current frame isn't handled by the incoming function. > > Here's the config: > [global] > port = /dev/ttyACM0 > model = 6510 > initlength = default > connection = dku2libusb > use_locking = no > smsc_timeout = 10 > > > -- > Andraž "ruskie" Levstik > Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru > Geek/Hacker/Tinker > > Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. > > Key id = F4C1F89C > Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnokii-users mailing list > gnokii-users@... > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Daniele Forsi-2
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2008/5/3 Arnold Troeger wrote:
> So, someone is working on gnapplet for the n95? not that we are aware of, but the original author of gnapplet, Borbely Zoltan, might step in at some time I'm also looking at Python for S60 because version 1.4.2 adds support for "logs" which seem to give access to the remote number of SMS; I wasn't able to check this because of my Bluetooth problems > Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the porting > effort? no the downtime is over, the main problem for me is that programming in C++ on Symbian OS is too different from what I alreadly know -- Daniele Forsi _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
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On 11:23:00 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote:
> Pawel Kot wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <jmjt@...> wrote: > >> Arnold Troeger wrote: > >> > >>> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't > >>> found > >> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with > >> the n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii > >> working with it? > >> Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end > >> (Gnapplet). > >> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable > >> for anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. > > > > To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol > > and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which > > is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown > > reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset > > implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you > > can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On > > the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not > > supported by gnokii. > > > > We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the > > phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need > > to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection) > > and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol. > > > > However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95 > > happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and > > nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all > > of them failed (as of now). > > > > What you can get from N95: > > - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver > > - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools > > - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or > > any other SyncML compatible software) > > > > Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone. > > > >> Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such > >> application based on the S60 2nd ed version. > > > > You mean 3rd Edition. > > > >> The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has > >> been > >> developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All > >> professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which > >> are freely available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no > >> results yet. > > > > That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced > > the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires > > applications to be digitally signed in order to run. > > > > take care, > > pkot > > Thank you for your reply. So, someone is working on gnapplet for the > n95? Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the > porting effort? > > Thank you and best regards, > Arnold > Signing is easily avoided(or reduced to a meaningless thing)... Infact I'd recommend debranding and jailbreaking (thus breaking any and all Digital Restrictions Managment facilities for applications) on any n95 device... ###!!!WARNING!!!### This can be dangerous. I take no responsibilities for anything. Just because it worked for me it doesn't mean it will for anyone else. ###!!!WARNING!!!### That said I found the entire process of debranding and jailbreaking easy to do. The important bits: * PLUG THE PHONE INTO AC!!! * DO NOT DISCONNECT THE PHONE UNTIL THE UPDATER SAYS IT'S FINISHED AND YOU SEE IT BOOTUP SUCCESSFULLY In case you wan tto debrand it and jailbreak it first debrand it. Here's some tutorials: Debranding: http://clear-nokia.blogspot.com/2007/05/nokia-n95-debranding-guide.html Jailbreaking: http://www.finestfones.com/2008/03/symbian-92-has-been-hacked.html http://www.finestfones.com/2008/04/how-to-install-any-applications-using.html -- Andraž "ruskie" Levstik Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru Geek/Hacker/Tinker Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. Key id = F4C1F89C Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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Daniele Forsi wrote:
> 2008/5/3 Arnold Troeger wrote: > >> So, someone is working on gnapplet for the n95? > > not that we are aware of, but the original author of gnapplet, Borbely > Zoltan, might step in at some time > > I'm also looking at Python for S60 because version 1.4.2 adds support > for "logs" which seem to give access to the remote number of SMS; I > wasn't able to check this because of my Bluetooth problems > >> Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the porting >> effort? > > no the downtime is over, the main problem for me is that programming > in C++ on Symbian OS is too different from what I alreadly know > around the digital signing issue in S60 rel 3.1? -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
> On 11:23:00 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote: >> Pawel Kot wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <jmjt@...> wrote: >>>> Arnold Troeger wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't >>>>> found >>>> anything much. Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with >>>> the n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii >>>> working with it? >>>> Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end >>>> (Gnapplet). >>>> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable >>>> for anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. >>> To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol >>> and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which >>> is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown >>> reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset >>> implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you >>> can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On >>> the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not >>> supported by gnokii. >>> >>> We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the >>> phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need >>> to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection) >>> and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol. >>> >>> However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95 >>> happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and >>> nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all >>> of them failed (as of now). >>> >>> What you can get from N95: >>> - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver >>> - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools >>> - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or >>> any other SyncML compatible software) >>> >>> Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone. >>> >>>> Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such >>>> application based on the S60 2nd ed version. >>> You mean 3rd Edition. >>> >>>> The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has >>>> been >>>> developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All >>>> professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which >>>> are freely available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no >>>> results yet. >>> That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced >>> the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires >>> applications to be digitally signed in order to run. >>> >>> take care, >>> pkot >> Thank you for your reply. So, someone is working on gnapplet for the >> n95? Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the >> porting effort? >> >> Thank you and best regards, >> Arnold >> > > Signing is easily avoided(or reduced to a meaningless thing)... Infact I'd > recommend debranding and jailbreaking (thus breaking any and all Digital > Restrictions Managment facilities for applications) on any n95 device... > > ###!!!WARNING!!!### > This can be dangerous. I take no responsibilities for anything. > Just because it worked for me it doesn't mean it will for anyone > else. > ###!!!WARNING!!!### > > That said I found the entire process of debranding and jailbreaking > easy to do. The important bits: > * PLUG THE PHONE INTO AC!!! > * DO NOT DISCONNECT THE PHONE UNTIL THE UPDATER SAYS IT'S > FINISHED AND YOU SEE IT BOOTUP SUCCESSFULLY > > In case you wan tto debrand it and jailbreak it first debrand it. > > Here's some tutorials: > Debranding: > http://clear-nokia.blogspot.com/2007/05/nokia-n95-debranding-guide.html > > Jailbreaking: > http://www.finestfones.com/2008/03/symbian-92-has-been-hacked.html > http://www.finestfones.com/2008/04/how-to-install-any-applications-using.html > > > > > -- > Andraž "ruskie" Levstik > Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru > Geek/Hacker/Tinker > > Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. > > Key id = F4C1F89C > Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnokii-users mailing list > gnokii-users@... > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users > > it doesn't look too difficult :-). Except for the PC-Suite bit though. I don't have any windows machines at home; they're all Linux. This is what I would have to do to get gnapplet version 0.6.24 working on my n95? How much of gnokii would work once I'd done this? What else would I gain from this, and what would I lose? I'm guessing the phone warranty would be history once I'd done this. Thank you and best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Jari Turkia
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Pawel Kot wrote:
>> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable for >> anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile. > To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol > and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which Thanks for clarification. >> Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such >> application based on the S60 2nd ed version. > You mean 3rd Edition. What I meant to say is that we have a working Gnapplet for S60 2nd ed. But on 3rd ed. APIs have changed and the thing could be rewritten to compile on 3rd. ed tools. In that way it could be based on 2nd ed. > That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced > the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires > applications to be digitally signed in order to run. The signing is not really an issue. You can always get past that by configuring your device's settings, of course that is a nuisance when an application is being distributed to hundreds or thousands of users. The commercial applications have a real certificate which is based on Symbian Certified testing. The certification process is affordable nowadays, so if any results were available I'm positive we would be able to get it passed. Regards, Jari Turkia _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Jari Turkia
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Arnold Troeger wrote:
>> I'm also looking at Python for S60 because version 1.4.2 adds support >> for "logs" which seem to give access to the remote number of SMS; I >> wasn't able to check this because of my Bluetooth problems > Are you actually looking to rewrite gnapplet in python? Does python get > around the digital signing issue in S60 rel 3.1? Python on S60 is nice for testing and prototyping. It is totally un-usable for distributing anything to the masses. First off: no S60 phone has Python in it when shipped, secondly: there are huge limitations what you can do with Python, for example you'd have to first start the application manually before doing any Gnokiiing. Regards, Jari Turkia _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Pawel Kot
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On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Jari Turkia <jmjt@...> wrote: > Pawel Kot wrote: > > > Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such > > > application based on the S60 2nd ed version. > > > > > You mean 3rd Edition. > > > > What I meant to say is that we have a working Gnapplet for S60 2nd ed. But > on 3rd ed. APIs have changed and the thing could be rewritten to compile on > 3rd. ed tools. In that way it could be based on 2nd ed. OK. So that should be 2nd Ed and earlier. > > That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced > > the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires > > applications to be digitally signed in order to run. > > > > The signing is not really an issue. You can always get past that by > configuring your device's settings, of course that is a nuisance when an > application is being distributed to hundreds or thousands of users. The > commercial applications have a real certificate which is based on Symbian > Certified testing. The certification process is affordable nowadays, so if > any results were available I'm positive we would be able to get it passed. You're right. I'm not an expert here. These were just highlight of the irc chats. take care, pkot -- Pawel Kot _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by BORBELY Zoltan
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On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:09:04PM +0200, Daniele Forsi wrote: > 2008/5/3 Arnold Troeger wrote: > > > So, someone is working on gnapplet for the n95? > > not that we are aware of, but the original author of gnapplet, Borbely > Zoltan, might step in at some time I'm going to buy an S60 3rd edition phone in the near future (I hope just some weeks). Bye, Bozo _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Jari Turkia
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BORBELY Zoltan wrote:
>> not that we are aware of, but the original author of gnapplet, Borbely >> Zoltan, might step in at some time > I'm going to buy an S60 3rd edition phone in the near future (I hope just > some weeks). With Nokia's dev tools you don't need to own such thing. I managed to set up the emulator with a spare Bluetooth-key so that it is possible to have a Linux on a laptop 1 and run Symbian software on the emulator with native BT-support on laptop 2. Both the S60 emulator and Linux see each other via Bluetooth. After completing that I run into trouble with Cardide.c++ and 2nd ed Gnapplet code (but that's an another story). This is possible only on Windows and the BT-emu-driver hogs the specific BT apparatus for itself (until the driver is uninstalled). That's why you may want to use an external USB key for emulator. Regards, Jari Turkia _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Arnold Troeger
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I thought I'd summarize this thread to sort out my own understanding of
the current status of gnokii, gnapplet, and the N95 8GB. Gnokii was written to use the FBUS and AT protocols. The current generation of Nokia phones, the N series phones all(?) use Symbion OS which has no support for FBUS and limited AT command support. Gnapplet was written to address this change. The N95 8GB runs Symbion OS 9.2, S60 rel 3.1. Gnapplet was written for Symbion S60, and the current version (0.6.2[45]) was written for S60 rel 2.x. Current attempts to port gnapplet to S60 rel 3.x have not been successful. Among other things S60 rel 3 requires applications to be digitally signed, but this is not the only issue. The current versions of gnokii and gnapplet work somewhat with S60 version 3. However, you must debrand and jailbreak the phone (links are here: Debranding: http://clear-nokia.blogspot.com/2007/05/nokia-n95-debranding-guide.html Jailbreaking: http://www.finestfones.com/2008/03/symbian-92-has-been-hacked.html http://www.finestfones.com/2008/04/how-to-install-any-applications-using.html Thank you Andraz!) I'm not comfortable doing the above to my phone considering that the functions I'm interested in (phone book & sms) don't work well on S60 rel 3 with the current version of gnapplet. Borbely Zoltan, the original author of gnapplet, is planning to buy an S60 3rd edition phone in the near future (soon I hope :-) and this may get us to a gnapplet running on S60 rel 3. How can I help? I reasonably confident I could help with the testing. I've had a look at the GnuPoc website, but I don't see anything about S60 Rel 3, and I'm forbidden from the GnuPoc wiki. I'll keep looking for developer information, but any shortcuts will be greatly appreciated :-) Thank you and very best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Troeger Email: stssart@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
by Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
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On 16:54:37 2008-05-06 Arnold Troeger <stssart@...> wrote:
> I thought I'd summarize this thread to sort out my own understanding of > the current status of gnokii, gnapplet, and the N95 8GB. > > Gnokii was written to use the FBUS and AT protocols. The current > generation of Nokia phones, the N series phones all(?) use Symbion OS > which has no support for FBUS and limited AT command support. Gnapplet > was written to address this change. > > The N95 8GB runs Symbion OS 9.2, S60 rel 3.1. Gnapplet was written for > Symbion S60, and the current version (0.6.2[45]) was written for S60 > rel 2.x. Current attempts to port gnapplet to S60 rel 3.x have not been > successful. Among other things S60 rel 3 requires applications to be > digitally signed, but this is not the only issue. > > The current versions of gnokii and gnapplet work somewhat with S60 > version 3. However, you must debrand and jailbreak the phone (links > are here: > Debranding: > http://clear-nokia.blogspot.com/2007/05/nokia-n95-debranding-guide.html > > Jailbreaking: > http://www.finestfones.com/2008/03/symbian-92-has-been-hacked.html > http://www.finestfones.com/2008/04/how-to-install-any-applications-using.html > Thank you Andraz!) > I'm not comfortable doing the above to my phone considering that the > functions I'm interested in (phone book & sms) don't work well on S60 > rel 3 with the current version of gnapplet. Correction... none 1st or 60nd edition app will work no matter if it is debranded or jailbroken... this Only bypases the need to have it signed by symbian-signed... -- Andraž "ruskie" Levstik Source Mage GNU/Linux Games grimoire guru Geek/Hacker/Tinker Be sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth. Key id = F4C1F89C Key fingerprint = 6FF2 8F20 4C9D DB36 B5B6 F134 884D 72CC F4C1 F89C _______________________________________________ gnokii-users mailing list gnokii-users@... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnokii-users |
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