google wave

[Jonathan Brown-5]

Hi all,

I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :)

If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out!

Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others!

jbssfl@...

--Jon



     

[Ng Oon-Ee]

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:06 -0700, Jonathan Brown wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :)
>
> If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out!
>
> Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others!
>
> jbssfl@...
>
> --Jon

Think there was a topic on this in the forums, invites being
requested/give out.

[Artyom Smirnov]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Jonathan Brown <jbssfl@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :)
>
> If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out!
>
> Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others!
>
> jbssfl@...
>
> --Jon

Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.

--
Artyom

[Juan Diego]

hi, extranger, could you please give me one too :)
have a nice day

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Jonathan Brown <jbssfl@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :)
>>
>> If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out!
>>
>> Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others!
>>
>> jbssfl@...
>>
>> --Jon
>
> Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
>
> --
> Artyom
>

[Guilherme M. Nogueira-2]

>> Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
>> --
>> Artyom


I'd like one too, if that's ok with you =]

guilherme@...

[Artyom Smirnov]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@...> wrote:
> hi, extranger, could you please give me one too :)
> have a nice day
Ok.

--
Artyom

[Juan Diego]

god bless you mercy soul

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Juan Diego <juantascon@...> wrote:
>> hi, extranger, could you please give me one too :)
>> have a nice day
> Ok.
>
> --
> Artyom
>

[Artyom Smirnov]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Guilherme M. Nogueira
<guilherme@...> wrote:
> I'd like one too, if that's ok with you =]
>
> guilherme@...
>
Sent.


--
Artyom

[Guilherme M. Nogueira-2]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...> wrote:
> Sent.
>
> --
> Artyom
>

Thank you very very much, Artyom  =]



--
Guilherme M. Nogueira
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke

[bardo]

2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
> Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.

Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
people... If you still have a spare one, I'd be grateful if you sent
it to me.

Thanks,
Corrado

[Artyom Smirnov]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:30 PM, bardo <ilbardo@...> wrote:

> 2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
>> Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
>
> Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
> right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
> people... If you still have a spare one, I'd be grateful if you sent
> it to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Corrado
>

Sent.

--
Artyom

[christopher floess]

Well, that seems to be all twelve, but if someone else has one, I'd be
interested. Thanks -- Chris

[bardo]

2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
>> Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
>> right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
>> people... If you still have a spare one, I'd be grateful if you sent
>> it to me.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Corrado
>>
> Sent.

Thanks, very very kind of you :-) If you ever come around Nothern
Italy let me know, I owe you a beer!

Corrado

[Guilherme M. Nogueira-2]

Does it take long to receive the invitation after one sends it to you?
Usually these things are pretty fast, but I still didn't receive the invitation.
Is this normal?


--
Guilherme M. Nogueira
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke

[Heiko Baums-2]

Am Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +0100
schrieb bardo <ilbardo@...>:

> 2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
> > Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
>
> Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
> right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
> people...

And with Google!? I don't understand how one can be interested in
letting Google read and use his/her personal e-mails, documents etc.

Have you read their terms of use? And do you know what Google does with
your e-mails, documents and other data? Google reads, scans and
evaluates e.g. every e-mail which is sent to or from a Gmail account
and every document which is edited by Google Docs.

The only thing from Google I'm using is their search engine and this
only without cookies. I won't give Google my personal communication or
documents. And I'm thinking about not sending e-mails to Gmail
addresses anymore.

Heiko

[窦奇龙]

Yes, it's normal. The googlewave invitation takes about a week to arrive.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 22:56, Guilherme M. Nogueira
<guilherme@...> wrote:

> Does it take long to receive the invitation after one sends it to you?
> Usually these things are pretty fast, but I still didn't receive the invitation.
> Is this normal?
>
>
> --
> Guilherme M. Nogueira
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> - Arthur C. Clarke
>

[Xavier Chantry-2]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Heiko Baums <lists@...> wrote:

> Am Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +0100
> schrieb bardo <ilbardo@...>:
>
>> 2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
>> > Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
>>
>> Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
>> right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
>> people...
>
> And with Google!? I don't understand how one can be interested in
> letting Google read and use his/her personal e-mails, documents etc.
>
> Have you read their terms of use? And do you know what Google does with
> your e-mails, documents and other data? Google reads, scans and
> evaluates e.g. every e-mail which is sent to or from a Gmail account
> and every document which is edited by Google Docs.
>
> The only thing from Google I'm using is their search engine and this
> only without cookies. I won't give Google my personal communication or
> documents. And I'm thinking about not sending e-mails to Gmail
> addresses anymore.
>

You should consider to stop using Internet.

[Alessandro Doro]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 04:05:13PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
>            And I'm thinking about not sending e-mails to Gmail
> addresses anymore.
Simply you can't!
Your messages to this mailing list end up in many Google mailboxes.

[Ng Oon-Ee]

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 16:14 +0100, Xavier wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Heiko Baums <lists@...> wrote:
> > Am Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +0100
> > schrieb bardo <ilbardo@...>:
> >
> >> 2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov <smirnoffjr@...>:
> >> > Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you.
> >>
> >> Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite
> >> right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some
> >> people...
> >
> > And with Google!? I don't understand how one can be interested in
> > letting Google read and use his/her personal e-mails, documents etc.
> >
> > Have you read their terms of use? And do you know what Google does with
> > your e-mails, documents and other data? Google reads, scans and
> > evaluates e.g. every e-mail which is sent to or from a Gmail account
> > and every document which is edited by Google Docs.
> >
> > The only thing from Google I'm using is their search engine and this
> > only without cookies. I won't give Google my personal communication or
> > documents. And I'm thinking about not sending e-mails to Gmail
> > addresses anymore.
> >
>
> You should consider to stop using Internet.

+1. Who knows what nefarious things are being done with your bits and
bytes by those shady router admins....

[bardo]

2009/10/31 Heiko Baums <lists@...>:
> And with Google!? I don't understand how one can be interested in
> letting Google read and use his/her personal e-mails, documents etc.

I'm very careful about my privacy. My google account doesn't usually
host private/work e-mails, for those ones I have an account with
someone who cares about my privacy (an Italian project,
autistici.org). Mails I'm sending from this address are going to
become public anyway, so I care more about other features.

> Have you read their terms of use? And do you know what Google does with
> your e-mails, documents and other data? Google reads, scans and
> evaluates e.g. every e-mail which is sent to or from a Gmail account
> and every document which is edited by Google Docs.

I read their terms of use. I'm more aware of the problem than you
think, and in fact I'm active in a privacy-related project. And if I
*really* need to use gmail for a private message, I encrypt it with
GPG.
Also, I don't use google docs or similar apps.

> The only thing from Google I'm using is their search engine and this
> only without cookies. I won't give Google my personal communication or
> documents. And I'm thinking about not sending e-mails to Gmail
> addresses anymore.

It should also be noted that, if someone writes you from a gmail
address, their communication to you gets logged. This means that
there's no way to keep google (or $otherprovider) out of your
business. Also, people don't care, because it is in *their* freedom to
choose whatever service they prefer. And this is a good thing, even
though their choice involves *your* privacy. I suppose that, with a
real lot of time, money and good lawyers, you could force google to
not "read" e-mails because their customers agreed to their ToS, but
not the people they communicate to.

In conclusion, even though I sympathize with your views, I think your
battle is lost because it's flawed in its basis. If you don't like how
e-mail works, well, there are internationally recognized standards for
it, nothing you can do about it. Just change for a different service
which is based on technology that doesn't allow the provider to read
user's data. After all, there are technologies that allow us to log
into services without them or anybody knowing our passwords, why not
making it mandatory for contents? We just need a new protocol. And a
good reason for users to make the switch, since as we know people are
lazy.

Corrado